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Paranormal or Demonic Experiences - On Being an Empath, and Concerning Warding Off Spirits

Paranormal Experiences

Now this story actually starts in 1974, on my date of birth. Somewhere in my teenage years though, I just started having the odd unexplained experience. I've had strange problems for a while, and still have them today. It is evidence that I can't really talk about some things, and this is proved by the exceedingly attractive young female mental health workers that paid me a visit just two days ago.

That's right - and lets not forget the two armed men with metal badges pinned to their shirts that escorted them here either.

Hell, I'd actually say or do lots of strange things if I could only get the friendlier of the two to start dropping by for visits - the women, that is. . .

But fuck it, right? This is my world - and I'll tell it just as it happened. That's just what I do, and if I occasionally get carted off to the state hospital, as I did in 2005, then it's all shits and giggles in the end, and another web page story that will appear as soon as the author is free again.

Of course here in rural Texas - anyone who "hears voices," or "sees things" is most likely to be considered to be under the influence of an intoxicant of some kind, or just extremely mentally ill. You can count me down for "mentally ill" if you like, as I had strange and unmentionable experiences long before I'd ever used any sort of illegal substance.

In any case, I'd like you to take a minute to read about one of several Demon possession stories that I could tell - but this is the only one published, and it's on Info Barrel, and is linked below.

. . .and NO, I couldn't care less if you believe any of this, or anything discussed in the link below.

A Common Shadow Creature


The Occult

I don't know anything about the occult. I've always been halfway interested in learning about some of it, but I've also been self aware enough to decide that it just wasn't a good idea for me to investigate it too thoroughly. I am, however, completely unable to avoid the occult. Occult problems just find me. I do not look for them.

Several months ago a friend came over, looked through my books, and asked if If I had any books about witchcraft. I told her that I didn't. She came over again a few weeks later, and without telling me about it - she left a book about witchcraft. No, I've not read the book.

About a month ago another friend came over and was in a tremendous state of distress. He insisted that people in my hometown were praying to demons, and having demons do "this and that," and that there was nothing that I could do about it, and that all was hopeless.

Less than a week ago a friend told me that she was fairly sure that I am what is often referred to as an Empath. As I understand it, the term Empath refers to someone that literally receives stimuli from external forces that are not always flesh and blood.

Yes - I just threw all of modern science out the window, with the exception, of course, of all the possibilities and questions that arise from the sub atomic realm of physics, and the properties therein, that also lie in the more common realms. It's not that I don't like science - it's that I hold a lot of contempt for those who live sterile lives, and think that their five senses have the capability to measure and determine the extent of all reality. We've a limitless universe - and infinity is completely incongruous with human understanding. I've nothing but scorn to offer those who follow the shallow nonsense of the new atheist movement. I'd actually prefer the witches for company, they at least, do have some spirituality and some awe to enjoy.

Evil Spirits


The Dangers of Being "Mentally Ill"

Warding Off Malevolent Disembodied Spirits.

Warding Off Evil Spirits

So the question, naturally, came up - how does one ward off evil spirits? Of course what I've always used with great affect is one of the following Christian things, the Lord's Prayer, or the Twenty Third Psalm.

You know, I was raised on of of those hard core and often idiotic fundamentalist churches that teaches that the world was created in six days. . . .cause "God said so." Well, anyone with time to think more than half a second about anything can see right through that bullshit - most folks, however, should be able to see an allegory when they read one. It's just a damned shame, in my no so humble opinion, that literary devices and reading comprehension aren't so valued in Rockefeller affected America; but whatever.

No, there is no magical bath that can permanently guarantee someone a trip to harps and clouds land. I sort of wonder what other sort of "magick" those folks believe in, and just where in the cracker jack box is the super secret Bible decoder pen found? Basically, if you are going to a church where the fear of sex is preached because it might lead to dancing, and that magical dips in water reserve eternal spots in Jesus land is the defining principle. I advise you stop going to that congregation - they can't read.

Back to the WARDING thing:

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From talking to folks on the net and from researching things on the net - salt is always a warder off of the evil spirits, and the other major thing used is the herb Sage. Now, what I'd read on the net is that Sage and Pine Needles should be burned in your home to ward off evil spirits. But I asked another Lady friend (yes, I love my homeboys - but I'll always prefer women) told me that that could be correct; but that according to a book that I do own and have read - that the Native Americans, and especially the Sioux, used Sage and Cedar to burn together to ward off evil spirits, and to otherwise purify their environment, and especially before turning in for the night.



The Warding

And so as it happened the female friend who'd left me the book on witchcraft a few months ago came back over for a visit. We were talking about this and about that, and the discussion came up about the evil spirits, the sage, the cedar, the pine needles, and even the salt. All this time my ten thousand mp3 strong media player, forever on random, played in the background.

I asked her what she knew about the warding off of spirits, and she asked,

Do you want me to cast the demons out of your trailer?

Well, hell to the yes, I thought ,

Go for it, please!

. . . Is what I told her, and so she then asked if I had any olive oil, and of course I did and I do, and so she got the olive oil out, and proceeded to smear some above each and every door and window in my tiny travel trailer home. When she was done with that, she came to me, and I'm a bit of a chatter box and she told me to be quite. I did what I was asked. At this very moment in that point in time she smeared some olive oil on my forehead, and The Grateful Dead tune Friend Of The Devil just so happened to be playing on my computer. With her finger and some oil on my forehead, she prayed. The power suddenly went out not just in my trailer, but in the entire area.

She'd cast out every demon on the block.

Friend Of The Devil.

© 2011 Wesman Todd Shaw


no name on June 10, 2020:

it's not about warding. it's about healing.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on January 30, 2020:

You absolutely know a lot more about the occult and whatever sort of subject the classifications of, and faults/features, and other sorts of knowledge would be concerning empaths.

I'd only just heard that word the first time, just prior to publishing this bit of storytelling. That was at least 5 years ago, and I'm sure the only thing I know about empaths is that should such classifications of persons be valid enough for serious discussion, then I'm not one of them.

I'm just bi-polar. Which I would assume wasn't as fashionable at the time, or now, and likely never.

I'm not even sure what stories are all on this page. I've not edited the writing any since publication, I'd guess. Anyway, I've had one experience which the RCC and every atheist in the world could tell me was not demonic, and I'd still know what I encountered.

Was a 17 year old homeless boy. He certainly was not a demon, and seemed to have too many troubles which he didn't earn for himself for him to have any sort of bad habits.

He'd was living at the drug rehab and Christian ministry I was living at. He was technically too young to even be there, and he wasn't a drug addict, he was just homeless.

So he stayed with us druggies and bible thumbing sorts for a while. When he would be asleep at night - the voices coming from his mouth were not human.

Not human sounds. Not any human language. This kid didn't speak anything but redneck English. It was literally like the demon language stuff which has been used in popular television shows where someone is demon possessed. I'm thinking of American Horror Story Assylum.

Strange thing was, I was on heavy psych meds at the time, and nothing short of people shaking me and yelling could wake me up at night. But I'd wake up before this kid would start the demon talking.

Happened twice. I laid in the bed, we were two bunkbeds to a bedroom there, the kid was on the other bed -I was totally freaking terrified of those voices in the night. I would just lay there and pray until it stopped.

I never told the kid. I'm not sure I told anyone about that at all until years later. It's just not cool to tell a homeless teen they manifest a demon in the night. :/

Robert-M on January 28, 2020:



Regarding purifying an environment: I don't think it matters all that much what concoction you choose to use. If I remember the stuff I read long, long ago, the black arts focus on the what is and create an 'intent' to accomplish the desired end. The talisman to be used is selected based on sympathetic associations created by the practitioner that links the two in their mind. Then it's a matter of activating the talisman.


Stands to reason the same applies to purifying an environment. Olive oil or Crisco, if the latter is all you have to work with, use that. Just put your mind, your intentions, and your will behind the desire to rid your environment of any and all malefic forces that might be hanging around. Create a ritual that applies to your situation, imbue the ritual with a pure intent, and perform an action that signifies the completion of the ritual and your acceptance of the desired end.


As for the empath thing, I don't believe empaths are necessarily any more susceptible to demonic influences than anyone else. I've had two demonic experiences in my life. The first was during a conversation with an individual who appeared normal but with a mind that worked in a manner that is difficult to describe. He discussed events with a focus on minutia that made it very difficult to follow what he was saying. In the midst of that encounter I witnessed his mental state shift gears all of a sudden like. His attention turned to me with a very strong, clear focus on what was being said. The words revealed an intent seeking to cause a reaction of fear within me. Something kept me from taking the bait. Instead, what can be described as the spirit of discernment came to me or upon me. In that moment I knew for certain there was another entity manipulating the body of the man standing before me and the entity was not human. I stood there, gazing at the eyes looking back at me and simply refused to yield any part of my being or consciousness to whatever was before me.


The other event happened in the basement of a friend's home one night. We were going to get an early start the next morning so I was spending the in a spare bedroom that was set up in the basement. I was lying on a bed. There were no lights burning but there was a small amount of ambient light present. I became aware of a consciousness that had been observing me for quiet some time from a corner of the room that was in darker shadows. I chose to keep my eyes focused on that corner, and I remember believing at the time that it was important for me to not take my eyes away. There was no spirit of discernment at work; I don't remember being afraid, but it was a very strange experience. It passed and did not recur.


I'm very aware of the nature of the empath experience I live with. I can't say I understand what people who claim to be sensitive to plants and animals in a non-normal sense are talking about. I can't say they are empaths; can't say they aren't. Their experience is different from mine. Their experience may be very real yet of an entirely different nature from mine.


From my experience, the two episodes recounted above had nothing to do with what happens with me when I have an 'empathic' encounter with another person. When it does happen it is a very human event. The only difference for me is the heightened awareness of what the other person is saying or feeling that comes. This awareness stems from a source other than from my conscious, rational mind. I understand more clearly what the other person is saying,; what their experience at that moment is like, and frequently, why. That last part always proves to be the most important part when it comes.


When I talk with the people I work with I don't notice the same thing. Fortunately I've managed to learn to shield myself from much of the 'bleed thru' I experienced as a child. This life would likely be unlivable if that weren't the case.


True empathic sensitivity is not a psychic 'mind reading' or telepathic connection. That's not to say that telepathic connections cannot result in emotional responses in the receiver that mimic or duplicate what's going on at the other end of the connection. Neither am I saying that an empath cannot give themselves over to spiritual forces operating outside themselves.


The bottom line here is that any demonic entities that may exist are not human. They possess neither the cognitive functions nor the physiological makeup of the human nervous system that make true empathic connections possible. Empaths are sensitive to feelings and emotions; demons have neither.

Rebecca from USA on November 03, 2013:

I know it's a bit annoying to post a hub on a hub, but consider reading this...

RowanRiver on July 03, 2013: empath, yep. That is to say, and by whatever means, you "notice" a lot more about what is going on around you than is normal (as in "average," not as in "right").

As for paranormal stuffs, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. Like asking whether or not God actually exists, the question is just a bit beside the point, isn't it? :)

50 Caliber from Arizona on August 14, 2012:

I don't mind tripping else where, mail me the where and I may just drop in,



Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 14, 2012:

Hey thanks, Dusty!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I'll get around to telling stories over here again, the people that run this joint seem to dislike everything that I do unless it has a guitar for a thumbnail, LOL!

50 Caliber from Arizona on August 14, 2012:

Wesman mi Amigo poqueto, this was a great hub and still is, I got your back maybe sometime you'll look over your shoulder and see me standing there, with the power to bring you to the safe side, where you can only loose this life on this plane.....

Peace and Blessings,


Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on November 09, 2011:


This is one of those oddball hubs that I sometimes wonder why I ever even published - but the responses that I've got to it makes me believe that it was well worth my time and effort!

Kelly Kline Burnett from Madison, Wisconsin on November 09, 2011:

Wesman Todd Shaw,

Powerful - very powerful. The forces here on earth, the unseen forces are very powerful but your writing is moving. Very well done - you touched me and reminded me to look for the unseen - we need this reminder. Thank you.

Suzie from Carson City on October 26, 2011:

and Thank you.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on October 26, 2011:


Suzie from Carson City on October 26, 2011:

Strange that you refer to yourself as a "pessimist." I would describe you as quite the contrary. Maybe because I believe a TRUE pessimist throws his hands in the air, scrathes his head and says, "Oh well, that's just the way it goes." YOU, Mr. Wesman Todd Shaw, do just the opposite. You have powerful thoughts and feelings about this world of KNOW it can be better and you share loudly and clearly the songs in your heart. The experience your hubs bring to me is one of reality, wisdom and hope. You have stirred the simmering pot in my soul and turned up the heat so it can a GOOD way. Your hubs have moved me...caused the dormant feelings to WAKE UP. Ain't no PESSIMIST can do that, my friend.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on October 25, 2011:


Well, things are probably going to get uglier for most - but then again, I'm somewhat of a pessimist.

I don't actually think things are going to get worse and worse for ME - but then again I'm not in the same state of mind or being that most persons are in.

Suzie from Carson City on October 25, 2011:

I know what an atheist is and I know about "New Age" Is "new Atheist," a combination of the 2? As for "Materialists," PULL-EEZ, Wes....we'd never had enough time to get into that. I have devoted the majority of my adult life avoiding, ignoring, and refusing to allow that damned demon into my world. Whatever the unadulterated opposite of GREED is, I wish for it to rain upon the world for 40 days and 40 nights..until every ounce is cleansed from the earth.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on October 25, 2011:

Hey fpherj48! I'm finding that mostly persons who doubt such things are "new atheist" or otherwise persons who disbelieve anything that science can not prove.

First of all - that requires faith that humans can even detect everything in the infinite and expanding universe - which is exceedingly arrogant.

I've got lots of "new atheist" or "materialist" friends - can't figure out what all they've got going on in their minds - but mostly it's just fear, I think.

Suzie from Carson City on October 25, 2011:

Wes...There is no reason I can fathom to disbelieve you. I have had several "experiences," and know numerous people who have as well. It is not "crazy," nor is it always something that can be EXPLAINED away or excused as a dream, trick or hallucination. Why there are those who will always need proof and rationalization for unusual, uncommon or strange occurrances, is because they THINK anything of this nature is purely negative and/or evil. This creates fear....creates denial...creates ignorance....creates hatred....creates destruction. Most times, things quite simply & genuinely ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on October 21, 2011:

Hey Thanks! I have some wild ones! More than I can tell on a family website !!!

donate-timeshares on October 21, 2011:

wow that was an interesting hub. i liked reading about your experiences

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on October 08, 2011:

I'm totally lost. I can't think of what TDO means; but I haven't looked at this hub in a while.

I'm certain that I'll feel stupid when I figure it out - I know because I always feel stupid.

Rachel on October 08, 2011:

To the Author, In respect of the TDO. Your entirely to well written to be withheld that right by our big brother, in the name of your good. Here's the trick, when they show up, punch the shit out of them. Instead of the TDO, you go to jail. In jail you have internet access, cable TV, and paper. We've learned through experience in this house.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 07, 2011:

Hey thank you poetvix - yes, I know about the hoppers, there's also something that happens from over exposure to individuals - a "sharing" or "co infection," if you will.

Things I've noticed - but skeered to talk about in polite Texas company! ha!

Yeah, I think atheist are mostly morons, or just going through a bit of a "seeking truth" phase. Been there and done all that - paid a $20 for a t shirt, and burned it when I got home :-D

poetvix from Gone from Texas but still in the south. Surrounded by God's country. on August 07, 2011:

Really interesting hub here, Todd. I find it ironic how in western society what is labeled elsewhere as "from the god's" is labeled insanity or delusional or some other mental health label.

In every society, in every era, man has believed in the other worldly, the mystical, and the spiritual. Our current slant towards the "only what can be scientifically proven is real" attitude does not help us as much as its proponents would have us believe.

Great hub. I can see where it took courage to write this. I applaud you and it.

PS, I might be a little careful about casting out. I think I heard something, somewhere about needing something to cast it into or it just hops... could just be remembering that from some movie though.

Helen Murphy Howell from Fife, Scotland on August 04, 2011:

Hi Wes,

Dusty's right. It would be a very good idea to use Psalm 91 - read it a few times over the next couple of days or so.

Dusty on August 04, 2011:

Wesman, burn that thing, throw the Psalms 91 at the flame and take the ashes and scatter them to the wind somewhere else, where the whole of it will be gone from you and your presence or just burn them elsewhere and split. No good can come from that thing and I agree that there is no telling how and who it was used by and the level of evil in the hands that did. dust

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 04, 2011:

I think the first rule of satanism is that you can never trust a satanist to ever tell the truth about anything - especially in "introduction level" satanism - like Anton's nonsense.

All he was doing was easing folks into that hardcore shit.

I've got that book out now - there's no front or back cover on it now. It was left here with no front cover, I guess I must have ripped the back cover off.

Helen Murphy Howell from Fife, Scotland on August 04, 2011:

I think you're right about satanism-aetheism. If it was just aetheism there wouldn't be any need for rituals etc. You could simply meditate on any material wants/power you need. But this shit goes way beyond that. In addition if it is only aetheism then I don't understand all the crap that goes on about abusing holy pictures and hanging crosses and pentagrams upside down and so on. These are all deliberate actions to defile what many people hold sacred and to open up doorways to all manner of negativity.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 04, 2011:

I think I will do that, and today. I've definitely got some house cleaning to do - I certainly don't have any time to devote to satanism.

What's half way sad is that most people think that even The Anton LaVey satanism is really just atheism. . . I'm afraid that they've not caught on yet. At least the theistic satanist are honest about that part.

Helen Murphy Howell from Fife, Scotland on August 04, 2011:

Hi Wes,

Have had a good look at the book - looks more like satanism than anything else and very sensationalist. This says one of two things to me - firstly, it's bullshit (ie when it says that black magic is misunderstood) secondly and unfortunately it is dangerous bullshit.

I agree also with Misbehaved Woman it can always be hard to tell not so much how many hands it has been through but whose hands in particular - it has probably been used by quite a few misguided nutters in its time and they'll probably have left a lot of negativity with it. Also if the book was near to where any kind of ritual was performed then it is possible to have a very negative spiritual attachment to it. So in a word - burn the book, cleanse your space and start to breath easy.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 03, 2011:

Maybe the "Devil Red" color should tell people something?

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 03, 2011:

I think I'll incur the Law Of Burning on it. Maybe I'll throw it outside for the evening, and burn it in the morning. What do you think?

MisBehaved Woman from Lost Causes, NM on August 03, 2011:

Ditch that book. I agree with Seeker and the description plainly says it explores 'black magick'. Any *witch* who claims to dabble in black arts is not a true Witch because to do so violates the creed of Harm None as well as incurs great risk of having the Law of Three come back and slam you into the ground.

It's junk and who knows how many hands it passed through before it got to you?

Evelyn Anne on August 03, 2011:

Some wise person has said, "All that is behind us and All that is before us, is nothing compared to All that is Within Us". I believe this is a truth.

Each of us has so much more potential than we use. So many never think about or reckon with the spiritual part of themselves because they rush hurriedly through life without giving a thought to more than who they are, what they want, and what they have. We are indeed much more than that. It is important to slow down, meditate, think deeply, and know oneself from the inside out. No other person can know your thoughts or motivations. You alone know the private, personal YOU.

Keep your heart seeking good, truth, and love. There is hope for the rest of us but we do need input from those who know more and can help us along the way.

Keep growing, thinking, and writing!

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 03, 2011:

Yeah Dusty. I still ain't even looked for that book. I'm not exactly Lazy, but I guess I get irritated going through my books. I just ain't read anything in a while.

I don't know if reading that thing might let me see things going on that maybe I need to know about, or if it's just garbage. I do intend to set it on fire though if I find it and decide that it's creepy.

50 Caliber from Arizona on August 03, 2011:

Wesman, I'm not wanting to be argumentative but from my understanding Witch or Wicca, dabbling in the dead as a seer good or bad is a biblical no, dust.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 03, 2011:

Hey Seeker Seven! Here's the book here:

Helen Murphy Howell from Fife, Scotland on August 03, 2011:

Hi Wes, just as a point of curiosity - is the book you have actually witchcraft or Wicca? There can be a major difference. If the book is Wicca then the book is not the problem although it's always better to have a tutor if starting any spiritual journey. If it's witchcraft then it's probably better to get rid of it. Firstly because the rituals might be very powerful, secondly it might be left-hand path stuff or containing rituals that could lead to left hand path if not followed properly. Wicca is always of 'the light' and is not harmful to anyone.

As to the psychic vampires - I don't think that it's you who are finding them, it's probably 'them' that's finding you due to your unique energies. If any of them come near imagine a white light surrounding you to reinforce your aura and no matter how close they get you'll be fine.

MisBehaved Woman from Lost Causes, NM on August 02, 2011:

Sorry it took me so long to get over here to read this & comment. Very, very well done, my friend. We talked about this emails to the point where I don't know what else I could really add here other than more praise for your excellent writing!

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 02, 2011:

Thank you very much, Sueswan! Yes - I totally disagree with so many "mental health" labels being pinned on persons who don't know where or how to get the help or friends that the actually need.

I don't know for sure how to get some of the things that I think that I need either.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 02, 2011:

Hey Seeker7, I know just what you mean by "psychic vampires," I'm afraid. My problem is finding people to associate with in real time that aren't that type.

From all of this I've about made two decisions: One - find that witch craft book and burn it, and Two - memorize the 91st Psalm!

Sueswan on August 01, 2011:

Hi Wes,

Society is too quick to label people. What is normal anyway?

I haven't had your experiences but that doesn't make yours any less real.

Sending you lots of healing white light.

Helen Murphy Howell from Fife, Scotland on August 01, 2011:

Hi Wes,

I'm like you and Calibre in having to carry out cleansing on occasions just due to work. Working in the care field you can pick up quite a number of nasty energies - some call them psychic vampires - that can eat away at your energy levels and affect your moods.

Anyway, When cleansing I basically do the following - have a small table with two candles - any size will do and I have room for burning off the joss/incense. I walk round the room clock-wise and basically ask for the space to be cleaned. You can use your own words, I tend to use 'I cleanse this space in light and love' and at the same time I walk around with the joss/incense so that the smoke cleanses the room. I then repeat the exercise and create a circle of salt by throwing a very small amount about every foot or so - again creating a circle. Make sure you throw the salt into the corners as well - this is where nasties tend to hide. As you walk round imagine white spiritual light coming into your space and into every corner and lighting it up - it doesn't matter if this image is not strong, it's the intent that counts.

I then leave the joss/incense and the candles to burn off - these are a symbol of continued higher spiritual light present in the room. It also helps if the room/space you are cleansing has been tidied up and dusted before hand - but it's not essential. Some also recommend having a bath or shower before cleansing but I have never found this necessary, although if folks are a bit anxious it can also help to relax them. Hope this helps.

Ps Calibre is right about 91 being very powerful - you could definitely use this or the 23rd while cleansing - either reading it or from memory. I have used both, reading them quietly after I have cleansed. I'm not a Catholic now but was brought up one but I've met a few priests working as a nurse and became good friends with them. It was one really good priest who had an interest in spiritual things that told me to use psalm 91 whenever I felt I was in need/danger/being harrassed. This psalm you can just say at any time anywhere - you don't need cleansing for it to work. Also if you find some of the older translations of this psalm a bit hard to follow there are more modern ones - I think the King James Bible has a very straight forward one and I like this best myself. Again, hope all this helps.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 01, 2011:

I think you and "Seek n' Find" are convincing me, along with Claire - to find and burn my witchcraft book that I didn't want, never asked for - but still have around here somewhere just the same.

50 Caliber from Arizona on August 01, 2011:

A sin nonetheless and the end of Saul and his armor carrier and the battle as well, all I need to know about staying clear of inviting wrath openly, I flee like a little girl from the possibilities of a wicked thing that might come my way and ????? next

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 01, 2011:

Yes - The witch of Endor!

Lots of debate as to whether the witch actually contacted Samuel, or if it was a demonic spirit/impersonation or something.

50 Caliber from Arizona on August 01, 2011:

There is a little story between the 1st and second Samuels in the bible about good old King Saul consulting a seer instead of our God and it ends badly for the once anointed king shortly after, it is two books of many lessons and dabbling in the occult is one of them. I think I have the books right, dust

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 01, 2011:

Hey Thank You. I'm probably not going to read that book anyway. It even has the cover torn off of it. I know it's in here somewhere, but I'm not sure where I put it. I might throw it away simply for it taking up space, and because I can't think of any good that it could do for me or anyone else.

Jenna Ditsch from Illinois on August 01, 2011:

Objects can actually have evil spirits attached to them as well so it may be a good idea to get that witchcraft book out of your home...just an FYI. A friend of mine who is a missionary went to Africa and took home a relic. It happened to have been made by a witch. He didn't use if for spells or anything...he didn't even know it has evil attached to it. But people in his house kept getting sick. Somebody finally had an insight that there was an object in the house...after he got rid of the mask...sickness gone. I have another friend who can see in the spirit realm really clearly...and if you have an object in your house that is an open door...he can just walk in and say, "Hey, you have such and such in you have a ____?" Let me know what you think of Furious seriously has rocked the world of SOOO many people. Be blessed and I loose Psalm 91 over you, covenant of Divine Protection.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on August 01, 2011:

Naw, no interest, Claire - but I do have a book around here. . . .somewhere. It's pretty cheerful in here at the moment !! :=D

Claire Evans on August 01, 2011:

I find this rather unsettling, Todd. I watched an episode of the series, "A Haunting" whereby a man took out a book on witchcraft and got severely possessed because he cast all sorts of spells. He tried to get a Wiccan priest to help him purge him of the demons yet that failed miserably. Only the power of Jesus Christ exorcised him. And remember, Jesus is called the salt of the earth.

If you are starting to take an interest in witchcraft, I implore you to leave it alone! You are asking for trouble otherwise.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 31, 2011:

" It's like they thought it was only real when Jesus walked the Earth." ---

Yep, and if you see or hear anything strange nowadays. . .some of those same folks think you are "mentally ill."

At least that's what happens in my instances.

Yeah- I've had the clean house and just mucked it up a few times. Maybe someday I'll keep it a bit cleaner.

Furious Love, huh? Never heard of it - I might give that a try!

Thank you!!

Jenna Ditsch from Illinois on July 31, 2011:

Thank for writing and for your honesty. I know the spirit realm is real! I've seen, heard, and felt things myself. I've experienced the supernatural in the positive--God's presence and angels--and I've also experienced the presence of evil--of demons. Believe it or not (but do!) one of my jobs is that I work as a deliverance minister. I went through some really scary stuff in my early 20s and thought, "This realm is real and I need to find people that know what to do about this!" I was desperate to get the evil spirits to leave--they were tormenting and scaring me. I'd grown up in a church that said that stuff was real, but nobody talked about it. It's like they thought it was only real when Jesus walked the Earth. Anyway, I found a group of Christians that specialized in the supernatural realm and I began to study and learn about the unseen world. I was drastically set free. The demons left. The scary stuff stopped. I had fear that was SOOO strong and depression that was SO severe that I wanted to die. I thought it was me. But when I learned how to deal with the demons all of the sudden I wasn't depressed and anxious and afraid. I thought they were my own thoughts--but no--they were evil. Jesus is the name at which every knee must bow. Sometimes, though, people struggle to stay in their freedom because they keep opening doors and inviting evil spirits by the things they do and the lies they agree with. Agreement is really powerful. We prayed for this one lady who had lots of demons and was very sick. She received a great deal of relief. But then she went home and kept doing the things that were opposite of what God's Word said and she kept agreeing with the whispers of the enemy and demons came back and filled the space again because she did not keep in filled with Holy Spirit. I'd love to tell you more if you are interested or have any questions. This is something I don't often get to talk to people about because it freaks them out. Oh--I have a movie for you to watch! Watch "Furious Love." It is a documentary--it is all about the reality of the evil and darkness that is out there--and it shows how God's fierce love overcomes. There is even this one scene where this girl that used to be a Satanist...she was groomed as a bride for Satan...and was filled with MANY demons...and even met Satan, himself. There is an interview with her and how she was rescued and set free from that--it's a crazy story but cool.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 31, 2011:

WOW! Guess my grandpa did okay - of course he wasn't THERE, but he was a hell of a lot closer to Japan when that stuff went down than Grandma was!

You know - if all the stuff I've heard about depleted uranium is true - then what our current military has done to it's own soldiers and the Middle East will go down in history as worse than what Germany did to Poland, etc.

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 31, 2011:

He died a ripe old age of 82, he said they expected bodies or parts and he said he never saw as much as an eye ball, the target area was vaporized from the implosion and they gave little regard to soldiers vs radiation, he also said he kept his hands off everything while others stuffed their pockets with stuff. His group agreed walk across as ordered and not stop for nothing and that's what he said they did. I wonder about the guys with radioactive stuff in their pockets and packs.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 31, 2011:

Dude, that's an awful job - Nagasaki after the bomb! I hope he got taken good care of for being exposed to THAT!

Hell yeah, Dusty, photograph that stuff!

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 31, 2011:

Cool pic. I've got war relics all over in here, some like a Jap sword from WWII my dad got on one of the island battles, I don't remember which, but after ending one island they didn't come home they got put on a troop carrier and moved to the next, he got all the way to patrolling the great wall of China, after walking "Hot" ground in Nagasaki after the bomb smoked it, imagine all the souls turned loose in a few seconds there! I need to gather the stuff I took off dead bodies and take pictures of them, you just triggered thoughts in my mind about this stuff, most is in my old foot locker now called my war chest. shit!

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 31, 2011:

WOW!!! That's interesting! I do know what you mean though. I ride my bike, and I find all kinds of old stuff in ditches that I keep sometimes. Forks, spoons, knives of all kinds, etc, etc, etc. Probably none of that stuff is exactly ancient or anything. . .but you never really know.

Now you've got me thinking about some stuff here. I've got one item in particular - was a bayonet that belonged to a WWII Japanese officer that met his final times on Guam Island, my grandfather brought it back home, and made a knife out of it. It's a VERY special item to me.

Here's a picture of it from myspace:

I got another ancient Bowie knife too that I don't have a picture of. You're going to have me thinking about just what all I've got in here! Cool stuff, I'd love to wonder around them places that you are talking about. . . .but not meet my maker in any of them!

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 31, 2011:

Wesman, I've the 23rd memorized and working on 91 as like you I'm exposed to minor [if you can consider any minor] things while 300 feet down and farther in old mines out here, I suspect a few met their doom while scratching out tunnel by hand some over a hundred years back. I'm a bit leery of items I find that were someones personal belonging, I don't bring those things in the house, I leave them out side on a wooden table telling them to leave me alone in case there is an attachment to them of some type. It's why I don't fool with old west burial sites as well, be they wagon train or ghost town, I want no part of them.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 31, 2011:

Hey Dusty - I might ought to just make myself memorize that thing then! I'm forever being exposed to minor sorts of that ilk - or at least people that are being herded in that direction, if you know what I mean.

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 31, 2011:

Wesman, seeker relates to the Psalms 91 it is indeed a powerful scripture perhaps more than the 23rd. I was introduced to 91 by an empath in speaking about self preservation from the evil that lurks with in people like Charlie Manson or Jim Jones, dust

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 30, 2011:

Hey Spirit Whisperer! Thank you VERY much. I can't get over how people think that we can measure and verify everything that there is with the five human senses. That just seems really arrogant to me. It's about like thinking that the Earth is the center of the universe.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 30, 2011:

Hey Thanks, Dusty - I need to read some A.M. Werner. I think I'll head over there now. I've still got to read all comments after your first one here too though.

Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on July 30, 2011:

Hey Thank you Chris, I always hear some really outstanding scientific explanations for most everything - but I'm never so certain that that doesn't mean that there isn't also something in the "spiritual realms" behind a thing as well.

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 30, 2011:

Wesman, I don't think this is limited to humans, I believe [as the asp in the garden] animals are effected as well, being living, breathing, spirited as all, though maybe at a different intelligence level. I have a dog I've been watching for a year and I originally thought it was because you bumped her awake from a sleep with close contact, now she is acting like a 17 year old I knew, she jumps up runs 6 or 8 feet and attacks another dog and runs back to where she was falls down and is instantly back to all appearances of sleep. I don't think she even knows she did it. It is not vicious it's more a jump and push with an aggressive growl, and she is a most fun peaceable dog during all activities of play. The 17 year old kid was different, he jumped up from a cot while out on hunting or camping and would maul somebody then return right to his cot and back to sleep. I punched him in the eye one night as he came at me [mainly because he didn't believe us when we told him about it] to wake him up, but it didn't phase him he just returned to his cot and went back to the same appearance of sleep. Only woke up with a bruised eye socket and the white of his eye was blood red where a vein ruptured. He didn't feel it and didn't know who hit him. A trip to be sure, dust

Xavier Nathan from Isle of Man on July 30, 2011:

I thoroughly enjoyed the hub and your style of writing makes it all the more interesting. There is an awful lot more to us and the world we live in than what we perceive through our five senses and that is for sure. I am looking forward to reading more of your hubs. Thank you.

50 Caliber from Arizona on July 30, 2011:

Wesman, little bro', a great read, I read the info-barrel as well. As per earlier discussion, do I believe you, yes, adamantly, why, 'cuz you told me. Scared is a condition of too soon or too much too late.

I read AM Werner's just published prior to this and feel it was in good order to bring out some thoughtfulness on these issues and the team on which we play, dust

Christopher Antony Meade from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom on July 29, 2011:

I really got that Wesman. As someone who has had some experience of the paranormal, over the years, I can assure anyone that something is happening in our world.

The problem is, what exactly?

I read your "info barrel" article. Quite scary that, but undoubtedly true.

Stay safe.


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