Did Jerry and Esther Hicks Just Make It All Up?
In The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham, Esther and Jerry Hicks claim they got the law of attraction complete from a channeled entity, Abraham, that deposits blocks of thought into Esther's head. Does this make sense to you?
"It all started here," their website sings.
But did it?
The truth starts here.
Neither Esther, Jerry or Abraham Hicks had anything to do with discovering or inventing it, no matter what they claim, but they took a joy ride on the so-called Law of Attraction, anyway, giving birth to Abraham, according to them, while coasting along in Jerry's Caddy and being squeezed between trucks on a highway.
Since then, they've outdone even the legendary Reverend Ike in the art of spiritual marketing.
The Birth of Abraham?
How did Jerry and Esther Hicks bring Abraham, their alleged "nonphysical entities," into being, entangled in their refried version of the Law of Attraction?
The story is murky, complicated and ripe with incomprehensible claims, contradictions and evasions, but a reasonable explanation, relying on some educated guesses, exists.
What do we find when we dig into the history of Jerry and Esther Hicks? And why are they trying so hard to push the Law of Attraction out of the picture in favor of their own clunky invention, "The Vortex of Attraction?"
The Whole Messy Story
Abraham Hicks Scandal
A Fable of Sorts
Because so much of what Jerry and Esther Hicks have claimed about their pasts is either provably wrong or questionable, their stories can be relied on only as a general basis and reference.
Although Jerry Hicks claims to have been a lifelong seeker of esoteric truths, influenced to practice the tricks of wealth by Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich, there is nothing on the record to verify much of his autobiography.
Even the story on Abraham-Hicks website is provably false, claiming that Jerry is still alive and tooling around the country with Esther, but also that he's sprier than men half his age, a difficult trick for a three year old corpse.
Sometimes, a researcher trying to find out about Jerry Hicks life gets a perplexing sense that an eraser has been taken to the records.
Napoleon Hill's Inspriations
History That Reads Like Fiction Because It Is
Some of his claims, such as knowing Rip Taylor from his days in the entertainment business, have been denied outright by the parties themselves.
What we do know as a fact is that, when he became involved with Esther, Jerry was recently divorced from Trish Hughes for whom she worked as a bookkeeper. Jerry and Trish had been successful in reaching the Crown Level with Amway and Jerry shared in that wealth.
Jerry had moved on, leaving most of the money behind, and was engaged to would-be wife #5 or #6 when he hooked up with Esther.
Esther was Trish Hughes' bookkeeper, which is apparently how she met Jerry, although there is no evidence suggesting their affair started while he was still married.
Esther was, however, married to Richard, when they began their affair. Richard is a Mormon as is most of Esther's family. They had one daughter, Tracy. Single again after four or five marriages, Jerry was in his sixties, twenty-five years older than Esther.
Jerry's engagement as well as Esther's marriage ended after Richard discovered their affair by finding her car in a motel parking lot.
Esther and Jerry Hicks were married shortly after the divorce was finalized. This would be the fifth marriage for Jerry Hicks, as well as he could remember, while he hinted (to Esther's irritation) that there might have been more.
By all public accounts, the marriage was a happy one, the pair well-matched, although as she had with Richard, Esther resented Jerry's being "controlling."
Abraham-Hicks was not born until about five years later.
Jerry had been reading books from the New Thought Movement, which included the Law of Attraction among its claims, for years and trying to use the tools to teach others to obtain the wealth he claims to have created prior to Abraham-Hicks.
He and Esther began reading books Jane Roberts wrote, channeled, she said, from a nonphysical entity known as "Seth." Esther tells of lying on the couch with Jerry, reading the Seth Material aloud as he tickled her feet.
This is a part of the story Esther and Jerry Hicks probably wish they hadn't shared because they begin their official tale about the emergence of Abraham Hicks, the entity, with a visit to Sheila Gillette (then, Sheila Petersen-Lowary), author of The 5th Dimension: Channels to a New Reality, a woman who'd been channeling "Theo" since a severe stroke brought her to a near death experience as a young woman.
According to Esther's version, they just happened to hear that Petersen-Lowary would be in town soon and rushed, out of the blue, to make an appointment, this though Esther claims to have been turned off by Jerry's old Ouija Board stories. At their session with Theo, Jerry, Esther tells us, asked many questions while she listened until, as they were leaving, Theo asked her if she would like to know the name of her "spiritual guide."
Esther claims to have been flabbergasted, never having heard the term before (despite extensive reading of Jane Roberts' books, acknowledged in an interview later), and she was told that the name would be given to her independently in a "clairaudient experience."
Getting the Notion
Esther and Jerry were advised to begin meditating regularly in order to develop this relationship. Here's where the more glaring contradictions begin because, as the official story is told (convincingly by Esther), she never knew anyone who meditated and thought it was weird.
To the contrary, the Seth Material, which she and Jerry had been reading heavily, lying on the couch, tickling feet, is full of references to meditation.
The official story of Abraham-Hicks requires that Esther Hicks be an innocent chosen by Abraham, described as the voice of God (or Source), because she had so few strong opinions and was married to the "questioner of all time," Jerry Hicks.
In a series of steps, then, the official story has it that Abraham-Hicks is born.
First, while meditating, Esther suddenly realizes that her head is being involuntarily swiveled to make her nose draw letters. (Honest!)
While sustaining the miracle of remaining in meditation, she calls out to Jerry to alert him and jots down what is being spelled with her nose:
"I am Abraham. I am your spiritual guide."
(Note: this is not clairaudience, as predicted earlier, by Theo.)
This experience apparently ended there, since no additional information is given.
Esther talks of how one night, while watching television in bed with Jerry, Abraham takes control of her hands, thumping them against her chest.
She gets "an urge" to go over to her IBM Selectric typewriter and watches as, presumably, Abraham spends several minutes searching the keyboard to understand the letters.
(Coincidentally, Seth also communicated with Jane Roberts through a typewriter.)
Then, her fingers begin typing out words. "I am Abraham," again, but more tellingly as she reports it in Ask and It Is Given: Learning to Manifest Your Desires,
"We are going to write a book together."
(Heads up. You're not supposed to know that at least two Abraham Books, New Beginnings I & II, had already been published.)
What makes this last reported statement unbelievable is that Jerry Hicks has just finished explaining that, in Abraham Hicks' world, they do not have words, reading or hearing. They communicate by a sort of ESP.
For Esther, it is claimed that they deliver "blocks of thought" to be interpreted, not words or sentences. They didn't even know the mechanics of a typewriter or the features on the keyboard, so how did they go about deciding to "write a book together" or even care about writing one?
The next phase in the birth of Abraham Hicks is even more inexplicable. Esther tells a bizarre story in which she and Jerry are nearly crushed by trucks on a highway when, suddenly, Abraham (now seizing her vocal chords) orders Jerry to "take the next exit," according to Ask And It Is Given.
(A written version from a decade earlier has Abraham prefacing this order by saying the highway was "too dangerous.)
This part of the official story seems to be a partially developed effort to suggest a heavenly rescue. After exiting, they sit in the car in a parking lot under the highway and Jerry converses with Abraham, who has taken control of Esther's vocal chords, "for hours"
Channeling is born with Abraham Hicks emergence in the physical form of Esther Hicks' body, and after Jerry Hicks breaks his promise to keep her fantastic abilities quiet, a lucrative series of high priced Abraham Hicks Workshops begins.
The style of presentation repeats what Sheila and Theo have done already for decades.
Jerry Hicks illness and death slowed things down, but in the meantime, the workshops along with books, cards, recordings and other gift shop items made Abraham-Hicks a prosperous organization and Esther and Jerry Hicks very wealthy people.
The Point Is, You Have Choices
The law of attraction, coined a hundred years ago in the New Thought Movement, has deeper roots. Here are some other alternatives with more flesh on the bone, broader insight and deeper wisdom.
So, What About Jerry, Esther Hicks and Abraham and The Law of Attraction?
Rhonda Byrne's wildly popular, The Secret, was inspired by an Abraham-Hicks workshop.
Esther Hicks was initially the main narrator and focal point of the movie, but dropped out (with cash) in a dispute over what was described as "intellectual property."
Even so, this put Esther and Jerry Hicks, along with their only child, Abraham, (joking!) more in the limelight than ever before.
The seductive power of The Secret and the Law of Attraction behind it were irresistible for a culture lost in consumerism and unable to find its way out of a spiritual void.
The Law of Attraction
"That which is like unto itself is drawn" is the biblical sounding mantra used by Jerry and Esther Hicks in selling The Law of Attraction.
It's a slightly altered version of a slogan used by the creators of The Law of Attraction, when it first came into play in the New Thought Movement of the 1920s, with accounts for it's awkward and antiquated sound.
The Law of Attraction, which Jerry and Esther falsely claim to have originated, is, according to Abraham Hicks, the most powerful law in the universe.
According the Law of Attraction, whatever you think about instantly begins to manifest as the universe constantly gathers all its forces to deliver what you are focusing on.
The trick is that you may be careless in what you're thinking. If you're wishing for a better car, a strange analogy Jerry Hicks frequently employs, by thinking about what you hate about your old car, you're attracting your old car, not the new one.
Sound weird? It gets weirder.
"You get what you think about,whether you want it or not," Jerry Hicks proclaims in the audiobook for Ask And It Is Given.
If you are not getting what you believe you clearly want, the flaw is in your way of thinking.
Banish all but thoughts about the features you crave in that new car, and presto... Well, not quite. There is another caveat.
According to Abraham Hicks, the all powerful Law of Attraction works in a three step process.
First, you ask with your thoughts. Of course, this is virtually automatic because you are thinking all the time. If you think predominantly positive thoughts, you are asking for positive outcomes, whether you are conscious of the asking or not.
(In different versions, Esther Hicks claims that words and thoughts are meaningless and that you ask with your "vibrations," which draw other vibrations in the law of attraction. In Ask And It Is Given, the couple writes that your thoughts attract similar thoughts.)
Step two, Abraham Hicks claims "is not your job." In step two, "the universe answers."
This is immediate. Whatever you have asked for is delivered.
"It is law," announces Esther Hicks, acting as Abraham. "No exceptions."
But here's the catch. Esther and Jerry Hicks once ran a string of "art of allowing" workshops because, in step three, it's your job to allow what the universe has delivered.
The universe, Jerry and Esther Hick claim, did it's job by delivering the car, the perfect health, Montana Wildhack, Tarzan, a string of McMansions around the world, whatever you asked for.
If you don't see them, it's simple:
"You're not letting it in."
Almost in the same breath, they provide another, somewhat contradictory escape hatch.
The reason you don't see that Rolls Royce in your driveway, Montana Wildhack topless in the front seat, is because of "the buffer of time," a gimmick that lets your dreams come gloriously through in the proper sequence.
In the anger that followed being denied trademark status for "law of attraction," the buffer of time evolves into the "vortex of attraction," a virtual holding tank for new cars, big houses and perfect lovers.
Only the slickest of deliveries could land this turkey so that it looks like a sleek, personal jet.
The Law of Attraction, the whole basis for the teachings of Abraham Hicks, came with an out for which Esther and Jerry Hicks could not be blamed.
It was your fault. You weren't letting it in.
Or, if that didn't sell, you get your buffer of time extending the abundant roll out of pleasures into infinity.
Later, angered by the refusal of their application to legally trademark the term "Law of Attraction" because it had been kicking around for nearly a hundred years already (Esther and Jerry thought nobody would notice.), Abraham Hicks reduced their use of the term in their presentations and it remains on their website to enhance search results, complete with the dishonest marketing phrase,
"Here's where it all started."
They now use the clunky term "Vortex of Attraction" most frequently, making lemonade from lemons.
The vortex, it now turns out after twenty years of Abraham Hicks workshops without a mention, is where all those goodies the universe delivered are waiting until you're vibrating at the right frequency to let them in.
Or maybe for the buffer of time to melt down.
Followers now refer to themselves as being "ootv," or out of the vortex, when they're not receiving what they've asked for, recognizing a need for better "vibrational alignment."
(It would take a lot more stamina than I have today to try to explain "vibrational alignment," but take it from me, it's what you need to have in order to have your goodies delivered. Probably, although you may still have that pesky buffer of time to deal with, too.)
Abraham Hicks, A Nonphysical Entity
Abraham, Esther Hicks tells us, came into being with a biblical, male name because they believed that would make it easier for followers to relax with them and learn.
Esther claims that Abraham Hicks is a gathering of about one-hundred nonphysical teachers who coalesce to deliver answers and teachings at their workshops and to write bestselling books.
(They also do one on ones for wealthy followers, like Jim Carey and Jennifer Anniston, who can hand over big bucks, but not for people like you and me.)
Abraham Hicks is brought into Esther instantly as she relaxes into a sort of meditative state, standing in front of live audiences in her bare feet.
They speak through her voice and talk about Esther and Jerry in the third person.
Initially, they were inclined to be a bit solemn, but later learned to play and tease with audience members.
A troubling kink developed in 2010 when Esther, as Abraham, began verbally abusing audience members, even evicting some she claimed were "out of vortex" to the delight of other audience members, all of whom must have been in the vortex.
For reasons detailed in Fifteen Reasons You Can't Trust Esther Hicks and Abraham, I don't think it's possible that any entity like what is described as Abraham Hicks is reaching out to help people by delivering blocks of thought to Esther Hicks. At least, not now.
If it were true, we would have to concede that these nonphysical teachers with access to all the knowledge ever available to humans is a sort of dunce, making errors from the obtuse to the silly to the offensive.
As a final note on that, I should add in fairness that a good friend with unimpeachable credibility tells a story about his first time at an Abraham Hicks workshop, back in the late 1990s.
A natural skeptic, he sat "with one foot out the door," ready to evacuate. But then, he saw "auras dropping all around Esther," as if the entities that comprised Abraham Hicks were arriving one at a time.
The likely solution to this contradiction is that, while once present and teaching, for several reasons, Abraham Hicks is no longer in the house.
Did Jerry And Esther Hicks Pick Up Their Law of Attraction Marbles and Go Home?
These days, Abraham-Hicks Publications is a successful business in the state of Texas. They promote Abraham Hicks Workshops and sell merchandise from recordings to guided meditation DVDs to printed transcripts.
Jerry Hicks, before succumbing to leukemia, was the boss. His management style was autocratic, requiring employees to punch time clocks and maintain diaries of their daily activities.
He was known to leave a trail of bodies of ex-employees and associates when he and Esther found them expendable or expecting to share too much of the bounty. Several dismissed associates were told, upon termination, that "Abraham said you'd be okay with it."
Esther Hicks, in real life, is the warmer, friendlier one of the pair but has a short temper and is prone to meltdowns over mistakes by underlings.
Life Is Supposed to be Fun
The picture you get from people who have worked for them is not of a couple with special insights or joy. Their "Life Is Supposed To Be Fun" motto was belied by years of hard work and long hours.
There were tensions between Esther and Jerry, who resented her getting most of the attention, and Esther's now grown daughter, Tracy, who was unhappy over Jerry's role in driving a wedge between her parents.
The image of a happy go lucky pair bouncing through a life of joy is part of the sale with no recognizable counterpart in their real lives.
Oprah Winfrey, Wayne Dyer, Louise Hay and others have been instrumental in promoting the false front that is Abraham-Hicks as enablers. Their endorsements helped people overlook the flaws and dishonesties.
Now that Jerry Hicks death has shown that the core of what has been preached in recent years is false, will they step up and apologize? (Note: Dyer has done just the opposite, stepping us as cheerleader in chief for Esther Hicks, at the behest of their mutual publisher, Hay House.)
Trusting the credibility of friends who have known them well, I believe that Esther Hicks did give birth to Abraham, a remarkable teacher of loving values, and that the riches brought through selling The Law of Attraction suffocated them.
Some astute researcher will dig deep and uncover the twenty-five year trail of teachings and be able to pinpoint when the teachings became more about Jerry and Esther Hicks' worldview than the one borrowed from the New Thought Movement, Jane Roberts and Sheila Gillette.
Abraham Hicks claims that you create your own reality, no exceptions, including Zanzibar, nuclear waste dumps and paradise:
"You are the vibrational writers of the script of your life, and everyone else in the Universe is playing the part that you have assigned to them."
Excerpted from the workshop in San Francisco, CA on Sunday, March 2nd, 1997
Their alleged insight is derived from stretching out an intuitive sense many people have about a "law of attraction."
But for profit, they take it to absurd lengths, and give it power by claiming it's not Esther and Jerry Hicks concoctions, but the message from a higher source, one you should not question.
No credible higher source of insight would tell you to ignore your highly evolved ability to reason in favor of "just trust me."
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© 2011 David Stone
What do you think?
Peter Messerschmidt from Port Townsend, WA, USA on April 14, 2013:
I have been part of and written many many articles for the New Age and self-development industries and I have never been able to quite get the Abraham thing to sit right with me. My experience is that most ostensible "channels" are flim-flam artists who manage to "hold themselves harmless" by abdicating personal accountability for their agendas and point of view by projecting them onto some "invisible party" that simply can't be verified. You know... you wake up one morning and say "It would be so cool if we could get people to pay $20 a box for our organic corn flakes" and 20 minutes later you're "on the air" going "Swami Bob came to me in a vision and said everyone's health would improve if you eat organic corn flakes." Bingo! Instant money maker. Yes, I'm a skeptic.That said... there is often some validity, purpose and genuine usefulness in the underlying messages... that people CAN use. It's just the "delivery system" that's a bit dodgy.
anonymous on January 06, 2013:
Another interesting and informative lens by you, Dave. You really do dig into your topics. - Thanks for sharing. :)
mjtaylor lm on March 12, 2012:
@anonymous: It's very hard to remove all our limiting beliefs, and vibrate only at the same frequency of all that we want ... we are, after all, co-creating with all other humans and especially with those closest to us so getting everything I want on my own schedule is not realistic. And it is also very difficult to hear all the negative thoughts we think. But I know if I don't get that "little red sports car" I want that on some level I have told myself I can't have it. I've found Ho'oponopono to be very useful in clearing limiting beliefs, Guess I had better think about making a lens for that if there isn't one ... so, no I don't think we can be happy all the time, but I am sure we can get happier all the time.
David Stone (author) from New York City on December 20, 2011:
@anonymous: Hi, Holly. Keep in mind that the "vortex" was invented by Esther and Jerry when popularity hit, lots of people started following and questions arose about why the "law of attraction" didn't seem to be working. The vortex was created as a sort of parking lot to answer the persistent questions of "Where's my stuff?" Esther had an answer. It was all in the timing. It would come when you were really ready. This was a natural result of their needing to find some way to explain a vast oversimplification of a truth we all sense in ourselves. To sell it, Esther and Jerry had to make it easier than others did. Then, they had to twist to rationalize why it didn't work.One of the core problems with what they claim to be Abraham's teachings is the "happy, happy, happy" thing. First, I should explain that neither other of the Hicks live that way anyway. They just sell it and live otherwise. Anyway, the problem is that happiness is experienced only in contrast. To be happy constantly is to be an emotional cripple. A rich life has a complex bag of emotions that makes the roller coaster of life a thrilling experience. To try to make others feel that they must be "happy, happy, happy" to be what? happy? It's exploitation, and I think they know it.
anonymous on December 20, 2011:
I find it interesting that this has come up. I have read and enjoyed the readings from the Vortex. Where I got confused was from Esther Hicks relaying Abraham's messages. I do believe in some of what Abraham said, : to become one with the vortex, you have to remove every negative thought out of your brain. I've tried it, and found that I've felt better. However, realistically, can we truly be "happy all the time?":-) I would love for someone to comment on this, positively please, to see if I am not alone
anonymous on October 16, 2011:
@David Stone1: dear David,I have actually been kicked out of the hot seat, was one of the first. It was something new they were trying, and I understood the reasoning. They were not wanting questions that were just asking people to tell them about what's in their vortex. I was stuck on wanting to ask a question, so they gave me some guidance helped me out and made way for the next people, but did it in a fashion that would seem to someone who is not up to speed with the goings-on, that I was kicked out rudely. That was not the case. It was not humiliating but was actually very funny.As far as why I love attending the seminars, I love the people, having been on a few cruises I have many close friendships and so it is more of a fun way to hang out with friends. Many of us don't need to hear the message again, but we love hanging out and hearing inspirational hotseat interactions as it can be so amazing and inspiring. I'm not sure if you have been in the audience with an open mind but there is something magical about the discourses that can take place. There are actually some people that have gone on the cruises but not to the seminars because they don't desire to attend the workshops anymore but they love hanging out with the wonderful Abraham people.They have coached me to get dreams that I wouldn't have believed possible. I know many others personally that have also had amazing manifestations from following the simple truths they share. If you really listen to, and understood the message then you would not be asking the questions you,but really I am wasting my words here. I honestly realize that I cannot change your mind on this, you have come to your own conclusions. Nor do I want to as we need both sides of the coin to make it a coin.Abraham does not specifically say do not seek medical advice. They give examples and certainly have certain point of view. They actually always tell people to follow their own guidance. They always say you do not need us, you have everything you need to make your own decisions, we are just trying to remind you of that. they say if you feel strongly about certain action then follow it. They say make a decision and stand behind it. That is exactly what Jerry and Esther did and I wish them all the best on their path. I have never put them on a pedestal of being perfect, but I appreciate the passion they have for their message and how they have shared it in such a dedicated fashion.It is like a beautiful song I love to hear. If the artist is flawed by one's perspective, do we say that song is not good because of that? I prefer to just enjoy the music and realize the song is separate from the artist.I realize this discourse will do nothing to change your point of view but I just wanted to put it out there for other readers so they could perhaps educate themselves and make up their own minds about things instead of deciding through very biased writing that is typical of media in taking certain points and making arguments that perhaps don't show the big picture.I have enjoyed this discourse with you David. It has showed me areas that I can work on and I'm not surprised I attracted seeing your work after an interaction I had last night. It is a good lesson to see others' opinions and not become emotionally involved but to look for the good in them and wish them well realizing we are all connected and part of the same unconditional love of the universe.All the best David.
anonymous on October 16, 2011:
@David Stone1: dear David,It is interesting how you describe their followers. Knowing many of them I would say that most are very aware of the fact that Jerry and Esther are humans with wonderful qualities and some perceived qualities perhaps less than wonderful, just like anyone else. They also realize it is not about Jerry and Esther or even Abraham, but taking from the message what works for them in expanding to be a more effective and loving being.I listen to channels because they all give off such a loving message, I feel true unconditional love that I aspire to integrate and evolve to. It is not reassurance but inspiration. It makes me feel good and gives me excitement about the potential in my life and in the world. Human-based material seems to be lacking the pure unconditional love without judgment that channeled material has to me.I completely agree that wealth does not correlate happiness, I was merely making a point that many people have had great success integrating the principles of what is called law of attraction. Abraham never preaches stuff equals happy. It's actually the opposite, you must be happy or you will never have stuff. Happiness comes first and should be there regardless of the stuff. But David, in this world stuff is fun to have and I enjoy being able to travel and expand my horizons seen stuff that financial abundance opens doors for.Of course it is always a judgment what is the leading edge. If your definition of the leading edge contains criticizing and judging people in determining who is right and wrong when they are following their passions, while perhaps you're right. I preferred not to be on the leading edge.It really leads back to why I love channeling, never any judgment, the pure love that I feel really reminds me of who I can be, and we can all be if we could look for the good in everyone. How can you comment on Jerry or Esther or anyone else's true desires when you have not spent a moment in their shoes.That's what surprised me, when I hear someone seems well-versed in intellectual judging and deciding what is right and wrong and who is legitimate, it reminds me why I love listening to channel as it never lowers itself to such basal vibrations of discourse.Of course you have every right to say what you think, and if it makes you feel good in of course you are on your path. We all have our own past and I look forward to future where we can all just love each other regardless of the past we choose as I will look for things in you that I can love, even if I don't agree.I do wish you continued blessings on your path.please excuse any grammatical errors as it was difficult to look back over my writing to correct them.Philip
David Stone (author) from New York City on October 16, 2011:
@anonymous: I write much more about art and books than I do about the Abraham Hicks Show, but no one ever accuses me of have a bug up my ass about either. A-H hits a cord because vulnerable followers are confronted with the weaknesses of their gurus and find it hard to take. They react, sometimes much more angrily than you. I'm always surprised that anyone "listens to many channels." If they contain the "same truths," why keep looking for reassurance?Whether I'm "smart" or "poor" or a member of "you people" isn't as important as you're thinking of rich as good and poor as bad, not to mention smart as bad and dumb as good. Too many studies have proven that wealth does not correlate to happiness to accept this as accurate. But that does reflect what Esther preaches. Stuff = happy. It doesn't. And most of the world knows it. I wish you were on the leading age, you and all the Abe followers who are frittering away their minds and imaginations of childhood hopes they should have outgrown. We need you as part of the evolution we are going through. You absence diminishes everyone else and detracts from the process. I hope you will reconsider soon and join those of us in hot pursuit of a fuller spiritual and intellectual involvement in an extremely interesting and engaging world. Recess is over. Come back to school.
David Stone (author) from New York City on October 16, 2011:
@anonymous: Philip, you wrote: "I have never heard Abraham lose their patience with anyone ever." Then, you need to look further. Even on the Abe Forum, which David Gordon is paid to tightly control for positive content, it was a subject of concern. Esther even kicked people out of the hot seat (who she had put there) before they could finish a complete sentence, in one case not a single world, humiliating them in front of an audience."You also wrote: "I have been in the audience for dozens if not hundreds of hours, and listen to hundreds of hours more.... I am not a fanatic."When people crave repetition of a simple message, it exposes and addiction that needs a regular fix before it dissolves. And dissolve it will if you stand back and stop for a moment.I'd challenge you to explain "the amazing work that they have done." Like all motivational speakers, they have inspired listeners. It's part of the job. But to do what? What kind of "dreams" have they coached people to get in their escrow? The preach narcissism and self-gratification as if their listeners occupy complete little worlds all their own with no needs other than their own being of any merit.And by the way, I've heard powerful statements from others about the damage that has been done, especially in terms of medical care which is an area where Jerry and Esther, it turns out, don't even follow their own guidance.
anonymous on October 15, 2011:
@anonymous: wow, I just noticed the rest of your writing. Had I known you had such a bug up your ass over this subject I wouldn't have wasted my words as the cynic is as close minded to any perceived truth as the zealot. I listen to many channels and all their work is parallel, and contains the same truths. Abraham is perhaps one of the more prolific and mainstream ones.I find it very funny when people talk about all the stupid rich people that follow Abraham, while all you smart poor people know better. it's just coincidental that we're rich. I wasn't before I started following Abraham's message,so I will continue to be stupid and rich, thank you very much. I have seen my results from following the simple message they, and others share. It has worked wonderfully for me. But please continue your spiteful rantings as it's fun to be one of the lucky few on the leading edge, I prefer it not be crowded.You are quite a character.Cheers!
anonymous on October 15, 2011:
@David Stone1: I couldn't disagree with you more.The vortex simplified the emotional guidance system and the message. I have listened to the progression of the message and getting the vortex, if you understand really what that exemplifies and means is wonderful progression of the message.I have never heard Abraham lose their patience with anyone ever. I have been in the audience for dozens if not hundreds of hours, and listen to hundreds of hours more. That is one of things that continually blows me away is there patience, even when there has been somewhat antagonizing hotseat visitors.I have been in the hot seat as someone they have given a hard time to, I never have seen it as humiliating or belittling, but challenging and to the point. they seem to know the vibration of someone and who can handle that and being a little tougher than others, but it is always tied in with a loving conclusion.I was at what could be the last cruise in July, and although Jerry was not there, Abraham was at their finest. It was an amazing experience and they were playful and profound. So I really don't understand your last paragraph at all. Of course we all experience our own realities so yours obviously shows where your vibration is so you have every right to your opinion.As someone who enjoys their message, but also enjoys many other influences so I am not a fanatic, but to belittle the amazing work that they have done is a reflection of perhaps something within you. this quote I just read from them seems quite poignantJust love everybody that interacts with you no matter how personally, or how peripherally, involved with you they are. The efficiency of the people who deal with you... everything is orchestrated by the manager called Law of Attraction. And your vibration is setting all of it into motion. Everything affecting you is a reflection of the vibration that you are emitting. Spend more time focused upon your dream than upon the reality. The reality gives birth to the dreambut the dream is where you are wanting to put your attention.--- Abrahamall the best and I appreciate your passion and belief in what you do. That is very commendable and I'm sure you're doing what you feel is right.Cheers
David Stone (author) from New York City on October 15, 2011:
@cpumums: I agree with you pretty much, but to be frank, Esther and Jerry have not really been in the place you and I both feel good with for a few years. The "emotional guidance system" gave way to the vortex and the buffer of time a few years back. Now, all they seem able to focus on is people who are having trouble because they can't ge their stuff. And Esther has lost patience with many of them, much unlike loving all-knowing being she claimed Abraham was, and has on numerous occasions belittled and humiliate people in the hot seat, blaming them because following her advice as best they could did not work out for them. It was sea change, and I miss the person you are describing. But it's gone. With Jerry's illness at an advanced age, I suspect it never will. Jerry always was Abraham, and Esther was a phony mirror, even though they wanted badly to believe otherwise themselves.
cpumums on October 15, 2011:
When I first became aware of Abraham-Hicks, I had already been reading about the Law of Attraction from other sources. They all said that they credited the New Thought movement in the !9th century. What I like about Abraham-Hicks is the "emotional guideline". While not exclusive to Abraham-Hicks, it is unique in that it explains a lot about the emotional aspect of the new Thought movement.