Direct Quote From the Book: "True Devotion to Mary"!
"I avow, with all the Church, that Mary, being but a mere creature that has come from the hands of the Most High, is, in comparison with His Infinite Majesty, less than an atom; or rather she is nothing at all, because He only is "He who is"....author St. Louis de Montfort, canonized and a doctor of the Church.
...it was but Mary who found grace before God... "Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amoung women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus" (salutation from the angel Gabriel.
[What mysteries God partly reveals to us...yet many things we will not understand until we reach heaven and even then, not all, as if we understood all..we would be equal to our God.]
Mary is NOT God, She is Not worshiped, but she IS special.
I know this has been and probably will be for a long time, a very debated and misunderstood subject! Even I had confusion with it myself. But I feel it is important to discuss, to write about, and to be informed of. So, here I go!
I was raised Catholic, and wasn't always attending church weekly or doing my best. At age 33, which is a wonderful age, because Jesus died for us when he was 33, I became what you call a "born again Christian" and stayed away from Mass.
Then I missed mass so I went back. What was missing in my life was the Eucharist and things at mass you don't get in bible churches. It's a long long story. Too long to tell right now.
So, to this day though, I still feel I need to read the bible daily, AND the Catholic church in EVERY mass preaches the gospel and from different books of the bible, so anyone telling you that Catholics are against the bible are lying! In fact, there are so many misunderstandings and lies about Catholics that I can't name them all!
But what this page is about is Mary. Yes. Mary in the bible is the mother of Jesus. She was impregnated by the Holy Spirit. She is often called the "house of God" because she had Him in her womb.
Mary is such a complex subject. Why? Because, she is not mentioned a lot in the bible. Can you imagine, that if God created a "special" woman to be the one who held Jesus in her womb for 9 months, I mean she had to be special or why would God put his Divine holy Son in something filthy?! So, God created a woman who was born without original sin, that only makes sense.
But, we Do NOT worship Mary. NO!
We only recognize her "specialness".
Please let me also say, before I forget, that it has been talked about that Mary was very humble and did NOT want to be mentioned a lot in the bible. Jesus did call her woman when He changed water into wine. But, can you imagine the PAIN, if you were the mother of Jesus, you would have had to go through to see him crucified, knowing He was God, and also not to mention having to run away from Herod and travel to Egypt while pregnant, and have a birth in a stable---if you are a woman,,,,,can you imagine giving birth in a filthy place like that? These are just a few "inconveniences" she endured but all willingly, if you read when the angel Gabriel in the bible "asked" her if her if she would be the mother of Jesus, she CHOSE so WILLINGLY...."Behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it done unto me according to Thy word." later she said, "He has done great things to me" and "All generations shall call me blessed". Yeah--don't let anyone fool you. These are important things to keep in mind.
This subject alone could keep catholics confused or out of mass!
That is why I am writing about this. One reason, is that this kept me out of Mass for awhile, and I missed out on the sacraments, mainly Eucharist and confession. Sacraments help keep us holy and devout. Frequent accountability for sin, frequent reception of Jesus in Holy Communion is beautiful. I notice the difference and you will too, if you go back to Mass and go to confession and communion. In fact, they say "confession heals the soul" and this is not a cliche! It really does.
Mary is not God. But sometimes we call her the Mother of God, because Jesus is God and she is the human mother of Jesus. The Catholic church is really complex. As it should be! God created His Church through Jesus and of course it's complicated!
Of course also, the devil and EVIL attacks it, and that why there is so much confusion, because evil hates good. (That's why bad things have happened, but that's another article for another day.) Just understand, it says in the bible, "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" referring to God's church, and it's true, the Catholic church is still standing.
Even though the mass used to be in Latin, and was changed to the vernacular, which many don't like, it is still okay to go to the vernacular (or mass in your own language.) This is actually helpful to many who are not able to learn Latin. But believe me, you can feel the holiness of Latin.
Prayer is a way of asking for help. We ask our friends to pray for us, we can ask Mary to as well
Recently, in the book, "True Devotion to Mary" (by the way, are any of you devoted to your own human parents? Well- same idea here), it mentioned that God gave to Mary special privileges. Well, that doesn't seem far fetched to me in my logical brain. Would it to you?
Why do the bible Christians so often insist on putting Mary under the rug, or "stepping on her" and saying she's an "ordinary woman", and "no better than any other human woman"? Isn't that actually a misconception and insulting to you, (if you understand my thoughts on this?)
First of all:
- Mary is not God
- there are different degrees of holiness
- in heaven there will be different degrees of holiness
- if #3 is true, it makes sense Mary is the holiest of all humans
- Mary bore Jesus in her womb.
- It is only logical that God gave privileges to Mary
- It is said Mary never sinned. But in the bible she needed a savior. yes she did. But you can need a savior and still be "promoted" and treated "special" and not sin....
So, you see there really is A LOT to think about. Yes, indeed. And, I'm sure there are many more things we will need to discuss if you're talking Bible Christian vs. Catholic but for today, I would like to just keep this "on topic" about Mary 1) Not being God 2) Being Special. Thank you!
Very entertaining nun speaks about Mary
Thank you for your time! Feel free to comment here!
Melanie from Wisconsin on February 18, 2021:
I think the main issue is that people, including yourself, are not looking at the original Greek text and truly understanding what it is that Elizabeth was saying to Mary when she spoke in Luke 1:42. The word "blessed" in that verse is translated from the original Greek word Εὐλογημένη which means "to speak well of, to bless".
There are 43 occurrences of that exact same word found in the Bible.
Matthew 5:44 "bless them that curse"
Matthew 26:26 "and blessed [it], and brake"
Luke 2:34 "And Simeon blessed them, and"
Luke 24:51 "while he blessed them, he was parted"
Galatians 3:9 "who are of faith are blessed with Abraham"
Hebrews 6:14 "Surely blessing I will bless thee, and"
And the list goes on.
If we look at the other examples in which this exact same word is found, we can come to a very specific conclusion. MARY IS NOT EXALTED. This same word Εὐλογημένη was used by Jesus before He broke bread, it was used by Paul to talk about people of faith being blessed with Abraham, and (the clincher) we are told to use this same exact word to bless our enemies!
Explain to me using Biblical proof that Mary should be exalted simply because Elizabeth said she was "blessed among women". This is absolute heresy and the evidence is laid before you. I beg you to open up your eyes and see this for what it is - IDOLATRY. This is not opinion, these are facts. You need to check everything you believe with the Bible. If you don't then you are merely relying on your own fallible thoughts and ideas and that is an incredibly destructive and dangerous place to be.
For reference, you can find all the information I have shared in the following links:
gyanendra mocktan from Kathmandu,Nepal on February 17, 2021:
I agree with you Amen!!
schoolgirlforreal (author) on February 17, 2021:
Thanks for reminding me of this. There is something about mary, that when we do focus on her, it leads us to Jesus, and thats the intention God has.
That's why He has given her glory. "Blessed are you amoung women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb" said by st. Elizabeth in the gospel when john the Baptist leaped in her womb when the two ladies met.
House of Gold, Comforter of the afflicted, tower of david, are some of her titles.
She is a mystery. But the important thing is that she leads us to a closer union with her son Jesus.
If a person sold their soul to satan and yet said the rosary daily, it's promised salvation.
Thank God for his mercy.
gyanendra mocktan from Kathmandu,Nepal on February 16, 2021:
I remember during my school days, I would kneel down in front of the satue of Mother Mary and pray and pray. The result, I got what I wanted in those days. I had my own kind fantasy world!
Next, Fr. Xavier shared about Motherhood. He started with these questions, "Can you feel the same feeling as a woman when she is pregnant? Can you feel the pain as a woman when she delivers a child? If I am here today, its because of my mother who had carried me in her womb for 9 months. During those nine days, I had no idea of where I was.
Now I am talking in front you about a girl child, a woman, a mother, then grant mother.
Without Mary Jesus would not have come to the world. ....
Look at the greatness of a womanhood. Look at their power of creation. So, I don't say you have to understand this mystery of womanhood right now. But I would say learn to respect them
Just you pray to Mary, and don't know how to respect a girl, a woman...."
Thank you schoolgirlforreal
schoolgirlforreal (author) on May 05, 2020:
Luke 1:28, 41-42.
Is where the hail mary originated.
Whether to pray it or the rosary??
Some say praying the rosary while
Meditating on the Mysteries brings them closer to Christ for example I will tell you the Mysteries of the Rosary first there are the joyful then the sorrowful then the Glorious the Joyful Mysteries are
the Annunciation of the angel Gabriel to Mary
the visitation of mary to her cousin Elizabeth
The birth of Jesus
The presentation of Jesus
The finding of Jesus.
Sorrowful (very important)
The agony in the garden
the scourging at the pillar
The Crowning with thorns
The carrying of the cross
The resurrection of Jesus
The Ascension of Jesus
The Descent of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles
The assumption of Mary
The coronation of Mary
If you look over the Mysteries of the Rosary he will see that they are all based on Jesus life except for the last two of the Glorious.
In the first two of the joyful
The interesting thing about that to me is that Jesus came into this world by impregnating Mary with the Holy Spirit which is the Incarnation and so it seems appropriate that the first two Joyful Mysteries speak of mary.
my favorite Mysteries used to always be the sorrowful because I felt that it was very worthwhile to reflect on the of suffering of Jesus so that we realize that nothing we go through is anything near that he suffered and it gives us the inspiration we need in the strength to go on.
another prayer the Catholics tend to say is the way of the cross
it is based on the Bible it is based on the events that took place while Jesus was carrying his cross
I'm not going to argue and tell people to pray to Mary or not I'm just saying that I think that the rosary does help a lot of people to meditate on the life of Jesus and I would leave it up to each individual to decide what they want to do some people get a lot out of it but I wouldn't recommend it if someone is going to mindlessly say it without thinking and not meditate on the Mysteries which is the most important part the most important part is not praying the Hail Mary but it is meditating on each Mystery and the life of Jesus Christ so the subject is very debatable and I am not an expert but I am only speaking of what I know.
I hope the bible quote helped.
schoolgirlforreal (author) on May 05, 2020:
Thank you Melanie.
I love the bible. And the our father. And praying directly to God/Jesus/the Holy Spirit (trinity).
Meditating can be difficult to do.
I like the Divine Mercy chaplet. It has no pray e rs to Mary except one hail mary. Which is not necessary t o include.
I have no argument for you.
You asked for scripture?
I can get u the scriputyre when Im not sick. I will soon.
But I cannot really tell anyone what to do ....if they should or shouldbt say rosary
I can say we need a relationship with Jesus is #1.
Melanie from Wisconsin on May 04, 2020:
I don't know of any scripture that backs up anything you are saying and it's not for a lack of research. If you're going to say that it's biblically based then you need to provide scripture to back up your claim. I did not find a single quote of scripture in your article nor in your response, and yet I have provided plenty of scripture to show how unbiblical this is.
On a personal level, I cannot understand what the purpose of praying to someone else asking them to pray for you is. This makes no sense. Why not pray to God directly and just ask Him for what you need? He knows what you need before you even ask (Matthew 6:8). The rosary prayers are merely asking Mary to intercede for us in prayer when the reality is that by doing so you neglect praying to God directly and establishing a relationship with Him. Praying for someone else to pray for you is like wishing for more wishes. It gets you nowhere. But, opinions and emotions are meaningless so let's dive into some scripture and analyze this.
While I can certainly understand the idea of praying to Mary being similar to asking a friend to pray, the problem lies in that the rosary prayers take away from Jesus and exalt Mary instead. Firstly, Matthew 6:5-15 gives us the Lord's prayer which is said in the rosary, and obviously that portion of the rosary prayer is biblical. However, if we look at verses 5-8 it tells us what not to do, and part of that is to not pray as the pagans do with babbling and repetitive prayers thinking that we will be heard because of our many words. So putting this into context, the act of praying the rosary and repeating those prayers is exactly what we are told not to do in scripture.
Additionally, the majority of the prayers prayed during the rosary are Hail Marys. If this is indeed what you claim to be a meditation, then why are we meditating on Mary? Does God not tell us very clearly in scripture to meditate on His Word and His Word alone? Joshua 1:8, Psalm 1:2, and Psalm 119:15, 78, 97-99 are very clear examples of how we are to meditate and it is ONLY on the Word of God. We are not to meditate on any one person or anything else. While I can see that you perceive the intention is to meditate on the life of Christ, the actual reality is that He is not the main focus of these prayers.
While I can give you the fact that most of the Mysteries do reflect the life of Christ, the Joyful Mysteries are questionable at best and are mostly based on speculation, not scripture. The Annunciation proposes that Mary had to give consent to God in order to bear Jesus and this is a blatant lie. She did not "give consent", she had faith that God would make it so. This is further proved with her visit with Elizabeth in Luke 1:45 "Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!" The rest of the Joyful Mysteries play into emotion and have little to no biblical foundation. Regardless, they describe what Mary felt, what she did, and what she went through, and this has no bearing on the gospel of Christ. If the focus of the rosary is truly supposed to be on Jesus, then let it be on Jesus alone. Hail Mary is prayed an astounding 53 times and in comparison there are only 4 out of 5 mysteries that focus on the life of Christ. Is this really honoring Christ when He is clearly secondary in the rosary? Even considering the Hail Holy Queen prayer, what kind of title is this if Jesus is King? She was his mother, she's not a queen, and by giving her this title is puts her on the same exact level as Jesus and that alone is shameful.
Aside from all this, consider what prayers are actually being said. The majority of the time, the prayers focus on asking for the salvation of people from eternal damnation and asking Mary to pray for us. The whole point of the gospel is dying to self, serving others, serving God, and loving Him and His people. What kind of message are we sending to God when the focus of our prayers is asking Him for things? We should be dying to self, asking Him what we can do for Him and not what He can do for us. Prayers don't mean a thing if they aren't backed up in action. The rosary does not at all reflect how God has told us to pray. Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.'' We are to seek the kingdom first, above everything. Really ask yourself, do the rosary prayers really put people in the position of seeking FIRST the kingdom of God? An honest answer would be no.
schoolgirlforreal (author) on May 02, 2020:
Hi Melanie, I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Im working with atiny keypad.
Its difficult to type on, a long response. You raise valid points.
I dont disagree. However asking a friend for help, or to pray for you is similar to asking Mary to pray for you. The rosary is like a meditation. The hail mary is biblically based. It is the salutation of the angel gabriel to mary "hail mary full of grace" most of the hail mary is in the bible. the rosary teaches us to meditate on the life of Christ. It is useful to do I believe.
Melanie from Wisconsin on April 03, 2020:
I appreciate the time you took to write this article, but there are many problems I am seeing with this. You have not actually presented any biblical foundation for the things you are saying, they are mere speculations and opinions. I can understand why you feel the way that you do, but I think it's important to see what the Bible says about these issues because this is our only source of truth.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Mary never sinned, in fact it says in Romans 3:23 "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" - there is no exception. I can understand that from a human perspective we would like to think that Mary was without sin, because we cannot fathom God wanting His seed to mingle with that of sinners. However, the Bible tells us that God's Holy Spirit dwells within us (1 Corinthians 3:16, 6:19, 6:16, Ezekiel 36:27) so if we are thinking about this biblically, God did and continues to "be inside" of sinners to this very day. If He were so repulsed by us sinners, He would not indwell His Spirit within us nor would He make our bodies temples of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). Saying that Mary was sinless is not only dismissive of the fact that God tells us we are ALL sinners, but it is ultimately a rejection of His absolute mercy and His desire to understand humanity. Additionally, describing her as sinless places her on the same level as Jesus with the only difference being that she did not break the veil between God and man by taking our sins to the cross.
For the sake of argument, let's say that Mary was indeed sinless. The Bible never tells us to pray to her, or to anyone other than God. In fact, when Jesus taught His disciples to pray (Luke 11:2-4), He taught them to directly address the Father. Jesus never instructed people to pray to anyone other than God Himself and this pattern is clear throughout the Bible (Psalm 17:6, Philippians 4:6). This brings us to another area - Catholic confession. 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that "there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". The problem here is that people are going to a human priest to confess their wickedness instead of going to the Father directly. While the "acts" of confession are commendable and absolutely something a believer should be doing, they aren't to be done in a ritualistic fashion. The mark of a true believer is the Holy Spirit dwelling within and convicting a person causing them to repent and do away with their sin. If the Holy Spirit is within a person there is no need to "go to confession" because He will convict you in that moment and in turn you confess your sins to God (Psalm 32:5). If a person does not genuinely feel convicted of their sin, then there is no point in confessing it to a priest anyway because they don't even have the Holy Spirit. God does not honor ritual, He honors righteousness (Romans 8:1-18, Ephesians 2:8-9).
schoolgirlforreal (author) on April 13, 2019:
Good point! Yes the Mass is totally geared as worship to God alone.
Edwin Alcantara from California on April 12, 2019:
Amen. My understanding is that the Mass constitute worship. We can offer up the sacrifice of the mass to God alone. Catholics do not offer the mass to Mary. This is something many do not realize. Thanks for your article.
schoolgirlforreal (author) on April 09, 2019:
You are very welcome, Linda, I am very pleased when I can be of assistance to others. God bless you both.
Linda Rogers from Minnesota on April 09, 2019:
My sister & I are reading this prayer together this evening. Thank you for sharing this gift with me.
schoolgirlforreal (author) on April 08, 2019:
I'm glad you enjoyed this. I would like to share a powerful prayer (besides the rosary- which can convert anyone if said daily, even people who have sold their soul to the devil- I read that in "The secret of the Rosary" book) The Memorare: Remember oh most gracious virgin Mary that never was it known, that anyone who implored thy help or sought thy intercession was left unaided. inspired with this confidence, i fly unto thee oh virgin of virgins my mother, to thee I come before thee I stand sinful and sorrowful, oh mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions but in thy clemency hear and answer me. Amen. then put your request.
Mary is the most powerful model of chastity and purity I know. She is such a wonderful person to emulate.
You are welcome.
Linda Rogers from Minnesota on April 07, 2019:
I found this article on Mary very interesting. I have always held a deep devotion to Mother Mary. My father passed on his love of Mother Mary to me. I've read much about her & watched many movies of her appearing to children. Thanks for sharing this wonderful article to a fellow Catholic.