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Truth About Nicene/Athanasian Creed God-Concept

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The Unknown God

Paul, hiding in Athens, was roused by the Greeks to teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ, along with his compatriots. While there, waiting for his associates to arrive from Berea, he noticed tributes to all of the gods of Olympus.

One god honored conveyed with it the inane thinking of men--ignorance shrouded in propriety regarding spiritual or religious matters. There, among the many tributes to gods rested a tribute to the "unknown" god--just in case faith-followers within Greek culture forgot or failed to recognize a god because it was not conjured by humans in physical form.

When brought before the thinkers and philosophers of the city, Paul admonished them of their folly. Paul called them to repentance by saying,

For in him [God] we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent. Acts 17:28-30

Paul instructing the philosophers in Athens

Paul instructing the philosophers in Athens

Elder Quentin L. Cook, an apostle of Jesus Christ and representative of The Church of Jesus Christ, spoke of the result of Paul's instruction:

When the Apostle Paul visited Athens, he tried to teach of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Of this effort we read in Acts, “For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.” When the crowd realized the simple religious nature of Paul’s message, which was not new, they rejected it [1]

Image of God

Paul told the Athenians that humans are the offspring of God through Adam and Eve. We are children of a particular parentage spiritually. If Adam and Eve are created in the image of God, then God must have an image.

Jesus Christ prayed with His disciples near Him a powerful prayer in John chapter 17. The entire chapter is worthy to read and digest because Christ makes it clear God the Father is a distinct individual apart from Him, who sent Jesus from His presence as a Savior to the world. He also prayed for His apostles to be one with Him as He and the Father are one. Since the Savior and first apostles did not morph into an entity of 15 consciousnesses (12 apostles and 3 members of the Godhead--Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), It is safe to assume Jesus meant for them to unite in purpose.

Reading the heartfelt prayer Jesus prayed for them makes reason itself stare--to think that Jesus spoke to Himself! Why would He deceive His people by doing that? He did not.

Unification of the Empire

Some people aspiring to unite the Roman empire, about three centuries after Christ, found ways to make God mysterious, obscure, or hidden. They did this so more people would easily accept Him. Give God no parts, they say. Give Him no passion, they added. Make Him a "thing" that is mysterious and wondrous, they preached. What better way to keep the masses together in faith based on ignorance of the thing that they worshiped? What a great way to unite an empire teaming with various religious ideologies than convert the masses to a religion that accommodated their proclivity to worship multiple gods?

The Hebrew God is too familiar. He is too easy to approach and too defined and personable. The people will not like the familiarity. Make Him unknowable, like the great unknown god in Athens.

All of this is in opposition to what Christ prayed for His disciples. It is in opposition to what Paul taught of God and Christ!

Jesus Christ taught that everlasting life was to KNOW the true God and His son whom He has sent. The creed states that He is unknowable. Somebody is lying here and it is not Jesus Christ.

— Rodric Anthony Johnson

The Creeds

In an address to the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jeffrey R. Holland provided perspective on the Nicene Creed and its LACK of Biblical origin:

In the year A.D. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to address—among other things—the growing issue of God’s alleged “trinity in unity.”

What emerged from the heated contentions of churchmen, philosophers, and ecclesiastical dignitaries came to be known (after another 125 years and three more major councils) as the Nicene Creed, with later reformulations such as the Athanasian Creed.

These various evolutions and iterations of creeds—and others to come over the centuries—declared the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost to be abstract, absolute, transcendent, immanent, consubstantial, coeternal, and unknowable, without body, parts, or passions and dwelling outside space and time.

In such creeds all three members are separate persons, but they are a single being, the oft-note