This article is a further warning shot about the so called “Welsh Outpouring” which is taking place in Cwmbran, Wales.
Victory Church is part of the Ecumenical “Churches Together” which includes the Roman Catholic Church and other the main denominations. The Roman Catholic Church is believed to be “The Whore of Babylon” (Revelation 17/5) by many because of their absolute departure from the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles and their stance of papal infallibility above the Word of God. Babylonian symbolism is heavily featured in the Roman Catholic Church. The World Council of Churches is assimilating the main denominations and increasingly many previously fundamental Evangelical churches are being drawn into its ecumenical agenda. The prophesied end time one-world religion of the Antichrist is quite literally being fulfilled and the church is mostly fast asleep.
There are also other questionable associations that Taylor has allowed to have an influence upon Victory Church:
- Tommy Tenney was guest speaker at Victory Church on the 10th of February 2013. Tommy Tenney is the author of the book The God Chasers which has been widely condemned as promoting the anti-Trinitarian “Oneness” heresy of Sabellianism.
- John Glass, General Superintendent of the Elim Pentecostal Church was a guest at Victory Church in May. Victory Church is Elim Church Incorporated. Glass has taught New Age visualisation techniques and was a supporter of Todd Bentley. Elim has strong links with the Latter Day Rain heresy and the Word-Faith movement. Despite all this, Glass is highly esteemed by Taylor.
- Dominionist and proven false teacher Lou Engle and his team of eight were welcomed with open arms in May by Taylor at Victory Church: “During their 40 day fast they had visions and dreams of Whales jumping around in the sea. They believe God was showing them that Wales is a significant place where God is moving, so they came!” http://www.victorychurch.co.uk/outpouring-update-11
- On the 17th of June, guest Nathan Morris of Shake the Nations "Ministries" proceeded to shout and scream repetitively “FIRE” FIRE” and blew on people so that they “fell in the Spirit” after a prolonged period of so called "worship" (actually mantras). Nathan Morris led the Bay of the Holy Spirit “Revival” in Daphne Alabama together with John Kilpatrick of Pensacola fame (Brownsville Assemblies of God). Nathan Morris associations also include "Holy Ghost Bartender" Rodney Howard-Browne and ecumenical Reinhard Bonnke. The history of these wolves in sheep's clothing is very well documented.
- Roy Fields “praise leader” at the so called “Lakeland Revival” (closely connected with "MR BAM" himself - Todd Bentley), made an appearance at Victory Church on the 26th and the 27th of June.
- Taylor also openly condones God TV which sports the false money preachers etc.
...............and so it goes on.
Richard Taylor preaches a “backwards gospel” in two major respects:
- He declares sinners to be “clean” before they receive salvation.
- He declares that sinners receive the Holy Spirit prior to salvation.
Watching Taylor more closely, I have noticed that he gets extremely aggressive and anti- doctrinal on both these issues at the prospect of being challenged. If anything is the wrong way round i.e. backwards, twisted or taken out of context, this is a sure sign of Satan. The plain teaching of the Bible is first the preaching of the Word with salvation and signs following (Mark 16/20). The question that desperately needs to be asked is: What exactly are these unbiblical manifestations and why are so called “signs” preceding the preaching of the Word? It is very suspicious that Taylor becomes so defensive when the question of these manifestations comes up.
ROSICRUCIAN COMPASS ROSE
STAR OF ISHTAR
PAPAL COAT OF ARMS
PERGAMON MUSEUM BERLIN
The symbolism used in the “Outpouring” in regard to the preaching platform at Victory Church also merits some additional comments.
It does seem very odd that the preaching platform is in the masonic colours of black and white in the style of a Greek temple with double twin pillars with a black and white nautical star (compass) beneath them. Many people may be uninformed, but this symbolism is Babylonian and occult.
An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the Babylonian sun god. "The Babylonian star-cult is the core and the archetype of subsequent astrology.” The eight or sixteen pointed star is the solar symbol of the ancient Babylonians – the star of Ishtar (Astarte/Ashtoreth/Venus). The eight pointed star of Isis/Astaroth is also known as the “Sigil of the Beast 666”. In Judaism Venus/Ashtoreth becomes Lucifer the light bearer. In Isaiah 14/13 both Lucifer and the king of Babylon are called “the king of the north”. The eight pointed star compass points to the north - this is a hidden reference to Ishtar “The Light-bringer” aka Satan.
You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north. (Isaiah 14/13)
And the king (of the north) shall do as he wills. He shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is decreed shall be done. He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all.(Daniel 11/36-37)
See also Jeremiah 4/6-7 and Joel 2/20 for further negative connotations concerning the north.
There are many further negative meanings of the eight pointed star which are too numerous to mention here – I have listed a few of them below:
- It is the symbol of chaos.
- It is a Gnostic symbol, known as the octagram of creation.
- The Illuminati Eight-fold Path of Enlightenment.
- The eightfold path of witchcraft and the eight nights of human sacrifice.
- Two pillars are also a prominent emblem of the Freemasons:
…..they represent the pillars Jachin and Boz which Hiram of Tyre made for Solomon, and set one on either side of the entrance to the Temple, to commemorate the pillar of cloud by day and of fire by night which guided the Israelites in their forty years' wanderings in the wilderness." http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/history_of_the_two_pillars.htm
- The compass and square is of course a very well known masonic symbol.
- “The "Double Square" (or "Star of Lakshmi") is the Masonic symbol of two superimposed squares at 45° angles representing order and disorder.”
- The Rosicrucian compass rose is used widely in Freemasonry.
- The eight-pointed star is represented in Freemasonry as the degrees of the Royal Ark Mariners, the Noachites, and the Ark and Dove.
For a so called “church” in a modern building holding a supposed “Outpouring”, it is very odd indeed that the symbolism of ancient Babylon of all things is used. The lectern appears to be a direct copy of the temple of Zeus where many of the Babylonian mysteries were preserved. The Great Altar of Zeus in ancient Pergamum (now Pergamon) in Asia Minor (now Turkey) is believed to be the “Throne of Satan” in the book of Revelation (2/12). The Pergamon Altar was the model for the Zeppelintribüne, Hitler's Tribute in Nuremberg which was the site of the Nazi Party's annual national rally (Reichstag) where Hitler was virtually worshipped as a god. In 2008, a copy of the Pergamon Altar was erected as President Obama’s stage at the democratic convention in Denver.
"The Greek god Zeus (Ζεύς) comes from the Baal-Zaphon (בַּעַל צְפן), the “Lord of the north.” According to Isaiah 14:13, Mount Zaphon is associated with the palace of Satan, the devil. In the New Testament, Baal-Tzaphon becomes “Beelzebub,” lord of the flies, i.e., the devil… " http://www.h4cblog.com/category/babylon
The idolatrous Greek temple imagery has been openly displayed at the so called “Welsh Outpouring”. In contrast, the extermination of all images and altars connected with the worship of Baal under Jehoiada the priest was a sign of true repentance and revival in Israel:
Then all the people of the land went to the house of Baal and tore it down; his altars and his images they broke in pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars. (2 Kings 11/17)
What is the thinking behind this disturbing symbolism at Victory Church? There are just too many questionable things about this so called “Outpouring” for it to merit any serious consideration as a genuine move of God.
Signs of the close of the age: And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. (Matthew 24/11)
Please read the comments on the link below following Rob's recent article about this.
TheBiPolarClown on October 18, 2015:
To gaynor lloyd and the blog owner
I too was there in 1994 to 1995.
I have been looking for others who were there around this time.
There are so many questions i have about the girls home where the abuse happened i know it happened and so many other things that i need to try and get clear in my head.
I was 20 yrs old and went over to Cork in Ireland when i was there apparently to open a male hostel there as well.
I am still a born again christian but i struggle so much after my experience there. My email is email@example.com
Can anyone post the link to the man who was convicted and info on his wife ?
Thank you in advance x
Anonymous on November 15, 2013:
Hello Caroline Yes I have to agree, you would be much better off leaving Victory church, it will be impossible for you to grow in the faith under their pastoring, or rather the lack of it. I also used to attend there, but left a long time ago. Many many others I know also have left. They are only concerned about the numbers they can put forward, they don't care enough about the person. Taylor has lost all interest now that he has what he really wanted, fame. It helped get him to where he is, he has no further use for Victory now, along with all the people he trampled on to get him there. What he needs now is our prayers. I pray you will find somewhere that you can worship, and be fed, and grow. God bless you
TREENA GISBORN (author) from LEICESTER ENGLAND on November 14, 2013:
Dear Caroline You would definitely be better to leave Victory Church. I will pray for you that you will find somewhere else to go or at least have fellowship with others. Thank you for your input God bless
caroline on November 14, 2013:
ive been going to victory for many years sceen it grow and this was the placed i was saved and even healed to walk from a wheelchair what i have read is true and have saw the star symbol and pillers the outpooring was out of this world could feel gods presence at times other not atall many people have left the church as there is a lack of pastoral care and pastor ritchard has actually left for the last few days ive been praying about what to do either continue victory or move on in gods name and ways victory has changed dramacly and it's a huge shame they accept loads of people but don't take care of the oraginal fellowship even find the people and pastors haven't asked why we not there and don't seem missed
Steve on August 07, 2013:
Interesting articles I enjoyed sensing your commitment to standing for the truth but I would have liked to have seen more of Richard Taylor's direct quotes and not just your thoughts about them so I can judge for myself the context in which they were said. However your article have indeed encouraged me to look much closer at this issue. In any event well done for all the obvious hard work you have put in.
Jeff Nicholas on August 03, 2013:
I live in Cwmbran and worship in an Evangelical Church in the town. I have had lots of feedback from people who have been there and also done a lot of research. My conclusions are of much the same as the bloggers on here. I do not believe this is a genuine moving of God, as there is little mention of repentance and Pastor Richard Taylor has invited the most controversial heretics to visit his church.
I also have found that one night last month the congregation were all engaged in 'holy laughter' which is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit. In fact it goes against one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit....self control.
The telltale signs are too obvious for me!
berean7 on July 28, 2013:
I AM TELLING YOU ALL NOW THIS WELSH OUTPOURING IS ALL A BIG CON. PLEASE DO NOT BE FOOLED.
TREENA GISBORN (author) from LEICESTER ENGLAND on June 28, 2013:
Thank you very much Colwyn I will read with interest. God bless you
ColwynDavies on June 28, 2013:
You may know about these but I will send them for you and your readers.
TREENA GISBORN (author) from LEICESTER ENGLAND on June 26, 2013:
I am getting confirmations but people seem to be afraid to say anything in public Colwyn. Thank you for your input. God bless you.
ColwynDavies on June 26, 2013:
Many thanks for blogging. It is time everyone knows the real agenda of Richard Taylor and Victory Church.
Obviously is all boils down to money and fame - in Christian circles we call it "Empire Building"
The same congregation travel to all the different churches and they boast great numbers whereas they are the same people.
Richard states he does not get a wage from the church but does in fact from Victory Outreach UK. He also said in one meeting that the Church supports Victory Outreach.
My Son in Law used to attend the church for a little while and became very friendly with some of the staff there. He left because of Heretical preaching and simply got sick of Richard's arrogance in the pulpit.
Anyway could say lots more but space is not permitting!
William Kovacic from Pleasant Gap, PA on June 11, 2013:
Thanks for your continuing study and warning. We are to be "watchmen and women on the wall. Thank you for being obedient.
TREENA GISBORN (author) from LEICESTER ENGLAND on June 11, 2013:
Thank you for this encouragement Shofarcall - I would be very interested to get your views if you get a chance to visit Victory Church. We would love revival as you say, but it has to be Biblical and the Bible does warn about a falling away in the end times and a false church. God bless you.
shofarcall on June 11, 2013:
Although I have not commented as yet, I have followed all your hubs regarding Victory Church in Wales and Richard Taylor.
I have been onto their website and watched one or two of the videos and like you described concerning the 'setting' - it made me very uncomfortable. Very Romanesque. Why????
I have waited as well to reply because Wales has great associations with true revival in the early 19th Century. I know that Wales generally, is quite a devout 'country' in a seemingly ungodly Britain. Although, I think even this may be deceptive as it is the 'traditional' churches which seem to be empty but from what I hear, many are gathering in His name in other ways.
What is so disturbing about this, is we would so like this to be true. We all desire and yearn for an outpouring of God's Holy Spirit. We are all (his children) hungry for revival.
I am hungry too, but so aware of the deception, apostasy etc that we are warned of in these times.
I will be in the UK Aug-Oct and may find opportunity to visit this church.....will let you know then. God Bless you Eliora for keeping a watchful eye.