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Thoughts on the "New World Order And 2012" Hub

MY ESOTERIC likes to think of himself as a bit of a polymath with degrees in Statistics, Accounting, Computer Science, & Operations Research

Initial Thoughts

I read Jawed Iqbal's Hub titled "New World Order and 2012 " with interest. Like Jawed, I am no friend of big corporations; not even close. When one looks toward the federal and state governments, the picture does not get much better (at least they have the public interest at heart ... in theory). I almost cry, however, when I think about city and local government and the corruption and self-interest that is endemic at that level. While the general direction of the hub appears sound, the conclusions may be a wee bit overstated and based on a few shaky bits of support; at least from my way of thinking.

I am brand new to "The HUBs" and Jawed's is the first Hub I read and am very happy indeed that I did. It opened up a world of topics to write about; topics which can have threads going in all sorts of directions. However, for this, my first hub, I will attempt to keep things confined to general thoughts and responses related to some of the points and support which are presented in "New World Order and 2012 ". What I propose is to give a short synopsis of each section and then make observations regarding its content. When necessary, results of some light research will be presented where clarification is needed on facts offered or claims made that don't seem well referenced.

I hope some of you will find this as interesting in the reading as I did in the writing. (Please forgive my often incorrect use of capitalization. It is done for emphasis.)

Thoughts On: "The Hidden Forces"

Do I think there is a conspiracy going on at some level? Absolutely! Do I think that it is secret? Absolutely! Do I think the intended outcome is for the benefit of a few and the detriment of many? As an ex-Vice Presidential candidate once (well a hundred or more times) said " You Betcha'!!".

Do I think, however, this is a conspiracy that is capable of establishing a one-world government with a one-world religion as "New World ..." suggests? Absolutely not! I hope by the end of this hub you will understand why this conclusion makes sense to me and, hopefully, you.

"Hidden Forces" posits that there is a secret group of powerful people who, by the end of 2012, will have formed a "one-world government" with them at the helm. It is implied that this effort has been under way for quite some time and that we will be made aware of the supporting facts which back up the claims and forecasts that are made.

Having read this section, I was extremely interested in finding out more.

Dr. Carroll Quigley and "Tragedy & Hope"


Thoughts and Insights On: "Who Really Makes The Rules?"

This section expands on the last by introducing one of the secret conspiracy groups, International Bankers. Using a comprehensive 1965 history by the Georgetown University historian Dr. Carroll Quigley, it is suggested the International Bankers generally ran, but more importantly, still run the show; both business and government alike. (Note - Dr. Quigley was President Clinton's Professor at Georgetown and received mention by Clinton when he began his run for President as well as at his Democratic Convention acceptance speech.) It is further implied these men accomplish their agenda via various secret and not-so-secret organizations and societies. It was highlighted that the Council on Foreign Relations is funded by banker David Rockefeller. The conclusion drawn in this section is that because Congress and the President 'bailed-out" the banks and other financial institutions in America's recent (and still on-going) financial crisis, it is therefore clear that the International Bankers are still calling the shots today.

I did a quick bit of research on Dr. Quigley's book in order to get a little more background. There is no question in his mind that, prior to 1940, what Jawed asserts is pretty spot on. These guys, the International Bankers, had it all pretty well sewed up; at least for Western society. They were given control of the money flow, and therefore held great sway over the governments and and a death grip around the throat of industry. The name given to this government condoned monopoly on power is "Orthodox" financial policies. That meant that by government policy, those that controlled the banking industry were given the ability to "create" money without regulation and without having virtually any controls or oversight by the European, English, or American governments (were are talking from 1800 to 1940 here). Ironically, it is called "Unorthodox" financial policy when the government took control of this power.

Because a small number of international bankers could manipulate how much money and credit was available, without the government having the legal authority to intervene, they had essentially absolute influence, if not outright control, over public and private policy, both foreign and national. Using Dr. Quigley's research, Jawed further makes the case that these international bankers conspired and may still be conspiring, through organizations such as the Round Tables, the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in the U.K and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in the US and the Trilateral Commission to control the world economy. (see suggested links below).

Prior to 1940. Dr. Quigley found evidence of this through the Round Tables and an associated secret group organized by Lord Alfred Milner and supported by industrialist DeBeers Diamond baron Cecil Rhodes (who set up the Rhodes Scholarship). They did have the sponsors suggested by Jawed in the US as well. However, in the end, it never really went very far. Dr. Quigley noted elsewhere in his book that these men, although they enjoyed the power they had, did not see eye-to-eye on how to exercise it. That is a problem with secret societies.

Further. the RIIA and the CFR did evolve from the Round Tables and are fulfilling the function they were designed to do. That is, provide a source of high powered intellectual thought and analysis on topic of current interest. Are they meant to educate and influence policymakers, I would think so. Are they subversive? They don't appear to be today as its membership is very broad and diverse and in spite the fact that many are rich, famous, influential, and powerful.

It doesn't seem to me that the danger lies here. It seems to me the danger is when the government stupidly turns control of economic affairs over to the financial sector in the name of free-market and capitalism without appropriate controls. This was the state of affairs prior to 1940. It took the Great Depression in 1929 to finally energize governments to put into place the final regulations and laws, the Glass-Steagall Act was one, that wrested control of the economy away from the Banking Cartel. After getting out of the Great Depression, you think we would have learned our collective lesson, but, in 1999, in a compromise between President Clinton and the Republican Congress, the stage was set once more for history to repeat itself ... and it nearly did. Like in 1929, it took a near depression in 2008 to finally move government to change financial policy from "Orthodox" where the power was in the hands of the financial community, to "Unorthodox" where the power is back with the government (although not as firmly as it once was). What scared me in this process is that the minority party very nearly stopped the necessary reform back to sanity in 2010! It is that political and economic dogma and rhetoric that one should keep their eye on.

Thoughts on "The Idea of World Government"

This section lays out where the idea for a One-World Government originated in the late Nineteenth Century. It then identifies the organization within the United States that is currently behind this effort, the before mentioned CFR, as well as the tool to implement the takeover, the United States Federal Reserve System. According to this Hub, the Federal Reserve System is "... controlled by this cartel of private banks ." By this method a "global cartel of financial institutions ..." and "... the powerful elites at the helm of these groups ..." intend to effectively gain " ... total control of this planet and its people." by"... influencing the political system and economy of each country in it." (note: the phrases in quotes are not in that order, and therefore are admittedly taken out of context, but, there is no distortion in meaning from the original). It is here as well where the assertion is made that the conspirators are primarily Masons.

While not quite straight on the facts regarding the origination of the idea of a One World Government, Jawed is still essentially correct. Cecil Rhodes (1853 - 1902) did advocate the establishment of a secret society. While alive, he certainly talked about and acted on his belief of what is basically White Supremacy, British style. But, the genesis of the societies was primarily from his Last Will and Testament where he stated "I contend that we are the first race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race ." and "To and for the establishment, promotion and development of a Secret Society, the true aim and object whereof shall be for the extension of British rule throughout the world, ... " (In the same will he established the Rhodes Scholarship which some say is one attempt to breed the conspirators to further is death wish. Ironically, the opposite results may have been achieved, e.g., President Clinton was a recipient.) That said, it wasn't Cecil Rhodes who moved to form these societies but his friend, Lord Alfred Milner (1854 - 1925). The result, however, is the same. In 1910, Lord Milner founded the Round Table to help promote the cause of the British Imperial Federation. The Round Table still exists today, but in a much less influential form.

At this point, the hub appears to focus on the American arm of this global conspiracy for one-world government. But to analyze it, one must view it from a world perspective. When this is done, an obvious question arises which pertains to the nineteenth, twentieth, and most importantly, the twenty-first century: "How does this group of Anglophiles intend to take over the entire world?" Without probing too deeply at this point, one can see such a case being made if our universe was the English speaking countries or those counties under their control. But when you start to consider the fact this cartel must either include the rest of Europe, Africa, and Asia or assume that England, America and friends will have subjugated the rest of the political systems by 2012.

I would think the first case is highly unlikely from a practical perspective simply because Europe, let alone the rest of the world, has never been able to get along with each other for any length of time. One would have to presume that the cartel, who is make up of highly successful, powerful, ego-centrinc, greedy financiers from England, America, France, Germany, Italy, etc could remain conspirators who are focused on the same overarching objective over the long-term. One would also have to believe that these men could suppress their egos and greed sufficiently so that the whole cartel would not collapse from its own internal bickering and backstabbing. Now if you add to this volatile mixture the bankers from Japan, Taiwan, China, Russia, etc. ... I will leave the result to your imagination.

The second case is equally improbably. At the time the Round Table was formed, Britain was at the height of its imperialistic world domination. The purpose of the Round Table was to keep that domination in place and expand it, if possible. They failed. For that matter, in the last three centuries every attempt by one power or another to dominate the world has ended in failure. It is hard to believe that the outcome would be any different this time around.

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Federal Reserve Districts


Federal Reserve System


"The Real Federal Reserve System" Revisited

At the end of the last section titled "The Idea of World Government" it is claimed that the International Cartel influenced Congress and the Executive branch to create the Federal Reserve System (Fed) of banks. This was done in order to turn these banks over to the control of the very same Cartel of Private banks who were then given the authority to print money and make loans to the US government. This section, titled "Control of the Economy Through The Federal Reserve", starts with a video titled, "The Secret World of Money",that purports to describe the Federal Reserve System and how it works. (The video is by a Mr. Andy Gause, an apparently self-proclaimed "currency historian"; a quick search failed to turn up much background on Mr. Gause. If you have any ideas on where to find such information, please let me know.) Then the nexus between control of the Fed and Global control is presented.