The Ultimate Secret
I firmly believe that Christ had a twin brother, and apparently I am not alone in this thought. Recently, I purchased a book titled, "Secrets from the Lost Bible," by Hebrew scholar Kenneth Hanson. Much to my surprise, Kenneth dedicates a whole paragraph to this ancient theory on our Lord Jesus Christ, and his "twin" brother Jude. Ironically for me, his one little paragraph was just another conformation to my theory about Jesus' biological sibling, which would eventually inspired me to write this article about his twin brother Jude.
I have always found it perplexing that we virtually have little to no information on Jesus Christ the man, in retrospect to his legacy. Much of what we know and think of Jesus, truthfully, are nothing more than ideological opinions of long-ago-deceased, Catholic popes who ruled the church hierarchy during the first eight hundred years of Christianity. Not even the all inspiring "Lord's Prayer" has been left to it's original wording. For it was the infamous King Henry the VIII of England, who after the death of his beloved wife Jane, decided to rework the ancient prayer to that of which is now commonly spoken in Protestant churches across the globe. Therefore, I ask you to tell me why DO YOU think that it would be so absurd to wonder if early church elders, plotted, schemed and decided to fabricate their own theories into a mock reality, and change the history of Jesus Christ- to what they wanted it to be?
As many of you very well know, twins are born all the time. In fact there are approximately 100 million twins worldwide! Moreover, why does it seem so implausible for Jesus to have had a twin, and more importantly..., what makes you so certain that he didn't? Is his twin not mention in the Holy Bible..., or is it? Ironically, I am here to tell you that there is evidence to my theory in the bible, and it clearly states that Christ indeed had a twin brother. I invite you to explore these findings for yourself.
Allow me this disclaimer that this is in no way another conspiracy theory too dislodge the findings of the Roman Catholic Church, or any other church for that matter. It's quite the opposite really. You should know that I am a dedicated Christian. I personally attended Sunday school classes on a regular basis during my entire childhood and teen years. I even became a Sunday school teacher in my later twenties.
The Tale of My Passion:
When my first husband passed away from suicide; I had no sense of purpose left in my life. With the great loss of my best friend and no family support too lean on..., Christ alone gave me the will to survive for my nine year son.
For me the bible was a way to escape my life. I took each and very line of a verse and studied it. I acquired volumes of notebooks filled with passing verses, uniquely from all the major religions from around the world. I then would compare them together with the Lord's teachings and Paul's writings. If a passage kept coming back to me, I'd write it down and began too studied the author, the situation, the complete entire context of the verse and study it again..., and again some more. For five years of my life, that was my daily calling. It seems my Christian calling has always been about discovery. It would please me greatly to inspire others to become a biblical investigator for themselves.
Before you say "no" or "this can't be"- take a journey back in time with me, and see it for yourself that Christ did indeed had a twin brother named, Judas (Jude) Thomas. Now before we get started, I want you to know that I personally know and realize what church doctrine has taught us to believe. I am fully aware of what most Protestant churches think, and being Catholic myself, I am also fully aware of that position too.
So what I'm after here is your interpretation of what you discovered on your own. Now please note- I'm not looking to change religion, I'm not even looking to change your beliefs. I don't even think I've stumbled onto something unique. It has all been right there for all of us to interrupt for ourselves. What I am hoping to do is to help you think outside the box, as if you've never been to Church or Sunday school before. I want your true and deepest opinions.
The Marriage Proposal
What if Joseph and Mary were already married?
I strongly feel that Mary and Joseph were already married. Why? The answer is really quite simple. They were Jewish! They both would have stuck to the strict accordance of the ancient Jewish religion. We have to remember here people, that both Mary and Joseph had strong family roots, deeply embedded in the Jewish faith. For example; Joseph was a direct blood relative of King David. Rites of passage such as that, are not dismissed in the Jewish religion (as they might be in the Christian faith) now or ever. Moreover, the Jews were God's sacred people. What I mean by saying that is- God, most certainly would have followed his own written law. Show a time in history that he has never follow his own doctrine, oral tradition, written doctrine or otherwise. God, is not human like us you know. He lives by his ethical code of arms, whereas humans live by the seat of their pants. God already knew that there would be some rejection from his faithful people anyway, by bringing the Savior into the world in this very unconventional manner. Which is another great characteristic of God's, he loves to be unconventional! Moreover, God would not would have put Mary in harms way, or made her go against everything she believed in. Mary would have been stoned to death, it would have been out of Joseph's hands.
The bible also tells us that Jesus had many brothers and sisters. It is and was just peer speculation written by Christian leaders that maybe the other children were Joseph's children by his deceased wife (which there are NO biblical, or ancient historical censuses of). Nor that Christ's brothers and sisters were born after Joseph and Mary got married. I can see were the early church doctrine writers, thought it would be easier to write in that Mary was a virgin, and hence divinely chosen by God. What they forgot to include in their made up story, was creating an accountability of Joseph or Christ's brothers and sisters and this "dead wife" of Joseph's. More importantly is the fact, it doesn't matter how or in what way something grand like this takes place. If GOD touched it- it is still divine! Therefore, there was no need for man's intervention, by adding to God's story. I find it rather ballsy that we did! Who are we to fix a narration of God's, in order to make it more divine, in the first place? And that is exactly what the Council of Nicaea intended to do and did. Think about that.......
If you have ever read the Old testament, you will quickly discover that God was/is stickler about keeping family trees correct and general accountability to details. Another area I think the men who created story didn't account for was that the birth of Christ..., was Divine and Immaculate by it's very essence. The conception that God impregnated her is Divine and Immaculate, by itself alone. Even if Mary wasn't a virgin, she was impregnated by GOD! Now process that thought, while also pondering on the fact that the authors of the birth of Christ didn't consider God's intellect and overall foresight.
If you look to the teachings of the Old Testament, you will find that there aren't many unanswerable questions. Take Noah's ark for as an example of that factual statement. We are given exact details of it's size, how it was buil,t and where it landed. Are we supposed to believe that between the time of the Old Testament to the time of the New Testament that God..., changed? I don't buy it. I think it is safe to say that God is God. The only ones changing its storytelling narratives is mankind. It has been my discovery, throughout this journey that if something is impossible, doesn't make sense, or is off the wall improbable- man has been messing with the text. Take for instance the charming story of the Apostle Paul. Now it wasn't until I was 36 that I discovered that Paul never met Jesus Christ. And...! That story about him on the road to Damascus, where then Saul is blinded and meets the voice of God; the bible clearly tells us he was chasing "Christ followers" (or rather Jewish believers) to capture and bring them to Roman justice. But what our Sunday school teachers, nuns, preachers and priest, failed to tell us was that it was Christ's brother, "James the Just," they were chasing. Just like any source of history, the truth will eventually be brought to light through archaeologically religious study, and the advancement of scientific research.
Though this is still speculation, it is further been revealed by biblical scholars; that a sect of Jewish people, who happened to be followers of Christ's teachings, under the strict supervision of Christ's brother James the Just, were one and the same group of people that provided us with the safely stored collection of the Dead Sea Scrolls! It is historical discoveries like this that should continually reminded us, that the doctrine of God's words is filled with human error and flawed. If it was James' people and Christ followers who stored the sacred text of the Dead Sea Scrolls for us, then why are so many Christian leaders scared to allow their following to study the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Philip, or the Sophia of Jesus Christ? Is it because they talk about spiritual enlightenment?
As Christian I'm okay with the fact that for the first time, all these different communities are coming up with the same plausible answers. The fact that the scientific community, and the religious archaeological community are working in conjunction with many religious scholars uniquely on their own, and are in alliance with each other findings, is incredible! One might say, "It's a modern day miracle!"
So, here's what I say, based from the religious doctrine that both Mary and Joseph lived by; I ardently feel that they were already married.
In fact, I am completely convince now, after reading several verses, that they had already had at least one son of their own making, when Mary got pregnant with Jesus and Jude. That child being James of course.
Why Joseph and Mary
I can see where God would have chosen a family, such as Mary and Joseph's for Jesus to be raised with. They were true God fearing Jews, that descended from the great line of David. They were hard working people. Hardworking faithful followers, who had already faced many of Gods trials and tribulations put in front of them. I can't see God entrusting his most precious possession with unfit, unstable, non-Jewish, unchallenged, individuals. Remember, the reason Christ was brought to earth was to save mankind from its own sins. Man is enormously flawed and God knew/knows it. Hence the forlorn coming of Christ.
Personally, as a mother, I find it quite funny to think that God was going to allow some teenage girl to raise his son. Who was expected to marry a man whom she didn't know, or even respected. God isn't dumb! He needed a strong family unit to support Christ and help him accomplish his mission. He wouldn't thrown together such a dysfunctional family, and cross his fingers that all would be okay. If God couldn't keep Adam and Eve in line, what makes you think he would've kept that dysfunctional mess well kept together. No, God selected Joseph and Mary because they had already proven their "spiritual wealth" as a sound, married couple. It is also my belief based off the biblical teachings of the bible, that the Heavenly Father would have been extremely picky about who he entrusted too care for his son, Jesus. Based off those simple logical assumptions, I believe that Joseph and Mary, were already well established as a strong Jewish unit.
As for the angel visiting Mary and Joseph is all hearsay. Do I believe it happened as the bible said it did?
Sure I do!
God commonly spoke to his true patrons through the voice of Gabriel. So sure..., base on God's own historical actions- I believe it to be true, that an angel did visit "The Thomas family." But I don't think there is any way of knowing what they heard or saw. However yes..., I do believe that angels approached them to let them know what was about to happen to them; and that God had indeed chosen Mary as his chosen one's birth mother. I believe that Mary and Joseph had many dreams of God, and many different visit from his angels. You just don't drop a kid off into someone else's lap- without instructing that person in one way or another. Therefore, yes I believe angels came to the couple many different times. God had to let them know directly what his wants and needs were for them in completing his chosen son's upbringing.
Another case in point, it makes so much more sense to believe that God told Mary and Joseph he needed them to couple as man and wife to bring forth a new life. It is further my belief, that during their coupling God planted his seed inside Mary's womb. But because he loved and cared for Mary, and knew the fate that Christ, Mary and Joseph were to endure, God allowed Mary and Joseph to conceive a child at that same exact moment of conception too. Now when you think about the many different types of twins births there are, isn't this a more realistic story than Mary being a "virgin" and so on? It was there in that moment of love, that Mary and Joseph and God conceived Jesus and Jude.
Now....., I'm not saying that Jesus and Jude were identical twins. I'm saying that they were twins. As with any twin, each one's life is completely different from the next. All twins, even Siamese twins have different personalities and goals. Is it so unthinkable to believe that God took care of two birds with one stone? When you really think about it- the best possible way for God to insure that his son, Jesus Christ would have half a chance- would to have made sure that he'd be surrounded by a large family and (the best defense weapon I can think of) a twin. It is scientifically proven and well known fact that twins are extremely protective and cognitively connected to their brother or sister. Remember too people that the Holy Bible, was written and put together by a select group of men. It's historical doctrine was surmised by a cruel Roman ruler, a council of a 150 men or so, the teaching Pope Clement the first and III. And much of the bible that we know, was doctrine set in motion by Martin Luther and King Henry the VIII. Many Christians, neglect to realize that the core doctrine of the King James Bible was Roman Catholic, and just a translation from Greek and Latin to the English language. They also neglect to realize that it was King Henry the VIII that added to the Commandments and Lord's Prayer. Christ never said, "Amen." Though we see it written everywhere in the bible. Amen is not Aramaic word. Christ spoke Aramaic. In one way or another, the entire force of Christianity has NOT been dictated by Christ himself, it has been dictated by mankind. If it had been dictated by Christ himself, we would have known a long time ago that Christ came from a loving, caring family and that Christ had a twin brother named Jude (Judas).
- "Twin" of Jesus?
In these pages the lore surrounding the apostle in his recently-rediscovered role has been brought together for the first time -- lore that appears in historical records, myths, legends, cultural artifacts, and religious literature.
Clement of Alexandria
—God's truth is to be found in revelation, another portion of it in philosophy. It is the duty of the Christian to neglect neither. Religious science, drawn from this twofold source, is even an element of perfection; the instructed Christian—"the true Gnostic"—is the perfect Christian. He who has risen to this height is far from the disturbance of passion; he is united to God, and in a mysterious sense is one with Him. Such is the line of thought indicated in the work, which is full of digressions.
ς Clement of Alexandria (properly TITUS FLAVIUS CLEMENS , but known in church history by the former designation to distinguish him from Clement of Rome), date of birth unknown; d. about the year 215; an early Greek theologian and head of the catechetical school of Alexandria. Athens is given as the starting-point of his journeying, and was probably his birthplace. He became a convert to the Faith and traveled from place to place in search of higher instruction, attaching himself successively to different masters: to a Greek of Ionia, to another of Magna Graecia, to a third of Coele-Syria, after all of whom he addressed himself in turn to an Egyptian, an Assyrian, ³and a converted Palestinian Jew. At last he met Pantaenus in Alexandria, and in his teaching "found rest". —"Grace," J. Pohle, The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1914 (San Diego, Catholic Answers 2007) This material is Copyright © 2007 Catholic Answers. All rights reserved.
Biblical Text to Support My Belief
- Nelson's NKJV Study Bible-
The Epistle of Jude, Chapter 1:1 reads,
"Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James."
A Bondservant, in the biblical text means; a servant of the Son of God.
Jude was fiercely dedicated to his brother, Jesus Christ. But moreover, he adamantly believed in his brother. When Christ's other disciples questioned him, Judas was Christ's constant supporter and companion. It is as if Jude, short for Judas, knew without a doubt who his brother was. He completely understood the simple complexity of his brother's life and the challenges that faced him, along with the rest of his family. Sometimes the bible depicts Jesus Christ aloof, or cold towards his natural family. But I believe just the opposite. I believe that Christ was supported by his family, and with some of them always. After reading the New Testament as much as I have, there isn't a doubt in my mind that Jude shared a unique kinship with Jesus. He believed more than anyone else that his brother was the true son of God. According to the NKJV Study Bible, there are six different Jude's or Judas' in the bible.
- There are only two possible authors to The Epistle of Jude;
- The Apostle Jude, who scholars think was also Matthew Thaddaeus.
- Jude, brother of James, and half brother to Christ.
- It is my belief, that Christ's brother Jude wrote this letter to Paul after they both had reached a certain pivotal point in the early Christian Church. Of course Paul's doctrine would be more gentile friendly, while Jude's doctrine would of taught an ideology of dualism. His religious doctrine was more Judea-Christian orientated. Anyway, I think Jude wrote this letter to Paul, warning him not to tread so far off the beaten path. It is the most simplistic references and underlying undertones of the author voice, that tells me this is indeed Christ's brother, Judas.
- In the letter, The Epistle of Jude you may notice that this is the first time the narrator is not addressing just followers, but rather, someone of equal status or positioning. Read Jude for yourself and tell me what you think.
The Gospel According to Matthew, the Tax Collector, Chapter 13:55; it reads, "Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And his brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?"
- What more can be said? Clearly Matthew tells us that Christ had at least 4 brothers. It is my personal belief that Christ had 4 brothers, and at least one sister named after their mother, Mary. Her full name was Mary Thomas. Yes, I believe that the surname Thomas, is the oldest surnames in Christianity. I am a firm believer that Joseph's last name was Thomas. But I'll save that for another day. But the bible clearly states that Jesus had brothers and sisters. So far, I've only been able to confirm 1 sister, even though Matthew 13:56 states "sisters" plural, meaning more than 1.
In my New Intentional Version, Holy Bible; Jude Chapter 1:1 reads the same as the New King James Version does. Since it is not a study bible, it offers no opinions as to whom the author was.
My New American Bible, St.Joseph Med. Edition, Jude Chapter 1:1 reads, "Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James, to those who are called, beloved in God the Father and kept safe for Jesus Christ;(2)may mercy, peace, and love be yours in abundance..... While Matthew 13:55 reads the same as the other two above references.
My forth reference material comes from the Essential Gnostic Gospels, Book; Thomas the Contender, pg. 297-299, here is how it reads,
"These are the hidden words that our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, told to his Disciple, Judas Thomas. I, ¹Mathaias noted it all down while walking, listening, or talking with them. Christ said, "Brother Thomas, while you still have time on Earth, pay attention to what I say, and I'll tell you all that you've wondered about in your mind. Now since it'd been said that ²'you are my twin', and true companion, inquire within yourself and discover who you really, really are!"
- Now, Christ tells us he is addressing Judas Thomas. It can't be any other Judas, because Thomas the Contender was supposedly written during Pentecost. Which is the period from the time Christ arose from the dead and ascended into heaven, which was approximately 6 weeks.
- Why we know that the Gospel of Thomas the Contender, was originally written down during the period of Pentecost, is because it tells us so. How? The Gospel of Thomas the Contender clearly states that the author/narrator is Mathaias. Thomas the Contender, is a Gospel written by Mathaias, the 13th disciple or rather, the disciple chosen by the eleven to replace Judas Iscariot. Judas Iscariot was the one who betrayed Jesus Christ, for thirty pieces of silver. Thirty pieces of silver, I might add that he was going to use to pay off debts that he and the disciples had occurred in past villages they had traveled in. Read your bible and we will discuss that scenario later.
- But anyway, Acts 2:23-26 tells us how Matthias(Mathaias) was chosen by the eleven to be the next 12th disciple. And the first few verses of Thomas the Contender, tell us that Mathaias is the original author and narrator.
- We also know that the Gospel is not speaking of Judas Iscariot, because that Judas had already died. No this Gospel clearly states that it is Christ's brother, twin brother- Judas (Jude) Thomas.
- One of my favorite passages is where Jesus tells his twin brother, that his life (Jude's) has more meaning than just being Christ's brother. Mathias tells us that Christ said to Jude,
"Find out in what way you actually exist, and how you came to be. Since you're called my brother it's not right for you to ignorant of your true nature. I know you've accepted that I am the knowledge of the Truth! So while we're together, although you lack understanding, you have in a way, come to see, & (may be termed) as the one who's had a glimpse of his "Real Self!" Now I think this completely sounds like something Christ would say. Christ further tells his brother, Jude(Judas Thomas)-"He who doesn't know his own self, knows virtually nothing. But he who does, has gained knowledge of the profundity of the 'All'. So dear brother Thomas, you've seen what's hard and perplexing for mankind to understand, and what they trip up against, in their spiritual blindness."
- Then Thomas spoke to our Lord,
"Pray, tell me what I ask before your Ascension, so when I learn about these secrets, I may speak about them, as it's clear that it's hard to live the truth before man."
- As the New King James Version states, and the International Holy Bible, along with the New American Catholic Bible states, that Jude considered himself a "bondservant". Jude clearly thought his whole rhyme and reason for being alive, was to serve his twin brother Jesus Christ. I invite all of you to read Thomas the Contender for yourselves, along with the Epistle of Jude, and the Book of Acts.
- After reading all three, you'll certainly see where Judas could indeed be the twin brother of Christ and forever, faithful servant of his brother.
I look forward to your comments and questions. One more thing before I go, I've always noted the words extended forth through the New American Bible, St. Joseph Medium Edition, Jude Chapter 1:1, that read,
"And, kept safe for Jesus Christ."
"And, kept safe for Jesus Christ..." as I stated early, I believe that God chose an established family to minister and raise Jesus from birth. I also stated that what better what to make sure that Christ was kept safe than to be in the fellowship of his brothers, especially a twin brother. Jude and James lived several years after Christ ascended into heaven. As the above Catholic verse states, God kept Christ's brothers safe for him.
My Passion to Know The Truth
Okay a brief history here before I go on. I was always one of those students who wanted to know the whole story. I was never satisfied when someone said to me, "Because the bible says so, that's why!" For the longest time I thought God had blessed me with a handicap. My handicap was that I was never satisfied! It was theory that If you were teaching me about the word of Christ and the Lordship of our Heavenly Father, then you must know all the details. I had a hard time accepting complacent answers, and I don't knows. I always believed and still do, that if you really believed and prayed for understanding that it is given by God to you to relay forward. As I've gotten older, and taught a few classes myself, I realized that I wasn't "handicapped", but gifted enough to see the true word of God. You can have the same gift, if you just pray hard enough for it. One day, I was reading the history of some of the first forefathers of our religion (Clement of Alexandria). I wanted to know the men and women that surrounded themselves in the beginning stages of Christianity, and who embraced the teachings our Lord, Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father. And, that's when I came across Clement of Alexandria. Clement of Alexandria was one our of first sovereign scholars or teachers of Christ's doctrine. Well I came across one of his saying, where he mentions the "Gnostic". Being the curious soul that I am, and firmly believing that God was dictating my information, I set out to Barnes and Noble's bookstore. I remember praying feverishly in the bible studies section. I asked God to show me and lead me the way. He answered. I remember hearing a voice in my mind, saying as clear as day- pick the 1st book you see. Well my head was bent towards the floor, when I opened my eyes I immediately turned right and start walking down the aisle. Like a robot, I turn directly to my right, when clear down the aisle turn right again and back up the aisle next to the one I was praying in. When I stopped, I looked straight up, turned to my right to peer at the bookshelves and selected Alan Jacob's, The Essential Gnostic Gospels.
I didn't know it was Alan Jacob's Book until after I had purchased it. I had always heard that the Gnostic Gospels were "evil". Evil in what way? I don't know, just evil. But the book I selected is not the entire Gnostic Gospel. It only has a few books and gospels contained underneath it's cover. I was quite excited about discovering my purchase, and stumbling upon Clement's saying about the Gnostics. In the field of historical references, It has been the best reference material known.It is amazing how it cross references certain gospels in the bible perfectly. But where certain words might have originally edited by the original translator, these gospels feel untouched. The Gospel are in a more raw form, than that of the bibles Gospels.
The Gospel of Thomas Unveiled
My Study Materials
- For several hundred, better yet close to two thousand years now; we have been living with the truth right under our noses. In order for you to follow along with me, I'm listing below all my study materials used in founding the truth about Christ's twin brother.
- New American Bible, St. Joseph Med.Edition, Catholic Book Publishing Co., 1994
- Holy Bible, New International Version, International Bible Society, 1984
- The Essential Gnostic Gospels, Narrator Alan Jacobs, Watkins Publishing, 2006
- New King James Version, Nelson's NKJV Study Bible, Nelson Bibles, 1982
Let me start by saying that I firmly believe that true understanding has to come from several outside sources. It is when those outside sources intermingle with our sacred texts from our Christian bibles, that I usually say to myself, "We have a winner!" So I think it is safe to say, that most Protestant Christians, believe that the King Jame Version of the bible is "God's Holy Word", well this should please you greatly to see it in the mix. As for you Catholics like me, right along with my King James Bible, I keep my Catholic Bible too. If there are any LDS' reading this- well I have not studied the Book of Mormon, so sorry. I do have a copy of the Book of Enoch, in my library but, that is all.
Yves on November 07, 2017:
I appreciate your sincerity and enthusiasm. I will say that The Gospel of Thomas, while containing interesting theories, does not meet the criteria for authenticity that all honest scholars recognize. Consequently, while Hanson writes an interesting book, he has ignored the criteria needed to make his theories believable to anyone who has knowledge pertaining to Palestinian backgrounds and historical coherence, and how all of this pertains to ancient texts.
However, your article is interesting and I've no doubt you love God. It's always good to seek!
charlie from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth in between the oceans on April 12, 2014:
why are there so many that always want to add to scripture, always wanting to come up with some new revelation. As Soloman said there is nothing new under the sun.
This is another one of those SO MANY things we were constantly reminded in scripture to beware of and stay away from. It like all the false doctrines do, surfaces every so often as new people are deceived into promoting it. Jesus HAD NO TWIN Brother. You can research all the foolish writings you wish but you will still be promoting false doctrine. Why not just get a direct translation of the scriptures (Like theInterlinear) instead of all the bad ones out there . A direct translation without the comments of the people writing it to make you believe their doctrines will keep you from a lot of error. Esp if you are Born again and Filled With the Holy Spirit and follow the admonition to allow the Holy Spirit to teach truth ,in stead of listening to apostate men and women and their teachings Only HE has ALL TRUTH to give us.
To any new Christians that may read this I warn you to get as far away from this and all other false doctrines that that are so prevalent in today's evil culture, remember we were told it will get so bad that een the elect may be deceived, and the elect can only be deceived if they allow themselves to be by believing things that are contrary to what Jesus and the apostles wrote, lived and talked.
Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Debra Allen from West By God on April 12, 2014:
No body, who is your source....a guy telling you that and a woman should know nothing. Pish Posh. The church has suppressed women for a very long time. Get over it! There has been lots of things come from the Vatican that they have covered up to make it seem like men are the top eschalon of the world. But it is all a fake facade. Jesus did not like the priest and church leaders of his day. Come away from the evil of the church and religion and open your eyes. Jesus wasn't about threats or who is right and who is wrong. He was about freedom of thought and freedom from rome and supression.
MG Singh from UAE on April 12, 2014:
This is a lovely post on a topic which I was not familiar
Debra Allen from West By God on April 12, 2014:
Hi again. This subject keeps popping up in my internet life and I have shared it on one of the questions. I would like to share with you another *used to be hubbers* article. I know that we aren't allowed to post links but I think this one would be good for you to read. You can delete it if you wish after you get the link. This is a great article as is all his articles. This one is about The Word and it progression. The Word being The Word Of GOD. Very good read: https://sites.google.com/site/rationalexpress/the-...
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 04, 2014:
Okay. Thanks for posting.
Helmy Junaidy from Jakarta, Indonesia on January 04, 2014:
See my hub The Fifth Gospel (Lost Year of Jesus) https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Fifth...
lionswhelp on September 01, 2013:
Yes, were did they put Jude? Plus Judah's Daughter is right you need to be careful of Gnostic gospels, they seem interesting but are just there to confuse you. Like JD said Matthew 1:18-23 Does not say anything about the Holy Spirit conceiving two male children in Mary's womb. Only one because Jesus origially was one of the other members of the Elohim God head, He was the Word, John 1:1-3. also like Mattew 1:18-23, Luke 1:30-35, Does not show any twin brother only the One who gave up His divine glory to become one of us and the Savior of the World as the Divine Seed of the Father. If you are wondering about the Godhead then you should visit this Messsianic Website and read Hezekiyah Haas' article about the Holy Spirit and Jesus at: www.tntrevealed.org , Click on the right hand column on Who is theHoly Spirit, the Ruach haKadosh? This may help you. Hmm I have an older brother who looks like me but we are not twins. Jude was maybe one of Jesus younger brothers.
Have a blessed day,
A Friend in Christ on August 18, 2013:
I respect your opinion brother but the theory would somehow destroy the entire Bible. The bible is very clear that before Joseph and Mary had born sons and daughters of their own as a legal couple, Mary[who was still VIRGIN at that time]brought forth THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON(monogenes uios) JOHN 1:18. If Mary had born twins in the person of Jesus and Jude, how the couple was able to determine who is Jesus and who is Jude among the twins? Second, the biblical account of Christ's nativity is very much clear that "a child was born in a manger". If there were twins, where did Joseph and Mary put Jude?
ZMyers on April 01, 2013:
You call yourself a christian then write this. Why? Matthew 1:18-25 proves this post to be invalid!
kayemfree on August 19, 2012:
This article made me think. I need to pick up my bible and read it more closely.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on March 05, 2012:
Thank you so much for your delightful comment.
Shiningstar4u2c from Hilton Head Island on March 05, 2012:
@ intimate evolution - amen, a very thought provoking hub and I did enjoy it very much. As far as His divine it does not matter, but I do feel somehow upon His return one day soon, that much of this will come into play and then we will understand the why of it all, as to if He was married, had a twin etc and what was God's purpose for all of this. Great Hub and like I said thought provoking, I love Hubs that challenge me to think outside the box. God Bless!
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on March 04, 2012:
It doesn't. As I wrote in my hub here, he was divine no matter how you look at it.
Shiningstar4u2c from Hilton Head Island on March 04, 2012:
My question is this. The same as if Jesus was married or not and if He had children or not, and now whether he had a twin brother or not. What does it matter?
I do believe He had brothers and sisters as the Bible said, but that is still just a natural or physical thing, His own voice said to us, "Who is my family but they who do the will of my Father"?
Torben Bo Hansen on December 25, 2011:
This may have your interest.
Torben Bo Hansen
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on September 28, 2011:
Hi ii3rittles, yes I have read the story Adam and Eve. I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree with everything you said about loving Christ and following his teachings.
ii3rittles on September 27, 2011:
Interesting! I can't fully agree or disagree on what you proposed. Most people don't even want to acknowledge Kane and Abel were twin brothers who were from two different mother's. There's a lot in the bible most people don't understand, and I do believe a lot of it is misinterpreted which is why, we must learn through our own hearts, the word of God, and not through other people's mouths! Most people look at me funny when I say church is evil... But most people don't view it for what it "really" is. Its not as it was originally. Most Catholic or Christian churches worship Jesus... WHICH IS A NO NO! We are to worship our heavenly father, God or Lord, in Jesus' name. I always hear praise Jesus, thank Jesus... No, Thank GOD for Jesus. God was the one who gave us a second chance. Jesus died for our sins, but only because God made it so. People forget that. Its turned into a religious mind-**** that causes people to question their own love or faith in God. Religion is something I will never have. To me, being a Christian is simply stating "I love God, I love Jesus, I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, I know Jesus died for my sins, and I follow the 10 commandments". Religion is based on good deeds... My beliefs are based on love; But hey, that's just me thinking outside of the box and not many people go there anymore!
On a side note, did you read Adam and Eve's story? The one that was removed, alone with others in the 1800's? I really feel that their are pieces missing from the bible... Not enough to make us go to hell, but stories that really can impact a non-believers heart to believe.
Beth Perry from Tennesee on September 26, 2011:
IntimatEvolution, this is certainly one very interesting topic. I'm not a Christian but I do feel Jesus of Nazareth indeed was a real person with a very important message that has been tragically altered for the agenda of the less wise. I also think he was a wedded man as Rabbi's are, by traditional law, supposed to be married.
While I haven't formed an opinion yet on Jude Thomas, I will admit my feelings about Saul (Paul) are pretty negative after research. I believe the assertion that concludes he attempted to change the words of Jesus as recorded by St. Thomas. And personally, I suspect Paul was also jealous of Simon Magnus and his personal recollection about the man altered to fit his purposes.
But I enjoyed your articulate information! Have a blessed day.
brotheryochanan on September 14, 2011:
This is why we must never outsource from the canonized bible.
And God said.. eenie meenie mynie meach.. which twin jesus shall i send to preach.
Zeina on August 19, 2011:
I read your knowledgeable reference above today ,i am not a Christian nor any actual religion follower ,my husband is a Christian -but what i can say is Thank you -you actually make alot of sense of what you said and how you presented it .I actually always thought that during the History and years after Christ many written verses where changed by leaders and i am very passionate about finding out more truth then only what the eye sees -I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and God ,i believe in the Angels and all prophets and religion and respect each and everyone opinion but as you i always had a strong curiosity that led me to believe that many books that are published are done for the Good of man to make them believe what they want us to believe -The truth is that there is more than what we see or read and your writing was so interesting that i would love to read more . Thank you and it is Great to know that there are people out there doing researches for the unwritten .
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on July 25, 2011:
I can. Thank you for your post.
davidkaluge on July 23, 2011:
Do you want to know the truth? The truth is what you believe to be true but the real truth is that you can only know what you have been made to know by reading the bible and other scriptures. Those that disagree with such truth do so for they found another. How can you be so sure of what you never witnessed but was told about it? You can either believe the story or you don't so its a matter of choice but don't claim to know what happened behind those closed doors. You can't be so certain of somethings.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on June 14, 2011:
Newfie- Thank you for commenting.
Hi Quotations- what you claim is nothing morrow than speculation. But thanks for commenting.
Robert P from Canada on June 14, 2011:
When the Bible talks about someone having brothers it may just as well be saying that he had cousins or other male relatives. This is because the ancient Hebrew did not distinguish between brother and cousin as we do. So when you see passages that state that Jesus had brothers, it is simply stating that he had cousins. Christian tradition has always maintained that Jesus had no brothers. If Jesus had had a brother, let a lone a twin, it would have been to the church's benefit to advertise this because then the gospels written by His "brothers" would have been seen as more authoritative and more worthy of belief. There would have been no practical advantage for the church to suppress the fact that Christ had a brother, if he had one. But the Church has always maintained that Christ had no siblings and it is traditional belief in both the Catholic and Protestant Churches that Mary died a Virgin, and therefore never gave birth to children by her husband Joseph.
You also refer to the gnostic gospels in support of your argument. You need to keep in mind that the gnostics were not true Christians, and that their belief system incorporated many pagan elements. Their gospels are clearly at odds with traditional Christian belief and were considered heretical by the Church. They form no part of the Bible. So you cannot rely on both the Bible and the gnostic gospels in support of your argument since they are mutually inconsistent and contradictory - either the gnostics are right or Christians are right.
If you rely on the Bible to answer the question of whether Jesus had brothers, there is internal evidence to the contrary. In John 19:26 Jesus entrusts the care of his mother to John. He would not have had to to do so if Jesus had brothers because this would have been automatically their duty.
Another indication that the so called brothers of Jesus in the Bible are meant to refer to cousins or close male relatives is that they are never referred to as the sons of Mary AND Joseph. When they are referred to as the sons of Mary, the Mary referred to is not the mother of Christ, but another Mary as seen in Matt. 27:56 and Mark 15:40.
It is right for you to read and study the Bible, but keep in mind that the words of the Bible have been studied for centuries by scholars with much knowledge of the original languages and the historical context. They overwhelmingly agree that Jesus had no siblings. While you may have come across one writer that says otherwise, it is telling that you yourself point out that he only devoted one paragraph to this topic - hardly insightful Biblical analysis. I would suggest that your theory strays into error and I would urge you to read more extensively before coming to such a radically unorthodox theory.
Newfiegirl on June 13, 2011:
Wow, this is an interesting read. It is good to know that someone is trying to shead light on the full truth. I think there are alot of details missing, and alot of half truths told in the bible
Keep up the good work
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on June 05, 2011:
Thank you so much for commenting on my article.
L.W Gardner on June 04, 2011:
So good to see someone actually digging for the "real truth" . May the almighth bless your efforts for search of true light. \m/,
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on April 30, 2011:
Thanks Rachel for the link.
Rachel on April 29, 2011:
This is very interesting! You might like to look at this website, www.thomastwin.com, that belongs to my father, author of a book related to this, and of a meditation guide. Have a great day! Blessings, Rachel
skylore on November 01, 2010:
All I have to say is if you where anywhere close to the truth the cathlic church would have had you killed by now. Witch leads me to beleave that you might be wrong and they are siting back laughing at you. so I'm glad that at the first of your hub you said that it was your opinion good choice of word
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on September 10, 2010:
Hi sligobay! Nice of you to stop by. I appreciate you taking the time to read my hub. I find that it is best to perform your own solid, yet logical research on Christ. Verses going by what the Catholic Church dogma says is right. So much of their ideology is backwards from that of Jesus. So much of what they believe to be truth, just does not flow with the historical findings, data, and time frame. What it boils down to is that their excuses just don't add up. Now please don't get me wrong, I love my Catholic upbringing and roots. I learn a sense of responsibility and discipline in learning the faith. That right there, is a priceless commodity these days.
I guess you can say, I think it is time to bring out the truth. Christians are capable of handling it, while remaining true to Jesus. You take care, chow.
sligobay from east of the equator on September 07, 2010:
Thank you for your hard work with the article and the replies to the comments. I have learned much. Cheers.
sneed on August 31, 2010:
i believe Jesus had a twin brother. And its hard to understand the miracluos birth od Jesus becuase J
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on June 10, 2010:
Betty- I only wished more people had outlooks like wavestone and yourself. Taking someone's word for something, does not make it law. Search things out, make new discoveries, and the truth will soon speak out. Be well and in peace.
Betty on June 08, 2010:
I thought that too Wavestone. Personally I like to take all religious texts in, process them and let them generate a general impression in my mind, like a piece of art. I don't think we will ever be sure what was written when, what texts were the voice of God or man. All I have is my own experience and this feeling that there is something guiding me...if God puts the KJS Bible in front of me then perhaps I should trust in it completely. I believe got can and will reveal himselves in all our lives and make real the messages in the bible. It may sound vague and non-commital but I don't think God would want us to argue and fight over trivial things that we cannot truly understand or proove.
Wavestone on April 07, 2010:
Just putting this out there but if jesus had a twin brother, can one consider the possibility that that was how the resurection was pulled off. mabey one twin was on the cross and the other emerged from the tomb. It was mentioned earlier that judas identified jesus to the romans with a kiss when the romans were already aware of him. Perhaps judas kissed one of the twins so the romans would know who to arrest. Just a thought.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on March 22, 2010:
Such a long comment, for little worth of conversation.
Geisteswissenschaften on March 22, 2010:
All I can say is "LOL".
wow. next thing you know, some hoakie who tried to kill the Pope will be trying to re-write the most perfect bible in the world and begin his own new religion that he will call, wait for it, Catholic.
Oh wait, that's already happening too.
Why does everybody think they have the answer? Why are these kooks just never satisfied?
Why isn't it good enough for them that the Word IS and has no been "redacted" but chosen.
If you really understood your bible even a smidgeon, then you would be a Catholic. Them Protesters don't know ten things about the Holy Writ, they only think they do.
But this, this is just funny. This is not even worth a conversat...
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 24, 2010:
Peace be with you too. Thank you for reading my hub.
Art Wartenbe from Northwestern Florida, Gulfcoast on January 24, 2010:
Very interesting hub.The prophets in the Old Testament claimed that the Messiah would be born out of the House of David. One God, One Savior, One Faith, however it is intriguing thought that Jesus Christ might have had a twin brother. Gnostisism is what it is. Another theory that perhaps explains other views. Anyway thanks for sharing and be blessed to know Jesus for who He Himself was and what He did for me and for you!
beebong from UK on January 13, 2010:
Thank you very much for your explanations and insights....if nothing else I laughed and felt happy.
Hey keep thinking and searching...the planet needs that!.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 13, 2010:
I see. Thanks for letting me know.
Debra Allen from West By God on January 13, 2010:
Not your end, but lots of the hubs that I have responded to and others then respond don't shouw up and anyone respnded to them. I checked to see if they were on my followers list and most are. It's been this way since they changed everything around. Others have complained aobut it too.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 12, 2010:
Hopefully you'll get it worked out. If it is something on my end, just let me know.
Debra Allen from West By God on January 12, 2010:
This upsets me that these new messages never showed up on my hubfeed. I am having such issues with this new setup and the new management position there.
Anyway, I have a hub on if and when some of us are ready to explore these other books and things. It is called The Long and Winding Road and it isn't about the Beatles song.
Sophia is correct in that when I started to research I thought myself crazy, but once I did finally get to the otherside there was and is someone else that is guiding me---and it isn't Satan! There is no fear when I have been led.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 12, 2010:
Thank you so much for the added scripture and biblical information. I am more interested now to do some further research on the subject. Thanks!
Sophia10 on January 11, 2010:
Thank you Julie. I enjoyed reading your hub. I find it fascinating that so many Christians believe Christianity instantaneously sprang from the death of Jesus and His crucifixion. I truly wish, as you have, that more people would take it upon themselves to question and research the truth of His life. I think most people would be surprised. Anyway…I enjoyed your writing, and if I could, add a few points. In The Gospel of John, John refers to Thomas three different times as Didymus or Twin depending on which version of the Bible you are using (11:16, 20:42, and 21:2). Didymus is the Greek word for Twin, and Thomas comes from the Aramaic word for twin, T’oma. In addition, if you read the incipit to the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, it says, “These are the hidden sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Judas Thomas the Twin recorded.” There is also the fact that in some circles of Syriac Christianity, Judas Thomas was well known as Jesus’ twin brother. Count yourself in high esteem Julie, as many highly credible biblical scholars have debated the very same issue. God Bless!
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 09, 2010:
Yes indeed, he is there.
Glad to have you around.
Sophia10 on January 09, 2010:
Great discussions lead to great discoveries for those who are willing to have an open mind. Two of my favorite ancient Chinese proverbs are: A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood… and… the wicked work harder to preach hell than the righteous do to get to heaven. Show compassion and patience to those who defend their beliefs to the death. They defend because of fear and doubt. When you are raised to believe something all your life, and one day you find that belief challenged with the possibility of another truth, it causes conflict within your own mind. The very foundation of spirituality begins to crumble. Conflict turns to doubt; doubt turns to anxiety; anxiety leads to fear and panic. (usually followed by “OMG! Am I going crazy!!??) This is a process known as “Spiritual Crisis”. It is very real, and it is very frightening. Christ knew this. In the Gospel of Thomas (or The Hidden Sayings of Jesus) He said ”Let one who seeks not stop seeking until one finds. When one finds, one will be troubled. When one is troubled, one will marvel and will reign over all.” The ancient sages believed, and for good reason, that to begin the journey to discover our divine connection with God, was a trip that no one should make alone. They knew that a person could lose themselves within that doubt and fear. For many people the Church is a touchstone. A rock to hold on to. We can believe and do what we are told, and we never have to open that scary little door that leads to the other side. We never have to step outside of the box. We’ll just say “It must be me, I just don’t understand it.” But you will never truly be free. I come full circle now and say that discussions like these are so important to us all, not only for our own growth but to help others grow too. Remember, no matter where or who we are “where two or more gather, I am there.”
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 08, 2010:
Oh how I love great discussions! Thank you for stopping by.
Sophia10 on January 08, 2010:
That’s very true LadyGuinevere. But how could they? What would it look like if everyone knew they had crucified Christ, but then turned around and used Him as the foundation of a very profitable empire? “Oops! We crucified the Son of God!” They needed to cover their tracks and tried to, albeit poorly, in the Gospels. For the most part they are untrue. I believe Christ was crucified, but there are many things that just do not add up. For instance, in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke, Judas betrays Jesus by kissing Him. Why? The Romans were well aware of who he was. Furthermore, if you read the betrayal in the Gospel of John, the “Judas Kiss” is never mentioned. Jesus comes forward and asks the soldiers who they are seeking. In the Gospel of Luke, the events leading up to the crucifixion are humanly impossible. Luke has Christ instituting the Last Supper, praying in the Garden, the betrayal, arrest, and the transfer to Annas. Then, “as soon as it was day…” Jesus faces the Sanhedrin. They then hold council and hand him over to Pontius Pilate, who questions Him, and hands him over to Herod. Herod then questions Him, gives Him fine robes and sends Him back to Pilate. At this point Pilate has to call everyone together, and ask who the people want released. Next is the whole beating, scourging, Cross of Thorns (Luke, however, never mentions the “Cross of Thorns”, although he does mention the casting of lots.) carrying of the cross, nailing to, and finally death. All in six hours…
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 02, 2010:
OpinionDuck on January 02, 2010:
Who was the selected lion food before the Christians?
Debra Allen from West By God on January 02, 2010:
OpinionDuck, exactly. Most religions do not tell you that most of the books and research was burned down at the Library of Alexandria by the ROMANS and they then turned around to blame it on the JEWS. ROME did not want anyone to know the truth or anything but what they chose to tell others. Anyone who came up against their rule was crucified and there were many of them, not just Jesus.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on January 02, 2010:
lol! This could be true.
OpinionDuck on January 02, 2010:
With a twin brother, that could explain the resurrection.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on December 27, 2009:
Fantastic comment. I could not have said it better.
Sophia10 on December 22, 2009:
I too enjoyed this hub tremendously. I wish however, that people would remember that it is birth, place and education that give us our faith. Few people believe in any religion because of the evidence THEY have examined of it’s authenticity, or the judgment THEY have made after weighing the testimony of other sources. Most people believe what they are taught and the fanatics are those fight and quote scripture, and yet know the least about what their faith is based on. Kudos to you Julie for unwavering faith in God and in the Message of Jesus Christ, even after having stumbled upon the all too evident omission and errors in the scriptures. There are many, many passages in the Bible where the historical facts contradict scripture. The Romans kept very good records, and one of those records is in reference to the death of Herod, who died in 4 BCE. The bible tells us that at that time an angel appeared to Joseph and told him to take the child and his mother to the land of Israel because it was now safe. This would make Jesus older than what we have all been taught. In addition, we know that John the Baptist was beheaded in 35 AD. We also know that Pontius Pilate left Jerusalem and went back to Rome in 36 AD. This then places the crucifixion in between 35 and 36 AD. So, even if you want to concluded Jesus’ birth as 1 AD, you than have to conclude he was not 33 when he died. Read the Canonical Gospels side by side, one story at a time. Start with Matthew, read the first story, then flip to Mark and read the first story, and so on. There are numerous discrepancies within each of the stories themselves, from Gospel to Gospel. However, with this knowledge, the big question to ANYONE who call themselves a Christian; Is your faith based on theologies dependent upon particular historical events, or on the Message of Jesus Christ?...If someone took away my Church, would they still know I was a Christian? Again Julie, I applaud you, and all others who feel that it really doesn’t matter if He had a twin; if He was married and had children, or if He was even an Essene of the Theraputae Egyptians . What was important, was his Message. (by the way, I’m a Christian)
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on December 18, 2009:
Thank you for your heartfelt comment. I hope to see you around some more.
jerami from Houston tx on December 17, 2009:
I enjoyed this hub tremendously. I have always known that it just isn't right to exclude all other writings of that time as being the inspired word of God. Why only those that were accepted. so much knowledge lost. I ask my self why that had to be? Thank you for your insight.
Judah's Daughter from Roseville, CA on December 12, 2009:
I pray we don't debate God's truths that are clear in His Word ~ you are loved, Sister in Christ. Please do not be moved in your faith by worldly teachers, for they can deceive even the very elect of God "if it were possible". Do not be deceived! :-)
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on December 12, 2009:
I have to say it is so good to see a real Christian debate in the air of excitement, and with all do respect. Wonderful! Thank you for commenting.
Judah's Daughter from Roseville, CA on December 11, 2009:
AMEN, to M Cassain ~ 1 Corinthians 10:32 states "Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God--" and also James 3:1 "Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment."
Know that we share these things in love, for you are our sister in the Lord!
M Cassian from Central California, USA on December 11, 2009:
I wholeheartedly agree with Judah's Daughter. Julie, I believe what you are saying here is trying to add to the perfect Word of God, which we are strictly forbidden from doing in Deuteronomy 4:2, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." And Deuteronomy 12:32, "What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it." AND Proverbs 30:5-6, "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
Your study comes from a broad playing field, and stretches way to far from the Word. I mean no offense, but this is how cults are started! Please, depart from this. It will produce no fruit and could cause your brothers and sisters to stumble.
May God's grace be with you.
Judah's Daughter from Roseville, CA on December 10, 2009:
We must read and accept what the Bible clearly states in Matthew 1:18- "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been BETROTHED to Joseph, BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. And Joseph her husband (ENGAGED - same as married in Jewish culture), being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly. But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be AFRAID TO TAKE MARY AS YOUR WIFE (I thought you said they were already married? NOT); for the Child (do you see "children" here?) who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. If Mary was pregnant by Joseph with a twin, they wouldn't have known it ~ only that she was carrying Joseph's child WITHIN the confines of marriage. If this were the case, Joseph would have no need to protect her from disgrace or consider not marrying her, as the Bible states!
Have you ever read Luke 2:22-23? "And when the days for their purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, 'EVERY firstborn MALE THAT OPENS THE WOMB SHALL BE CALLED HOLY TO THE LORD')." Now, those perentheses are not mine ~ they are in the Bible. What does firstborn mean? Second, third or fourth? What does "opens the womb" mean? It means the womb has not been previously opened. Firstborn child that is a male; this is what this means.
If you thirst for knowledge so much that you would contradict the Bible by reading Gnostic (rooted in "knowledge" books), I feel you've fallen prey to the Devil's temptation to eat from that "tree of knowledge". You must believe in the virgin birth (not defiled or having had sexual relations with any man) and that any type of twin must share the same DNA ~ the same father. Jesus is God's ONLY begotten (born) Son. To declare that He was in Mary's womb along with a child conceived by Man, sin would have been present in her, for this is the very reason Jesus is holy ~ He was not conceived or defiled by the seed of mankind. I pray you will submit to the truth of God and not seek and worship knowledge more than His truth, which is only revealed by His Word (not anyone else's) through the Holy Spirit.
donald davis - Indianapolis on December 09, 2009:
This thread may be dead. If it isn't, I would like to encourage you, and everyone else here, do take a look at this teaching by Jim Searcy
Jim Searcy is a very hard teacher. Dividing the Word without any sugar coating. He is one of the few men I listen to today that offer heavy MEAT for those with ears to hear. I hear in your words a genuine love for the Saviour and Messiah. Please read this article :)
Related is an audio lesson along the same lines:
Another somewhat related I think:
I encourage you ALL to read and listen to these teachings.
Something else I would ask you all to listen to is this talk by Henry Gruver. VERY important for those of us in America today.
And another :)
When is the Rapture?
God's mercy and grace be upon each of you. May He save all of us :)
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on December 01, 2009:
I could not have said it better myself.
Little Nell from Somerset, UK on December 01, 2009:
I take issue with the comment that implies the Nag Hammedi scrolls are "false" even "evil"!! The Nag Hammedi scrolls and the many millions of fragments found at Oxyrynchus, some of which contain bits of the texts also found at Nag Hammedi, are an opportunity to read original texts and to make a translation based on the original text and not on copies that have been copied and translated many times. To say this precious documentary evidence is false or evil is unbelievably ignorant. We may not understand the meaning, or have a complete text, but they should never be dismissed out of hand.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 20, 2009:
Thanks Peter and Lady. Thank you very much.
Debra Allen from West By God on November 20, 2009:
TWAK MAN is a spammer.
Debra Allen from West By God on November 20, 2009:
Julie, Julie, Julie. I haven't read the entirity of your hub, but I do find things like this very interesting. Asking questions of some scripture pointing persons will get you called many un-called for names. I am joining your fanclub, becaseu I am on this search withyou. You can read what my other hubs have to say about all this religion and stuff. It amazes me that when a new idea is put out the staunch rethoric that you get back. It's more like a knee jerk reaction. They are the blind and the one's who "refuse" to hear as the Bible states. Welcome to Hubpages and the circus! I will read more of your hub later when I can find the time to really get into it.
Peter Dickinson from South East Asia on November 20, 2009:
I just re-read your hub and enjoyed it even more the second time. I think you could add another angle by investigating the meaning of the word 'virgin' in those far off days. It meant a lot different to what it does today. Thanks again.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 11, 2009:
I think most forget that I wrote that anything God does is divine.
Whether I believe that Judas Thomas was Christ's twin brother, does NOT change the meaning of Christ's purpose or that he was God's begotten one.....
Marcus D Mays on November 11, 2009:
The reason Christ was called the only begotten was because of His purpose, the way it is used in the KJV makes it seems like He was GODs' only son, Christ was the eldest and He does have a younger brother, and this is the Lion of Judah. Comment to Hoowantsotono about the begotten!
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 09, 2009:
Marcus and AquaSilver- thank you for your comments. I greatly appreciate people like yourselves, and your knowledgeable, insightful thoughts. It is a pleasure conversing with you two and learning more good news on Christ.
In Peace, Julie
John Harper from Malaga, Spain on November 09, 2009:
I have read the hub and found it fascinating and certainly worth exploring, and I'm about as KJV as you can get!
I would just LOVE to see you at a Catholic bible study, I bet the Monsignor loves you!
Come to that I'd love to see you at a Prot bible study, they'd probably put you on a bonfire on the church lawn!
I have lots of questions, but I will pay you the respect of examining your evidence before I make any comments!
Stay Blessed, if you love Christ as much as you say, I'm fine with your take on things unless I see glaring error (like the misquote from Isaiah in the other hub?) did you get the verse wrong or were you testing your readers!
Christian K. on November 07, 2009:
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign.
Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,
and shall call His name Immanuel(God with us).
Marcus D Mays from firstname.lastname@example.org on November 06, 2009:
Very interesting that at least you know this much about His brother, but the truth is that Jesus didn't have a twin brother. Jesus actually have a brother but they are not twins. Not talking about His step brothers, that Mary and Joseph had after Jesus. I am talking about the brother that GOD sent on assignment like Christ.
Look at Matthew 21 verses 28-31, Psalm 23 verse 4, Zechariah 4 verse 14, Luke 15 verses 11-32, and Revelation 5 verses 1-8.
After looking at these verses you should start to see his brother as you know already and I applaused you for that. The mother of the other son is in the book of Revelation 12. I thank the LORD for you cause He has enlighten you with something that HE have instructed me about. Keep on studying and seeking not only the bible but other books also, that was not included in the bible.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 06, 2009:
YOU apparently didn't read my hub... The scripture is in the writings. Don't bother preaching and reading scripture to me. Clearly you don't have a clue....
I cannot stand an ignorant Christian. It's not becoming, and it speaks volumes about their religious character.
The next time around, read the damn hub first before you post.
HOOWANTSTONO on November 06, 2009:
Joh:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Joh:1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh:1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
Ex:34:14: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
enough for now, so where is the twin
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 06, 2009:
THat can be said of the bible too.
jeffjacksonlive from New Albany, IN on November 05, 2009:
Sorry but this is heresy.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 04, 2009:
Yes, I agree with your scripture. However, if you take another look at what I wrote, hopefully you would reread the fact that I was not disputing that at all......
I believe Judas was for Mary and Joseph, and Christ was for God, essentially then us.
Yeah, I also commented on quoting me scripture. Though I'm glad you know our bible well- the scripture quoted does not make your case (with me at least). Because I can requote you scripture, out of the same bible that makes my case. Like, oh I don't know... quoting the same "biblical" scripture I did above. So, while I appreciate your comment, it doesn't make for the case that I'm wrong. Thank you for reading and participating with me on my hub, it was a pleasure to read your comment. Julie
HOOWANTSTONO on November 03, 2009:
So who called Jesus Christ only begotten.
Joh:3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
M't:3:17: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on November 03, 2009:
Indeed it is. Thanking for commenting and reading this hub.
Lisa on November 03, 2009:
I Find it very interesting to hear your view on twins in the Bible. I also find that in the book of Genesis their are also a set of twins (Cain & Abel) Study it. It's REAL interesting. Genesis 4:1
Scott.Life on September 19, 2009:
Wow that was very interesting and to step outside of my own stance on this subject for a second...what better way to be seen rising from the dead then to have a twin be seen after your death...I know you don't contend they were Identical but neither I my brother and I and we're actually two years apart yet we are always confused for the other...it was a good read
Linda Joslin from UNIVERSE on September 06, 2009:
Great hub and over the next couple of years I feel there will be much more discovered about the real truth........
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on August 28, 2009:
And to you. Thank you for stopping by.
christianbooks on August 28, 2009:
You've made me hooked up in front of my monitor to read this hub... it's really interesting to read. God bless!
Peter Dickinson from South East Asia on August 24, 2009:
Fascinating read. Thank you from a non believer.
Dr. Oscar A. Williams, Jr. from PA on August 23, 2009:
I just don't get it. The Bible is the inspired word of God with out error. Why do people think when some so called scholar, historian etc. comes up with something contrary to the Bible it is accepted as truth. What is the matter with "unto us a child is born" If Jesus had a twin God would have put there "unto us two children are born", but he did not. Is the writings of men better than the written word of God? I would not want to stand before a Holy God to explain why I did not believe what He wrote as oppsed to some gnostic. I know some one will say men wrote the Bible. They were Holy men of God who wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on June 02, 2009:
Yeah, that's too bad. But hey, I'm glad she believes in Christ! Thank you for commenting on my hub.
cashmere from India on June 02, 2009:
You make a great case. But I know not many people will like the point. My Ma in law is a staunch Catholic, and will be upset to even consider this theory.
RKHenry from Neighborhood museum in Somewhere, USA on May 31, 2009:
Interesting! Great read.
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on May 31, 2009:
Peace and love to you too Bob!
Robert E Smith from Rochester, New York on May 30, 2009:
My name is Bob and I too am glad to make your acquaintance, madam. Aww heck, that was too formal. Howdy friend! Thank you and keep reading the Bible. Peace, Love
Julie Grimes (author) from Columbia, MO USA on May 30, 2009:
Oh yes, of course! I'm so glad love to read the biblical works as much as I. I think the bible(s) are wonderful sources of information. My name is Julie, it has been a pleasure meeting you.
Robert E Smith from Rochester, New York on May 30, 2009:
No I think most texts of the Scripture are okay. There are a few I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole (New World Translation is one example) I don't mind reading the Apocryphal Writings but I don't feel that their conanical because of the contradictions to the 66 books of the Bible canon. The KJV and NKJV have a lot of work done on them for accuracy but I know preachers that I respect alot, and some love NIV and some American Standard. I have memorized so much of the old KJV that the NKJV is a normal outgrowth for me. I love the flow of the words that is conducive to memorization. I need memorization to be able to speak to my new friends on the Hub. (like you maybe?)