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~ A Few Important Lessons I Have Learned Along the Way ~ Part I

Pastoral Counselor ordained Elder/Minister Ambassador at Alpha 7 Ministries M.A.Christian Clinical Counseling Certified in Creation Therapy


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A Few IMPORTANT Lessons I Have LEARNED Along the Way

Years ago, when I took my counseling internship, I took it in an office in the comfortable ritzy suburbs. The other portion in the homeless shelters with torn apart families. There were separated couples, displaced veterans, hurting people some traumatized with a multiplicity of issues and with battered and abused women. One of the shelters was in the suburbs right behind both a Mercedes Benz and Cadillac luxury car dealerships located in a vacated armory. One was located way out of the way, down across by and over on the other side of the railroad tracks in the city. One located amidst a commercial business park.

What was so interesting only in the case of extreme emergency could the residents stay in the shelters during the day. They had to be out rain or shine first thing in the morning. In the suburbs they could not linger anywhere near or close to the luxury dealerships. If so, they would not be able to return. They of course did not want their potential customers disturbed in any way by the homeless… Both of the shelters had on site security guards.

There was such a contrast in the various environments but not really in the overall personality dynamics. Good life changing counseling skills requires us to be able to see from a broad spectrum of perspectives. Christian Counseling requires us to depend on the Lord more than anything for He is the Creator & Sustainer of life. Hurting people exist in every walk of life. No matter how much one might have or does not have pain does not discriminate.

At the time my counseling supervisor Dr. "B" was not too enthused about coming to the shelter at first… He personally assigned himself to see how progressive the environment was and how well I was faring and utilizing my counseling skills. Nor was my home Church at the time really keen on having the homeless come to the Church. They did not really want a lot of the homeless being brought there for counseling. No concern for worry because that was not my intentions. I went to them and eventually they set me up with a nice safe quaint little office… Initially the university wondered if maybe, or perhaps the environment would be a bit too harsh and eventually they saw how well I could manage it…

"One Spot" Therapy!

It was here I learned the significant value of healthy boundaries as well as “One Spot” therapy! Which is a onetime counseling session. One spot simply means that when a person knows that they may have perhaps one opportunity to talk to you and will probably not ever see you again. Once open they will say to you what has been stored up for years! I have heard the unimaginable... "Praying without ceasing" truly works! I praise and thank God for His Omnipresence. I learned to really trust the Lord during my many volunteer hours. It helped me to appreciate the value of not assuming or if you do to be readily willing to release any stereotypes. I learned here the true meaning of “MINISTRY BEYOND & INSIDE THE WALLS.”

There is much spiritual warfare that takes place when you reach out to help those who are tormented and in much pain. Sometimes It means just giving them a genuine healthy gentle hug or not hugging at all. Everyone does not have good boundaries... Sometimes a good firm look is required. There are times that anger may be projected upon you. Sometimes caring means not reacting but responding attentively and patiently listening… Wise godly Christian Counseling requires us to exercise healthy boundaries.

I am not one to pry into the business affairs of others. But always open for discussion if needed or when necessary. People will freely share with you what they want you to know. I also accompanied several clients (this is what they called the residents) on occasion along with a guard, who were 5150 sectioned to the hospital to help relieve a client who at times experienced extreme anxiety and sometimes considered volatile. This requires that you are able to stay centered. 5150 Meaning they had been put under involuntary mandatory psychiatric confinement for observation for 72 hours to determine their questionable mental state?

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Discernment is a precious GIFT

It is here I also learned that I naturally empathize. I thank the Lord for discernment. My concern literally drained me. My growing trust in God helped immensely and sharpened my discernment. Whenever or wherever you are in a large group where emotions are high it is a good to amp up your discernment. Do pay attention to your surroundings at all times. Discernment is a precious "GIFT" from the LORD. My husband/Pastor is also very protective of me (in a good way) because of this. Not everyone has good self-control... This is also true even when in worship services and the energy is high. Always remember; "The wheat and tares are growing together." We have seen some interesting things take place. I have had to intervene on many occasions. Healthy boundaries really are necessary!

"MORE GOSPEL & Less Gossip!"

I learned that through my trust in God; it was what kept me safe. Life is serious and staying in tuned with the Lord will help you immensely. I was not ever fearful but always alert and cautious. I so had to depend on the Lord for direction in a totally nonspiritual environment. Time out for foolishness. When others in the midst of you are under some type of influence you need to be aware and alert! They are subject to say or do anything... This also further sharpened my discernment. Gradually the doors opened more and more… I was given more clarity. I learned the power of staying centered upon the Lord! Trust in God gives us a humble yet strong firm "Solid Rock Foundation." I know without doubt realize, embrace and truly believe that God is Omnipresent, Omniscient & Omnipotent.

Although I was learning the required psychology and sharpening my skills on the art of counseling, I learned that it took God in my life to really help me help them. You see the Lord always knows our intents and motivations. This is not something to play with. Many undermine God's omniscience and will believe, say and do some of everything. Their rage is often covered by a thin veneer. "True Deliverance" is needed. You must learn to respond judiciously rather than react impulsively. There is a reason God says; "Be anxious for nothing but in all things through prayer and supplications with Thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of GOD which passeth all understanding shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." " Philippians 4 YES LORD!!! Discipline, patience and seeking the will & the way of God is key. This is true especially in the midst of a crisis. God holds each of us accountable for what we do and say in His Name.

I Thank God for setting me FREE! Freedom helps you be more concerned with your relationship with GOD rather than with what others think. Know this; God is not impressed by any of us. Without Him we are powerless... We access the power to accomplish His will for our life through His Holy Spirit that abides within us. God's Holy Spirit is also His Comforter that is able to lead us to all Truth. Time out for foolishness. In fact, MORE GOSPEL and less gossip! Many want "instant gratification." Learn to believe and trust GOD & HIS WORD! Life is serious and time is precious and so rewarding when you choose to live it to please GOD! I thrive daily to live before "An Audience of One!" There is a reason He says; "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness..." Matthew 6


Know there are those who have acquired mental weights and also believe in many superficial, superstitions and beliefs. Many of them have been passed down for generations. At times what is actually being embraced are derivatives of fraudulent ungodly religious practices that mimic holiness. Not really realizing that their minds have been captivated by erroneous cultural as well as pagan beliefs that serve to oppress, depress and hinder spiritual growth. Pray for discernment! For this also can make one susceptible to being under the influence of demonic forces that control and dominate their thought process and serve to magnify inner fears... Think about what being under the influence means.

I am beyond thankful that we can call upon the Lord 24/7 wherever we are! Know there is no influence, power or principality stronger than Almighty Omnipotent God!

To really provide spiritual counsel you have to seek God's direction and guidance above the ways of man. Psychology teaches many things are okay which actually go against the principles of God. It is important to know that the individual has the freedom to choose. Keep in mind it is their life and their choices they are sharing. You can still wisely counsel with anyone regardless if they are a believer or nonbeliever when you are trusting God. As a Minister you must learn to depend on God and be led by His Holy Spirit in order to lead, guide, direct and protect you. Not on theories or hearsay. DO NOT FOLLOW THE CROWD ESPECIALLY IN MINISTRY. We are always accountable to God. Know that there is a huge significant difference between Christian and secular counseling!

Life in the city is different from living in suburbia

The Lord had blessed us greatly at the time, my husband and I had a successful Professional IT Consulting Corp with many Professional Consultants. My husband is a well experienced 1st generation IT Professional in various executive corporate managerial capacities in the business arena... We also had four children in college and one in Middle school at one time… We together have traveled extensively around the world and had marvelous enlightening spiritual journeys. Our ministry was growing... My husband was also a well-seasoned multi-talented Minister of Music who actually ministered in music & The Word! We both had also been in Church all of our lives and I had worked in just about every department. But we knew that God had enlarged our territory. We knew that with God our boundaries reached beyond the box... Being raised in the city was helpful and had its advantages, but we did not want to raise our family in the city. We had moved to the suburbs now for quite some time... Yet, we with our family faithfully still continued to commute back and forth to worship services. God was our focus and Christianity was our daily lifestyle. This all served to give us a wide range of exposure to numerous varied facets of life and ministry. From, metropolitan, urban, rural to suburban there is a diversity of differences in the way people live, socialize, work and worship.

I knew the Lord’s call on my life at an early age and ministry as well as in Pastoral Counseling was my continued path of discovery… I thank Abba Father I/we had some excellent well-seasoned spiritual mentors as well who stressed to us the importance of firmly standing upon The Word of God.

Counseling in the shelter

It is important to KEEP in mind, God really does always know what is going on. If you are sincerely interested in the counselee or whomever it may be, He will and can make a bridge between you and the counselee. Yet, you are still only a small part of the healing process. Yes, we must always rely upon the Holy Spirit for direction. He is the indwelling God given Comforter. There were a lot of politics that took place in the shelter. What was quite interesting many of the residents became territorial. They were also very respectful of me they knew that I did not have to be there. I was independent and it was clear to them that I had no hidden agenda. Therefore, I settled many disputes between the staff and residents. I counseled and prayed with both staff and residents.

Together we planned transitional strategies. The staff worked many arduous stressful hours and often had hard long days. This further helped me with the counselees because I knew that the staff lived safely tucked away in their own various homes as well. I learned that nothing anywhere in this world that anyone does or says gets by the Lord. Rest assured there is absolutely nothing that happens that He is not aware of. What matters most is our intimate personal relationship with the LORD! GOD KNOWS EXACTLY who we all are, where each of us are or where we may be lacking and where we are strong... Truly God is more than able! As long as we are on this side of heaven there is more to learn.

Ultimately TRUE inner HEALING comes from GOD!

There is a difference between Secular and Christian Counseling

I was required to study many of the psychology theories and its founding fathers. There is much knowledge here. But, there are many concepts and theories in psychology that go against Christian principles. For example at the time I had to study the DSM-IV > Which is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders. It is what is known as the “Psychiatric Bible. It serves to broaden one’s knowledge on clinical language and facilitates diagnosis. Which may require psychotropic interventions… One refers here, in order to professionally label or should I say make a clinical diagnosis. This can at times I believe somewhat hinder one seeing the uniqueness of the individual and often rules out the spiritual element of their character... The DSM-IV actually contains a plethora of information on hundreds of possible mental disorders. I have respect for those who have labored and studied in the field of medicine. A Psychiatrist is both a Medical Doctor MD who is a specialist in mental disorders they can prescribe medications that Psychologists cannot.

As a Pastoral Counselor/Minister, I was required to have a relative educated understanding of the process… We as well in our practicum had lessons on evaluating & diagnosing many of the characters in the Bible as well and seeing how they could have possibly been perceived? Know this; most of the time they would have been unfavorable labeled by this criteria… Most would be thought of as a bit strange and some with mental disabilities, unloving, not kind, aloof, uncaring, impatient or severely depressed... There is much spiritual warfare around depression. It can be extremely severe for some. In some cases even deadly... I had to know about secular counseling methods to a knowable degree, but my interest was in the spiritual aspect and how its goal serves to bring about attainable “wholeness!” I have no doubt God can fill the void in anyone’s life like no other! However, this is not always an easy journey... I saw it time after time in the shelter. I also realized that many do not subscribe, respect, nor care to prescribe to this belief, nor believe in the Bible! Nor do they want you to tell them otherwise. No problem. Know this also, God never leads us to force His will and way on others.

Always Consult GOD

Being a Elder/Minister is not just a position that one turns on and off. It is a facet of our everyday lifestyle that requires us to constantly seek our LORD for direction in and about the public, in private as well as during worship... It is a "CALL" from GOD! "Praying without ceasing" becomes a cognizant state of mind. I have found in some places of worship the clergy can be very territorial. The plethora of denominations & non denominations vary in what they perceive to be proper protocol. Some tend to have a political viewpoint of ministry. And govern the congregation like it's their private country club or boys and girls club. They have their own particular regulations. Not at all like a Democracy but to a degree they operate more like a Monarchy and sometimes quite like a cult. There were also some in the shelter that had actually left the Church because they felt this way. Numerous times I explained that their experience was man's belief but not necessarily God's will & way.

There are some who want what their denomination has taught them, until you join you are not one of them... When you find this is the case, there really is not a need to offer assistance. They tend to compete for attention amongst themselves for approval and or positional opportunities since many others are present or who are assigned to step up to a task at hand. Some have many clergy members yet, only a select few can really do certain things? To some "The Pulpit" becomes their source of power to delegate who they deemed is qualified to participate because they will do as they are told. I have found in some cases it is better to observe rather than attempt to fit in.

When you know that God approves of you. Never compromise your values for approval. Know this Christ Jesus nor His Apostles/Disciples were accepted everywhere they went. Many overlook this. Neither did Jesus or His disciples build places of worship. It is a choice. I find it interesting that in some cities you can find a place of worship on every other block.

Always remember that our bodies as believers are the "Temple of GOD!" It is important that we know embrace and understand HIS DIVINE & HOLY WORD for ourselves. God will always make a way for His Will & His Way. Always keep in mind that Christianity really is a daily lifestyle. It is all about our ongoing ever-growing relationship with God through our Lord & Savior Christ Jesus!

I truly believe that the LORD recognizes and knows who we are wherever we are. You can sit in the pulpit, back, middle, front or side. What HE is most interested in is the posture of our hearts. Do not worry or fret about the "heart readers" who make it a point to see into your heart as if you cannot see where they are coming from. It is not really always about what someone sees you do... For GOD knows all of us from the inside out! It is always good to "PRAY WITHOUT CEASING" especially when you are in worship services... Do be mindful of what is going on around you. One must simply invoke and invite the infilling presence of HIS HOLY SPIRIT within us & all around us, as well as and PRAY for the good of all present. Most of all be led by the SPIRIT of GOD!

When we preach, teach, share and proclaim the WORD of GOD

My first sermon many years ago was preached on a 1st Sunday and 7 people actually joined the Church. I also had to oversee the serving of the Communion Service as well. I preached from the Book of Judges. I learned that it is important to consult the Lord and seek His will for He knows who is in the midst of worship. So, always allow the Lord to lead you rather than be led by what someone says is happening in or around the Church. I suggest; preferably don't have any discussion about the message before its delivered. To each His own. Pray for discernment to give a sound message that will encourage, convict, inspire, enlighten as well as strengthen all including yourself... Know that the Lord holds all of us accountable for whatever we do in His Name. I fear God not man or woman.

One must PRAY for DISCERNMENT due to the abundance of laxity in moral boundaries going on everywhere. There is a tendency for some to misinterpret one's actions. Yes, do learn how to guard your heart. I am thankful to have experienced many diverse types of worship. Some very quiet and serene, some inclusive of moments of quietness & loud joyful merriment, some simply entertaining & and some very loud & just boisterous and some vociferously emotionally charged... One must strive to find a balance. Most important one must be led by the Holy Spirit and whenever & wherever as true worshippers we must: "WORSHIP the LORD in SPIRIT & in TRUTH!"

The world is ever changing it is on "A Slippery Slope!"

There is a constant change in the world as to what is right? For one, I can remember when homosexuality was considered taboo! It was also classified as abnormal behavior. You were considered if I may say, perverted or "weird." Now, it is no longer considered by the American Medical Profession to be abnormal? We are able to see the results of what massive societal pressure can do. Now that men & women have “come out of the closet” it is widely accepted. Now since it is so prevalent within our society it is now known and supported as “an alternative lifestyle.” I suggest you search the Bible and see what God has to say.

This is quite interesting because, if you do not agree you can be considered to be homophobic if you are not somewhat supportive? I am not at all homophobic. I am supportive from the perspective if that is your choice, it’s your choice. Yet, I also embrace being conscious of God's Word. I believe all the Bible and I do not believe that same sex relationships should be considered the same as Marriage which was designed by God. God’s view has not changed! (I suggest you at least read Romans 1.)

Marriage in the eyes of GOD is HOLY MATRIMONY! Marriage in the eyes of God is also sacred and consists of; (1) one man and (1) one woman. This is what is sanctioned by God in His Word as marriage. I believe that we all will have to answer to God for our choices. What I find interesting is that now many want to have the same rights and privileges as marriage simply because of their sexual preference. Same sex relationships are a choice to have same sex relationships now legalized by man.


Now in this 21st century, the Supreme Court has even voted against the WORD of GOD and in favor of "same sex unions." I personally find this a bit disturbing. If this is your choice call it what it is “an alternative relationship” of the same sex. If you are not in agreement, you can be considered judgmental and uncaring and…. I also believe that this compromises our Christian Values, again however I realize that we all must answer to the Lord for our choices... I am "PRO MARRIAGE" GOD'S WAY! Just wait because pretty soon we are all going to be forced to accommodate "same sex unions" and other sexual preferences above our Christian beliefs... We have come a long way… But have we really? Just something to really think about!

Systemic Racism is real!

It is important to know that a lot of the original research for evaluations in psychology did not include taking into consideration the cultural differences nor spiritual beliefs of many People of Color. When anyone says racism isn't real or it no longer exist. Know that they do not have clue as to what they are talking about. They simply live in a place where they can avoid it, or they close their eyes to it. Systemic Racism is real! For example, let's look at some of the stereotypes. So, where you might be just being polite, patient and considerate it may be perceived as being distant somewhat aloof and unconcerned, or even passive… Where you might be disciplined and exercising self-control, you may be thought of as mechanical or distant.... If you speak confidently and fearlessly you could be considered delusional or arrogant! Or if you whoop or yell when you preach you are more spiritual and powerful? Hmm think about it? How much did Jesus whoop? I find that interesting. Because this is what is expected? Or if you talk about God too much you may also be a considered a religious fanatic…

On some occasions unspiritual outside worldly influences will come and inject their beliefs and practices into worship services. Some have a political agenda. Momentarily they can become distractions from the true purpose of worship. Quite often there are many undercover tactics used to divide and conquer within the midst of the minds of many minorities. Solely to keep you confined to your designated neighborhood but presented otherwise to help. Stereotypes are real. It is easy to make someone think another person thinks they are better than you or is looking down upon you. Once in motion they will automatically look for proof that this is true. This is also a result of labeling and racial profiling… This still continues today. MORE GOSPEL and less gossip! Know people do not come in grades like butter.

World Happenings

On another note, I also find it quite interesting the mass shooting that took place a while back on the military base at Fort Hood in Texas. Where a military trained Psychiatrist Nidal Hasan massacred many of his fellow soldiers! They were in a soldier readiness facility where the troops being deployed to both Iraq & Afghanistan received their last medical checkups? What about the World Trade Center bombings where so many lives were taken? Have you noticed the many senseless shootings and incidents regarding guns in our schools that have since occurred? Need I remind you of the bombings at the Boston marathon where so many were hurt? What about the horrific senseless shooting that resulted in the death of nine people during Bible Study?

This happened after a confused young man sat with them during Bible Study for over an hour in North Carolina then proceeds to kill them... And oh, what is also so disturbing so many more tragedies that continue to occur... All this has caused much fear and insecurity to dismantle our normal systems of life. Terrorism comes in many forms. The spiritual warfare has indeed heightened! We must daily seek refuge in the Lord. It is important to spend time daily in His Word. The Lord can and will impart His Peace to you!

The acquittal in the Trayvon Martin case caused many eyebrows to raise! How can a grown man who was told not to get out of a vehicle; do so anyway, then shoot and kill an unarmed seventeen-year-old teenage boy with a gun that he should not have been carrying on neighborhood watch and be found not guilty? He had a choice he could have secured his car by locking the doors and keeping the windows closed until "help" came! Just perhaps Trayvon Martin would still be living? Let us not forget the death of Michael Brown & Eric Garner and the many others... This is sheer madness no wonder so many are outraged! The lines of justice have once again continued to have been blurred. The senseless mass shootings continue to escalate... LORD HELP US!!!

Managing Stress

Stress management is important and needed regardless of who you are. No matter what station one reaches in life balance is always key! Extensive training does not mean that you are immune to anxiety, impulsive behavior and pressure. In my counseling practicum I was required to study and know to a degree what others believe that are non Christians. I therefore studied a multiplicity of religions. There are many many religions… God has given us much freedom. The beliefs of many differ greatly.

Always keep in mind GOD HAS only ONE CHURCH! This is also why the spiritual side needs to be addressed as to what do you believe about life, living, and how you value life! How you embrace and practice your beliefs are a huge factor in one's behavior.

Our true security & significance rests within our personal intimate relationship with the LORD! I personally BELIEVE that GOD is the GIVER and SUSTAINER of life and we do not have a right to take anyone's life just because...

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Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on July 11, 2015:


Thank you for stopping by to share. Be encouraged & Take Care!

May the Joy of our Lord be your strength. Lord Bless You Joann & Becky Always!

stars439 from Louisiana, The Magnolia and Pelican State. on July 09, 2015:

God bless you dear heart.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on October 07, 2010:

STARS, I am most THANKFUL for the Lord’s presence in my life! I am eternally grateful for a husband who truly loves the Lord and loves me as well! I believe in the Power of God it makes all the difference in the world. Things will always happen… But God is a sure anchor and Jesus Christ IS a sure foundation to carry you through! This is why I say TRUST GOD!

The Lord has taught me many invaluable lessons...I realize that there are still many more to learn!

Reaching to the homeless will always be a lifelong experience especially since it was done when it was not so popular…. However it taught me that when others don’t understand “GOD DOES!” It is during those times we must lean on Him… He will strengthen us and draw us closer to HIM!

It is a Blessing being married to someone who loves, trusts, understands you and KNOWS you… It is a gift from the Lord that is to be treasured! It will help you weather the storms of life as well as give you someone to share the Joys and Celebrations of life with as well!!! This is why I so encourage to commit with ALL your heart to and cherish the vows you made to one another and to the Lord….! There is much spiritual warfare going on to break up marriages and families….. But “what GOD has joined together, Let NOT man put asunder!” God is able and He is GOOD! Each day is a precious GIFT from Him therefore we must look to find something each day to be THANKFUL FOR! To GOD Be The GLORY!

It is PEACE when you KNOW the LORD knows your heart! We must draw closer to Him as we see that many in the world are moving further away from Him and HIS principles for living… May He strengthen you spiritually and physically in the NAME of JESUS! HE IS ABLE! The Lord Bless & KEEP you, Joann and Becky…

Thank you as always for sharing, In HIS Love, Joy, Peace & Blessings!

stars439 from Louisiana, The Magnolia and Pelican State. on October 05, 2010:

Dear Mr.s Deborrah : You and your wondeful husband have done so much good for so many. You reached out to the homeless when it was not such a popular idea to do so. You helped many people, and some that could have hurt you. Thoughts of the wonderful Mother Theresa enters my mind. So much giving with so much heart. You sent all your children to universities. You and your husband, your two hearts are so filled with serving others. Your joys come in helping others. How blessed our world is to have your kind hearts and love sent by Heaven. God is so wonderful by blessing us with you and your husband. How blessed he is to have a sweet heart like you. And How Blessed and wonderful he is for sharing your heart with all of us. Love and Hugs from All My Family And I. Forever yours, Lee, Becky, and Joann.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 20, 2010:

Scheng1, Thank you for visiting, I am glad you enjoyed the pictures, Blessings!

scheng1 on February 20, 2010:

Love the pictures very much. So refreshing for us cityfolks.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 20, 2010:

James A. Watkins, Thank you so much! Professor! I am humbled by your response, but I must say my experiences with the homeless truly did add another dimension to my life…

You are quite right! My greatest teachings continue to be via The Holy Spirit! I am eternally grateful for ALL He has brought me through, allowed me to see experience, learn and do… I see life as an ongoing adventurous journey and there is much more to learn…. I thank Him for His “JOY” and yes each and every day there is more He teaches me…. Really the more I learn the more I need to know…? Your visits are much welcomed and always appreciated! I always look forward to your excellent narratives! I look forward to your forthcoming Book! I know it will be extraordinary! In His Love & Blessings!

James A Watkins from Chicago on February 19, 2010:

Another awesome article. I should have known you have spent much time working with the homeless as you are surely a loving, kind, and understanding soul to all. I see you have learned a portion of this from experience and have the rest through your relationship with the Holy Spirit, who guides you and teaches you every day. Thank you for the pleasure of reading your words.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 15, 2010:

Nobody, I think you may be talking about the "Nouthetic Counseling Model" that deals with confrontation, concern and change? Confrontation in Christian Counseling usually comes from the principles in the Bible! It is really true you cannot really change what you do not do not confront...

You are right about taking a while to reprogram thinking... Many forget or discount "The GOD Factor" in counseling or when trying to resolve conflict...It is invaluable and really can accelerate the healing process tremdously... He truly is able!

Bob, I think that in your own way you counsel when you teach because your desire is to help others learn and apply rather than just "know something" I enjoy your splendid stories you share to get others to see, which encourages spiritual growth...

Thank you for sharing your insight. Your visits are always most appreciated and welcomed! In His love! Peace & Blessings!

Robert E Smith from Rochester, New York on February 15, 2010:

The Dr. that worked with the late Jerry Falwell's church, Jay Adams has a Christian Bible model counseling method that many folks including myself have studied. The psychiatric community is so quick to label something either a sickness or biological imparative that is jumps over sin, fleshly lust and desire of the fallen man. Yes it becomes a trap that many times takes a while to reprogram thinking but God is able to bring a person out of the mire and sometimes it doesn't take that long either. I never did become the counselor that I wanted to be because teaching was where I was called. But I admire those used in this manner to turn around a life that effects those of his circle and then his part of the world. One life saved has far reaching affects. Love you sister DeB. Bob.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 13, 2010:

Quildon, I am so glad you can relate... As a Christian Creation Therapist I realize the many advantages of Bible based therapy. I attempted to work along with Social Services but it was not well received at the time... There is a big difference between secular and Christian counseling...

Many are not aware; What is so wonderful in the "Indian" culture as part of their healing process they require and request a "spiritual counselor" who is familiar with their beliefs within their social services. They realize the significant benefits... I think if others begin to request Christian Therapy it may eventually become a part of the process?

You are right about the hopelessness and medication. Sometimes the medication brings about another dependency and becomes a quick fix. The underlying issues many times goes unaddressed Always keep in mind that the Lord knows your heart, whispering a sincere pray goes a long way! He will allow you to share with those who are receptive...

Thank you for visiting and sharing you have helped to further bring to Light some things that will help others.

Please do come again, In His Love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 12, 2010:

A M Werner,

Thank you for sharing your perspective and insight! I know this will be quite helpful to many who do not realize the many politics that take place between science & religion. You are so right about psychiatrist and psychologists this is why I felt the need to say something. They have their place and have worked hard and long to earn their status, But never underestimate the God factor in the healing process! The system is so eager to medicate and get someone under control… Thank you for taking it a step further. People were not made by God to simply be medicated so they are able to manage and train… It takes time to address people as individuals. If someone was to observe a person when they were having a bad day or one that was grieving over the loss of a loved one, they could easily be labeled and misdiagnosed… Once labeled it is hard to be seen as anything but that... But because I am a “professional” I am not to be questioned, and who are you? Just maybe you are delusional! It is not always quite to that extreme. But “I get it!”

Thank you so much for sharing your insight here. There is so much that could be said; but I think we have shared enough to help others get the picture who are not aware… May the Lord Bless you. I hope you take time to celebrate life with your family it can be quite taxing and overwhelming to see so many hurting and mishandled. What lessons you have learned as well as wisdom helping your Mom with your brothers….. On the other hand I am sure that you are also able to draw from the inner strength the Lord has gifted you with! It is wonderful how the Lord works to bring us on one accord. I too sense the understanding he has given you I this area… May His Favor & Peace rest upon you! In His Love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

Judah’s Daughter, Wonderful insight you have shared here! You are so right it is not going to get better…. It is a continual, gradual shift away from embracing godly principles. Worldly concepts and strategies are encouraged that cause further conflict... I agree about those not knowing the Lord experiencing a form of “torment.” There is so much to suppress and discount the importance of a relationship with the Lord! We really do have to depend on the Lord and the spiritual armor He has provided!

I absolutely Love Christian Counseling because your objective is to help facilitate the person becoming whole! The Counselor is committed to God and accountable to Him as well! Your agenda is not to label a person and then medicate or mass the issue or problem. Nor are you trying to manipulate them into being anything. You want to help identify their strengths and help them better discover the plan the Lord has for them. Focusing on the strengths will help over ride their weaknesses. “I can do ALL things through Christ that strengthens me” God wants us to become spiritually stronger…

Knowing that the Lord is aware of everything the Counselor Trusts Him and desires to be a conduit as an “instrument of help” during the therapeutic process... You can pray with a brother or a sister. Healthy boundaries are always a part of true Christian Counseling since there is always the possibility of a transference of emotions... It is never about control but guiding the client to move towards the Light where God’s Healing is possible!

Thank you for visiting and sharing your welcomed responses. It is healthy for us all to take personal inventory regularly since there is always room for improvement! It is wonderful to know the Freedom we have in the Lord because He always knows the sincere intentions of our hearts! It is His Will and WAY we seek above all else… Your comments will further serve to help others as well! You have helped to bring out some interesting points...In His love, Peace & Blessings!

Angela Joseph from Florida on February 11, 2010:

Hi DeBorrah,

I can relate to most of what you said in your hub. As a Christian and behavioral health therapist, I know there is a big difference in secular counseling and Christian counseling. And everyday as I work the patients and see their hopelessness and helplessness and know there is no one or nothing that can help them but God, I sometimes feel helpless. Because medication can only do so much. But I always try to mention something about God and when I see the person is open to it, I even pray with them. May God continue to bless you as you work for Him.

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

Skye2Day, Welcome Sis & Thank you! You are right about it never being a “dulls-ville in Christianity!” There is always somrthing… Sometimes we must as you say have to “jump” not knowing where it is going to lead. It is interesting what you say about “procedures” it is not all to rebel, but sometimes you just know it is the right thing to do… You can proceed after prayer knowing that the Lord’s presence is with us constantly! The Lord will never lead us to do anything that goes against His Will!

So glad to hear that David is continuing on sharpening his warrior skills for the Lord. I am sure that he will emerge a diligent soldier with you at his side. Prayers for both of you! Thank you for being the HP angel you are! Your Light is always shining brightly! Thank you for beaming it this way. You are always welcome here! Thank you for sharing, Much love & Blessings! To God Be The Glory!

It is in Him we have the Victory! Hugs & PEACE to you as well…

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

PeacenHim, Thank YOU for your heartfelt words! It is my continued prayer to live life His WAY! Although we know that this does not mean it is not without its challenges! We are forever growing… So glad that you are inspired these truly are some interesting times; however GOD is ABLE! Be encouraged! You are so welcome! Thank you for visiting and sharing, In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

Lady E, Thank you for sharing your insightful comments you always ad a welcomed dimension! Yes many invaluable lessons I have learned and many more to come!

The homosexual agenda is quite interesting and continues to move towards dissolving the validity of heterosexual marriages designed by God! It is insulting how many try and equate it with the equal rights movement… The idea that it is based on one’s sexual preference it in itself makes it an interesting issue! One must really think here…….

I am most appreciative of your kind words. As always it is a pleasure! You are a wonderful niece LOL Much love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

Itakins, Thank you for visiting! I would love to hear your long version comments? You always ad another dimesion!

So always feel free... Thank you for your kind comments and support! Thank you for sharing as always it a pleasure, In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

Saintatlarge, There are many lessons learned when your reach out to help others. It is wonderful that your place of worship is open to “ministry beyond the walls!” The Carnival of Hope seems like a wonderful thing to experience for everyone concerned! What a wonderful time of giving receiving and sharing. It appears you have a slice of Heaven with all the many diverse people of Color!

The results of the economic recession continue to greatly impact many. One never knows … I am sure that there is much more to come. This is why it is so important to have and encourage others to get to know the Lord! Jesus really does make ALL the difference in the world! God is the Giver and Sustainer of Life it is in Him only our true “security & significance” lies; God is FAITHFUL!

Yes we ALL will have to give an acoount to the Lord...Thank you for visiting and sharing your comments and wonderful insight! Please do come again, In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 11, 2010:

BK Creative, You are quite welcome, It never ceases to amaze me all the things that go on... I am sure that you see through the children the consequences... Be encouraged and may the Lord Bless you for your endeavors to teach and help others. Thank you for visiting your insightful comments are always welcomed. In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Save078, Yes we do! Thank you for stopping by to share, Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Habee, You are so right! Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to visit! In His Love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

godPreacher, It is wonderful once you realize that the Lord really does know your heart! This does not mean that life will not be without its challenges... But if we see them as opportunities to grow closer to Him we are able to grow spiritually! Yet, there will still be those times that we must realize that others may not quite understand... There are times after praying and sometimes fasting our direction forward becomes much clearer!

I so agree! It is God that equips us for the JOURNEY! Thank God for His Holy Spirit! Thank you for visiting and sharing, In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Jodi Unity, You are quite welcome! Thank you for sharng! Be encouraged! In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Creativeone, You are so right! Yes! We must "STAND" on the Truth! Thank you for visiting and sharing, In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Artin2010, I agree as you say; “I believe that a person striving to be in closer walk with God, has an advantage in helping people who have mental issues and those whom feel lost and without hope or faith in anything” This is very thought provoking! I believe since God made us who knows better how to help us become whole…

So nice of you to stop by. Thank you for sharing your wonderful insight and kind words! I agree there is much going on… I am so grateful that nothing gets by the Lord. Therefore we need to stay close to Him and in His Word. In His love & Blessings!

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 10, 2010:

Vladimir Uhri, You are quite welcome! Thank you for taking the time to stop by and share! In His love & Blessings!

Allen Werner from West Allis on February 10, 2010:

DeBorrah, this is a very well crafted, timely piece of work. I have been working in group homes for over twenty years - currently with people suffering from mental health issues including schizophrenia. I completely understand the battle with those devoted to the science and not the religion. I spent many years in management positions, warring with corporate owners who cared more about the cash flow then the client's needs. I have also dueled with many psychiatrist and psychologist who took ten minutes every 3-6 months (depending on the diagnosis) to evaluate patient conditions, examine their folders (which they hardly opened if ever), and play a guessing game of med changes with both types and doses. Most (and I am sorry to use the word but it does apply), most were so programmed into a certain idea of treatment, you could tell who their patients were just by looking at the med list because they basically prescribed everyone of their patients the same meds at nearly the same dosages. They idea that each was an individual client with special needs, and all the information staff was assembling over the months to assist in their treatment proved to be empty. The higher up I got in management, the more I learned about the insensitive mindset of many in healthcare. I helped my mother raise two younger brothers alone with Muscular Dystrophy. I knew best what it was like to be there every day, taking care of specific and necessary needs on a daily basis. Truth was, no one knows them like the people that work with them, and those who the most power to make decisions over their lives, are people who are hardly acquaintances - just professionals. While I have great empathy, I learned early on in life how to keep healthy boundaries. By choice, I refuse promotion and stay on the floor, working daily with the clients. I look at all the medication flow through these people are all I can think of is Proverbs 31:6. The homosexual issue is amazing in itself because more than half the people I work with currently are either bi or gay - and hetrosexuals are the minority. Wonderful hub, it hit so many more points that I can relate in this space. Peace.

Judah's Daughter from Roseville, CA on February 10, 2010:

I absolutely love psychology. Truly, this world is harsh and is waxing more self-centered every day, affecting the whole. People that refuse to know the Lord are in a form of "torment", for the powers that be are greater than mortal man. It causes those who are broken to run to the Lord and these trials will therefore build his/her faith! He who endures till the end will be saved! Times are going to get tougher, and we must know that our strength alone is not going to give us survival. Only God and His weapons of warfare will give us life!

Personally, I don't think the Fort Bragg situation was a mental case, but a carefully planned jihad move...but, that's just my opinion.

I think people who were or are enslaved to drugs experience what the world would call "mental illness" (paranoia, etc.) when indeed a believer would recognize demonic influence that can be healed through faith in Christ. Pharmakos (the poisoning of drugs) is also called sorcery in the Bible.

Christian counseling is so complete in that it meets the physical (flesh) and spiritual person as a whole. Carnal counselors wear carnal "glasses" and will be quick to prescribe "pharmacy" (pharmakos) medications to further exacerbate the issue (in my opinion). I have a Christian counselor and we PRAY together! I can talk about spiritual warfare and get counseled with a brother in the Word to stand firm.

Just so much to say ~ this hub is awesome and causes so much subjective thinking. God bless you as you continue in His ministry, sister!

skye2day from Rocky Mountains on February 10, 2010:

Hi sister Super hub. Really fantastic. God also blessed you with writing. You have many gifts. God has you working at large. There is never a dulls-ville in Christianity. I see Christ smiling on you. Your spirit is giving. You give Love, share love, show love. You are full of the light my friend. I am proud of you. Many do not take the 'jump' into the gifts Christ has for his children. He is an awesome God. My twin sis works with men and woman coming from prison. She is very spiritual and loves Jesus. The state does not care for her 'procedures'. You are right on there is an enemy. He is doomed and that is no lie. He knows it.

Since David has been in Salvation Army I have heard many stories. In my spirit I feel The Lord is going to direct him with 'street' people. It is just a feeling. I loved your hub. HP is blessed to have a darling as you in field. My Love and hugs. PS The crosses interesting picture. Where is that? You touched many areas in our fallen world. We do have lots of work to do sis. 'I am' is

in charge. We have hope and promise of victory. I pray others would come to that simple truth. Hugs + + +

peacenhim on February 10, 2010:

DeBorrah K.!! Outstanding Hub! I'm sure you are an incredible counselor as well. With the leading of the Holy Spirit, and your God given insight I am sure you have been able to help many. God is using you mightily as an instrument molded personally by Him and for Him. "With God we are forever changing and can be molded in His image as long as you are willing to submit to Him." "We are the clay on the Master Potter's wheel. And as long as you are pliable, moistened by His Word and flexible you can be molded and shaped in the image He sees fit. In Him there is ALWAYS HOPE!"

DeBorrah.....these words are so encouraging and speak Light and Life into our beings! Thank you for such an enlightening and thoughtful Hub. God Bless!

Elena from London, UK on February 10, 2010:

Wow, those were big lessons of a lifetime. I admire what you did and I'm sure you've sown a lot of good seeds and put light into people's hearts. I hope at some point in time you get to meet some of those you counseled. You might not remember them, but they will not forget you and will run to you to remind you and also let you know where they are now - in life.

The Homeless are people just like us. It's just unfortunate they don't have a place to live, but they all have hearts that need to be nourished.

Totally agree with you on the Homo issue. It's even incorporated into Equal Ops policy in London Colleges. Now there are Gay Christians, Gay Pastors... Hmmmmh! I'll just leave a full stop there.

Well done on the effort you put into changing lives positively. God Truly made you special.

I wish you were my Aunty. :)

Best Wishes.

itakins from Irl on February 10, 2010:

DeBorrah k-

I had written a long response to this brilliant hub-but the pc went awol -so I lost it.

Suffice it to say-you serve the Lord well:)Thank you so much .

Saint Lawrence from Canada on February 10, 2010:

Thank you for sharing DeBorrah. i am fortunate that i learnt from my parents at a young age what it was like to help the poor. These were people who were friends and neighbors and you were there for them. The church i now attend and do some small part in has as #1 in it's policy "Loving and Caring" and they come through with flying colours. We have many outreach ministries, some connected and many started and supported outside the church walls, and in the downtown core. We do much outreach for single moms and poor and in the summer have the Carnival of Hope, where we serve the less fortunate with a special day. This past summer on that day we saw more than 6000 people come through our doors. We gave away a semi trailer of food, racks of clothing, prizes from the carnival were ALL NEW tv's, DVD players, toys, etc, etc just too numerous to mention here. Childrens hair cuts, moms got spa treatment, nails and beauty care, even massages. We are a church of about 900+, and have more than 30 ethnic backgrounds represented from all walks of life. One woman who was just baptised (water immersion) was originally a survivor of a bombing in Iraq, bombed by US military. She was one of the directors and only survivor. She had a heart wrenching story. One of my concerns as a Christian is NOT to be counted with those who say, "But Lord, Lord did we not do this and this in your name, and he says, depart from me, because I DO NOT KNOW YOU!". Over the past year throughout North America we saw what can happen in just a short span of time. People walking away from homes everywhere, jobless and needy from all sectors. i live in a GM dominated city and the food banks could not keep up with the demand. Will we see worse in the future, it is quite possible. Imagine for a moment if a sudden drought overtook US and Canada, how much devistation that would cause. We at times have no idea how blessed we are and i belieive we will have to account for it as to what we did with what we were given.

Again thank you. Blessings L.

BkCreative from Brooklyn, New York City on February 10, 2010:

Thanks for sharing your experiences - they are enlightening - and overwhelming. Why do we live so poorly and in so much pain? And all the horrors of the disfranchised are visited on the children which for some reason remain invisible. As, a teacher, I cannot believe the horror stories I hear.

Always a learning experience to read your hubs!

saved078 from Central New Jersey on February 10, 2010:

We have to be availible to serve God.Anytime,anywhere.God bless your ministry.

Holle Abee from Georgia on February 10, 2010:

We always think we have it bad until we learn what others have gone through. Great hub!

godpreacher from Atlanta,Ga. on February 09, 2010:


God bless you for having the courage to share some of your learnings with us. I find my road not as difficult, when I read of others having gone through situations to be of help to God's people. I do know that God equips us for the journey. Thanks for sharing.

God Bless

Elder DeBorrah K Ogans (author) on February 09, 2010:

Unchained Grace, I am sure you do understand! It is really unexplainable the stories are endless I am sure you could write a book... It defintely increases your coping skills because you constantly see that someone is always worst off than... So you have less of a need to complain when things don't always go your way... You also realize that God really sees what you do or do not do and why? He becomes a very important "Audience of ONE" it really "Keeps it Real"...

My hat is so off to you... Thank you for visiting and sharing your very insightful comments as well as your kind words. Peace & Blessings! May The Force be with you!

Jodi_Unity from Flordia on February 09, 2010:

Thanks for the comment you left on my hubs. I love your writtings too, keep up the great work :)

God Bless

Benny Faye Ashton Douglass from Gold Canyon, Arizona on February 09, 2010:

Thank you Lady D, for a superb hub, it's true that the world choose to do things not according to Gods word, but being children of God , we have to stand on truth. Thank you for sharing. Godspeed. creativeone59

Art Wartenbe from Northwestern Florida, Gulfcoast on February 09, 2010:

Magnificent, excellent hub DeBorrah K. my jaw is on top of my shoes! I believe that a person striving to be in closer walk with God, has an advantage in helping people who have mental issues and those whom feel lost and without hope or faith in anything. More and more all around the globe people are living in fear and anger because they have no security in this life, nothing they can really call their own. Many people right here in America are struggling and juggling, wondering what tomorrow will be like. With so many in need of so much, those who work in the missions of helping people are simply overwhelmed in trying to make a difference in others lives. The best plan yet, is God's plan first, then plan actions to take to assist those in need. Don't plan, plan to fail is a truth to hard for many to grasp. It is possible to plan and still fail, but when God is part of the plan, chances of failure decrease tremendously. Amen Wonderful hub, totally wonderful!

Blessings Child of God, I'm sure you've touched many lives just on Faith alone. Thank you for sharing.

Vladimir Uhri from HubPages, FB on February 09, 2010:

Thank you for information I did not have an opportunity to have.

Unchained Grace from Baltimore, MD on February 09, 2010:

DeBorrah, Unchained Grace Ministries, LLC and Holy Truth Temple of Deliverance has been working directly with the homeless. Holy Truth since 1998 and Unchained Grace as of four years ago. I understand fully every single nuance of everything you said.

Churches who won't accept the homeless? Forget 'em. They aren't down with God's Word no matter what babbling comes from the pulpit. It is a hardcore ministry when you deal with the street people. Prostitutes, gangbangers, etc. I could tell you horror stories of what it's like here in Baltimore City. Nevertheless, God chooses those who can deal with it and will accept His teaching, understanding, strength and all that goes with it. DeBorrah, I can also see why you were trusted by the street people.

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