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It's Not Too Hard for God to Save an Atheist

Attending bible school when only 17, the author has a lifelong interest in the bible and how it applies to modern humanity.

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Drowning?

An atheist fell into the ocean, and quickly sinking over his head, he felt now he had nothing to lose; "God, if you're real then save me!" he cried.

Suddenly he heard a whisper; "I can't save you if you don't believe", so he gasped and choked awhile before replying. "Ok, God, I believe in you..." then a bright light came on, and he was walking through the pearly gates. He was extremely confused. "why am I here, he asked?"

Whereas, apostle Peter now answered him. "you asked to be saved; If you only wanted rescue from drowning, you should have asked for that!".

The man now said, "well, I believe now; I'm not an atheist any longer, but would you please ask God to put me back down there? I wasn't ready to leave earth yet!" And that's when Peter stepped aside and God spoke to him. "No, if I sent you back, you would find a reason again to deny my existence".

"Well God, he replied, It's not fair that I drowned to get here!" And so again, God very kindly and mercifully replied, "My son, If I hadn't let you drown, you never would have made it in, and I would have had to listen to your desperate cries in hell for all of eternity."

No longer did the former atheist ask for "fair". He saw this was serious; he then began to see the beauties of heaven, he despised who he used to be, and now he is helping Peter and the thief who was saved on the cross, together welcoming new believers into the kingdom.

I really believe there are more that won't make it unless they are caught in a life-threatening dilemma. Are you one? God is standing by .. call on him today!

How far will you go?

How far will you go?

Things to Consider for Eternity's Sake

Some people have illusions of evil as well as of good, don't they?

But to believe that God knows best, is to believe that though he knows all things, he still gives us free agency and the power to choose between death and life.

In Christianity there is a diagram,

-first line: Life and Death,

-Whereas the natural mind of course considers living and then dying;

-second line X

-third line, Death and Life,

-Yet God/Spiritual declares first death and then life.

(John 11:25) Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life. He that believes in me, though he may die, yet shall he live!

There is no other belief that shows you how to change from a natural state to a spiritual existence through such a supernatural ransom and by a love so great that offers complete transformation through simple faith and declaration that once you choose Jesus, he becomes the scapegoat and binds you to his death, burial and resurrection and hence, eternal life.

Whereas other attempts at supernatural transformation depend on what you do as a person, and are totally inadequate..

So if there isn't a perfect sacrifice, savior, that can meet the demands of the judgement of death dooming you to Sheol/Hell, -then earth, man and religion have no other hope.

This is based on that Adam and Eve had eternal life, but were severed from it and from their bright nature and fellowship with God by both sin (breaking God's law's) and human choice,

Now God through his Son offered us a way back into his presence. there is no prophet with power to save in himself except the one who bore our sins on a cross. And yes, in a moment of desperation, ones heart can be changed.

Always remember that though we are "living", we are doing so under the altered condition of sin and its curse. UNTIL, we meet the glorious gift of Life, and CHOOSE to be made alive unto God.

Alive to sin, dead to God, but dead to sin, Alive to God.

The Atheist in the story simply accepted the terms of salvation and it changed his destination, the same as the thief on the cross. In a second; in the time it took for Him to say "Lord Save me!" Jesus declared, "You will be with me this day in Paradise."

Some refer to one thief as the "bad" one and the other as the "good" one. Neither is true. Neither one had any right to claim the title "good". But the difference was the attitude of the one who mocked the Lord in saying "Cast yourself down", whereas the other one, even if he didn't realize Jesus was undergoing the supreme test, to deliver all men with "whosoever will"; this man cried "Lord Save Me!"

- There is no other man or prophet who could have done so, no not under any condition. Jesus is the sole giver of eternal life.

Note: If there were no spiritual realm, no redemption, then of course the atheist could say "I will only die and then be no more!"

But once that illusion is shattered; then he must deal with "ok,where am I going now that I am at death's door?"

the dawn of free agency

the dawn of free agency

Effective Points of Free Agency

1) God has allowed each of us to be a free agent. Call it being a little god or whatever. Its the same world-wide, and yes, you have the same choice as another.
2) As a separate point, we each have the right, privilege and choice to give lordship to who we choose.
3) Individually we don't have right or power to make someone else's choice for them.
4) If God, so eternal and wise, doesn't use his resources to counter-act evil or unbelief in someones life, then you aren't likely to do so even though you are a blessed and silver tongue angel. (I Cor 13.) 5) -I believe that someone who has read the bible even 10 times has so much word in them, that the power of Gods word alone is able to save, yet only by it convincing man of his need for salvation. I believe THE WORD OF GOD IS ALIVE. It is not negligible or dis-missable.
5) That is why the individual mental/heart/human struggle occurs and why an atheist has to totally empty themselves of conscious knowledge of God in order to have any semblance of peace without him. If my beliefs are true, then this constitutes what we call an "illusion". God however claims that though you descend into hell , he is there. There is no escaping things that are inevitable like death.

6) Whereas the Lord Jesus says that "the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life", there is a universal voice, the voice of God calling mankind back to himself. It's a promise of God that he would have every man/woman every where to repent and be made righteous. His desire is that none should perish. Sometimes a man or a woman spends their entire life listening to the voice of man and seems to never hear the voice of God. This is sad, for if we prayed and sought Gods divine will, HE says " If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me" - there is no exclusion.

7) Though God will send you a messenger, an angel, or a lamb to shed precious blood for our transgression, he will not step on our individual will.

8) Without Adam and Eve and their lost estate, dismissed from the garden of Paradise and from Gods presence, we would not be in such a dire state that we truly need a Savior. Just think, before they sinned, there was no death. " In Adam all die, but in Christ all are made alive". Its truly an allegory based on being lost and upon Gods love for us, offering us redemption and salvation. To dismiss this in entirety leaves one to wonder why someone would die into an unknown of their own making, for truly to ignore Gods existence is to take matters into your own feeble hands. and I'm sure anyone going this route will face the same reality of after-life as everyone else. I'm sure there is no selective suites other than offered in the parable of the rich man in hell, who cried, "please let me go back and warn them of Gods judgement?" no, no, no, "they will not believe, though one were sent back from hell".


Rich man in Hell crying out for one drop of water.

Rich man in Hell crying out for one drop of water.

LUKE 16:19-31

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receive thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

My Response To An Atheist.

Dear Atheist; except for the complex workings of the soul, the mystery of a conscious within us and how it governs our mind/ heart and life, you might have a valid argument. But just being intelligent and getting an education isn't reason to turn off or harden the inner soul in this way. Just that your intelligence is used to diminish your origin and your accountability shows a "choice" being toward self-fulfillment and limits you to what you can muster up within yourself. But once you recognize their is anything outside of yourself, you give it up again and are only a single unit of a higher design and origin. Fact is, you didn't make yourself, and you can't control your destiny except by daily choices. My life is almost as mixed up as I might read in your personal story, but though you claim you didn't see the hand of God or hear his voice, except to hear him say he wasn't real? This is respectfully, intellectual manipulation, or in other language, "hearing what you want or choose to hear". In just reading and sharing your life story, you describe a miracle and a profound journey of grace beyond imagination, but in your denial of God, its without the joys and rewards that could be. And I respect greatly the hardships you have been through and the physical impairments as well as I respect the strength and desire you've had to survive. But step into grace and let it be known how wonderful is the human spirit and ability to conquer adversity and end up a survivor. I unashamedly beg you to go one step further and say, "Yes Lord, come into my life!" Accept him as who he is, and join yourself to the root of all life that began with Adam and Eve, and with God's love. I unselfishly ask you this so that we can spend eternity in fellowship with brotherhood and sisterhood of all ages who were faithful and true to the instinct and call of our species, the only one with a soul. The only ones who are not desperate, but enlightened. For the entire ages started with a division between light and darkness. This is a basic fundamental of true science. Those who through supposed intelligence claim atheism also seek to bypass or acknowledge this basic pinion. That's why I can never get to that conclusion. I cannot deny the battle between light and darkness, and light always pushes back the darkness. But - something, somewhere, must always energize the light. One thing I am sure of. It is not you, and not me. We are not big enough, but we are connected to a root of life source that is big enough. Always big enough.

(I dedicate this response to hubpage member/ friend, Tess Schlesinger.)

© 2020 Oscar Jones

Comments

Oscar Jones (author) from Monroeville, Alabama on March 28, 2021:

Tessa, except for the complex workings of the soul.

Oscar Jones (author) from Monroeville, Alabama on March 27, 2021:

T, I felt inspired/ motivated to add a subsection to my above article to answer your assertions. thanks for your comments and concern. I take it very seriously. so, instead of pointing out that you make arbitrary judgements, and yes though well founded to us bible blelievers; I want to lay out a reason for you to relax over this. I will make points. If you have objection, then lets do it point by point. I could not leave this as just a comment. Perhaps the hour of reasoning is upon us, for God says, "Choose ye this day whom you will serve". We choose who we obey.

Oscar Jones (author) from Monroeville, Alabama on March 27, 2021:

thank you.. I'm still wondering though if you lose points by continually upgrading an article. I know you lose your origination of article date and I sometimes post that as a foot note.

Tessa Schlesinger on March 27, 2021:

Oscar, that is so much better. Makes a world of difference. Well done! ;)

May I also suggest that you put sub-titles in because they are used in the metatags, and the bots look for them to classify where your piece ranks on google. Each time you use a subtitle, those are longtail keywords.

Tessa Schlesinger on March 27, 2021:

After 45 years of believing in God, 5 years at a church school, and 10 years as a fundamentalist Christian, I realized there was no god. It was the only thing that explained the sheer madness of religious people, and other things.

Research shows a direct correlation between high intelligence and graduate education and atheism and average intelligence and high neglible education and believing in god.

In addition, atheists have the last percentage of people in jail (very, very few - it's mostly Christians in jail), longer marriages amongst atheists, and more generosity amongst atheists.

So the only reason that religious peope are desperate to believe that atheists are wrong or evil is that it makes them question their own faith.

T on March 27, 2021:

“The 45 years I spent believing in god proved to me beyond doubt that there is no god”

That statement tells a whole lot more about Tess than about God. Someone who believes that believing in god (since it’s not capitalized I guess means “some god”) for 45 years proves there is no god really is unhinged and has an absurdly high opinion of herself, akin to like she is god! But then that is the signature statement of all elitists.

Some negatives can be proven, it depends on the hypothesis but If I claim that God exists, that he is allmighty, that he doesn’t interfere with the material world we are living in (tho’ he could if he wanted to), that he cannot be detected by any modern equipment, that he is invisible and cannot be seen or identified with any of our senses, or by any animals sense, then you cannot prove he doesn’t exist.

Especially not, ridiculously not, by asserting believing in this God is what proves he doesn’t exist. LOL

Oscar Jones (author) from Monroeville, Alabama on March 27, 2021:

Tess) At your suggestion, I did separate into well defined paragraphs, and also brought a response I had left in the comment section up to the body of the article as another module. 3-17-2021

Tessa Schlesinger on March 27, 2021:

Well, I'm a hardcore atheist, and I've been in that foxhole many times. The 45 years I spent believing in god proved to me beyond doubt that there is no god. I was an evangelical Christian for ten of them.

https://tessaschlesinger.medium.com/why-atheism-wo...

For what it's worth, you need to put paragraphs into your story above. Everytime someone speaks, it's a new paragraph.

manatita44 from london on January 18, 2020:

A lot here in your comments. Some thought-provoking pieces.

The Logician from now on on January 18, 2020:

True, that’s the problem with scripture - it is infallible but the interpreters are anything but. :-)

Oscar Jones (author) from Monroeville, Alabama on January 18, 2020:

Thanks T;

I'm not sure any of us can guess how God is going to react; except based on the parables and other illustrations in the word.

The Logician from now on on January 18, 2020:

That is a thought provoking story. Could use some pictures though!

Just kidding.

Here is something to think about.

If Jesus says about those who accept Christ:

“And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.”

and considering God is omniscient, knowing all things, past, present and future wouldn’t it follow that every person on earth who died not accepting Christ would never have accepted Christ if they had lived (like your story implies).

I’m not sure that is correct but it is something to think about as scripturally I haven’t yet been able to deny it.

Kind of explains why some people who should have died are still around.

manatita44 from london on January 18, 2020:

This story is better than the average. Told so well and so meaningful? Did you embellish it? If so more wisdom to you. So many of us are in this quagmire of illusion! Peace.

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