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The Workings of the Holy Spirit

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As a deer thirsts for streams of water, so my soul thirsts for thee O God. Psalm 42: 1.

THE WORK OF THE SPIRIT IS IN ALL WHO SUBMIT TO HIS LEADING.

There are many Christians who don’t yet know how the Spirit communicates with them, even though they know that we all receive the Spirit when we first believe but some aren’t yet fully aware of how he manifests himself in us - or that the idea is somehow ‘foreign’ to them. But I suspect it’s much more than that, they are just lukewarm in their faith, which is a dangerous condition to find ourselves in and there are so many like that. We all need to be prepared ‘to go the extra mile’ to realise it. This article will hopefully shed some light on that.

The first thing to know and believe is that he does so in a number of ways and not everyone will experience it the same way.

The second thing to know and believe is that Satan can transform himself into an angel of light and he will do his best to deceive you - the Spirit will testify of Jesus, Satan will not. 1st John 4: 1 - 6 tells us about it and it is clear.

And 1st John 2: 27 says: But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him. Scripture tells us that the Spirit will lead us if we are willing to allow him, and this is the point that so many are unconscious of and don't realise that lukewarmness is the core of the problem.

The Spirit’s teaching is not in a direct way (as in a classroom situation) but more of an indirect way through scripture by bringing it to mind and also in confirmation by promptings. By availing yourself of scripture as much as you can as well as a good teaching ministry such as ichthys.com, the Spirit will cause you to understand what you read little by little. And it doesn’t just mean to only wait on the Spirit’s teaching, you have to play your part as well – neglecting to read the scriptures can and may lead to apostasy if you’re not prepared to study His words, or everything else that pertains to learning and growing. There are so many who profess but by mouth only - and that's the easy bit! There's more to do than talk the talk. And if you sit idly by waiting for the Spirit to teach you everything, you will be waiting a long time. Others so gifted by the Spirit can teach us as well, Ephesians 4: 12 says: For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.

It is said that the Spirit speaks softly, barely even a whisper, and not always in an audible voice – he causes you to know in spirit in your heart. The Spirit is often described as a wind, you cannot see it but you can know the effects of it, Acts 2: 2.

Sometimes you might receive a ‘seed thought’ in your mind planted there by the Spirit and you don’t know how it arrived there but you know in your heart it’s true and it’s something for you to think on. It might be just a single word or a whole thought process that causes you to think on and consider. If you are even vaguely aware of scripture or well versed in it, he sometimes brings a verse or passage to your mind, which could be an answer to something you may be thinking about, John 15: 7 says: If ye abide in me and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Other times it can be a warning on a multitude of things and may be instilled spiritually or demonstrated physically – and I’ve had both, which should never be ignored. And sin is only one of them. We ALL sin, passed down from Adam and we all will but we need to remember that we cannot serve two masters. Confession is on a daily basis as we all sin in some form every day, at times without even knowing it and we must do it quickly after it happens, once you're aware of it – and don’t let it grow into a larger issue where you will struggle to control it. And we should all try our best 'not to grieve the Spirit' (denying) by always putting Jesus first in our lives, Ephesians 4: 30 says: And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. There are some who misinterpret this verse to mean salvation can't be lost once it's given - THAT IS NOT SO. If that were so, very few would be saved because He knows who will or won't remain in faith until the end - and that is by continuing. Salvation is in two parts, firstly when we first believed here on earth and then fully after death, either if that's before or during Tribulation, or whether we're raised alive at the end, Matthew 24: 13. Salvation must be in two parts simply because we are still here after receiving it - we remain here as a witness before others as we haven't been 'taken home' yet. The first part is an interim or probationary period to prove and demonstrate that our faith is genuine and lasting until the end - or that it isn't. There are many who wrongly think that salvation is unconditional. Yes, Jesus loves us unconditionally but salvation is conditional. As long as you remain and continue, that is the requirement that makes salvation conditional. But it doesn't mean that you can't regain your salvation if you return before your death as in the following verses: Romans 11: 22 - 23, Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in His goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again - and these are just two of many verses that tells us.

Since faith can be lost and salvation depends on faith, salvation can be lost.

We must also be very careful that we don’t misinterpret the Spirit’s leading or prompting for the ‘tricks of the devil’ as he is always trying to ‘throw you off your course’ and he will do that by stealth, you will never see his attacks coming so you must constantly be on guard, which will only increase as the day draws closer. One of his favourite tricks is to cause you to look back on past mistakes, which is just to break you down by your own feelings of guilt – looking back is the direct opposite of forward progress. Satan is quick to remind us of our past - so whenever he does that, remind yourself of his future, of which he has none - he hates that and doesn't want you to remember that. The Spirit will never cause you to look back on the past as all sins that are confessed are forgiven and if this is happening to you, just know who is doing it and stamp on it quickly. The further you advance in forward progress in His grace through reading and sound teaching the Spirit will come to you if you ask God to send him and you will soon recognise the tricks that the devil will use against you.

And sometimes the Spirit can also warn you about an impending danger that you might not have even been aware of. There have been many instances in my own life - and others have told me of similar instances, that I now know danger had been averted, even certain death I have miraculously escaped on a number of occasions, which was not in my own power. The realisation of these 'occasions' has caused me to think - what was the reason, was it just luck, or was a higher authority involved?

The Spirit is sometimes referred to as the comforter and by that we know that he kindly and patiently understands our feelings and he is also referred to as a Dove, which is one of the gentlest of birds and just like a Dove, he will take flight if you don’t respect him. There may be times when we all need comforting, and he will provide that in the kindest of ways. Sometimes we can feel so lost in this perishing world from the pressures that are all around us and 2nd Corinthians 4: 8, 9 is good to understand and remember - We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed. And sometimes we can be so troubled that we just don't know what to say - if we just place ourselves (the mind) in a position of prayer he will intercede on our behalf as he already knows what is troubling us, Romans 8: 26, 27 is clear: Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered. And He that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. And as John Bunyan, author of The Pilgrims Progress once said, "In prayer it is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart", which is good advice to those who may be troubled. This is a short story that all should read and you can download and read it free.

He is indeed, our helper and there is none like him, John 14: 16 – 18 says: And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you forever. Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and he shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. A beautiful promise.

The information given to us in the Bible about the Spirit is a wonderful thing – you just need to believe it, wait for it and recognise it, which is all about faith and then submission, James 4: 8 says in part: Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Drawing nearer to God is what He is wanting everyone to do and by never ceasing to pray is how you get closer to Him. The more you pray, asking God to send His Spirit - eventually you will recognise his still small voice.

There is no need to be alone in this struggle, which is why the Spirit was given in grace to help us, teach us, strengthen us, guide us, counsel us and even correct us, which is all done in spirit. In 2nd Thessalonians 2: 7 it tells us the restrainer (the Spirit) will be 'taken out of the way' to allow Tribulation to begin just prior to the anti-Christ's appearance but he will still be in us right until the end to comfort and guide us. It may be a good thing to consider this: In this world, which is full of distractions, junk and ‘noise’ and all things that saturate your mind, which is just clutter and the Spirit will not compete with that. If you want the Spirit to come to you, you must de-clutter your mind by not giving any space to what is of little or no value.

In other words, keep Jesus as your primary focus.

James 4: 2, 3 is encouraging to read: My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers [meaning many] temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. These trials or temptations are not meant to make us fall but to rise above them, they are not meant to defeat us, they are meant to be defeated, they are not meant to make us weaker, they are meant to make us stronger. So we shouldn't agonise over them; we should rejoice in them. Remember it isn't God who tempts us, it is either Satan or by us ourselves.

Romans 7: 15 - 25 gives us a good indication of how the devil will keep throwing all manner of sin at us to keep us bound and it's not easy as Paul clearly states but we are our own keeper and we must try as hard as we can to resist him. I think this scripture is essential reading for everyone and if we don't put Jesus first in our lives, then Satan gets the victory and for those unaware, it may be good to read it here.

For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

The above verse comes from the KJV, which isn't easy to absorb at first but just read it slowly and it will make sense.

There are two natures in every one of us that are constantly at war with each other, our human nature and our divine nature - so which one will win?. . . . . . The one you feed!!! This is a good analogy of the above verses. And I think we can all understand this message that even Paul was struggling with as we all do and I think the analogy is enough said.

If you are wondering if the Spirit is truly in you, that is, you’re unsure about it – there are some simple conditions and it isn’t difficult. If you are a believer and you’ve decided you truly want salvation and then asked God to forgive your sins, you’ve already overcame the main hurdle. If you continue growing by reading His words - and this is the main requirement after making a solid commitment, the Spirit will come to you if you ask God to send him because he is promised. It's not just to a select few, he is in all of us - as long as we do our part, which is gained through reading the Bible as often as you can. Just on that last sentence, there are some that attend churches thinking whatever I hear it must be right because the preacher said so - and that isn't always the safest course to follow, always check what they say by reading and confirming it for yourself. What I'm saying here is the Spirit isn't just in the person preaching - if in fact it is, it's in you too. Then it’s just a matter of training yourself to hear and understand, which may take a little time – always listening for whatever way he will speak, or he prompts you by causing you to know in your heart. He is only waiting for you to prove your faith and he will, in time, reveal himself and truly, it’s a wonderful thing to know His Spirit is residing in you. It certainly makes you feel that much closer to God and His dear Son.

Remember that our own spirit was implanted by God at birth, which makes us 'alive' at that moment and our life-force or spirit is who we are and our body is just the vehicle that carries it around. And thinking a little further from that, God knows our spirit and our spirit knows God simply because it was Him who gave it. So because of that, no-one in all honesty can say they don't believe God exists. Then it stands to reason that the Spirit of God can and will certainly communicate with us through our own spirit into our hearts and minds, which in turn causes us to know and then correctly understand his message. Lukewarmness, or worse, unbelief is what stands in the way.

Even at a young age every person has the ability to understand the difference between what is right and what is wrong and it certainly is a good thing if all parents were to teach this characteristic in their children as early as possible. Even little children are not exempt from the Spirit's leading and teaching.

By accepting the Spirit’s leading hour by hour and day by day, submitting our often rebellious nature to his will you will come to know the Spirit and be influenced by him. For some, submission can be the hardest step in our walk - and this is the key to it and is also the next step after making a firm choice in walking in Jesus' footsteps. James 4: 7 says, Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. This is something that we must all be willing for and you can pray daily that the Spirit will come to you and help you, John 14: 23 says, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. This is not a one-off thing, it is ongoing if you continue.

Remember when you were young and trying to whistle? It took forever to learn but your persistence paid off – all of a sudden it happened! Learning to hear the Spirit is no different – keep persisting by reading His words and praying and it will happen. But don't expect it to be always audible, unless it is necessary, it's more by inwardly knowing and you just need to be patient and learn to recognise it. Galatians 5: 22, 23 are the characteristics of the Spirit's work: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And we should all try to reflect these characteristics in our own lives then others will know the Spirit dwells in us.

I would love to tell you more about how you know that the Spirit resides in you and it is certain and positive but I’m fearing if I were to explain it any further, some might possibly misconstrue my intentions by seeking the experience for experience’s sake rather than surrendering their will completely to his leading. Some could even say, if the Spirit spoke to me I would believe and that is so wrong - they are putting it the wrong way round! God doesn't make deals - whatever happened to faith? This is something we develop as we continue and you will have to seek it with all your heart and mind and growing through His words to find out for yourself and it isn’t just a half-hearted effort – it’s all or nothing – God is not interested in part-time soldiers, He knows who are seeking it for the wrong reasons, Jeremiah 29: 13 is beautiful to read: And ye shall seek me, and find me when ye shall search for me with all your heart, which is in spirit.

A little encouragement, if it can be called that. If it is our lot to suffer martyrdom during Tribulation, and many will, it is not unnatural to be thinking at this point in time – do I, or will I have the strength to suffer it? That really doesn’t matter until the time, and whether we are called to suffer it. If God has so marked us, then rest assured He will supply the strength needed at the time, 1st Peter 4: 12 – 14 is comforting: Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when His glory shall be received, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part He is evil spoken of, but on your part He is glorified.

It was expedient that one should die for many, in the end, many will die for one.

Keep in mind that Jesus was looking beyond the cross and it will help us if we adopt that attitude. And so it is with God’s help – He will amply supply the strength needed on the day.

All of us are going to face Tribulation in one way or another, that is, if you haven’t been mercifully called home beforehand and the words in Mark 13: 11 are good to remember and think on: But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit.

ichthys.com has so much more.

If anyone is interested and would like to read more of my articles, rather than searching for them, just click on the titles below and it will take you there. These articles are about salvation, some more direct than others but all will be of benefit to you. And if you deem them worthy and true, you might like to save them to 'favourites' for future reference. I constantly review these articles as the Spirit teaches and whenever I review them they are updated on your computer as well. You may even want to forward them to friends.

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    Many have differing views on this and I think the reason people believe something is because they heard it first from someone else and most believe the first thing they hear if it seems to be true. But you should examine it yourself before you agree.
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  • The Genesis Gap.
    Was there a world in existence before the flood of Noah? Look a bit closer, scripture will reveal it.

Comments

OLUSEGUN from NIGERIA on July 18, 2020:

Okay. I will be expecting. Have a lovely day

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on July 18, 2020:

Hi Olusegun,

Thank you for your kind thoughts and part of your testimony, it is very much appreciated.

I will send you an email with my email address shortly with more information and a few more questions hoping to be of benefit to each other.

Stay safe in Him, Olusegun and always, my best regards,

Jack.

OLUSEGUN from NIGERIA on July 18, 2020:

Jack Jenn, and you said i should not use "sir" for you. You have herein stated the reason why I should and must address you as "sir", because in our culture, we value respect of elders which bible also supported, as ti states "Pro 20:29 The glory of young men is their strength: and the beauty of old men is the gray head." and "Lev 19:32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."

You are in the age group of my father, he is in his early eighties now.

As the bible states that we should respect and honor the hoary head which means old people, that is what we do mostly in my land, Yoruba land.

Though this are changing because of education, but some of us who are still brought up by old people cannot change overnight and some of us would never change from that way.

I have come across "ichthys.com" once or more while preparing sermons to be preached in my local assembly here and articles to be published but after those, I do not return to the site except when I need to read another documentary on some portions of the bible. However, as suggested now, i will look into it more soon.

I will also tell you a bit about myself here, I am 48 years old man, single, and never married before, and was morally brought up with other siblings, however, when I was 15 years old, I "officially" gave my life to Jesus, as I was led to Christ by my late mother. She would also lead other siblings to Christ before she is gone to be with the Lord in 2015, June.

Then the yearning to know more about Jesus consumes me as I started disagreeing with some things that many people say, and the common rhetoric was and is that "our pastor" says that... I kept asking myself, what of if what your pastor says is not in tandem with what the bible says? This moves me closer to my bible. And i find myself discovering many things in the bible which those people do not discover because their lives revolve around what their pastors say in their denominations and they would not bother to check them out whether or not it is true.

Act 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

My family had some health problems which affected the business and it collapsed, this indubitably affected the financial status of the family and continuing our education become a major problem.

While seeking for solution, I got myself acquainted with a Pastor of blessed memory who took me through some knitty-gritties of the gospel. However, in an attempt to serve the Lord i got myself engaged in church activities but demons rose against us and there were issues. I had to leave that church and started thinking of how to reach the world with the true message of Christ.

Then, internet was not common here, then I decided that I shall be publishing books to bring people to Jesus Christ, however, the issue of finances was still there unresolved and this negatively affect the start up.

Then I called some friends together to start a Christian Bulletin called "The Light Publications" in 1999, I raised the money for the first editions but we could not make much gain from those articles and the people dispersed.

I managed to publish some other articles alone for about 7 years, and then my siblings ask me to publish a book which they raise money for and I published my first book in 2011 titled "Prayer and You", again as new author it makes no much sales, and since then I have been seeking for means of getting more money to be publishing my books.

God has helped me from my little business to publish two other books, the latest one being in my language, Yoruba.

In my quest to make more income through other means, that was when i come across this site and I am still exploring the site, however, the zeal, the passion for writing keeps me on.

This link (http://bit.ly/2mqc9Da) to my sermon last year as uploaded to the YouTube and this is my YouTube live stream channel's link - youtube.com/channel/UC4m3L5DUWiOLJ1yeewP1AsA/live.

I also guess the probability of meeting with you is near zero, but nothing is impossible in the world as long as there is life. However, we shall know ourselves there, Heaven, and I shall find you out there sir.

Warmest love from ILORIN, KWARA STATE, NIGERIA, to the family and brethren there.

Shalom!

- Olusegun.

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on July 17, 2020:

Hi Olusegun,

I am so glad to have made your acquaintance through these pages and I am even more glad to have you as a new brother - what a wonderful thing to have fellowship in so many different ways!

First up, perhaps I could tell you a little about myself - I am 76 years old, married to my wonderful wife, Jenny, and we have 3 sons, one is married with 2 children. I first learnt about God and Jesus as a 6 year old boy when my mother sent me to Sunday School and I hung onto it for a bit up til the age of 13 or so, where, like most kids of my generation, I drifted away from it. It's about that age when the fingers of the world start to wrap around you and I was no different. Then as I got into my 20's and early 30's, various friends would invite me along to the churches they were going to but it wasn't long before I asked myself - what are these people getting that I'm not, so I drifted away from those too but somewhere in the back of my mind the thoughts of God and Jesus didn't go away.

Then, about 30 years ago my employer at the time asked me to come to the church he belonged to and I agreed to go. Unfortunately, it was the worst decision of my life - unbeknown to me it was a cult and I belonged to it for 11 years until a family crisis brought me out of it. My family knew what it was but I didn't and I'm thankful they stood by me during that time. If I was to categorise it I would call it a 'soft' cult but a cult nevertheless and I will never go back to any man made religion as even the churches visible are all cult-like in their fallen state today and in the short time left, will get worse.

I guess it took a little while to recover from that experience but my love for God and Jesus wasn't dampened - my Bible and the Spirit became my church and from about 2001 I began to think more about what we read in Revelation. In particular, I was wanting to know more about Tribulation - what was going to happen during it and more so, when it was going to come.

There were many things still not revealed to me as yet, so I started to look for answers on the internet and there are so many worthless things there, which can trap the unwary. From cross-referencing what I was reading with the Bible I was soon able to determine fact from fiction and then I came across a site that was so unassuming, no glossy photos or hoopla or razmataz, that I dismissed it thinking it's nothing but something kept dragging me back to it and I'm so glad I did and it took me some time before I found it again. You may, or not have heard of it - if you Google ichthys.com you will find it and I promise you Olusegun, if you give it the time it deserves you won't be disappointed. This man is a University Professor of Classics and Languages in Louisville, Kentucky USA and he has dedicated his life to this work of truth. If you decide to look at it I would suggest you start in the Epistles of Peter Series, which are so helpful and then go into the Satanic Rebellion. If you save it to favourites, you will be going back to it many, many times.

The chances of our coming face to face this side of Heaven is slim but I will look for you on the other side as I know I will find you.

Stay safe in Him my friend,

Jack.

OLUSEGUN from NIGERIA on July 17, 2020:

@Jack, this is true, some read the bible for certificate purposes, they read it to acquire knowledge, while some read it raise questions about Christian faith, they will use what they read to attack believers, to question their faith in Jesus Christ, such people cannot be assume to have in-depth knowledge of the word of God because the word does not mix with faith in their lives such people cannot be said to have lukewarm attitude for they are out rightly out of Christ and salvation.

We 've got to read the bible with open minds, open heart to learn, see ourselves and new thing from the scriptures.

HubPages has provided a room for believers to meet, mix and rub minds together. I am also looking forward to learning more from you on this site.

And like I told Deaconess Cheryl on this site that, I look forward to meeting with her when the world is over, in heaven if we cannot see physically before we are called home or Jesus second advent, for Jesus says in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus that people know themselves there, heaven, as the rich man saw and recognizes father Abraham despite not being alive during his days on earth. (Luke 16:19-31), I also trust to see you in heaven if we cannot see physically on earth before we are stopped from our worldly activities.

Till then, we shall keep to rub minds, showing people the way of the cross, impacting lives positively.

Stay Safe. Stay Well.

Special regards from Ilorin, Nigeria to the brethren there.

- Olusegun.

OLUSEGUN from NIGERIA on July 16, 2020:

Jack. Again I am short of words here. I appreciate this. I know HubPages is one of the social media networks that give all irrespective of their location among others the chance to interact, learn, benefit etc. from one another. It is wonderfully wonderful coming to know you here, and as I said to another sister, Deaconess Cheryl on this media that, if we do not get to see each other physically on earth before we are called home, when I get to heaven, I shall look for her, because he says, we shall know ourselves, Jesus in his parable says, the rich man recognizes Lazarus, though at different ends (Luke 16:19-31) and Lazarus would recognize father Abraham to be resting on his bosom, thus, I know I will recognize her and we shall talk of what we have passed through in this perishing world. Thanks a bunch again. Stay Safe. Best regards.

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on July 16, 2020:

Hi OLUSEGUN,

Thank you for your insight and you are so right - so many who think of themselves as believers with only a fleeting interest in reading the Bible are sadly, blindly unaware of the lukewarm condition they're in and I like what you've said before about reading the Bible - it just keeps getting better and better. If only others would realise that.

Thanks to you I have read again the book of Lamentations, which I found very convicting, as it is not only the Israelites who have turned away, each to their own way and I have again realised our own pitiful state by what Jeremiah is constantly wailing about. And as well as verse 40 that you mention, verse 44 also, is something none would desire - Thou hast covered thyself with a cloud, that our prayer should not pass through. I would hate to think He would turn His back on me, yet for so many that may very well be the case if they don't turn again.

And sadly so many lukewarm believers are just 'sitting on the fence' and not knowing what side they're on, will have to make a decision one way or the other before not too long as Tribulation is closer than most realise. I sincerely hope that many will turn from apathy before Tribulation forces it.

I have enjoyed making your acquaintance OLUSEGUN and I hope we can be of benefit to each other.

Again my best regards,

Jack.

OLUSEGUN from NIGERIA on July 16, 2020:

Believer who does not read the bible is doing himself more harm than good because he or she would be lost in the perishing world. Good work.

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on June 04, 2019:

Hi Hilary,

Thank you for your valued comment to this article - it truly is a wonderful thing to experience the Spirit working in you for good in all things, even correction. And I have certainly had my share of that but it's good to know that just as a parents love for a child doesn't diminish during correction, neither does God's.

We know that scripture tells us that we receive God's seal, which will protect us from certain things during Tribulation (except martyrdom) and also His Spirit, which is given at the same time and he will reveal himself in time as you grow - it's just a matter of being patient and waiting on him, you only have to do your part by being serious about your salvation and continuing.

If you get some spare moments I would appreciate it if you would read my other articles - there aren't many and leave the END OF DAYS til last as it's quite long - the others are excerpts from it.

Knowing a little of your history from what you've said in your post, some of the things I've written may be at odds with your beliefs but I hope you might have an open mind to them and view them in truth and I'm happy to answer any questions you may ask.

I appreciate your blessings and may God bless you too Hilary.

Again my best regards,

Jack.

Hilary Hsieh from Georgia on June 04, 2019:

Hello, I quite enjoyed reading your article. I was never quite sure what role the Holy Spirit played in our lives, but I know now that it is God's way of speaking to us and giving us strength.

I also like how you clarified that we will only be saved if we continue believing in Jesus Christ. If we reject him after we are saved, we also reject his salvation. You avoided the mistake I made in my post. Wonderful job!

May God bless you!

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on February 22, 2019:

Hi Lori,

Thank you for your expression of kind words and you are so, so right, I'm sure it was God who coined the term - if only.....

I was shocked (even though I shouldn't be) at the behaviour mentioned, just further proof, which is sadly unseen by others, that Satan is stepping up his presence and will only get worse, far worse as the day draws closer.

Again my sincere thanks for reading and I hope it encourages you to read the same one I've asked Gerry to read - Matthew 7: 13 & 14, not many really understand these verses. There aren't many articles and I'm hoping you will read the others - leave THE END OF DAYS article til last as it's quite long.

Again Lori, thank you.

Jack.

Lori Colbo from United States on February 22, 2019:

Great job, Jack. So many Christians misunderstand the Holy Spirit and have acted as though He is a buffoon and really weird. I wrote an article on it once because it grieves my heart. I've seen all kinds of antics in the name of the Holy Spirit. The problem is, they have no clue who the Holy Spirit is and how He works in our lives.

I went to a meeting once where a small group of women had a bible study in a home. The study was fine, but then she said, "Let's pray," and all hell broke loose (It certainly wasn't anything heavenly). The ladies began laughing hysterically, then one woman was on all fours on the floor oinking like a pig. I was so outraged and grieved I left. My friend who invited me followed me out and asked why I was leaving. I told her because what was going on was of Satan. She insisted it was a move of the Holy Spirit. Years later she left the Lord.

I was at another meeting at the invitation of a friend. The worship songs were a half hour long each, mostly just music and repeating the same words over and over. The pastor gave a lesson. No real red flags. Then he said, "Let's pray." Hysterical laughing and acting drunk broke out. The group of young people in the pew in front of me got so raucous the pew fell backward on my feet and I got a hard elbow in the ribs. When we left my friend said, "Wasn't that a powerful move of the Holy Spirit?" These people are looking for wild experiences and attention. So sad. Thanks for shedding light on the Holy Spirit. I hope many will read it.

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on February 19, 2019:

Thank you Dana and I hope they will be of some benefit.

Best regards,

Jack.

Dana Tate from LOS ANGELES on February 19, 2019:

Thanks Jack,

Actually the testimony is old, about eight years old but I appreciate your well wishes. I plan to read more of your article's. See you soon.

Jack Jenn (author) from Nelson Bay NSW Australia. on February 19, 2019:

Hi Dana,

Thank you so much for reading this article and I'm guessing you found this article by clicking on my name in the response to your article. I would very much appreciate it if you were to read my other articles (6 more.) if and when you get a chance. I would leave the END OF DAYS article 'til last as it's quite long.

I like your thoughts on many layers to the Bible - so true.

Sorry to hear of your friend and your own loss of employment, I hope things will improve for you, just keep keeping on, the sun will shine again tomorrow.

You've taught me a very good lesson (as well as yourself) to only listen to others advice if it agrees with what you have heard given to you by the Spirit as a result of prayer. You're certainly not alone in what you've done - I've also fallen victim to listening to others when I should have trusted His Spirit, and countless others could say so as well.

We all need the 'seasoning' you mention and unfortunately, we all fall to disobedience but if we get up after being knocked down, apply some 'salve to the wound' and continue - that is the most important thing. And we all sin in some form every day, so confession is also daily.

Seeing that you've told me a story, which I enjoyed, I shall reciprocate. Back in 2012, I was trying to make some sense of Revelation concerning the end times and talking to my wife about it, she said, you're retired now so why don't you study it and write it up so that we can pass it on to our kids. That resulted in my END OF DAYS article (the others are excerpts from that article) and of course a lot of that information came from what others had written and it didn't take long to determine fact from fiction by cross reference with my Bible - and then I found ichthys.com.

This man, who is a countryman of yours has taught me so much and I promise you Dana, he will do the same for you. Save it to favourites, you will be going back to it many, many times. His work is yet unfinished, he still has a few more articles to complete and what I like about him is he doesn't try to conform scripture to his doctrine, he conforms his doctrine to scripture and he lets scripture do the talking.

Because his articles are very lengthy I always encourage people to start reading in the 'Peter's Epistle Series' as they're not overly long before beginning in his main stream articles.

Again Dana, thank you for reading.

Best regards,

Jack.

Dana Tate from LOS ANGELES on February 19, 2019:

Everything you've said in this article is so true. I have experienced the Spirit in so many ways. I went from hearing a voice, to understanding my thoughts, to listening to the wisdom that came out of the mouths of others. Also, through the bible, where the Spirit would take a scripture that I happen to be meditating on, and give me a deeper understanding than I was taught. That's when I began to understand there's many layers to the bible, and this is why we are encouraged to read and meditate on it in order to get the seasoning that feeds the spirit to make it strong.

I had a coworker that I worked with and we were very good friends. We both got laid off from our job but continued to talk everyday. Well, I began to get this urging in my spirit to move out of my apartment that I was paying with my unemployment. I understood the urging of the spirit and decided I would move. I went to breakfast with my friend and told her about my decision. She said. " Oh, no, you better not move, God is gonna take care of you." So I heeded her voice and decided she was right.

When I got home before I stuck my key in the door my blood ran cold. I was being chastened in my spirit very severely. It was so severe, I couldn't make out any of the words except for the last sentence which said. "You can always tell a tree by the fruit that it bares!' At the end of that month, I received a letter from unemployment informing me the extended unemployment program was coming to an end and, my last check would be cut by half.

If I had listened to the Spirit, I would have had money in my pocket when I had to vacate my apartment. Because I didn't I left with no money and still actually owing the owner rent. I wish I could say I listened to the Spirit after that. Unfortunately, I could give you a list of testimonies of how I suffered due to my disobedience. When I began to take a closer look at the woman whom I considered a confidante, I realized she bore no fruit. (Those who abide in the Vine will bare fruit.)

You're right the Spirit gives you a warning before something happens and it's not up to us to question only obey. If you don't you will eat the fruit of your own way.

Love the article and I will definitely be back to read more.

God bless.

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