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'Mabus' From Nostradamus's Predictions, Who Is It - Obama? Trump?

Working with occultism is like reading a dark and enthralling book—only better because one never reaches the end.


Who is Mabus? In ancient times, Nostradamus (Michel de Nostradame) made numerous predictions; seemingly many of them have come to pass. His predictions include cryptically written overviews of Napoleon, Hitler, the Twin Towers catastrophe and many more.

In recent times, there has been much speculation concerning his prophesy about a historical figure named "Mabus." It is about this particular prognostication that I now will write.

Who Was Nostradamus?

Nostradamus was a 16th century physician and divination practitioner, he wrote in cryptic verses in ancient French. In his day his skills as a seer were highly regarded, therefore he was commonly asked to perform divinatory readings for French nobility.

Nostradamus is believed to have predicted that Napoleon and Hitler would be Antichrists; in theory there's a third one to come--potentially in our times

Nostradamus is believed to have predicted that Napoleon and Hitler would be Antichrists; in theory there's a third one to come--potentially in our times

Whom or What is Mabus?

It's commonly understood that according to Nostradamus, there is to be a 27 year long war to begin around the time of the death of "Mabus." For this reason it seems to be in our best interests to keep up on the matter. A number of Nostradamus's other predictions came about; this one could too; and if his words were correct, a time of further and greater world unrest is on its way.

There's a lot of interest in who the Mabus figure referred to within some of Nostradamus's quatrains is. It appears that the future we face may be greatly affected by anyone who adopts a governmental position of leadership, or by anyone who becomes head of a terrorist organization within certain nations.

Whom among world leaders remains living and for how long, is also likely a factor in how things unfold. If you don't see how this last section of insight applies, take a look at some of Nostradamus's translated quatrains. There are some provided for you to examine, further into the article.

How Did Nostradamus Predict the Future?

Nostradamus made his predictions by scrying with a bowl of water. When a person performs this method of divination, they stare into water or at an object, and focus their intuition on receiving any messages to be provided. The required information will present to most readers in a visual format. The more one practices scrying, the more in-depth their readings are likely to become.

Why Are His Writings So Hard to Decipher?

At first glance, it appears that by writing in quatrains in the cryptic manner that he did, Nostradamus must have had a good deal of faith in people's comprehension skills, as his meanings are truly obscured. The meanings are cloaked both by design and in the way that languages were used back then; that way of speaking doesn't make much sense today. If Nostradamus had written his predictions out plainly in the language of his time, we would still have trouble understanding him now. As well he wrote in poetic verse; poetry, as a rule needs interpreting.

It has been theorized that the obfuscation was for him to avoid being labelled as a magician. In his time there were laws that would make being outright in his predictions quite risky.

Some of the apparently accurate predictions made by Nostradamus include overviews of Napoleon, Hitler, the 9/11 Twin Towers catastrophe and more. As there is much speculation on his Mabus prediction, let's try to shed some light on it.

Why Was This Article Written?

Leading up to the 2012 election, it seemed that Mitt Romney would win--this even though he didn't appear to be the worthier candidate. The impression that Romney would win was strong because it seemed at the time, that history had (circumstantially) proven Barack Obama to NOT be the historical figure Nostradamus referred to as Mabus. That combined with the fact that we are obviously living in the times of Mabus, made me feel that the name was most likely representative of the next U.S. president. The assumption therefore, was that Mabus was very likely to show later on to be Mitt Romney.

After the re-election of Barack Obama, my feelings totally changed; said change caused me to re-educate myself on this topic. It no longer feels that Mitt Romney or Barack Obama are Mabus--meaning that neither one of the two is the only Mabus. It will be explained further into the article, why this author believes that there is more than one Mabus.

Was Nostradamus Accurate in His Predictions?

In some well known predictions, it appears that Nostradamus was right on target. However, research states that the best degree of accuracy a psychic can consistently hold is 70%; and there is truth to the way it fits to how people generally receive what they are told by psychics. Psychics often see visions and symbols which they must apply their own interpretation to; this regardless of them not knowing the context of the questioner's life.

Sometimes there is a bit of work necessary on the part of the person receiving a reading, to re-interpret how the information properly applies within the context of their life. If they don't, there will be discrepancies. Another problem, is that there is no time on any universal plane but ours. Given that the messages psychics receive come from other dimensions, applying a time reference is dicey at best.

Thus a 70% accuracy rating is very good considering the obstacles a psychic is dealing with. This is not to suggest that Nostradamus or any psychic had such an accuracy; higher or lower either, I honestly don't know. But if Nostradamus missed on a few predictions, that's okay.

That said, I have no idea how many of Nostradamus's predictions did or didn't come to pass.

A number of his quatrains haven't yet been determined to fit any specific historical event. That doesn't mean that these things haven't happened. It may mean that perhaps no one saw how the events pertaining to those quatrains applied. Of course some may occur farther down the road.

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Some people believe that the level of accuracy which Nostradamus did possess, is in appearance only. They believe that deciphered quatrain meanings were bent to suit a purpose--that they were intentionally made to look as if they were accurate to achieve Brownie points for whomever deciphered them.

I disagree with that concept, and believe there is a firm foundation to the common theory that Nostradamus wrote his prognostications to be deciphered only after the fact. If so, that this would leave his works always to loom within a mysterious sort of a haze. And beyond that, some of Nostradamus's works may well have been misinterpreted, and there's no way to know.

Is There One Antichrist or Three?

It is said that Nostradamus claimed there was to be a third Antichrist to arise in our time. In this theory, the first was Napoleon (Napaulon Roy), the second was Hitler (Hister), the third is Mabus. Another theory is that the verse mentioning the Antichrist reads that there are three of them, all in our time--not just one. It seems to be a matter of both whose interpretation of Nostradamus you are looking at, and how it's perceived as you read it. It makes sense to me both ways, and both ways, the end result is much the same.

If you read the corresponding quatrain (one version quoted as translated by an unknown individual [page below]--"The Antichrist three") to mean there is one Antichrist, then that would suggest the entire U.S. Government, apparently including the times of Clinton, Obama and Bush. This as a period of war, in my opinion, began in Bush senior's time and still continues; which complicates matters, as that means both Bushes are to be viewed as one. One Antichrist additionally suggests the entire group of all theorized to be Mabus are in fact he; you can't deny there is an implication that Mabus refers to the era we live in.

If you take Nostradamus's words to refer to three Antichrists, think about it; it appears to be the same trio--Clinton, Obama and Bush. Three Antichrists additionally suggests Hussein, Bin Laden and Arafat (read on to understand why). Whether one or three, there appears to be an intentional double entendre.

Updated July 23, 2018--these references now seem in hindsight to hint at who and what initiated a period of war, and also that what began it is not so much a factor anymore as the war and corruption takes on life of its own.

As the war began in the times of Bush senior, he just may have been the initiator of the age of Mabus. How apropos is that--Massachusetts Bush--Mabus!

Why Bush, Obama and Clinton?

It seems that the Americans concerned would be identifiable by having been leaders within the times of Mabus; and too for having been involved with annihilation of enemies. Or as in the case of Bill Clinton, a very clear outline is provided in a reference below, that really isn't likely to mean anyone but him.

Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama are responsible for having annihilated heretics, one Osama Bin Laden, the other Saddam Hussein. The term 'heretics' is used to describe those who possess beliefs outside of the norm. I know you are dying to ask--so how does Bill Clinton fit into this? It has been claimed that Mabus is Old German for "the great adulterer" (4th paragraph). That kind of rings a bell here... it reminds me of a situation with a certain Monica Lewinsky...

As well as being a reference to adultery, the term Mabus demonstrates a link to an Irish heritage (refer to the link in previous paragraph). Obama and Bush have an Irish lineage, Bill Clinton ties in to this particular definition of the name by the other implied meaning alone.

Updated July 23, 2018--the term "the great adulterer," could now also refer to Donald J. Trump.

Okay Then, So Who Do You Figure Mabus Is?

The following individuals or groups can all in some way be theorized to be Mabus--most of them still alive, some deceased. Surely there are more, but this is my compiled list.

  • Barack Obama
  • Mitt Romney
  • George H.W. Bush
  • George W. Bush
  • Bill Clinton
  • Ray Mabus
  • Saddam Hussein
  • Osama bin Laden
  • Mahmoud Abbas
  • Yasser Arafat
  • Donald Trump
  • Vladimir Putin
  • Pope Francis
  • The Global Elite
  • The world governments as a whole
  • Hezbollah

You will notice that some entries on the above list have no corresponding explanation given; it was only fair to give you something to consider.

That some non-U.S. figures on the list of possible Mabus suspects are now deceased, tells me is that Mabus is likely anyone who is commonly theorized to be him. How this statement makes sense is somewhat abstract of a thought. It must be so though, as both U.S. and non U.S. figures past and present, seem to be referenced in Nostradamus's verses.

According to the Antichrist three verse, some of the Mabus figures die early on in the war--likely the worst of them. This seems to refer to Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden and Yasser Arafat. It is oddly bemusing that this group of individuals fits the description of Mabus, as well as that of the heretics. It appears clear though that Mabus represents a world situation or era, not an individual; and that some, not all of the Mabus characters die as the "war" begins. The word war is in quote marks for a reason.

There is no clear feel of the gravity of the so called 27 year war. I feel now, after all of my research like quite an authority on the subject, and feel that the emphasis on this issue should be placed upon the gravity of all global catastrophes that are to happen within this time frame--not just the war. That said, it is possible that long running wars may escalate down the road.

One thing is for sure--no matter what anyone feels about those quatrains and what they mean...we are living in the times of Nostradamus's Mabus.

Nostradamus translated and Interpreted. The below pieces are examples of his writings quoted from various Internet sources, none of them are my writings.

Mabus will soon die, then will come

a horrible slaughter of people and animals

at once vengeance is revealed coming from a hundred lands

thirst, and famine when the comet will pass


One who the infernal gods of

Hannibal will cause to be born

terror to all mankind

never more horror will tell

nor the newspapers tell of

horror in the past

will come to the Italians through Babel


A horrible war is being

prepared in the west

The following year the

pestilence will come

so very horrible that young

nor old nor animal will survive

blood, fire, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter

in France


The Antichrist three very soon annihilated,

seven and twenty years of blood will his war last

the heretics dead, captives exiled

blood human body water reddened on land to hail damage


In the year 1999 and seven months

the great King of Terror will come from the sky

he will resurrect Ghengis Khan

before and after war rules happily

No matter how you slice it, Nostradamus's words can be argued against, regarding how tightly/loosely things fit together. I don't think it was his intent to set an airtight presentation. It was to tell us something, or to allow us to prepare for a possible time of difficulty.

Final Note: I have discovered something implied within the verses that I would rather keep to myself; but too, when we are shown such hidden things, it is our moral duty to share with our brothers and sisters of the world.

I felt that hidden within some quatrains was reference to a fair deal of wrongdoing within the U.S. government at the time of the administrations mentioned in line with Mabus. With that said, I shall conclude with this - I am reluctant to go into detail; but if you dig really deep into this topic, you may very well find reason to believe those that said the 9/11 incidents were staged, inside jobs. You will too likely find other deeply disturbing facts.

I feel this article is strong as is, and don't wish to branch out in that direction. Nor do I encourage anyone to believe in such things just because I have said as I did. Believe as you will, it's your right. I challenge you to find your own truths, no matter what they may consist of.

Don't believe everything they try to sell you; it's time for change to come... for real.


Love GwennyOh

Update :: November 2020

Since this was written we saw Barack Obama through his entire second term, and witnessed Donald Trump become president. Through until today, apparently we are still living in the times of Mabus.

Back in 2018 this author tacked an update into this hub, stating that Donald Trump was potentially a Mabus, as well as Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama. It was a lightly explained update, as it seemed to suffice that Trump fit the bill, as a 'great adulterer.' However, it now seems remiss not to say, that was not the only way he related to that name. Aside from suggesting someone of an Irish heritage, it also relates to German (read back, under the heading 'Why Bush, Obama and Clinton?'); and Donald Trump's father was German.

The name Mabus in fact, holds a potential wealth of information within it. Someone shared the idea that M. Abus, is how the French refer to a male abuser, who could be an abuser of sutstances, women, or what have you. For the record, the aforementioned was shared in the comments on this hub, and the same individual said that they had a dream, that revealed to them that Bill Clinton was M. Abus in that sense. 'Just saying'--I don't necesssarily buy into that.

In the Crowley-Thoth tarot deck, Atu VI, The Lovers, shows a Moebius strip towards the top of the card. Moebius is the old German spelling of Mabus, as already discussed. It was placed on the card as a reminder, for us to avoid making life choices that will likely return us to where we began. That's exactly what a Moebius strip does--it has no beginning and no end, and only one surface. You cannot go anywhere by traversing it. The suggestion is, that as we agonize through the hardness of this age, we will in the end have gotten no farther ahead.

Another thing that the mobius strip hints at, is deception. Looking at it, it appears to be a two sided object, yet scientifically it has only one side.

All this reduced, adds more essence to the theory that Mabus is an age rather than a man; and it's hard to pinpoint with precision when it began. All that can be said in conclusion, is that it's an age that screams out for healing.

PS: As a final thought, now that Massachusetts Bush has passed on, we may be one step deeper into the meat and potatoes part of the Mabus era. However, there is this strong feeling within me, that Trump is just as key in what happens next as Bush senior may have been. Why? --M. Abus; that's why. He abuses women vocally, he abuses his position of power, and though it is unnecessary to launch into a full scale diatribe, it doesn't end there. However, I, as other seers, feel that Trump's efforts are vital in propelling us forth towards a phase of healing.

Oh, one point nearly went tidily swimming on by... Obama, he's mentioned in the title of this piece. That's primarily because the piece was written during his term, within the times of Mabus. Not much has been said specifically about him, because whatever he had to hide was largely hidden well, but at times peeked through. However, I found a statement on a forum, which implied that US citizens are being spied upon through phones, by the government. We already knew that such activity was going on during Obama's term. The point is, that there's not a whole lot of known dirt to attribute to the man (other than his and his wife's confusing identities), but his term did not entirely evade flack.

Why do attribute any weight whatsoever to the spying statement? Because of the link shown to support the theory; it was on a Mabus thread, on Above Top Secret forum. It's not earth shattering, but being spied upon is not something we consider on a daily basis. At the same time, it's now clear why the government has appeared to be pushing everyone to get handheld devices, and why there are now generations that do not know how to respond to life without them.

On that same thread was a reference to the Abus river estuary. Yah know, we really don't want to bring any unnecessary concepts into this hub, but at the same time, that estuary is very close to where Prince Charles was born, who is known to have been a descendant of Vlad the Impaler, a Romanian. There's nothing more to add. Hopefully though, this update provides food for thought.

© 2013 GwennyOh


GwennyOh (author) on October 25, 2020:

@Tim Truzy - Absolutely true! However, it's an interesting pastime to speculate, isn't it? Your thoughts are valued, thank you.

Tim Truzy from U.S.A. on October 25, 2020:

Since most of his predictions are not linear, we can't be sure what is meant by Mavus. But it was a great read. Thanks.

Rob Olson on July 15, 2016:

If Mabus is Obama, and the 27 year war starts with the end of Mabus could this translate to the end of Obama's presidency, January 2017, and not necessarily his death.

GwennyOh (author) on October 03, 2015:

Days leaper, here's the reference I used, it was in this article, so perhaps you've seen it already... nonetheless, it's what I have available now. You'll find it in the fourth paragraph:

GwennyOh (author) on October 03, 2015:

@days leaper, sorry it took me so long to respond, but I just found your comment today. I will see when I have a chance where I found that reference to the translation of Mabus.

@Alfred, I usually try to comment on comments here, but I am confused by your wording in the first bit, and cannot tell exactly what you are saying.

Thanks both of you for your comments.

Alfred on October 03, 2015:

Obama began such a policy of horror that Jeb Bush could only be referred to him when finalizing these destructive plans of doing away peoples freedom.

Bush seems to be family whom believes Christ did not live in the flesh but was a miracle from God. Not died on the cross as son of God and savior. Not being very special since Muslims and Catholics all strongly deny Jesus to have been important for salvation but strange to hear from prominent people and most important leaders.

Ask them yourself but after an Islamic president it could be Antichrist Three being an ignorant Bush family member. This is what Jesus told the disciples: an antichrist states that the Christ did not live in the flesh. Unimaginable on itself and the presidents Bush have always been referred to as less intelligent or ignorant.

days leaper from england on September 10, 2015:

intriguing! Do You have a way (reference book etc.) of finding out what the word mabus actually means. that is to say translation to English from a foreign tongue etc. Only Ive read bits before deciding it was too much, and came across someone known as "One Brain -who has worked it out" did you come across this elsewhere/ at all, and something else about a brilliant six or something. \we've clearly read different parts.

I was looking for something on the current immigration crisis, it says something about it, and ends "Arethusa will become a new red"...

As far as politicians being corrupt. Well, ever since nutty nero burned down rome, just because he was fed up of the layout. Just about all are! Countries that let those in of other interests and allow them positions of power in this day will always be susceptible to what they believe should be, and given the power to 'punish' in their mind when it doesn't! What do people expect? Be nice and black will turn white? "pff!"

kathie on September 02, 2015:

I just want to mention Ray Mabus secretary of the U.S navy was appointed by President's that simple

GwennyOh (author) on July 20, 2015:

Aw Shucks, Jason - you didn't even read the article!

magic on February 26, 2015:

Jed Bush will be the next President of the US

ObaMA then BUSh

He will be killed and the US thirst for revenge (War on terror II ) will bring civilization to its knees

Goofyaesop on November 19, 2014:

If this is the era of Mabus, maybe you can take the word literally: the hand or finger. Look at the thumbs up and thumbs down symbol of Facebook. Mr. Z used to have his photo taken in front the the "f" on a blue screen, making him look like he was wearing a turban. Also, maybe the 3 are not people, but entities none the less: f, g, t. Facebook, google, twitter. If you are a doodler, you can make a number 6 out of each of them. If they all become one entity, that controlled everyone and everything, which could happen if Facebook successfully launches the free service for business they are introducing, enabling control of your identity, photo ID recognition of people, and ability to track all personal computer activities - things can get surreal. Yes, whether you are logged on or not. They have 'permission' in the fine print that you agreed to during all the 'updates'.

I have not taken time to see if it is all out of there, but I doubt it. I think it is possible that since they are in a business agreement with the government, we are screwed in the long run. If Mr. Z suddenly gets put aside, there are a lot of bad outcomes.

On the front of violence from 100 countries; well, there is a religious faction that believes in the annihilation of anyone who is an apostate, heretic, or whatever. People are chopped up as you read this.

If they take out Mr. Z of Palo Alto, and take over, all hell will break loose.

I also have a blog that addresses apple ID hacking. Someone can get into your devices and track you. I had the experience of having my navigator go out and switch to face time, which I do not use, as if I was being followed and they wanted to know what I looked like.

Chris Boothe from Hoover, AL on October 25, 2014:

Well done article! Very thought provoking and interesting. I appreciate that you present what you've found as both found and inferred information, leaving no room for confusion on if it is fact or opinion. And I must say, as an American, you present a compelling picture in a time of global unrest! Thanks for the great read!

Roger on October 05, 2014:

Muhammad al-Badri al-Samarrai, another name for the current "CEO" of ISIS.

MABaS--one letter off.

no tomorrow on September 22, 2014:


fantastic74 on July 03, 2014:

I'm not a doomsday thinker, but I'm interested in the puzzle.

For if ray mabus may be the Mabus (maybe not the anti christ, because he dies soon according to nostradamus), then this quatrain may explain why it could be ray mabus, because his religion according to wiki is methodism, who worship Maundy thursday, and this belowmentioned quatrain talks about a leader in the 3 seas (america) and celibrate thursday as holy day :

Century 1, Quatrain 50

From the three water signs will be born a man

who will celebrate Thursday as his feast day.

His renown, praise, rule and power will grow

on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

This quatrain talks about the antichrist. Hannibal was searching for refugee in Syria when Rome was looking for him. 'Will cause to reborn' is stating that the conflict in Syria gives the opportunity for a born leader near Babel which is Hillah (Babylon) 100 km south of Bagdad which is attacked right now by ISIS and the leader of ISIS stated on 2 July 2014 that he is going to rome:

-Century 2, Quatrain 30-

One who the infernal gods of Hannibal

Will cause to be reborn, terror of all mankind

Never more horror nor the newspapers tell of worse in the past,

Than will come to the Romans through Babel (Iraq).

Very much of a coincidence all this.....

GwennyOh (author) on April 27, 2014:

Another interesting point of view. I thank you too for your opinion, Laban...

Laban the white on April 27, 2014:

As there are so many ideas about this,,,,,,,,,, about who he might be,,,,,,,,,,

According to Nostradamus, others will have paved the way for Antichrists coming to power,,,,,,,,,,

And Nostradamus liked playing with words like in riddles, as all of us know,,,,,,,,,,

So Mabus ,,,,,,, at first seem to match Obama, as of all his policy, actually USA in his presidency are building up a dictatorship, for the military and banking complex of USA, and they do so by decieving All Moslems ( first by the Arab spring that take away old supressive regimes, whereby after wish they reinstate others to govern the peoples in order to govern the buffer-states to contole the routes for the last oil-reserves in the middle east, securing the resourses for themselves ( USA) and partly for their allies.

They also decive the UKRAINIANS, the only reasons the USA want this hegemony is to keep RUSSIA out of the world stage, cutting their southern flank of from the Middle east, Iran and Syria, while also keeping influence in central Asia by putting a wedge between Russia and China with main bases of influence in Afghanistan.

These threats loom to make Russia and China join to break of USA global influence and world dominance - creating the world military and political background for a future WORLD WAR 3.

Russia feel herself being cut of and closed in by US and NATO advances of their forces and borders.- the holy security politics for Russia ever since the Napoleonic era.

For China their growing influence on the world stage resembles that of Imperial Japan or Preusen in Europe - USA that strive to be the only global Power , with the real reason that stems from the Banking system and Miltary complex, Bilderberger and Secret societys of the world elite agenda,,,,,,,,,, can't ever accept any resistance or competition for this global agenda of the Capitalistic Imperialistic politics.

In USA the 9/11 event has been the turmoil that set USA in chaos and where orchestrated by these secret power groups. The aim is to build the finit dictatorship - full contolle, with fear and deceit, with surveilance and the policy of absolute power, and doing so as the Natzis did in Hitlers germany,,,,, but with better consiled ways of working.

When the real MABUS comes,,,,,,,,,,

Obama will be taken care of by chosen assassins as his unpopularity by the US people make him a liablility for those in power in the Military industrial and banking komplex that run USA and the world affairs ( except Russia, China and some opposing states.)

As Nostradamus states - after Obama will come MABUS.

Ma Bus - if read as two words, not one, and not in modern English, can thus mean - My Bush.

This might actually put a finger of a coming third presidency of the clan of Bush, this final Bush will be of Right wing conservative family, from the high elite, close to the MIBC, close to other brothers of the Freemasons.

With him the war of the wars will start - but by wish reasons we yet not know.

GwennyOh (author) on February 24, 2014:

Thanks for your interesting opinion and insight truongshixam. Much appreciated.

truongshixam on February 23, 2014:

Mabus is French for "Mr. Abuse". The French would say "M. Abus". I was told in a very vivid dream about 15 years ago that Bill Clinton is "Mr. Abuse" - abuser of drugs, abuser of his office, abuser of women, etc.

Mabus is not the antichrist. Nostradamus is simply telling us that when "Mabus" dies, a lot of really bad things will begin to happen. The death of Mabus is used as a marker to alert us of the beginning of what will likely be the tribulation period.

A 58 on July 26, 2013:

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Chalisa33 on June 07, 2013:

Really interesting.....

GwennyOh (author) on June 06, 2013:

Thank you so much for taking the time to comment, Michele. Appreciated.

I find it quite amazing on how many points Nostradamus was accurate, and from the fifteenth century yet!

Michele Travis from U.S.A. Ohio on June 06, 2013:

This is a very interesting hub. There is a lot happening in this world today. Who knows what will happen next?

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