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It Is Against the Law to Be Homeless or To Help Homeless People In the USA! The Meanest Cities In the United States


Ms. Clark hopes to help bring better understanding and an end to hurtful, downright wrong stereotypes about poverty and homelessness.

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Warning! There are some very graphic photos posted in this article.

Just a Few of the Mean Cities In the USA

Cities all across the USA are making it against the law to be poor, and even against the law to help poor people!  This is the mini-list of those cities.

Cities all across the USA are making it against the law to be poor, and even against the law to help poor people! This is the mini-list of those cities.

James Kelley -- 9-Year Navy Veteran

James Kelley, 9-year Navy veteran, now homeless, being fined $500 for taking a partially eaten donut from a dumpster in Houston Texas.

James Kelley, 9-year Navy veteran, now homeless, being fined $500 for taking a partially eaten donut from a dumpster in Houston Texas.

Randall Kallinen, Civil Rights Attorney in Houston Texas

At the podium (center), Randall Kallinen is a Civil Rights Attorney in Houston Texas and has for years fought against laws that make the lives of homeless people even harder than they already are. He currently represents James Kelley pro bono

At the podium (center), Randall Kallinen is a Civil Rights Attorney in Houston Texas and has for years fought against laws that make the lives of homeless people even harder than they already are. He currently represents James Kelley pro bono

Mayor Annise Parker of Houston Texas

Mayor Annise Parker of Houston Texas who voted for and was instrumental in passing laws that outlaw homeless people in Houston so as to make the city more appealing to people of quality.

Mayor Annise Parker of Houston Texas who voted for and was instrumental in passing laws that outlaw homeless people in Houston so as to make the city more appealing to people of quality.

In the course of researching for this article to see if I could determine what city in these United States was the most hateful and mean towards those unfortunate people who are down on their luck, or who may never have had good luck to begin with, I discovered many different lists of “Meanest Cities in America.” Apparently the U.S. has become so mean that it takes several lists to contain the names of all the cities where mean laws against homeless and poor people have been passed.

According to dailykos.com, the Houston city counsel passed a law in 2012 making it against the law for anyone to give food to a homeless person, whether that homeless person was in a park or in a food kitchen set up specifically to feed the homeless people of Houston.

The same law made it illegal for homeless people to feed themselves with found food (usually from the trash). Dailykos reported that a homeless man was ticketed a week before they published their story on this subject and fined $500 for taking a partially eaten donut out of a dumpster. Five hundred dollars is the amount of the fine for persons who feed the homeless, or for the homeless who feed themselves inside the Houston city limits – the City Counsel lowered the fine down from $2,000 because of public outcry.

Randall Kallinen is a Houston attorney who has for years fought against laws that make the lives of homeless people even harder than they already are. Kellinen has taken the case, pro bono, of the 9-year navy veteran, James Kelley, who was charged with taking a partially eaten donut from a dumpster on March 7th, 2014.

Pro bono is an abbreviation of pro bono publico, meaning for the good of the people. Many people are not aware that most lawyers do some pro bono work, representing poor people at no charge. Kallinen says the city of Houston has taken a “hostile” stand against the homeless for many years.

A few members of the Houston City Counsel voted against ticketing and fining people for feeding the homeless or for the homeless feeding themselves, but for the law to pass the majority of counsel members obviously voted for the measure (vote was 11-6), as did the mayor, according to record.

There was a huge public outcry over the law that made even soup kitchens located within the Houston city limits against the law. However, not enough people in Houston had sufficient compassion for the less fortunate to keep the law from passing. Even those who did get involved lost their ‘heart’ for fighting it when the going got tough and so that law is on the books with a somewhat reduced fine attached.

‘“Civil libertarians, volunteer groups and religious leaders were opposed . . . saying the law "criminalized charity,”’ (Chron.com).

The Proud Houston City Council That Made It Against the Law For Food Kitchens or Anyone at All to Help Poor People Inside the City Limits of Houston

2014 photo of the Houston City Council with Mayor Annice Parker center in red jacket and pearls. These administrators have outlawed poor people from within the Houston city limits and likewise, charities or people from giving poor people food.

2014 photo of the Houston City Council with Mayor Annice Parker center in red jacket and pearls. These administrators have outlawed poor people from within the Houston city limits and likewise, charities or people from giving poor people food.

Noah’s Kitchen in Houston Texas Forced to Move Outside the Houston City Limits

Noah's Kitchen Executive Director Amber Rodriguez told The Christian Post that there are 13 and a half thousand homeless people in Houston and that the $500 fine would feed at least 750 people (Christianpost.com).

It was necessary for Noah’s Kitchen (as well as other charity groups that help the poor) to move outside the Houston city limits or pay the $500 fine every single time they offered a homeless person a cup of soup or a piece of toast. Yes, $500 for each and every offense. A second piece of toast to the same person would mean another $500 fine in addition to the first one! Yes, a hungry homeless person could quickly put Noah’s Kitchen out of business completely by simply eating 4-5 pieces of toast from that soup kitchen.

Clearly Houston does not want anyone to mistake that city for having even a sliver of compassion as they have forced all organizations that help poor people to move outside of that city’s limits. Expect Houston to expand their city limits regularly so to keep organizations that help poor people to stay busy spending money on moving expenses and forcing them further and further away from the people who need their help in Houston.

Forcing charitable organizations to be on the move constantly takes money away from funds for feeding the hungry. It would seem to be the intent of many Houstonites to do all they can to prevent what are described in the Bible (Matthew 25:45) as “the least of us” from receiving any help of any kind from anyone.

Marine Veteran Jerome Murdough Baked to Death in New York City Jail Because He Was Homeless

Jerome Murdough, Marine veteran, homeless, was allowed to slowly bake to death in his jail cell, by New York city jail authorities.

Jerome Murdough, Marine veteran, homeless, was allowed to slowly bake to death in his jail cell, by New York city jail authorities.

Homeless Marine Veteran Baked to Death in Jail for Being Poor

Several news agencies, including ABC News, Huffington Post, NY Daily News, Daily Mail, and the New York Times, to name a few, reported on March 19, 2014 that 56-year old homeless Marine veteran Jerome Murdough was jailed for trespassing in Harlem, and was then allowed to literally bake to death in his prison cell where he was jailed. Yes, the cell where Jerome Murdough was confined was allowed to heat to well over 100 degrees and Mr. Murdough died. He was allowed to swelter to death while being neglected by jail officials and employees.

“Jerome Murdough was just looking for a warm place to sleep on a chilly night last month when he curled up in an enclosed stairwell on the roof of a Harlem public housing project where he was arrested for trespassing,” (Huffington Post).

Mr. Murdough was considered mentally ill and was imprisoned in the “mental observation unit’ according to MSN News, which also reports that 40% of New York City’s approximate 12,000 inmates are mentally ill.

Since Mr. Murdough served for three years in the marines it is assumed his mental illness was a result of having given all for his country. His country, the United States of America, thanked him by allowing him to be without services for his mental illness, homeless, and finally the ultimate reward for a hero, being allowed to swelter to death in jail because of his afflictions.

Flashbang Devices

Examples of flashbang devices also called stun grenades intended to disorient the target.

Examples of flashbang devices also called stun grenades intended to disorient the target.

Do You Know?

“A flashbang is a type of explosive device (sometimes called stun grenades) that is designed to create a very disorienting flash and bang. It is classified among the grenade family of explosives, since it is designed to be activated and then thrown or launched before it explodes. Law enforcement . . . often carry flashbangs because these devices can be used to control groups of people without injuring them.”



“Albuquerque officers have shot more people than the NYPD, a department serving a city 16-times larger, since 2010, according to ProgressNow.”

Huffington Post

James Boyd of Albuquerque, New Mexico

James Boyd of Albuquerque, New Mexico.  Shot to death in the back while unconscious by police.

James Boyd of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Shot to death in the back while unconscious by police.

Man Shot and Killed by Police in Albuquerque New Mexico for Being Homeless

The Huffington Post reports that a homeless man, who was camping illegally in an open area in the Albuquerque foothills, was shot dead by police on Sunday, March 16, 2014, (Huffington Post).


James Boyd, 38, was first hit with what is described as a ‘flash-bang’ device when he turned his back to officers. The flash-bang device rendered him unable to stand up or control his body. While he was lying face down in the dirt, his body unresponsive, as viewed on video by this writer, two police officers, Dominque Perez and Keith Sandy, fired “multiple rounds” into Boyd’s back. There is blood splattered around Boyd’s head on surrounding rocks, (Huffington Post). View the video for yourself by clicking here.


It was not enough for police that Boyd was disoriented from the flash-bang device and rendered immobile. The police officers then shot Boyd repeatedly in the back while in that condition -- next they set a dog on him! The man was lying face down in the dirt, disoriented, and posed no threat. Or is being homeless now viewed as some sort of lethal threat? Especially to armed law enforcement?


All this because Boyd was homeless! It is also believed that he may have suffered from paranoid schizophrenia. Is this the new way of dealing with people who have mental disorders or who fall into plain bad luck?


“Despite overwhelming criticism to the shooting, the [police] department says its officers were justified, KRQE [CBS Albuquerque affiliate] reported. [Albuquerque Police] Chief [Gordon] Eden said the shooting was justified because Boyd was a "direct threat" to the three gun-wielding officers,” (Huffington Post).


UPDATE May 23, 2016: It has come to the attention of this writer that the 2 officers who participated in the murder of James Boyd in Albuquerque, New Mexico have been charged with murder. Dominique Perez and Keith Sandy (now retired) were videotaped executing James Boyd. This was reported on August 18, 2015 by NBC News, as well as other news agencies. The two officers are at this writing still awaiting trial.

3 Former Police Who Beat Kelly Thomas Who Later Died of His Injuries

One of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries.  Ramos was acquitted of all charges.

One of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries. Ramos was acquitted of all charges.

One of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries.  Cincinelli was acquitted of all charges.

One of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries. Cincinelli was acquitted of all charges.

Joseph Wolfe, one of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries.  Charges were dropped against Wolfe when his fellow officers were acquitted.

Joseph Wolfe, one of 3 policemen who beat Kelly Thomas who later died from his injuries. Charges were dropped against Wolfe when his fellow officers were acquitted.

Man Beaten to Death In Fullerton California by Former Police for Being Homeless

Kelly Thomas, a 37-year old unarmed, mentally ill, homeless man, was beaten unconscious on July 5, 2011, by two former policemen. The former policemen, Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli, were found not guilty of second-degree murder, and cleared of all charges relating to that incident on January 13. 2014. A third officer, Joseph Wolfe, was to stand trial after Ramos and Cicinelli, but since the first two were found not guilty, the prosecutor decided to drop charges, (Christian Science Monitor).

The incident where the three policemen tazed and beat the mentally ill homeless man with clubs and their fists wearing Latex gloves for nearly 10 minutes was video taped (33 minutes) by a surveillance camera. The mentally ill man repeatedly called out for his daddy to help him, along with screams of “I’m sorry,” and “I can’t breath.”

Kelly was taken to a local hospital in an unconscious state and never regained consciousness before he died five days later, July 10. 2011.

Clearly, homeless people are likened to vermin such as rats, and considered fair game for police to practice their uncontrollable anger and questionable training tactics on.

Kelly was unarmed, and offered no threat to 3 big, tough policemen, yet they felt threatened, they said. Citizens on the jury for Ramos and Cicinelli apparently agree that homeless people are disposable and that they are excellent specimens for police to practice their training in beating people senseless. Killing them, in the minds of many people is just another way of clearing garbage from the streets.

Of course people who never imagined it could happen to them sometimes find themselves homeless, and considered by some people like they previously did themselves, as trash on the streets. Then it is too late to have a change of heart and speak up for what is right. Then it is they who are the practice victims for anyone, not only police, who want to kill somebody just because they can.

Watch the video here.

Kelly Thomas Before

This is how Mr. Thomas, a schizophrenic homeless man looked before he was beaten.

This is how Mr. Thomas, a schizophrenic homeless man looked before he was beaten.

Kelly Thomas After

This is how Mr. Thomas looked after his beating as he lay dying in the hospital.

This is how Mr. Thomas looked after his beating as he lay dying in the hospital.

City Council of Pensacola Florida (2014)

2014 City Council of Pensacola Florida smiling broadly as they are proud to have passed laws forbidding homeless people to have blankets or to cover themselves with anything as protection from the cold or weather.

2014 City Council of Pensacola Florida smiling broadly as they are proud to have passed laws forbidding homeless people to have blankets or to cover themselves with anything as protection from the cold or weather.

Pensacola Florida Passed a Law Making It Against the Law to Have a Blanket or to Cover Oneself With a Newspaper As a Defense Against the Weather

It is also illegal there for a homeless person to use a public restroom for any purpose.

Apparently it is against the law for homeless people to eat in Pensacola Florida, and since they are not allowed to eat it is assumed they will not have use for a bathroom.

On February 10, 2014, jpmassar wrote for the dailykos, “There are people in the world who dream of curing cancer. There are people in the world who imagine living life in peace. And then there are the people who pass laws making it that much harder for the unfortunate to get by, who make it illegal for veterans with nowhere to go, those mentally ill with no one willing or able to help them, to wrap themselves with a blanket or a newspaper and try to get a few hours of sleep.”

The City Council of Pensacola Florida took up the issue of the blanket ban on February 14, suggesting that they would reverse it as a result of the public outcry by many of the citizens in that city. A repeal of the blanket ban failed to pass during that meeting, and has been blocked from being placed on the agenda since then.

After reading many news stories and much documentation on the subject, I came to realize that much of the U.S. population, though often lauded for their great generosity, are in fact hateful, judgmental, and heartless, towards people going through difficult times. How else would it be possible for these inhumane laws against poor people to be passed?

It does not seem to matter why any particular person is experiencing difficult times. Those people who are better off like to use the excuse that people are homeless and hungry because they are alcoholics or on drugs. For some reason there are people in our society who think it is acceptable to write people off who are mentally ill and not care at all if they are homeless, hungry, or in need of anything at all. My statistics professor was of that mind and said so before a class of 137 students.

My article, “Who Are the Homeless People of America,” explains who make up the unfortunate people in our midst who have fallen on extremely hard times. People abusing alcohol, drugs, or who are mentally unstable make up a very small percentage of the homeless. Even if someone is an alcoholic, drug user, or mentally unstable, is that cause or justification for leaving them to freeze to death or die of hunger?

We all know that if a person makes bad decisions or uses bad judgment that they get what they deserve. They must pay the consequences. That line of thinking works great until those people who are perfect and never use bad judgment or make bad decisions accidentally fall into that category themselves and discover that even their own perfect selves do in fact make the rare mistake or bad judgment.

But for the grace of God, any one of us might find ourselves homeless at some future date. As Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” People should think about that when they are imagining they know what someone else deserves and that they are themselves somehow better and more deserving of good things in their lives than someone else who is not having such good fortune.

You Can Go to Jail for Being Homeless and Poor In the USA

More and more cities are passing laws against being homeless.  If a homeless person doesn't have the good sense to just die, they will be put in jail for their horrendous crime of being poor.  Is there even a vague chance YOU, could end up homeless?

More and more cities are passing laws against being homeless. If a homeless person doesn't have the good sense to just die, they will be put in jail for their horrendous crime of being poor. Is there even a vague chance YOU, could end up homeless?

Palo Alto California Has Recently Made Sleeping In a Parked Car or Outdoors In a Public Place Against the Law

Anti-homeless laws have become the norm in the United States it would seem. There is no place for homeless people to exist legally. I guess they are supposed to kill themselves so that the better citizens of any given location do not have to suffer even knowing they exist.

Indeed, if the homeless and poverty stricken people do not quickly eliminate themselves they will be thrown in jail for offending the aesthetic sensibilities of the better off. After all, if one has stolen their millions fair and square, they should not have to be exposed to the uglier realities of life that they have themselves created with their greed, should they?

How did some of the wealthy among us who are responsible for these homeless laws steal their millions? Well, Wal-Mart does it by not paying a fair wage and expecting taxpayers to subsidize their payroll with food stamps and Medicaid for their employees so that the esteemed Walton family does not have to pay respectable wages.

Since the Walton Family is worth only a few billion dollars, is it really reasonable to expect them to pay a living wage to their employees? How awful if one of them would have to sell one of their vacation homes as a result. We would all carry that guilt for the rest of our lives if we thought for a second we had brought about such an horrific consequence by demanding fair treatment and wages for Wal-Mart employees would we not?

I recently saw testimony where McDonald’s forces their employees to work off the clock or where employee time sheets are adjusted lower to save the franchisee money. There are many articles online about this McDonald’s practice. Here is just one by CNN Money.

All through California fewer and fewer services are being made available to poor people. Homeless shelters are popping at the seams and people are continually turned away from the overcrowded shelters at their own peril, because if they cannot find a way to fit into a shelter where they have been forbidden entry as a result of the shelter being overcrowded already, then they will be hauled to jail if they are discovered sleeping in public or in a parked car – essentially for daring to continue to live while at the same time being poor to the point of destitution.

Many of us have heard about the terrible crime of driving while under the influence of being brown or black. Well, now we have new laws that make it illegal to be alive regardless of color, while at the same time being poor, and especially homeless. How long before police are authorized to shoot homeless people on sight?

It Is Against the Law to Be Poor In Many Cities Across This Country

So imprisoning people for being mentally ill has turned out to be a gateway solution to imprisoning people who can’t function well in the mainstream. Now, in addition to making it a crime to be mentally ill and jailing mentally ill people instead of medically treating their disorders, cities across this nation are making it a crime to be poor or mentally ill.

These cities imprison people for being poor when they could instead create programs to help people find temporary housing and jobs, but that would suggest the weakness of compassion, would it not?

We already have the largest most populated prison system in the entire world. Soon everyone except a few wealthy people will be in prison as we gradually make any imperfection or bit of bad luck a crime. Where does it end? How long before you are imprisoned because something about you or your life that you cannot control is made illegal?

There are inhuman people among us, but we need not, indeed should not, let them make the rules.

It seems like poor people are expendable like fast food wrappers. You all but never hear about them on the television or radio news even though there are thousands and thousands of them in this richest nation on earth. You all but never read about them in the newspapers – for those few people who still read.

Everyone wants to pretend poor people, homeless people, do not exist, and that our economy is fully recovered for those people -- the better people in this country -- who matter.

No one wants to think about or talk about homeless people or poverty. Everyone has a simplistic answer to how homelessness can be addressed and ended. Yes, if people would just learn a skill, a trade, or get a college education there would be no homelessness people among us, so some people believe. Many people in our society already believe the only reason there is homelessness is because people are too lazy to snap their fingers and make a job appear.

Currently, thanks to the Great Bank Heist of 2008, despite the rosy reports on the television news (Huxley called it soma), many of the homeless people in our country living in tent cities with their families do in fact have college educations and/or skills or trades.

Would Forcing Homeless People to Accept Minimum Pay Jobs Solve the Homelessness Problem?

Some people think the reason educated or skilled people remain jobless and homeless is because they are unwilling to accept work that pays only the minimum wage. Tell me, those of you who believe this, how is accepting a job at minimum wage going to help the situation of a homeless family?

It is true that homeless people will no longer be jobless if they accept a minimum pay job, but those people will still be homeless because they will still not be able to take care of themselves much less a family with the meager earnings of a minimum wage job. It is impossible to find an efficiency apartment that a minimum wage employee can afford even in a neighborhood where you would not leave your dog.

If one cannot even afford an efficiency apartment in a high-risk neighborhood on minimum wage pay, how would a minimum pay worker manage to get an apartment or rental home big enough for a family on that pay? So the homeless issue would not be resolved by putting all the homeless people to work for the federal minimum wage, which is currently $7.25 an hour.

No need to take my word on this. Whatever you are currently doing, quit it. Get a job at a fast food restaurant (or other) for the minimum wage, 20-30 hours a week as is the average, and do your own research. See how far that paycheck goes for you every week. No fair cheating by using savings from your previous high-pay job or borrowing from relatives or friends. Scout around for a place to live that is affordable on your hundred dollars a week or whatever you have left after withholding taxes. Yes, even poor people have to pay withholding taxes. If and when they get a refund it will not be for months in most cases. The rent is usually due long before those months elapse.

Most people who are homeless ran out of unemployment benefits long ago, so that is not their reason for not accepting a minimum pay job. Further, I personally know from experience that once someone accepts a low-pay job that requires little or no skill or education, most employers are not willing to consider that person for more responsible better paying jobs. In fact, most employers still will not even consider hiring someone who is not currently employed.

Things You Can Do to Help Poor and/or Homeless People That Cost Little or Nothing

People have more excuses than there is space here to list them all, for not helping the less fortunate.

Sometimes writing your congressman or woman regularly and telling them to stop arguing over gay marriage and abortion, and to stop wasting tax dollars (millions of wasted tax dollars at this time) trying to repeal ObamaCare for the 52nd time (or are we on number 53 now?) is better than doing nothing at all.

No, one letter is not likely to make a difference. Write them every week, and actively encourage your friends, family members, coworkers, and neighbors, to do the same. If that is all you can do, it is better than doing nothing at all.

Write the letter in long hand and mail it. Letters of this kind carry far more weight than emails or phone calls, because Congress members know you care enough to take the time to write it out and put a stamp on it and take it to the post-office. That tells them you mean business.

Get involved with the homeless shelters, soup kitchens, and food pantries, in your area. Maybe you can help collect food or blankets or toothpaste or shampoo for those people who need those things even if you cannot afford to contribute money.

One thing everyone can do is protest LOUDLY when their city attempts or succeeds in passing ignorant mean spirited laws against poor people simply for being poor. Just because a law passes does not mean citizens must lie down and play dead and accept that law. Get it repealed.

Work to get the people who passed that law out of office at the first opportunity and promise any future office holders they will get the same treatment if they dare to even suggest continuing or reinstating such a law. If the unfairness and mean spiritedness of such a law is not incentive enough for you to work for its defeat or repeal, consider that one day it could well apply to you or someone you care about. Then again, I guess a person who favors such a law would not have anyone in their lives they care about . . .

Wealthy people and business owners want these laws because they believe the presence of homeless people in their city gives outsiders a bad image of that city, not to mention that it is difficult to imagine such people do not exist if you see them on the streets on a regular basis. Many people sleep better when they can successfully pretend homeless people either do not exist, or that they deserve to be in their situation. Making homeless people criminals can go a long way in accomplishing this mindset for a lot of people.

Wealthy people and business owners are all but always the minority. Overrule them with your majority of ordinary, average, compassionate people, and let them know that if you hear even a whisper of them favoring laws that make being poor a crime that you will never set foot in their establishment again. Not even if you must drive a hundred miles or more to get what you need. Let them know that your word of mouth advertising for them will not be beneficial either.

Sadly, the only thing these people care about is money, so their bank account is where you have to hit them. They care nothing about people, or they would never even conceive such an idea, much less support or establish a law that makes being poor a crime.

Mean Cities Across the USA – Is Your City Listed Here?

The following list of mean cities is from the National Homeless Organization (2004, so a lot of cities have no doubt been added that are not listed here). Listed alphabetically, these are cities that have made it illegal to be homeless, and illegal to help homeless people.

The severity of meanness in these listed cities varies somewhat from one city to another. To find out just how mean a particular listed city is, click here.

Dallas, Philadelphia, Orlando, Las Vegas, and New York City, are just a few of the cities across the United States that have made it illegal, as in a ticketing, arresting, or jailing offense, to be poor and/or homeless, or to give money or food to a person who is poor or homeless.

While you are writing that letter to your senator and congress person every week, why not write one to a different city council member or mayor every week too? Let them know how mean spirited and heartless it is to have laws that punish the unfortunate for being poor and/or homeless. Anyone who thinks it is not sufficient punishment in itself to be poor or homeless has never had to go without anything they really needed.

Mean cities included on this list, but not limited to:

A -- Albuquerque New Mexico, Anchorage Alaska, Amarillo TX, Asheville North Carolina, Ashland Oregon, Athens Georgia, Augusta Georgia, Atlantic City, New Jersey, Avondale Illinois,

B -- Bakersfield California, Baltimore Maryland, Beaverton Oregon, Billings Montana, Birmingham Alabama, Boston Massachusetts, Boulder Colorado, Bradenton Florida, Buffalo New York,

C -- Charleston South Carolina, Charlotte North Carolina, Cheyenne Wyoming, Chicago Illinois, Clearwater Florida, Cleveland Ohio, Colorado Springs Colorado, Columbus Ohio, Corpus Christi Texas, Covington Kentucky,

D -- Davenport Iowa, Dayton Ohio, Daytona Beach Florida, Deland Florida, Denton Texas, Denver Colorado, Detroit Michigan, Detroit Oregon, Durham North Carolina,

E -- Eau Claire, Wisconsin, El Cajon California, El Paso Texas, Elkton Maryland, Encinitas California, Escondido California, Eugene Oregon, Eureka Springs Arkansas,

F -- Fairfield California, Fargo North Dakota, Flagstaff Arizona, Fort Myers Florida, Fort Smith Arkansas, Fort Worth Texas, Frederick Maryland,

G -- Glendale Arizona, Grand Junction Colorado, Greeley Colorado,

H -- Hallandale Beach Florida, Havre Montana, Huntington West Virginia,

I -- Idaho Falls Idaho, Indianapolis Indiana, Ithaca New York,

J -- Jacksonville Florida, Jeffersonville Indiana,

K -- Kalamazoo Michigan, Kansas City Missouri, Kansas City Missouri, Kissimmee Florida,

L -- Lakewood Colorado, Lawrence Kansas, Lexington Kentucky, Lexington Township Michigan, Lihue Hawaii, Long Beach California, Longmont Colorado, Longview Washington, Louisville Kentucky,

M -- Madison Wisconsin, Martinsburg West Virginia, Memphis Tennessee, Miami Florida, Middletown Connecticut, Minneapolis Minnesota, Mobile Alabama, Modesto California, Myrtle Beach South Carolina,

N -- Naples Florida, New Orleans Louisiana, North Las Vegas Nevada, Norwalk Connecticut,

O -- Oakland California, Ogden Utah, Oklahoma City Oklahoma, Olympia Washington, Omaha Nebraska, Orlando Florida,

P -- Pahrump Nevada, Palm Bay Florida, Pasadena California, Phoenix Arizona, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, Plymouth Massachusetts, Pontiac Michigan, Portland Maine, Portland Oregon, Portsmouth New Hampshire, Providence Rhode Island,

R -- Raleigh North Carolina, Rapid City South Dakota, Redondo Beach California, Reno Nevada, Richmond Virginia, Roanoke Virginia, Rochester New York,

S -- Sacramento California, Salem Oregon, Salt Lake City Utah, San Bernardino California, San Diego California, San Jose California, San Juan Puerto Rico, Santa Barbara California, Santa Cruz California, Savannah Georgia, Scottsdale Arizona, Seattle Washington, Sioux Falls South Dakota, Sonoma County California, South Lake Tahoe California, Spokane Washington, Springfield Massachusetts, St. Augustine Florida, St. George Utah, St. Louis Missouri, St. Petersburg Florida, Suffolk Virginia, Syracuse New York,

T -- Tacoma Washington, Tallahassee Florida, Tampa Florida, Tempe Arizona, Toledo Ohio, Trenton New Jersey, Tucson Arizona, Tulsa Oklahoma,

U -- Union City California,

V -- Venice California, Virginia Beach Virginia,

W -- Washington District of Columbia, Woodinville Washington.

The Living Bible, King James Version, Matthew 25:31

31 – “But when I, the Messiah, shall come in my glory, and all the angels with me, then I shall sit upon my throne of glory.

32 – And all the nations shall be gathered before me. And I will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats,

33 – and place the sheep at my right hand, and the goats at my left.”

34 – “Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

35 – For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water; I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes;

36 – naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me.”

37 – “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink?

38 – Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you?

39 – When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?’

40 – “And I, the King, will tell them, ‘When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!”

41 – “Then I will turn to those on my left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.

42 – For I was hungry and you wouldn’t feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn’t give me anything to drink;

43 – a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.”

44 – “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’

45 – “And I will answer, ‘When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me.’

46 – “And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life.”

More On Poverty & Homelessness from Au fait


Think Progress Organization on Pensacola Blanket Ban


Forward Progressives on Pensacola Blanket Ban


National Homeless Organization list of mean cities


Christian Post


The Economic Collapse Blog


Dailykos on Houston’s Laws against the Homeless


Georgia law that allows sexual preditors to hang around schools


MSN News on Jerome Murdough


Criminalization of Charity as well as poverty


National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty


Against the law to sleep in a parked car or on the street in LA & Many other cities


Huffington Post on Albuquerque man killed by police for being homeless


Christian Science Monitor




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C E Clark (author) from North Texas on September 16, 2020:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Peggy Woods. Agree with you, but there seems to be no help coming. Democrats passed another "Heroes" stimulus bill back in May, but it's sitting on McConnell's desk along with hundreds of others, collecting dust.

If Trump is reinstalled in the Oval Office after this next election, I fear the Great Depression will look like a paradise compared to what we're going to be in for. Lots of families will be living in the streets, and elderly too. Don't forget, Social Security and Medicare will be on the chopping block. That's all some people have and Trump vows to take even that away.

Hope you and your husband are staying safe . . .

Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on September 10, 2020:

I am fearful that the way the pandemic has been addressed in our country and the economic impact with many family-owned businesses shutting down for good, plus more people without jobs, there may be more homelessness on the near horizon. It is a sad situation! Many people do not even have enough food to eat, much less pay rent. We are experiencing shades of the Great Depression. It is going to take a concerted effort on the part of the government, private industry, families pulling together, and charities to dig our way out of this mess.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 22, 2020:

Peggy Woods, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Yes, getting their lives stableized so they can get on with finding work and getting back on their feet will be the biggest help they could get.

Keep in mind that many employers won't give homeless people the time of day. They don't even seriously consider hiring them. Just as after the crash applications from people not currently employed were ignored. Some employers even said in their job ads that they wouldn't consider unemployed people so not to waste their time applying.

It's pretty hard to start over when everyone is against you. Amazing how so many people think it's just a matter of snapping one's fingers and good paying jobs simply appear.

People don't seem to have any problems with government giving out millions of dollars in subsidies to big oil, corporate farms, or other big businesses, every year, but give $140 in food stamps to a poor person down on their luck and people scream bloody murder. I guess some people aren't aware that big business is BIG because it already has millions, if not billions of dollars, and really doesn't need government "hand outs." Yes, help the poor wealthy folks and throw the poor people to the dogs as they deserve.

I understand (I've read) people aren't just one paycheck away from being homeless anymore. No, it's even less than one paycheck nowadays -- and rent is so high these days.

Glad to know CA is helping some of their people out. I've sort of been keeping up with the homeless situation out there. Hopefully good solutions for all involved will be found.

Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on January 18, 2020:

Homelessness is such a sad situation and one that seems to be getting worse rather than better.

One bit of good news that was reported on the nightly news was a city in California ( I think it was San Jose ) is going to start housing many of the homeless in trailers. That would be a step in the right direction. We probably have a great number of FEMA trailers that currently sit vacant and could be put to good use.

If they use them like that, the people housed would also need job training and food assistance until they can get back on their feet. I hope that will be the case.

Lester L Fung on January 11, 2019:

In Hawaii the City Council were trying to establish the Housing First program for the Homeless but they were also trying to create laws to make them criminals for urinating in front of businesses I thought that the arrest or ticketing was a unfair law because it contradicted itself by first saying you want to put them in housing and then come up with a law to arrest or ticket them so I stood up for the homeless and went before the City Council to plead this case. The Mayor came out with a statement saying where is the compassion on the City Council. The people in Wahiawa as I talked with them tried to influence me into creating a drug test for the homeless or people applying for Welfare. I felt very discouraged about my stand on such a topic that I simply gave up and didn't want to win the race for State House of Representative.

The object of creating laws is not to create one law or program and contradict it by creating a harsher law. People in Hawaii think I support Homeless people but I support equality and justice for those who abide by the Law.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 23, 2017:

Shyron, thank you for stopping by. Homelessness has already increased since Trump's election and inauguration.

I do think people will be brought up short in many cases when the puny tax cuts people of modest means receive from the recent tax bill expire in 4 years. Unlikely those marginal tax breaks will amount to much, and less likely they will be reinstated once they run out 4 years from now.

But those people who don't understand that's how it's going to work will be euphoric enough for now to elect still more conservatives who will give them more of the same.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on December 18, 2017:

Au fait, it looks like many of us will end up homeless in the next few years with the tax reform pill passed and it will be a bitter one.

Hope all is well with you.

Blessings and hugs dear friend.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 19, 2016:

Colorfulone, thank you for reading at least part of this article and for taking time to comment. I want everyone to know about the horrific things that people, including public officials, are doing to make life a difficult for homeless people as possible. Homeless people already have a world of problems and the last thing they need is laws passed to make their existence illegal. I hope enough people will become angry reading this so that these laws will be reversed.

Susie Lehto from Minnesota on July 14, 2016:

This is very bad news. People running this country have gone nuts and lot compassion for their fellow human beings. I could only read about half of your report because it makes me sad and angry.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on May 23, 2016:

Peggy W., thank you for coming by and sharing this article. One of the biggest problems is stereotyping. Everyone has a picture in their mind of what they think a homeless person looks like and what they're like. Stereotypes hurt people whether they are applied to ALL women, ALL African Americans, ALL LGBT people, ALL Hispanics, ALL disabled people, or ALL homeless people.

So many people seem to be of the mindset that people who live in boxes (houses/apartments, etc.) are somehow BETTER than people who don't live in boxes, but in tents or vehicles if they're lucky enough to have one.

Another problem is that most of the people who administer programs for homeless people have never been homeless or even poor in their entire lives, yet they are considered better qualified to advise homeless people than someone who has been homeless and who also has the required qualifications for administering services to the poor.

At least one of the food pantries here in town has all but nothing for homeless people. Everything they give out has to be mixed, stirred, and/or heated. Then it's such a large amount that excess must be stored or thrown away. Homeless people don't have portable refrigerators.

It's good to help poor people who are still fortunate enough to have a roof and a kitchen, and to prevent them from ending up in the street, but the people who have already ended up in the street need help too.

Making laws against helping homeless people, laws against standing/sitting/or lying on sidewalks, or sleeping in a car do not help homeless people. Laws that make it illegal to wrap a blanket around oneself in pubic are stupid. Those laws are mean spirited from the get-go.

I'm truly surprised these asinine mean spirited people don't pass a law making it illegal to breath air if one doesn't have a bank account with at least $200 in it. Not a lot of money, but more than most homeless people have in their possession. You have to admit if homeless people could not legally breath it wouldn't be long and the problem would be solved.

I sometimes wonder what will anger God more. The fact that so many self-described Christians treat poor people so badly, refusing to help, or the fact that they dare to do their evil in His name.

Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on May 17, 2016:

It looks like you have added information to this hub since I first read it. Such a sad situation. There are good people who try their best to help the homeless. Each and every situation regarding the homeless is different and the causes are many. Your hub is a wake up call. Will share once again.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on September 11, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for sharing this article again. Indeed, the only people still being discriminated against with the blessing of 99% of the people are homeless and poor people.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on September 05, 2015:

Au fait, I came back to share this again, so everyone can see the dire situations homeless people can be brought to light.

Blessings and Hugs

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 14, 2015:

Pumpkincat210, thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this subject. In fact it is illegal to be homeless in many communities across this country as I've written about here.

There have always been selfish, mean spirited people who think compassion is a Commy Pinko word. They just happen to have the majority in both Houses right now and they have the louder voices.

Courtney Rhodes on July 13, 2015:

thanks for taking the time to write this. homelessness in the u.s. is very well covered up until you know someone that is. even "couch surfing" is too common, even though some of those people work. compassion for anybody homeless or not is nearly illegal how did this come to pass?

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 10, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for taking time to comment and vote on this article. Things unfortunately are not improving for homeless people or poor people. They say the job situation has improved, but I fail to see it. I know lots of people who still can't find jobs.

Be prepared to take extra precautions with the high temps that are about to arrive. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on July 09, 2015:

I came back to re-read this. I just realized that the greedier a person is the more they think that poor people do not have the right to breath, but they are against abortion. What a contradiction.

I hope all went well yesterday, I was thinking about you.

Thumb-up UAI and shared

Blessings and Hugs

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on June 19, 2015:

Alphadogg16, thank you for reading/commenting on this article! Frankly, I think people use these things you mentioned as an excuse that they believe justifies their do nothing attitude.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that not even 1% of homeless people are walking around with thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars in their pockets. For one thing, it would be dangerous. Just wearing shoes can be dangerous in the homeless world because someone may need them and be willing to kill you to get them.

I don't believe someone with thousands of dollars would choose to be homeless unless he had psychological issues. I hope you aren't one of those like one of my former professors who believes people with psychological disorders should be ignored and written off because you believe they have no value in our society.

I'm not one to put a lot of faith in gossip. Unless I see this man with my own eyes and observe his wads of cash in his pockets or see a bank statement with his name on it stating all that money belongs to him free and clear, I'm inclined to think somebody made it up as an excuse for doing nothing to make things better.

Lots of people hate poor and/or homeless people and do everything they can to make their lives harder than they already are. For some reason those people who believe themselves to be morally superior (good Christians every single one) believe God put homeless people on this earth to sneer at, kick, spit on, beat up or beat to death, or set on fire for the entertainment value. Read my other articles on this subject. All of these things happen regularly around this country.

Jesus said when you are helping the least of the people in society you are helping Him. What will be your answer when He asks you why you didn't help Him?

I know there are charlatans out there giving truly homeless people a bad name. I can often recognize them because they are dressed very nicely, wearing perfectly applied makeup and a perfect manicure (in the case of the females). I have been in contact with a lot of homeless people in the last few months, and I have learned to know the difference most of the time. Very difficult when one is living in a tent, a car, or under a bridge to look all spiffy, no wrinkles in one's clothes, every hair in place, etc.

Did you know that about 44% of homeless people have jobs, but don't make enough to pay rent and security deposits, and all that 'stuff?' Many jobs are no longer full time and the minimum wage is the order of the day. That is largely due, IMHO, to having destroyed the unions. Now private employers and the government no longer have to compete with fair union wages. Now private employers can compete with each other to see who can pay the least. With so many people desperate just to survive, they get away with it.

It isn't easy to qualify for food stamps or medicaid, or unemployment, for that matter. Everyone who believes poor people have it made should waste no time in giving everything they have to charity, quitting their jobs, and being poor so they can get everything they want for free with no effort exerted, no strings attached. What an education awaits them! Even that education won't be free, and may come at a very high price.

Have you ask yourself whether or not the corporations (most are multi-million dollar ventures) we subsidize indeed NEED our tax dollars? Or do you think they're deserving, unlike lazy slothful individuals who just don't want to work?

Food stamps and other pubic assistance programs are on the Republican list to be cut even more this fall. Most people on food stamps are elderly, handicapped, and/or children. Yes, and our enlisted military people are on that list too, or were if they haven't been cut already.

Surprising how many self described good Christians just hate paying their $30 a year so poor people can have some dry rice and dry beans. Several states have recently passed laws about what can be bought with food stamps and even canned beans are not allowed.

It's been nearly 7 years since the crash of 2008 when bankers were given bonuses for creating this mess. When will anyone think it's time those bankers were held accountable for the parts they played in creating so many homeless people including children? They literally stole 7 Trillion dollars from Americans and tax payers. That's real money. Why is everyone so focused instead on the poor schmuck who gets $139 a month in food stamps instead of the perpetrators of this heinous crime that destroyed lives all over the world?

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on June 18, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for coming by. As most governments readily admits, the problem of homelessness is not going away. It is in fact growing even as the economy is said to be improving. I read in our local paper that thee are at least 5,000 homeless veterans in Denton County alone, and that doesn't include non vets.

Put your feet up and stay cool --both of you . . .

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on June 17, 2015:

Stephiesmith92, agree with what you say. If no one objects, nothing changes. Thank you so much for stopping by and taking time to read and comment.

I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I only discovered your comment las' night. For some reason I wasn't notified I had received it and it was only in looking at a more recent comment that I was notified about that I saw yours here. HP is fully in charge of that, but I am so sorry I didn't see it sooner. It happens every so often for who knows why? Thank you again, and I hope you're having a great week.

Kevin W from Texas on June 17, 2015:

I think they are passing the laws because there are always people that take advantage of any situation. I recently read an article where a "homeless" man had 60k dollars on his person. Just as people abuse the welfare system, there are simply people that don't want to be an adult and prefer to be taking care of. So its kind of a double edged sword, I'm sure there are many homeless people that really have hardships and require assistance and then there are some that really don't and choose to live that way. It's difficult to distinguish the two.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on June 16, 2015:

Au fait, this is an awesomely sad article. I felt compelled to come back to reread and share this again.

Blessings and hugs dear friend.

stephiesmith92 on June 08, 2015:

This was really sad to read through. People turn a deaf ear to issues like this because it makes them uncomfortable, or they just don't know how to help. I think people should voice their opinions to their local government and speak to attorneys who are also for the cause. If you don't speak up nothing will be accomplished. It's disgusting that laws have been passed making life more difficult for these people.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on May 30, 2015:

DeborahDian, thank you for sharing that information here. I'm glad someone is finally doing something to help these people instead of ticketing them, beating them up, shooting them, and setting them on fire -- oh, and passing another law to make it illegal to exist while being poor.

Deborah Carr from Orange County, California on May 27, 2015:

This is such an important article! In Los Angeles, they were able to find apartments for 3000 homeless vets last year and they are on track to finding apartments for 6000 more homeless vets this year. After that, they plan to try to find housing for other groups of homeless people. They have come to realize that most of the homeless are eligible for some type of housing assistance, disability, food stamps, or Social Security and SSI ... but only if they have an address and can be contacted. They are taking steps to see that this happens. It is a huge undertaking, but I am glad that Los Angeles has begun to tackle it. More cities should follow in their footsteps.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 15, 2015:

Huntgoddess, I appreciate all that you say and feel. I know my late husband is no longer in pain, and hopefully, as so many people say, in a better place. There's nothing I can do and I'm not one to agonize over the past that can't be changed. If there were something I could do to make the future better, I certainly would, but no one wants to believe people in this country are refused healthcare simply because they're poor. I'm trying to get that message out there, but until people find themselves in that situation, in need of healthcare and poor, they will not believe. Some will never find themselves in that situation and never believe. Some will find themselves in that situation one day, and believe, but too late to make any difference.

Everyone wants to think if we go to the emergency room then they have to treat us. Well, yes and no. They don't have to resolve the issue. They only have to respond to the acute situation. If it isn't immediately life threatening, then all they must do is stop the bleeding or give a painkiller, or whatever will resolve the immediate problem. Nothing more. They did do something for my husband. They gave him a pain killer that worked for perhaps a couple of hours and sent him home. They did that over and over again.

Charles Dickens is one of the greatest writers of all time.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on March 14, 2015:

I still say that's disgusting, and malpractice.

You used the word, "discovered." That means they knew. They had an obligation to do something.

He is not suffering anymore, of course. Nevertheless . . .

I feel so horrible for you, and for what he went through. I can't even begin to imagine what you must be going through.

What do you think of Charles Dickens?

When I first read this Hub, I said you reminded me of him. That is quite an honor. I love him very much.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 13, 2015:

Huntgoddess, I appreciate your compassion and that you care. It's been a year and a half since my late husband died. He's out of his misery I hope. He suffered for years. His cancer could have been surgically removed if done when discovered, but because he had no money or insurance that cancer was allowed to grow and metastasize over 6 years until it killed him. His last months were horrible.

Poor people are disposable, in fact, being a dime for a hundred dozen or so, no one cares what happens to them. So far as I can tell people who aren't poor imagine God put poor people on this planet so they could shit on them without repercussions. Imagine their surprise when they get to the Pearly Gates and discover they don't have the password! ;)

I'm fine Huntgoddess. No one gets out of this world alive. I have my bags packed and I wish I'd never come to this world in the first place. The ugliness far outweighs the beautiful. Marianne Williamson says we're in this world to learn how to love. I think she needs a workup.

I've been hearing about the kid shot in WI. Another bad situation like Ferguson. Yet some idiot took a long gun onto school property in Detroit a few days ago and police talked with him reasonably -- too reasonably I think, instead of killing him like has happened to other people who did less. I know they're allowed to openly carry a weapon up there, but that doesn't make it wise.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 11, 2015:

Shyron, I so hope you and your neighborhood can best this man. What a great article that will make! Wonder if you could somehow edit those videos you have and include them in your articles?

I'm getting by and lucky to be doing that I think. Hope all is well with you and John. Take care . . .

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on March 11, 2015:


I am poor myself, and yes, I do know what you mean about the E.R., because I have gone there myself.

It's disgusting, what happened to your family. I just wish there were something I could say or do to help, I feel so horrible.

The whole thing is just so sad. I also do not doubt that some medical professionals have axes to grind regarding attorneys.

Attorneys have unmasked some of the medical evils, and obtained compensation for the victims.

But, still . . . . .

I wish there could be some comfort for you, and for all. I just don't know what to do.

We had a nineteen year-old kid murdered in cold blood by a cop here in my city, recently. So, that is another monstrous story going on now.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 10, 2015:

Doctors and medical practitioners are not required to accept patients who can't pay. Even in the emergency room, all they have to do is respond to the acute situation as best they can and they're off the hook. If it were possible for everyone who is mistreated or not treated at all because they are poor to sue, the courts would be even more clogged up than they already are.

This is a common practice and has been for a while now. I know you don't want to believe it, but if you are poor as you suggest, you will eventually learn that what I am saying is the way it is. Poor people are expendable and disposable. No one cares about them and the quicker they die and get out of the way the better. All poor people are treated like my late husband was treated. All of them. Some medical practitioners may be kinder with their words and demeanor, but that would be the only difference. I think maybe their nastiness was due to my late husband being a lawyer. Doctors really hate lawyers and probably dream of the day they can get even.

Thank you for caring . . .

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on March 10, 2015:

Au fait, it would have done your heart good to see last nights meeting, when the greedy developer had the people speak for him and one in particular was a doctor, and they did not get the deal done. But, next Monday they get a second chance to get the council to overturn P&Z's denial. Then the council can approve the developer's plan.

I hope all is well with you.

Blessings and Hugs.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 09, 2015:

Paperfacets, thank you for reading and commenting on this article. It's true that homeless people must abide by laws and rules just like we all must, but it also seems as though some communities have added additional burdensome laws and rules just for homeless and poor people because they imagine that homeless and poor people have such an easy life that they want to punish them and take some of the ease out of their lives. These are of course the most ignorant of ignorant people who imagine these things. And if they really believed their own ludicrous ideas, why haven't they given away everything they own so they can be poor and homeless and living a life of ease too?

Actually, the reason people were turned out of mental facilities in the 80s was because conservatives didn't want tax dollars to have to pay for their care in institutions. It had nothing to do with the rights of mental patients, many of whom couldn't think straight anyway.

There are some people who have an abundance of greed, selfishness, mean spiritedness, ignorance, hate, and heartlessness. They are the ones who want to remove all social safety nets. Listen to the people who loudly proclaim ugly things about public assistance programs and you will then know who they are. Generally they all belong to the same club.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on March 07, 2015:

Au fait, I tried to answer a few days ago, but I had a weird tech problem. Sorry. I did not want you to think I was ignoring your response.

I sometimes can't use any computer for several days. I have no computer of my own.

Yes, of course I do believe that many die due to lack of insurance. Then, there are many others whose treatment kills them.

I still think perhaps you should speak with an attorney. There are attorneys who advertise online. You can even fill out an online form for some of them.

I'm so sorry, dear. It's horrible.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 07, 2015:

Ezzly, thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this important issue. 'They' can do it because they are heartless, mean spirited, and selfish in every way, to the extreme.

Sherry Venegas from La Verne, CA on March 07, 2015:

L.A. has had it share of controversy on this issue. They do let people sleep on the streets if they get up and clear their items by a certain time each morning. Even if you are homeless there are rules to follow. In the eighties most states decided mental patients and others have the right to be free of institutions. That is so, but now we have a new situation and it is society of a whole that needs to address this. To not help in some way is avoiding a responsibility. Shame on Houston and other cities for their belittling attitudes.

ezzly on March 05, 2015:

Wow, how can they fine a homeless veteran $500 for eating something out of the trash ? Heartbreaking and an article that really gets you thinking. Thanks for highlighting this !!

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 02, 2015:

Huntgoddess, thank you for coming back. What happened to my husband is policy and happens to poverty stricken people all over this country. There was no malpractice. There was NO practice. They simply refused to work for no pay and doctors do it all the time.

Not long ago my own doctor I've been with for several years told me if I have no money for tests he can't help me. I know other people who have had similar experiences.

There are literally more than 50,000 people who die in this country every year because they have no access to medical care. It's a reality. It was true long before the ACA, so Obama can't be blamed. No money, no insurance, no help.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 27, 2015:

OMG, that is really disgusting! I am so sorry for you and your dear hubby, and I hope nobody has to go through such a thing again.

You need to find yourself a good attorney and start up a malpractice claim against these "medical professionals." They have some that advertise online, even.

It won't bring him back, but you should be compensated for the harm they brought to your family.

Thanks for the link.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 26, 2015:

My husband was in terrible pain for the last 3-5 months of his life and no one at Andersen Cancer Center in Houston or anywhere else gave a damn. It could have been surgically removed if done right away several years before, but no one was willing to help not only here in Texas, but anywhere in this country.

They sent him home to live with it for as long as he could stand it and then he died. And they say Americans are the most generous people on earth. Not the doctors, politicians, or administrators of hospitals or charities. Not a lot of people. Everything is for people who can afford to pay, mainly the wealthy. If you can't pay, you don't get it, not even if you're a child.

They were nasty at that hospital too. He and I were separated for years before his last months, but daughter went to visit him and she said they treated both him and her very badly.

Medicaid only finally gave in a week before he died. Before that he would take an ambulance to the emergency room and they would give him a pain killer that would last about half an hour, and then he'd have to take another ambulance back again soon.

Imagine knowing that cancer that could be removed and give you several more good years was instead left to grow inside you, to metastasize, and no one will do anything to help you. You just have to live with it and bear the horrific pain and get closer to your death, medical people treating you nastily all the while, because you don't have the decency to get it over with and stop bothering them. Our convicted criminals get better treatment than that!

If you are poor, you may well get the opportunity to see exactly what it was like for my late husband. No one should be made to go through what he went through. Poor people are disposable in this country. Everything is for the wealthy.

You are certainly welcome to use any links relating to your articles that you want to.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 25, 2015:

Au fait --- Ok, I got the article you mentioned, in the paper from Oakland, California.

I think I will place that link on my Hub, if you don't mind?? Thanks very much.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 25, 2015:

OMG! I'm so sorry about your dear husband.

You know, yesterday a guy on the bus said that a couple who lived downstairs from him had been together for over thirty years, and they had kids. They were together since high school, but were in their fifties.

One morning, the lady woke up and found her dear hubby dead beside her in the bed.

The lady died the next day. The guy on the bus said he was just about to go down there to give his condolences, but neighbors told him.

Can you believe that? It's just so effing sad.

Yes, you are right, but poor folks have more sharing and generosity with each other, and we make up a strong community. I don't think I'd ever want to be rich. It's too lonely.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 25, 2015:

Huntgoddess, thank you again for sharing your thoughts and information on this subject. I know there are a few people everywhere who try to help and meet the needs of the homeless and less fortunate, but the need is so great and there are so many more people who seem to want to put blocks to prevent helping them.

My late husband was allowed to die because he was poor and uninsured. No poor person who has been denied healthcare will receive any kind of damages. It is the way poor people in this country are treated (or not treated medically, if you prefer), and most people will never see the truth of it. If a person becomes poor they will quickly discover their life has no value, but then no one cares what poor people have to say, so if you want to speak for what's right, do it before poverty takes over your life and no one listens anymore.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 21, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. The weather is about to get nasty again. Hope both of you are well. Take care . . .

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 21, 2015:

Yes, I don't understand it, either.

Here in Madison, we actually are very lucky to have some good advocates for the poor and homeless. Some of these advocates ARE people of faith, but others are totally secular -- just trying to do the right thing for their fellow human beings.

There is one group that goes directly to the sidewalk to serve food once per week.

This group also takes requests from homeless who are sleeping outside, and then they list on their F'book page what homeless folks want and need, and anybody can pitch in. Just look on the Facebook page to see what is needed, and where to drop it off.

The group delivers it to the homeless.

Yes, that really freaked me out, about my friend in heart surgery. Actually, he has been like a family member almost, although he has mostly been on the street. I've known him for about ten years. I'm so upset about that. They should pay him damages.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 19, 2015:

Huntgoddess, thank you for your continued interest in this issue and for sharing information on the unfortunate man who received open heart surgery. For some reason a lot of people seem to think poor people are put in this world so they can crap on them. If they ever bother to read their Bibles they will discover they are walking in a very dangerous place. I would be scared to death of being zapped on the spot if I were to knowingly inflict more misery on already miserable people who according to the Bible are second only to children as Jesus' favorite people.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 19, 2015:

I posted on another Hub about my homeless friend, who was undergoing heart surgery. They actually WOKE HIM UP in the middle of surgery to ask who was paying the bill?

His power of attorney for health care happened to be a Roman Catholic priest. The homeless guy's own brother actually was ready to pull the plug because he could not pay the bill, or didn't want to?

This homeless guy is only in his early 40's. He said he heard Father arguing (discussing?) with his (the homeless guy's) brother about "pulling the plug."

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 18, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for sharing this article again. You are so right when you say bad luck and even homelessness can happen to anyone. So many people are barely managing from paycheck to paycheck, and even savings don't last forever if there's nothing coming in. Bad investments and many other things can go awry and suddenly people who thought it could never happen to them find that is in fact happening to them.

My car leaked a little the other night, but only while it was pouring. Mostly it was a drizzle and while it's unpleasant at least it didn't leak. I wish it would be a little warmer at night. Days are fine as they are.

Blessings to you and John, too.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on February 18, 2015:

Au fait ---- It looks as if I didn't even finish my last post. Idk what was going on? Maybe it was that on-screen keyboard? So sorry dear.

I really love your questions, and I'm glad you love animals, and I am flattered that you say I'm nice. (My kids might not agree LOL)

Your questions are very interesting, and relevant, and I do see exactly where you are coming from. I don't have any good answers, though, sadly.

I will have to ponder the issue a little more, I guess?

Thanks, Au fait. I always love your passion, though.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 17, 2015:

CJGrace, thank you for checking this article out. Yes, there are many cities that should be on the Meanest Cities list but aren't. There is a limit to how much space HP has available after all, and more and more people are jumping onto the mean spirited wagon. Cops that have no compassion for people and who pick on anyone just because they can should not be cops.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on February 17, 2015:

Au fait, I am back to share this again. Everyone should read and heed this. It could/can be anyone of us. One can lose everything in the blink of an eye. I think it would be hard being on the outside looking in. Right now I feel like I am between the two panes of glass.

I hope you are dry and warm. It is raining here and cold 46 degrees, but feels colder.

Blessings and Hugs Dear Friend

Chris from California on February 17, 2015:

Very interesting article, and very informative. I must add an additional city to the meanest cities list in Ca, and that is San Luis Obispo! The city police actually terrorize the homeless (at the behest of the City Council), threaten them with arrest, actually throw them to the ground. I've written an article about it, and I have much more to write about this subject also, from the homeless point of view, and from the other side.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 10, 2015:

Huntgoddess, I never thought for a moment that you were implying anything about the humanity of anyone. I know that you would be too nice to say it even if you thought such a thing.

I grew up on a farm and I love animals and they usually love me, but sadly the animals I have had most contact with are the ones I have the worst allergies for.

I'm just saying the fact that a wealthy person is capable of having a moment's concern for an animal is no reason to think they have a heart or that they're normal like the rest of us. If they're so normal and caring, why did they create our financial system like it is in the first place, and more importantly, why do they maintain it and tighten the screws continually to their advantage and our extreme disadvantage? Where is there compassion for homeless people including many homeless children and elderly people? They have none because they brought this situation about in the first place, so it would seem they get some sort of sick pleasure out of creating human misery.

Thank you for taking time to comment.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on January 09, 2015:

Please don't think I meant to imply anything about anyone's lack of humanity.

I'm so sorry about your allergies. Many people don't have animals for many good reasons. It's none of my business. Certainly not my place to judge. Also, others do have animals for the wrong reasons, I'm sure.

We were referring to that rich girl with the sick horse. You asked an important and profound question. I'm sorry I did not have enough time to respond more thoughtfully ---- as I also don't now (onscreen keyboard! so sorry.)

Hope to get back to it soon?


I am usually in a hurry when I'm on the 'Net. I should compose off-line, in order to send a more gracious

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 08, 2015:

Huntgoddess, thank you for your continued interest in this topic. I don't think pets really have anything to do with wealthy people creating and then oppressing a poverty class of people.

Maybe I'm not "fully human" because I have no pets. I'm allergic to all animals and most everything else in this world. Animals usually love men and I love them too, but there are none in close proximity.

Hope you are in a warm place. Don't know about where you are, but it's pretty chilly here in North Texas. Only 14 degrees F. at 5 AM this morning.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on January 08, 2015:

There are two things everybody reading this can do right now:

1. Go to the You Tube channel, whoanora. Look for a video entitled, "Homeless man called a bum, this will change your perspective."

2. Go to the Facebook page for "Occupy Madison," make a donation. Give a "Like." (Please check out the other posts on there, as well.)

There are probably other cities with similar groups. I'm going to look for them as well. Don't be shy about searching for groups, projects, organizations and other resources in your own area. If there are none, don't be shy about starting one.

God bless to Au fait for writing this --- again!!

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 07, 2015:

Shyron, thank you for the votes, shares, and for leaving a comment. If enough people cared they would start making as much noise as those people who hate the very thought of helping the less fortunate and we would get a permanent solution to this problem that would include no American being homeless, hungry, or without necessary medical care ever again.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on January 03, 2015:

Dear au fait, Thanks again for your intelligent and thoughtful reply.

The only thing I can say about the rapist crying for his beloved pet is that he is a human being who committed a crime, and perhaps must repay the debt to society if duly convicted.

But I can also say that our pets make us more fully human.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on January 03, 2015:

I came back to read this again and try to understand how anyone could be this way towards their fellow man/woman.

And as I said before, This is heart breaking, soul shaking and sadness making. This will make anyone who cares uncomfortable, and the ones that don't care will not read this.

Voted up, UABI, pinned and shared.

God bless you for writing this.


C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 29, 2014:

Huntgoddess, thank you for your continued interest. You are correct, it is a matter of changing the system. Unfortunately, the wealthy are in charge of the system. They created it and they maintain it because it benefits them. To change the system you will have to change the minds and hearts (I really don't believe they have any) of the wealthy and somehow remove their power that keeps this system in place.

Yes, I know when one has a heart s/he tends to empathize with everyone, no matter how terribly or often that other person may use and abuse them. No matter how heart warming a rapist may be when he talks about his beloved pet, it doesn't change who and what he is.

In the end we will all leave this world and very little that happens in it will matter. If there wasn't so much misery in the world because of a few selfish mean spirited people, all the wealth would be meaningless. When we came to this world we had only our physical bodies. When we leave, we won't even have that. All we will have is the knowledge we have gained and our memories. Will there be a reckoning for our thoughts, words, and deeds? The Bible says there will.

It's hard to respect people who create poverty and misery.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 23, 2014:

First, I have to say I really love your passion.

Second, I have to say that I do not dispute anything you say here --- exactly.

My question, though, is this:

If these wealthy people we have right now all manage to drop dead for some reason, will that really change anything? Or, if their wealth is forcibly expropriated by the rest of us --- what will happen next?

I feel that it is a matter of changing the system itself, not of forcing any one particular person to do something.

As I said before, I do have this kind of conversation with my son who claims to be a "Socialist." I prefer to take things one day at a time and do what I can as I go.

I guess you think I'm a white "Uncle Tom." Maybe I am. I don't know. I used to be angry. Maybe it's just old age creeping in??


Well, I'll just say one small incident, that happened over thirty years ago.

I used to belong to a self-help group with a bunch of other poor, single moms from the projects. We invited some of the grantors (the ones who paid for our group) to our discussion that day, in order to get to know them and vice versa.

There was a very wealthy young lady there. She told a story of her horse who was ill and she was unable to obtain appropriate medical care for him.

We actually felt very sorry for her and were all crying about her sad story of her beautiful horse. We didn't care that she was wealthy enough to even own a horse and we never probably would be, or anything like that.

We only cared that she was a human being, in pain, and we could not help ourselves from feeling perfectly empathetic.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 22, 2014:

Huntgoddess, thank you for your continued interest in this subject. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back, but there were several comments ahead of yours and then there is life always getting in the way . . .

There are no truly wealthy people here on HP. Read Mr. Rankins article and learn who the truly wealthy are and how they manipulate things to their advantage. God didn't simply drop all that wealth into their hands to burden the poor things down you know.

However, if a wealthy person does happen to read these comments, maybe, just maybe they need to be offended. When someone is obscenely abusing other people, I see no reason to be polite in telling them they need to stop and change their ways.

It's like I told my daughter, when it comes to defending yourself against someone who is trying to hurt you, don't worry about being a proper polite lady. They're not being polite AND they're trying to hurt you. Give it all you've got because if you don't, it well may be all you've got because when they're done with you, you may be dead. So if you bloody their nose or worse, so what? They were trying to rape you, or steal your purse, or worse. So why worry about being a lady while someone is trying to rape you? Surprisingly, a lot of women do worry about that very thing.

It sounds to me like you are trying to be polite and courteous while these wealthy moochers are taking you for everything they can get. You may not realize that's what they're doing, but they are. Forget about being nice to these useless parasites. They're not the least worried about being nice to you.

It's true, the system is set up as you say, and it was set up by the WEALTHY. We mustn't offend the wealthy for setting up a system for making us poor and subservient to them must we? After all, just because the wealthy set that system up doesn't mean they planned it does it? YES, it does mean they planned it and they know exactly what they are doing. Frankly, I'm not sure the wealthy are human beings. Even the great apes look out for each other, but the wealthy don't give a flip about anyone but themselves. Don't get between them and a penny or a dollar or any money at all, or they will shove you out of their way with no uncertain purpose, rudeness be damned.

The wealthy have no hearts to change. They have no principles. They'll do anything, ANYTHING for a half penny no matter whom it hurts -- so long as it isn't themselves.

The system exists because it has been created and put in place by the wealthy who benefit from it every moment of the day. You didn't know that? You thought it just happened, like the Big Bang that created all that is? One moment no system, and the next BANG and suddenly there is a system that just happens to benefit the wealthy. How convenient for them. No, it didn't just happen. The wealthy created it and they love people like you who believe it just happened. They love you more when you honestly believe they have a heart and care about something besides themselves and their money. If only we were all like that how much easier their lives would be -- imagine a pocket picker working a crowd that actually offered their wallets to the pocket picker so he didn't have to steal it . . .

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 19, 2014:

Shyron, thank you for the votes and share! People who 'fit in' like others like themselves and often consider themselves superior to anyone having any kind of issues, especially financial issues. If people would read the Bible they claim to follow and believe, they would discover the wealthy are not the wealthy because of being God's chosen. In fact, He has spoken about the wealthy several times and none of what He said would lead a person to imagine that wealthy people are on His favorites list.

Hugs and blessings to you and John. I'm almost done for tonight and the library is closed so I'm doing this in a less comfy much cooler place. Hope to have heat again shortly. So good to hear your voice again the other day. I wish I weren't so limited on my minutes. Take care . .

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 17, 2014:

Au fait, I responded to your latest with a comment of my own yesterday.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 16, 2014:

Dear Au Fait.

I certainly do NOT disagree with any of this, believe me. I'm not a "pie in the sky by and by when you die," pietistic Bible-thumper by any means.

I am still pretty much mostly a radical, as you obviously are yourself.

(On the other hand, I also get a little tired of fellow radicals who don't respect my right to practice my Faith as I see fit. --- No, I don't mean you, dear.)

I've just backed off from some of the radical rhetoric now that I'm a geezer. LOL. I attended Marxist Summer School in NYC, back in the early '80's, and a couple of other things.

I give to my local IWW shops, but I'm not a member anymore. I still support them, though.

My comment was based on the simple fact that we are all human beings. Also, not wanting to offend readers who may be wealthy themselves.

I don't call anyone evil for being wealthy because the system is set up so that a lot of people have to be poor in order so that a few people can be wealthy.

So, for me, the main issue is changing the system --- to something different, where it will NOT be necessary for many to be poor so that a few can be wealthy.

I think it takes changes in folks' hearts and minds.

My son and his wife belong to ISO. We have similar conversations all the time. From what I can discern, they seem to be endorsing violent revolution.

I disagree with that. The end can never justify the means.

Yes, I will read those articles. Thanks for the cites.

Thanks again, dear.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on December 16, 2014:

Au fait, I had to come back and re-read this. Especially this paragraph.

Everyone wants to pretend poor people, homeless people, do not exist, and that our economy is fully recovered for those people -- the better people in this country -- who matter.

My question is who do these people "who matter," who do they matter to?

Voted up UAI and shared

Blessings and hugs


C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 16, 2014:

Huntgoddess, thank you again for your continued interest in this article and subject. We are indeed all responsible to help each other in whatever ways we can. I haven't studied you catechism, but I have read the King James Bible many times and expect your catechism is based on it. I have a Catholic Bible and I have studied the various Christian denominations as well.

It is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man (or woman) to get into Heaven.

The more a person has, the more that is expected of them. In other words, the more money a person has the more responsibility God expects them to take regarding the less fortunate.

Larry Rankin wrote an exceptional article that was recently chosen for Hub of the Day. He wrote about the wealthy people in this world. I recommend that article to you: Fifteen Things You Probably Don’t Know About the Ultra-Wealthy.

Wealthy people can afford whatever they need and even most if not all of what they want. They are the cause of most of the misery in this world and they are the moochers who do not pay their fair share. Most of them stole their wealth fair and square (legally) by not paying their employees a living wage or benefits and by making shoddy products they sell to their customers at inflated prices. They use the roads to get their employees to work and back, to get their products to market, and often pay little nor no taxes. Walmart is just one example. They pay their employees so little that those employees must try to get food stamps and medicaid. Why should taxpayers have to subsidize a multimillion dollar company owned and run by gazillionaires?

Recently wealthy bankers were not only NOT held responsible for the mayhem they caused the entire world with their shenanigans, but received bonuses for so doing. If that's not enough, taxpayers bailed their banks out so they wouldn't have to sell one of their vacation homes to make up the shortage. They understood what they were doing when they did it, extending loans to people they knew full well could not pay the money back, and then AIG insured those bad loans so that taxpayers ended up bailing them both out, both the banks and the insurance companies, yet the bankers who extended those bad loans still received their bonuses for extending those loans. If you or I had done what they did, we would have been thrown in jail and the key melted down.

There is a reason why the Bible says very few wealthy people will be in Heaven. They all break the first commandment for starters. They worship the money God and place that God before everything else. Secondly, the Bible says you can't worship mammon and God too. Many of them will do nothing for anyone but themselves while a few will do as much as they can so long as a penny or more is not involved.

When the old woman placed her few pennies in the poor box at church Jesus observed and said she had a sure place in Heaven because she had given all she had, while most people only give a little of what they don't need anyway.

Everyone likes to badmouth people who are down on their luck and seemingly nothing is too ugly to accuse them of. Lazy, slothful, drunkards, junkies, and worse. Yet much of what wealthy people do is selfish and benefits only themselves when it benefits anyone at all. Many of them do nothing. Often what the wealthy do is influence congress to their benefit and to the detriment of the rest of us. They create poor people. They create misery.

I do not feel sorry for wealthy people. It rains both on the just and on the unjust, the difference being that the wealthy can be miserable in their posh penthouses if they can't find a way to buy their way out of their funk.

They say money can't buy happiness. I say anyone who believes that has never been homeless and without heat or electricity or food. I have a standing offer to all wealthy people who feel sorry for themselves because of their great burden of wealth. Take everything I have in exchange for everything you have and I will show you how to be happy with all that wealth, how to pay as much as 80% (maybe more) in taxes with a smile, and I will give you a lesson in what it's like to be truly poor.

Larry Rankin has another excellent article that also received HOTD titled Helping People by Helping Them. I recommend that one also.

Any problem that can be resolved is usually resolved with money. The wealthy have the resolution. They are the cause of most of the misery in this world -- the misery that could be solved. There is a lot more involved here that what meets the eye. Most people never look below the surface of anything and probably don't even know there is anything below that surface. I assure you, wealthy people didn't get their money because one day the angels decided to bless them. The wealthy have actively sought that money in ways that may be legal, but not everything that is legal is moral. Read Mr. Rankin's articles so you will have a better definition of the wealthy.

Thank you again for all the time you have taken to read and comment on this article! I very much appreciate your participation.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 13, 2014:

Most of all of the problems of the poor can be solved with $$$, that's true.

But, I'll tell you, I have really felt sorry for some wealthy people. I would not want to trade places with some (maybe most?) of them to tell you the truth.

We are all responsible for helping to make a more equitable society in general, for the long and the short term. That is what the Catechism says.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 12, 2014:

LongTimeMother, thank you for your excellent addition and for sharing your thoughts on this issue. I have read many of the Pope's comments regarding the less fortunate on Face Book and elsewhere. He is very much in favor of lending a helping hand however possible. Surprisingly, many of his followers do not agree with him, and I know some of those people I speak of personally. Merry Christmas!

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 11, 2014:

True that even the wealthy sometimes suffer, but generally they do it in style and comfort. Money will solve most solvable problems, and while the wealthy await a solution they are busy feeling sorry for themselves while they live in lavish surroundings with servants to attend their every wish. I'm not speaking of people who are merely well off and comfortable, but people who have more money than their great, great, great, great, great . . . grandchildren could ever spend, and at the cost of people suffering, and the wealthy don't care.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 11, 2014:

LongTimeMother: Wow!!! Thanks so much for this, and God bless you. Of course, thanks again to Aufait as well.

She is the one who started this wonderful thread and Hub. It appears to be doing a lot of good in the world already.

LongTimeMother from Australia on December 11, 2014:

I found an answer to my question about what the Pope thinks about treating the homeless badly. Here's a quote from a news article, plus a link to the whole story ...


Because he sees human beings concretely, Pope Francis is affronted when he sees them treated without respect for their dignity, and asks why this happens. He finds the answer in the greed and the imbalance of power and wealth that distort society. So he consistently attacks the idolatry of economic theories that enable people to make the impoverishment of the poor an unfortunate but unavoidable economic fact rather than the result of human decisions.

Pope Francis calls on Catholics to go outside the comfortably Catholic world to be with people with whom they share a common humanity. In this they follow Jesus who sought to win people. He did not judge people but engaged with them, and through the encounter opened to them the freedom and joy of the Gospel. The building of showers for homeless people in St Peter’s Square embodies perfectly this project.



Yes, you read it right. Showers for people who are homeless have been installed in St Peter's Square!!

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 10, 2014:

Yes, I hope everybody who is homeless could be in a similar situation, as well.

Thanks for the blessings. I wish the same for you, also.

Many are suffering, even the wealthy. You don't have to be poor or homeless to suffer, believe me.

God bless.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 09, 2014:

Huntgoddess, so glad you are in a kinder place. You have my best wishes always. May God bless you in every possible way.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on December 07, 2014:

Thanks, Au Fait.

I live in a city where most are very generous. God bless, dear.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 06, 2014:

DeborahDian, thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this important issue. It is deplorable the way poor people in this country are treated worse than animals by people who imagine themselves somehow superior.

My move was horrible and I'm still recuperating, but thankfully it's over and I can move forward. Thank you for your good wishes just the same. They are much appreciated.

Deborah Carr from Orange County, California on December 04, 2014:

Thank you for writing this. As I am reading it, I am also watching on the evening news about a homeless encampment that is being dismantled and the people kicked out here in Southern California. Where are these people supposed to go? This seems especially thoughtless as we are about to celebrate a major Christian religious holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus who repeatedly told his followers to help the poor, feed the hungry, care for the homeless, etc. Such a shame.

I hope your move went well and that you are able to relax a little and enjoy your holidays!

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 22, 2014:

Huntgoddess, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this important issue.

I think a great many people need our prayers and God's blessings, especially on this issue. People who have fallen on hard times need our prayers and God's blessings just to survive, but also to hopefully dig themselves out of the hole they're currently in. People who attach the label 'Christian' to themselves without knowing it's meaning also need our prayers and God's blessings to that they can be instrumental in doing God's work and bringing glory to Him in providing a hand up to assist 'the least' of God's children in this, the wealthiest nation on earth. My wish for you Huntgoddess, is that God will bless you and provide you with stable food and shelter soon.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on November 18, 2014:

_my_girl_sarah_ writes:

"I frequent downtown Atlanta and street people make it very uncomfortable for me to walk around. Not all homeless are aggressive but many are. I found out that every weekend, a local church feeds people at the park I have to frequently walk around. This is a magnet for the homeless (as parks typically are)."

Wow, she "found out" that "a local church feeds people at the park I have to frequently walk around."

Oh, the poor dear. She suffers.

I think mgs needs our prayers and blessings?

I love your reply to her, Au Fait.


C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 18, 2014:

my_girl_sara, thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment, and for sharing your thoughts and concerns on this subject.

You might ask yourself how you might behave if you were forced to live like an animal for the foreseeable future with no end in sight. Have you checked to see what your city officials are doing to help the homeless? Not what they're doing to get rid of them and force them to move on, but to actually HELP them? Are you actively trying to make things better for poor and homeless people? Or just complaining about the inconvenience?

How inconvenient might it be if you had to live out in the open with no shelter at all for protection and no food except the moldy morsels from dumpsters that you fought over with other homeless people? Would you smile brightly at all passers by and wish them a happy day? Even when they looked at you with a look worse than dog shit gets when they spy it in their path? Even when your stomach was grinding away louder than a rumble radio and no food available? Even when somebody maced you in the face for daring to beg for something to eat?

But for the grace of God, you might be among the homeless, and so long as you're breathing, there's still time. I hope it never happens to you, but I think a lot of people would have an attitude adjustment if it ever did happen to them. They might take more of an interest in making things better for the disadvantaged and poor among us if they realized it actually could happen to them.

Sorry to be so grim, but you don't know inconvenient or uncomfortable until you've tried to sleep on a city street with no protection from the elements or from other people. When that happens even your family will write you off. The people you called friends will disappear. Employers will not even give your application the time of day let alone offer an interview. Instead of marinating in your discomfort around homeless people, why don't you see what you can do to make their situation better?

How about boycotting businesses that refuse to even consider the application of a person who is unemployed? How about speaking out against the right to work states who make it legal to fire an employee for any reason or no reason and they don't even have to tell the employee what their reason is?

Making it illegal to be homeless only puts more strain on our legal system and fills our jails faster. It further gives people whose only crime is being poor, an arrest record, and they take up space that could be used to house real criminals. If you think employers are dying to get employees with jail records try stating on your next job applications that you were arrested for something and see if you ever hear from an employer again.

In the so-called richest nation on the planet the word homeless should be a foreign word that no one here understands. It should be unheard of because it should never happen to anyone for any reason in the United States. When people are forced to live like animals you shouldn't be surprised if they behave like animals.

You seem to think it's somebody else's responsibility to get homeless people out of your way. If everyone worked together to get rid of homelessness -- not homeless people, but the condition of homelessness -- we could turn it around, but no one wants to be bothered -- until they find themselves homeless, and then it's too late. They've become the dog shit they so despised and no one cares what they think or say, and no one wants to see them or have them around. Not friends, not family, and definitely not the general public.

Cynthia Zirkwitz from Vancouver Island, Canada on November 16, 2014:

Au Fait, this is an example of hard-hitting journalism that I don't often come across on Hubpages, and I bow to you! This article has opened my eyes to a privilege that I have to serve the poor and homeless in my own community that I have recently turned my back to... one of the volunteer programs I was involved in was 'canceled' or moved to another agency for this winter. I see that I need to track that program down, to offer some continuity, and to be "with it" again. It is easy for me, as a senior with my own agenda, the odd ache and pain, and lots of other distractions, to forget about my Christian commitment to serve as per Matthew 25. Thanks for the wake-up! Voted up, awesome, useful, shared, and pinned!

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on November 16, 2014:

Your comments and those of your readers would make an interesting hub. I have been fortunate to have found a job to stay employed most of the time. But most of the places I worked for did not pay enough to raise the Social Security benefits to a living wage (Social Security benefits are calculated according to how much a person has paid into it), and the greedy right wants to take that away, but I would bet they don't turn their benefits down.

What younger people do not understand is that Medicare is not free either, Medicare payments (even though you paid into FICA all your working life from age 18) are taken out of Social Security, you and I have to pay for prescription drugs and supplemental insurance out of whatever monies we receive from SS.

Can you imagine what it would have cost us had we not been on Social Security/Medicare and paying for Supplemental insurance, when John had his accident?

This is an eye opening hub. Voted up, UAI and shared.

Blessings and Prayers my dear friend.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on November 15, 2014:

Thanks so much, Au fait, for the info about breaking Hubs down. I did not know that. I guess I was just thinking that you might get more clicks or something. I did not know HP frowned on it. I'm glad, really. It's much easier that way.

I appreciate your suggestions about places to get out of the cold during the day. I do some of these already, but it's always good to hear about more.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 15, 2014:

wrenchBiscuit, thank you for commenting again on this article. I wish boycotting would be sufficient, but we would have to boycott practically every city in this country, including the one I live in, and probably the one you live in too.

I do think if enough citizens in these cities would rise up and demand these laws be changed that we would see mean spirited politicians backtracking. After all, much as they would like to obliterate every poor person from the map (poor people generally don't make much money for the greedy and therefore provide no benefit to the greedy), they also want to keep their position of power that makes practicing their greed so much easier.

There are not enough people in this country who care about anything except themselves to force the needed changes and removal of these laws. As with most things, greed and ignorance rule.

I wonder what Jesus would say, indeed, WILL say, when all these people who either agree that poor people should be eliminated, or who make no effort to help poor people by having these laws repealed, present themselves at the Pearly Gates. Clearly many of the good Christians don't really believe in God because when it comes to doing His work, they are ,missing in action. Some give it lip service, but most do nothing but stand by and let ugly things like this happen.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 14, 2014:

Longtimemother, thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts on this important issue.

Here in the states, the conservatives (Libertarians, Republicans, etc.) hate public assistance of any kind and scream loud if even a half penny of their taxes in their lifetime is spent on the lazy slothful people who are homeless and/or hungry. They also thump their Bible (most haven't read it, but it hurts less to thump a soft Bible than a hard table or desk) and claim to be Christians, but know almost nothing about Christianity. Right wing Christians are conservatives. Conservatives further demand their right to carry a gun anywhere, even into a school or a tavern, etc.

So you see, the people you are speaking of regarding gun rights (American Conservatives) are the same people who claim Christianity in an effort to avoid any challenges to their words or deeds, and the same people who denigrate the poor if they receive food stamps or unemployment, etc.

Most people here have not read the Bible in its entirety, not even the New Testament, so they do not know if Conservatives are correct in what they say is in the Bible. Liberals generally have no spine and no guts and Conservatives know if they say anything at all in a bit of a stern voice liberals will go running to hide behind something, anything, rather than challenging them. If they invoke God's name in any way they are all but certain to face no questions about what they claim are Christian views.

Conservatives hate the very thought of helping anyone for any reason, especially if that help involves money. They say their money is theirs and they earned it and they aren't going to give it readily to lazy slothful people. Anyone who is poor, is in the minds of Conservatives, lazy and slothful. If that were not so they wouldn't be poor.

God says that everything we have is a gift from Him and that no human has earned anything. He says if we fail to help the poor among us we are failing to help Him. He says if we help the poor among us we are helping Him. If one hasn't read the Bible but merely prances about with great pride in the Christian label they have applied to themselves they will not be aware that their words and actions are directly in opposition to what Jesus Christ says is Christian.

When the rich man in the Bible told Jesus that he had adhered to all the commandments and then asked what he could do to assure his place in Heaven, Jesus said, "Sell everything you own and give the money to the poor." The rich man walked away with great sadness for he couldn't bring himself to part with his earthly treasures and therefore could not assure himself a place in heaven.

On the other hand, the old woman who gave the few pennies she had, was according to Jesus, guaranteed a place in Heaven because she gave everything she had while the wealthy merely give a little of what they don't need anyway.

American Conservatives hate taxes, hate helping anyone but themselves, claim to be the most superior of Christians, and love their guns. They also hate the idea of any undeserving person (translate as anyone except themselves) having access to healthcare, food, education, or life in general.

That isn't' to say all American Christians are Conservatives. That is what Conservatives will tell you, but the true Christians are generally not Conservatives. In fact, Conservatives dislike conservation where our planet is concerned and believe Global Warming is just a tall tale and another means to prevent them from making more money. Did I say they worship the Money God? Yes, they seem to have that God mixed up with the true God of Heaven -- maybe that's their confusion with love of guns rather than love of people and planet.

American Conservatives hate taxes, hate taking care of our planet, hate allowing poor people to have food, shelter, or medical care they haven't 'earned,' love guns, love war, and love money. They further want to punish women regardless of a woman's age or condition for being raped or for having sex at all, even with their own husband. Women are to remember their place and that is 3 or more steps behind any man present. This is just scratching the surface of the Conservative ideology and their definition of Christianity. Hope that helps you better understand why there is no demand from so-called Christians regarding a hand up for poor and/or homeless people. Liberals have no spine and Conservatives care only about themselves.

Some Conservatives will tell you they do care about others and do want them to have food, medical care, etc., but if that's true, why do they vote for Republicans who make clear that they will vote against any kind of public assistance and want to do away with food stamps, unemployment, student loans, and even Social Security and Medicare? If a person doesn't share your values why on earth would you vote them into office? The Republican Party is basically the Scrooge Party and they make no secret of it, so why are all these self-described 'soft hearted' Conservatives voting for that party or any member of it?

So to understand why the U.S. is the way it is you must understand our politics and take into account who is running the government. By the way, our president isn't a dictator and it is our Congress that runs the show. Guess who has the majority in Congress? Guess who has been in power in our Congress for some time now? With a super majority required to pass anything in the Senate, having a mere majority of one or two doesn't make much difference. With the last election Republicans are now the majority in the Senate too. How did that happen if most people in this country aren't money grubbing, mean spirited Scrooges?

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 14, 2014:

Kiss andTales, you raise some interesting thoughts. Thank you for stopping by and commenting!

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 12, 2014:

Thank you Dolores Monet for reading and commenting on this article. Also for the votes and tweet and share. I very much appreciate the time you took to read and comment.

I don't know why it sometimes happens, but every once in a while someone's comment ends up in the Spam folder and then I don't see it right away. I feel really bad when this happens even though I did nothing to cause it. I really appreciate the people who take time to comment and I try to get to them as quickly as I can.

This has happened from time to time to the comments of several different excellent writer's like yourself. When I came to this article to respond to some comments I had received, I discovered yours with a "not Spam" sign under it. When you shared this article it came up in my feed and I thought it was odd there was only the share and not a comment, but some hubbers do that sometimes -- share an article without commenting. So I shared your article about the Enchanted Forest theme park. Now that I've found your comment I'm responding to it and I'm so sorry I didn't discover it sooner. HP may think they have all the kinks worked out of their system but I know they don't.

Again, thank you so much for taking time to comment on this article and for sharing your thoughts on this issue.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 11, 2014:

Huntgoddess, thank you for reading and sharing your experience and thoughts on this issue, and for the votes!

There is a lot of information online written by homeless people sharing their experiences as well as how they manage to live better than one might expect. Joining a 24/7 gym can give you a place to get in out of the weather, provide bathroom privileges and even TV while you work out. Some have Wi-Fi and comfortable seating. Libraries are good places to get in out of the heat or cold, and get online or read the newspaper, etc. If you have a university where you live, they are often open long hours. If you look around there is usually seating here and there in out of the weather and you can read. 24 hour coffee shops can give you a place to get inside and if you find all those places where you can spend an hour or 2 or 3 inside, you can rotate them so that you always have a place to get inside and hopefully a bathroom available.

I know a lot of people like to break their hubs down into little pieces, but HubPages prefers 1250 words, and Google likes comprehensive pieces so that their customers don't have to bounce all over the web trying to find all the info on a particular subject that they're looking for. In fact HP recommended a while back that hubbers not have hubs broken down into parts 1, 2, 3, etc. I was thinking of adding to this article about the 90-year-old man who was arrested and fined along with two church pastors for giving free meals to homeless people.

The mean spiritedness all over this country really is way over the top. Thanks again for reading and leaving a comment.

Kiss andTales on November 11, 2014:

I understand your concern MGS and nobody even a homeless person wants to be a victim of crime. Yet they are a victim reaching for help.

It is very scary . But the truth is anybody at any time can be made to walk in these shoes. Money is a perishable thing it is not promise tomorrow

Banks can close tomorrow with out notice. Money can lose value in the next hour. We can learn from the disadvantage. But mean time we can all learn the richness God has to offer a pain free world. With new and improved Government that will take care of all.

Kiss andTales on November 11, 2014:

Why would such a humane law exist . Because it is not human it is demonic. That situation could happen to any human in the future and it will! The rich may lose the value, banks can close , money may not be worth a cent. What does all that mean.

That the people who are already poor know how to survive, just reverse the situation .

Because we all are headed for world events that have never happen or will reach record history . That is why it is important to be rich toward God because he is the only means for our all human survival.

Accurate knowledge is a start that is the real chanel of survival.

Cynthia Lyerly from Georgia on November 10, 2014:

While I think I understand the reasoning behind outlawing some homeless activities within certain city limits, these public officials should also do some things to help homeless charities. I frequent downtown Atlanta and street people make it very uncomfortable for me to walk around. Not all homeless are aggressive but many are. I found out that every weekend, a local church feeds people at the park I have to frequently walk around. This is a magnet for the homeless (as parks typically are). There must be some kind of balance that allows all people to feel safe and welcome, especially in urban areas. After being approached too many times, often in aggressive manners, I've started carrying mace. Such a shame I have to do this.

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 10, 2014:

Dolores Monet, thank you for sharing!

Ronnie wrenchBiscuit on November 09, 2014:

Of course, since you originally posted this important article, a 90 year old man who has been trying to help the homeless for over 20 years was recently arrested and fined for feeding the homeless in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. The best way to fight this is to get the word out as you have done, and then boycott all of the cities that have passed these immoral laws.

Many cities in Florida depend on tourism as a major source of revenue. If enough people protest by refusing to spend their money here, the miscreants who sit on these city councils, and who hold the title of "mayor' will have to back down, as they are ruled by greed.

LongTimeMother from Australia on November 09, 2014:

So, let me see if I am hearing this correctly ... Americans (who can protest loud enough to stop their government from introducing gun control laws) can't make enough of a fuss to stop discrimination against the poor? You can protect your right to bear arms, but you can't protect your right to feed the hungry?

Gun owners can unite to pressure governments to vote down proposed legislation, but churches lack the ability to get every American who claims to have read the Bible to take a stand against laws that are contrary to how one would expect Christians to behave?

Where are all the placards and protests demanding the right to feed the poor? Why aren't rich church-goers engaging anti-discrimination lawyers to fight for their right to follow their religious conviction that helping their neighbors (instead of turning their backs) will help secure their place in Heaven?

I wonder what the Pope and other church leaders think ... Will be ok at the pearly gates to say "I let those people starve because I lived in Houston" or any of those other cold-hearted cities?

Perhaps just being American and having a house to live in before you die is enough to secure a comfortable after-life. (Seems like a heck of a gamble though, if one seriously believes in the Bible.)

I am greatly relieved I live in a country where I can actively help the homeless without fear of prosecution.

Kiss andTales on November 08, 2014:

Well Christian is not what it is suppose to be. Sorry but Christian is only a word ,actions prove the point. Ask would Jesus do this and what will you come up with. no ! Man has changed the real meaning. I am sorry for your experience and anyone you love that have had this to happen that is why I share scripture with you. I have known this subject and have been touched by it in certain way. But I know this will be a thing of the past.

Kiss andTales on November 08, 2014:

Homelessness is a injustice but many other things added.the solution for this problem is not local it is spiritual. Because the scriptures in the bible says so.

Reference Bible Ro 8:22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now.

Reference Bible Re 21:4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

Also notice at Isaiah 65:21 -22 They will build houses and live in them, And they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. 22 They will not build for someone else to inhabit, Nor will they plant for others to eat. For the days of my people will be like the days of a tree, And the work of their hands my chosen ones will enjoy to the full.

You see the earth is full of holes like a bucket with many problems .we need a new bucket

Reference Bible 2Pe 3:13 But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.

Kiss andTales on November 08, 2014:

So fitting is the scripture Reference Bible 1Jo 5:19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. .

Reference Bible 1Jo 4:20 If anyone makes the statement: “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen.

New World Translation Mt 22:39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’

These are not the Governments of God.

Huntgoddess from Midwest U.S.A. on November 08, 2014:

You are very brave, and compassionate. This is what Charles Dickens would have written, I think, if he were here now.

I have read about Kelly Thomas, in Street Pulse, which is our local homeless paper. I am hoping that the cops who murdered him in cold blood will be brought to justice, if they haven't already.

That won't bring Mr. Kelly back, but at least it will be a small shred of dignity.

I'll never forget his sweet face, looking so trustful, in that first picture. My son has a diagnosis of schizophrenia also. I am very afraid any time he has to communicate with law enforcement.

I have been homeless for four years, even though I'm sixty-six years old and a grandma. I am blessed to have indoor places to sleep, though, although I'm outside for most daytime hours.

This Hub really has a lot of information. It's a great reference resource. I have to take some time to read it, because it's a little too intense for me to get through it in one sitting.

It also occurred to me that you might want to break it down into two or three separate Hubs?

Thanks. Up, +++

Dolores Monet from East Coast, United States on November 08, 2014:

I recently read about the arrest of a 90 year old man in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Feeding the homeless in a public park is against the law there and he was arrested along with, I think, 2 pastors. What have we come to here in the US? And we call ourselves a Christian nation. (voted up, shared, and tweeted)

C E Clark (author) from North Texas on October 28, 2014:

RTBurroughs2, thank you for sharing your experience on this issue. It is against the law to be poor or to panhandle in many cities nowadays, as stated in this article. I'm told that the shelters can often be dangerous places to stay as well. For some reason even many cops seem to think God made homeless people so there would be somebody to dump on without worrying that someone will criticize them for so doing.

Lucky so many people believe this is a nation built on Christian values. (I'm being facetious here.)

The economy is said to be improving, but it sure is slow about it. Perhaps you could use the address of an apartment complex instead of a shelter address. So long as no mail is being sent it wouldn't matter, and if you had a P.O. Box you could give both addresses with the P.O. Box last, after the street address and before the city and state. Then it would go to your P.O. Box and they would never know the difference. If you have any friends in that area they might allow you to use their address if you ask them. Having a cell phone solves the phone number problem.

If you have enough part-time work, you might get a gym membership so you have access to a shower/toilet (some are 24/7), and a place to change clothes, etc. They often have Wi-Fi and other amenities, but they're for adults only. Just a thought . . .

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