Updated date:

Mar 25, 2019

The Good Old Boys Of The GOP

Author:

Shyron E Shenko

The Goal of the Good Old Boys of the GOP

© by Shyron Shenko

The goal of the Good Old Boys of the GOP -

Is to take President Obama out to sea

They want to drown him is scandals Like the IRS and Benghazi

Then say, it wasn't me! One of the Good Old Boys of the GOP?

The Good Old Boys of the GOP want to drown the President in scandals
Shyron Shenko

After the expiration of Antonin Scalia – March 11, 1936-February 13, 2016

February 13, 2016
The Good-Old Boys are in a quandary
After Antonin Scalia passed away
We must replace him with a conservative
The good old boys all say
We will block Obama’s picks
Until after election day
We'll prevent JUSTICE for all (Pun intended)
So the Supreme Court we can sway
All thought of picking another Bush
Have been swept away

— Shyron E Shenko

And the Good Old Boys of the GOP

With their love of money and their lust for power

They could ruin anyone's finest hour

Like a stab in the back while handing you a flower

The Good Old Boys of the GOP

Are greedy as greedy can be

They say they are nobody's fool

But, they want to destroy our public schools

Mr.Jindal: I just wanna be Persident
Wikimedia Commons by Gage Skidmore

Bobby Jindal's rule, destroy all Public Schools

And just like Bobby Jindal's golden rule

Handing out vouchers is his destructive tool

Vouchers to put the kids in private schools

At least until he has filled the educational pool

Jindal will give you just one hint

In two thousand sixteen he will be running for President

His show of disdain for public education sent

And money from public education, for vouchers has been spent

Jindal thinks that we don't know

And he will tell us all where we can go

With no worry of reaping what he will sow

He will go down with the rest of the GOP in tow

Where will this leave the voucher pupils?

Vouchers given by a man without any scruples

What if the voucher pupils can't get in private schools?

If the private schools don't follow Jindal's rules?

Good Old Boy Karl Rove against the Tea Party

Karl Rove, is thumbing his nose

As the rush of tea tides rose.

He will try to calm the tidal waves

So the Republican Party he can save.

As the elections of two thousand and sixteen nears.

Will the candidates be able to quell his fears?

As they are fighting all through next year

It is Democrats, not steaks the Good Old Boys want to sear!

Conservatives have no plan,

Except to get the upper hand

But they invited the Tea Party to walk right in

Now all the laws and rules they'll bend

They would have us drown in tea

With tea bags over our eyes so we can't see

And with each dirty trick they laugh with glee

Because they think they're fooling you and me

So...Karl Rove if you get swept out to sea

Just remember, when you make your plea

And while you are adrift in a sea of tea

You're one of the ones who invited tea babaggers to tea.

Rove will tell you what he wants you to do

But, the picture shows what he thinks of me and you!

But if that does not tell you what you already knew

He will boil us all in a teapot brew

Ted Cruz: We Need 100 More Like Jesse Helms In Senate

I do not like Obama Care, so said the Canadian-Cuban-American
Shyron's first attempt at a cartoon character

A Hundred Jesse Helms is needed in the Senate.

Ted said a hundred Jesse Helms is needed in the Senate.

But Ted, don't we have more than a hundred already in it?

Ted Cruz praised the things Helms had to say.

And praised the filibuster of 'Martin Luther King Day'

I'm sure Ted thinks from Canada he was heaven sent

To shutdown our government

So says this Canadian-Cuban-American, wannabe President.

And so his opinion he must vent

Good Old Boy Ted Cruz, thinking he will never lose

He hates Obama, but wishes he were in his shoes

Cruz thinks he can lead the way, Obama to impeach

But being unable to read a calendar, he cannot lead or preach

The bank crash of September 2008 was NOT Obama's fault

So you Good Old Boys must get a grip and call a halt

President Obama was NOT sworn into office until 2009

So...you see, you guys and gals are really out of line.

You are wanting to defund Obama Care

And you think people who have to do without is fair?

You said you would talk until you could not stand

With the exception of Dr. Seuss everything you said was bland

While you say it is what we Americans Want

And a threat to shutdown our government is your taunt

You have no right to say what Americans stand for

And you can't ever be our Czar.

Ted Cruz looked into the camera lens and lied

Then Harry Reid he would chide

Reid wants to shutdown the government he cried

As he pretends to be a descent man with pride

It is like our country held for ransom by the lowest sort

Then blames it on the one that is held

How can Reid be to blame?

Just because, he will not pay Cruz's blackmail game?

These tea bags and wind bags both are the same

Before they can heat up the teapot they have blown out the flame

Then because they are serving and drinking cold tea

They will say Obama's to blame

Obamacare undefeated over 50 times

Ted Cruz, wants to defund Obamacare. Each time they tried, WAS HE NOT THERE?
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Good Old Boy Gal Michelle Bachmann

How She got this far no one can tell

Good Old Boy Michelle tries to cover every angle

When on Crossfire with Charlie Rangel she did tangle,

Charlie said, I can't debate with you

You can't even speak the truth.

Obama wants to shut down the government she screamed,

Then this lady got really steamed

While I hate to call Ms. Bachmann a liar

But with all the lies she has told her tongue must be on fire

With Michelle's credibility at stake

Still, her ranting and raving no one can shake

We have to defund Obama Care

Through 42 tries, was she not there?

Charlie asked, do you really think Republicans can survive

When all they have going for them are Kochs and lies

To which Michelle Bachmann replies

Like the Phoenix from the ashes Republicans will rise.

Paul Ryan

Says: we need to ram the Keystone XL pipeline through

So...I tell you what I am going to do

If you don't allow property right-of-way anew

We'll have your property condemned and take it away from you.

You may think that its a sin

But you know that you just can't win

And I need that kickback don't you see

Cause, I am one of the Good Old Boys of the GOP!

Good Old Boy, Rand Paul wants to stop Hillary just for fun.

Rand Paul says Hillary shouldn't be allowed run!

She is not a proven son-of-a-gun

Not like me! I am a son of Ron

Hillary can't be allowed to get away with that!

The Good Old Boys is where it's at.

And we don't need her trying that

So don't allow her to throw in her hat

She needs to just chill and chew the fat

Another reason Hillary should not be allowed to run

Cause, when the day is over and all is said done

She is a still a Democrat

Not a Repub-LIE-CON

We have to remember all the nuts

Who are driving in the same old ruts

Who haven't got the decency or the guts

To do what is right for rest of us,

cause just like Nugient they think we are mutts

Dwight D. Eisenhower, One (1) descent Republican, but not a Tea Party one.
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The GOP Tea Party

In their campaign, Tea Party people say; Oh! I want to work for you.

But when in office say: I will tell YOU what to do.

The Tea Party people don't Care if Obamacare is LAW.

Poor people getting insurance is what the saw.

So...off to Washington they went

But they are not there to represent, they are there for their own intent

The Tea Party is there to cause dissent

And to shutdown our government

If the ransom they demand is paid

Social Security is the next thing the Good Old Boys will take away

Then they will say: you don't need it, as long as we still get our pay

And you can try to get Social Security back some other day

The good-old boys are in a quandary Over the death of Antonin Scalia, February 13, 2016

We must pick a conservative

The good old boys all say

We will block Obama’s picks

Until after election day

We'll prevent JUSTICE for all (Pun intended)

So the Supreme Court we can sway

All thought of picking another Bush

Have been swept away

Comments

C E Clark from North Texas on October 31, 2020:

Things seem to only be getting worse since I was last here. Read today that there are Trump supporters following the campaign bus around that has some candidates and campaign workers on it. They tried to run the bus off the road and crashed into one of the campaign staffers car. This was in Texas. When police were called the police refused to get involved in part because the Trump supporters had guns. The T-supporters managed to prevent 2 campaign events from happening in Texas and in other places before that. Where are the gun happy cops when you need them, and since they like to shoot people who have weapons or they imagine to have weapons, today was the perfect opportunity to target practice. None of the T-supporters were black, so maybe that was their reason for not doing their jobs or shooting anybody. Google it if you like to get more details.

This country has really gone shithole all the way with Trump at the helm. Posting this on AH &N FB.

Blessings, dear friend.

Randy Godwin from Southern Georgia on February 03, 2020:

I agree, CE. We must go through the motions even though Trump is trying hard to meddle in the election with the aid of the Senate.

It's embarrassing for the citizens of our Republic to have a dumbass as leader of the free world!

C E Clark from North Texas on February 03, 2020:

Randy, I often think voting is a waste of time given that Putin is all but certain to install Trump again in this fall's election. Given how so many of the members of Congress have changed their minds about the way they used to talk about Trump, I think they must be getting paid off now too. Even so, voting is all we have, but do we really even have that? We must vote since that is our only possible hope, even though I think it's going to make no difference.

Randy Godwin from Southern Georgia on January 31, 2020:

Indeed, and the way Trump operates, we can't really be sure our votes even count any longer, Au fait. Here In Georgia, Kemp threw man black voters off the books while running against Stacy Abrams for Governor.

Trump hasn't really been interested in stopping the Russians--or anyone else for that matter--from meddling in our elections. Isn't Ivanka somehow invested in voting machines at the present? There you go!

C E Clark from North Texas on January 31, 2020:

A great drawing of Ted Cruz!

The "good 'ol boys of the GOP" don't seem so good these days. Not to me anyway. They seem like the corrupt 'ol boys of the GOP. I really think many of them are paid agents of Russia anymore. They would never stand for any Democrat to do the things Trump has done and continues to do.

Blessings dear friend . . .

C E Clark from North Texas on December 17, 2019:

The "Good oldl boys of the GOP," are currently refusing to do what they are supposed to regarding a trial in the Senate for our illustrious president, once he is impeached -- expected in the next day or so. Both Graham and McConnell state they have already made up their minds without hearing testimony or reading the report made about the impeachment. Both are required to take an oath prior to sitting on the Senate jury and both have sworn during interviews that they will not keep their oaths. They need to be impeached too.

What a disaster for democracy and for this country the Trump presidency has been from the start and remains to this day!

Posting this on AH & FB.

Blessings, dear friend . . .

C E Clark from North Texas on September 07, 2019:

It almost seems like some if not all of the Republican leadership are also agents of Russia (or assets, if you prefer). Pence is just as bad, maybe worse, than Trump -- I read yesterday that Pence & Trump have a little feud going . . .

Hurricane Dorian screw up aside, Trump has been a busy fat bee doing all manner of horrible things.

Discovered yesterday (a light bulb came on in my head) that Trump supporters actually believe previous presidents from both parties were similar to Trump in the things they said and did. They think we're unfairly picking on Trump when Bush, Obama, and Clinton, all did the very same things!

You'd think we could recognize Trump supporters because they're hopping along with their heads up their you know whats. I guess Fox News must be feeding them all those lies and ludicrous bits of info, because I was really surprised yesterday when a friend made a statement about previous presidents all having done the same things as Trump, but no one picked on them. It's like they live in a different world. They really seem to think facts are commi-pinko inventions and so they make up their own and never bother to verify anything! They are so uninformed and ignorant that it boggles the mind.

This particular friend and I have never talked politics before and believe it or not, I listened more than I talked yesterday, so this person imagines that I am a supporter of Trump also. For that reason (I believe) this person talked more sincerely than they might have if they knew what I really think.

Lots of pundits say the Republican Party has been assimilated into a Trump Party and that the Republican Party no longer exists. They say the Republican Party has been destroyed for all intents and purposes.

A couple of Congressmen say they are challenging Trump in the next election, but the Republican Party refuses to have primaries, essentially preventing the challenges.

Something tells me it's going to get more interesting before it's over. Trump is talking more seriously about having more than 2 terms.

Me thinks the "Good Ole Boys" of the GOP are stretching things too far and something's going to snap one of these times. I really think the Russians are going to interfere in the next presidential election again, and maybe in some of the congressional races too.

Well, I hope all is well with you. They say our hundred degree weather is due to leave us after this bout with it. I hope so. Blessings dear friend . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 24, 2019:

Au fait, thank you for your comments, I appreciate you more than you know.

The maligning of John McCain is way over the top, but thumpers jealousy is eating him up andcritize he can’t do anything but criticize the one man who was everything he can’t come near to being and it galls him.

What I can’t understand is the GOP is so scared of the tanning booth tom they will defend him to the death of party.

Blessings my dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on March 22, 2019:

Just imagine if a non-Republican were to say all the ugly lies about John McCain that Trump is spewing 7 months after the man died and can't defend himself!

Interesting how Captain Bone Spurs feels entitled to criticize people who showed up to do their duty and serve their country, when he cowardly sat in school where his father bought him a degree at an Ivy League school.

There seems to be no low too low for Trump to stoop. No despicable thing he does is too low for his supporters either. Any non-Republican who dared to utter even one of the dozens of ugly things Trump is whining about McCain would have been skewered and crucified, but it is acceptable coming from Trump according to his supporters.

Why can't we all just get along? This situation is just one more answer to that question that is apparently beyond the comprehension of Republicans. So much for the Good 'Ol Boys . . .

C E Clark from North Texas on December 12, 2018:

Did you see what Orin Hatch said about Trump's criminal activity the other day? Hatch really should resign/retire. He's such a hypocrite, and it would seem that all of the Republicans' brains have turned to mush, or worse. The corruption in our government stinks to the high heavens.

Hope you are well and prepared to go back into the freezer, possibly an ice storm on the way. Take care dear friend. Blessings . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 20, 2018:

Au fait/Cee, I think I missed some of your comments, but I thank you for all of them, I do appreciate you. I just read one about you cataract surgery, I hope it went well.

Blessings my dear friend

C E Clark from North Texas on September 18, 2018:

The Good 'Ol Boys Club was never so obvious as now.

That's an excellent drawing of Cruz! I think he's very likely to lose this coming election in favor of Beto.

Hope all is well with you Shyron. Take care, dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on July 26, 2018:

Seems to me "The Good 'Ol Boys of the GOP," need to do their jobs. Trump is methodically destroying the stature and credibility of this country, not to mention turning it into a world pariah and angering all of our decades long allies and friends.

Posting this poem on FB and Awesome HubPages. Getting ready for my 2nd cataract surgery tomorrow morning. Hope all is well with you dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on April 16, 2018:

Oh what a sticky, messy web we weave when we elect people to office who only deceive. Trump is so panicky and desperate to end the Russian investigation that you have to know he is scared to death of what is waiting to be discovered. He reminds me of a wild animal that has suddenly been ensnared or caged. They will literally die trying to escape often times. I can only believe that Trump has done something really horrific to keep carrying on as he has for months now. If he knows he has done nothing wrong, where's the problem in discovering exactly what went awry to cause the election to be thrown to Trump?

Seems strange so many Republicans are choosing not to run for their seats again, yet they allow Trump to behave worse than the worst 2-year old, and to do things that will have adverse effects on this country for a very long time.

Blessings dear friend. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 15, 2018:

Au Fait, I too think the Greedy Ol Politicians are enablers. pence is keeping a low profile because he plans to run for president 2020.

I don't think they would admit it if they thought trump were bought by Russia, they would just say it was Hillary.

Hope all is well with you

Blessings dear friend

C E Clark from North Texas on March 01, 2018:

I think the "Good Ol' Boys" are enablers and they should share in whatever ends up happening to Trump when the investigation is over. With Pence head of Trump's transition team, he had to know if there was collusion and who was involved. Can''t imagine he kept that to himself.

Did I tell you they have some GOP congress members on tape, including Ryan, talking about how Trump is a paid agent for Russia? Will be interesting to find out if it's true or mere gossip. If I were a Republican and Hillary were being accused of this I would just accept it as factual gossip, but not being a Republican, I allow that it may be manufactured. I expect Mueller will get to the bottom of it.

Hope all is the best it can be there. Blessings dear friend . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 09, 2017:

Au fait, thank you for the comments and compliments.

I thought of adding to this poem, but the disillusionment from the HP staff who keeps dropping my Hub score to discourage me, it is like they are goading me into leaving HP and with all the yard work, it is hard to find the time to do anything.

I do hope all is well with you, I will try to give you a call soon.

Take Care and Blessings my dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on June 20, 2017:

You really need to add to this excellent poem to include the most recent administrations.

Trump's threat to send troops into Mexico wasn't to force them to pay for the wall but to fight their drug cartels. The man makes no sense. Did you know many of the edicts he signed were merely for show because he doesn't have the authority to overturn most of them, only Congress can do that. So they were all a show to satisfy his easily satisfied base.

Hope you and John and Chipper are staying cool. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 02, 2017:

Thank you my dear friend for the comment. trump not only alienated all people of our country and several other countries and threatened Mexico that he would send in US troops, and for what reason? Our troops can't force Mexico to pay for the wall, and trump endangered the US soldiers by saying he will take the Iraq oil.

I half was expected President Regan to come back and say Mr. trump tear down that wall, before it is build.

Hope all is well with you also, many Blessings to you.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 18, 2016:

I really need to add Trump to this but don't want to change anything.

C E Clark from North Texas on June 13, 2016:

This excellent poem comes to mind when I think of the infighting of the GOP over Trump. With the friends Republicans are to each other, do any of them need enemies? They are shooting themselves in the foot. Entertaining if a little sophomoric. Sharing.

Hope you are feeling good and having a good day! John too. Take care . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 14, 2016:

February 13, 2016

The Good-Old Boys are in a quandary

After Antonin Scalia passed away

We must replace him with a conservative

The good old boys all say

We will block Obama’s picks

Until after election day

We'll prevent JUSTICE for all (Pun intended)

So the Supreme Court we can sway

All thought of picking another Bush

Have been swept away

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 14, 2016:

Au fait, thank you so much for the comment and for sharing

The good'ol boys are in a quandary

Over the death of Antonin Scalia

We must pick a conservative

The good old boys all say

We will block Obama’s picks

Until after election day

We'll prevent JUSTICE for all (Pun intended)

Then we will have the say

Blessings and hugs my dear friend

C E Clark from North Texas on February 04, 2016:

Well, the good 'ol boys seem to be divided these days. The Republican Party seems to be in chaos in a manner of speaking. They don't seem to have a candidate they can all get behind. They're all sort of fringe candidates. Trump is the predicted winner of the New Hampshire primary coming up. Wonder if that will end like the Iowa one did. He was polling ahead there too.

Don't really understand why they're saying Trump lost badly in Iowa since he tied with Rubio and is only 1 vote behind Cruz. They're all neck and neck it looks like to me -- in Iowa that is. Should be interesting to see what NH does.

Hope all is well and that you and John are staying warm. To be chilly for the next several days. Blessings dear friend. Take care . . .

Sharing . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 03, 2015:

Au fait, thank you for the comment. I can't see Sarah Palin loving up to the trumpeter since he is going Rogue (looks like) and if he runs as an Independent maybe she thinks that she could become a half term VP.

Hope you are cooler than 4 days ago.

Blessings and hugs

C E Clark from North Texas on August 29, 2015:

I read today that Sarah Palin interviewed The trumpeter for some TV station that was giving her audition. Read that it was a love-in.

Sharing this poem again.

Currently 99 degrees here and I know it's hotter where you are. Hope you're in a cool place. Blessings and hugs to you both. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 30, 2015:

Au fait, thank you for the comment. I have it written a new stanza, to be added soon.

I was too late, I did not see the 85. Hope these changing Hubber scores don't chase off the Squids.

Oops, you told HP

They gave an 85 to me

So they thought the other hubbers

would be sore, and dropped me

Back down to 84!

Blessings and Hugs to you my dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on March 28, 2015:

Won't be long and you can write another stanza or two including whoever is to be in charge next. I think it is so corrupt there's no fix.

Note your score is up to 85. Mine dropped another point. Note a few other people's did too, while some people's, like yours, rose. Having a hard time concentrating on this writing with all the issues I have to deal with right now and that hubber score is so depressing that I just can't talk myself into sitting down long enough to write anything.

Hope you enjoyed today. Won't be long and it's going to be sweltering. Really a little too hot for me today, but I survived. Blessings and hugs for you both. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on January 22, 2015:

My Esoteric, thank you for reading this again and leaving a comment and compliment.

Blessings and hugs dear friend

Scott Belford from Keystone Heights, FL on January 22, 2015:

This is as true today as it was 15 months ago. Great work!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on January 21, 2015:

Yes the steam was thick and the room was thick with rudeness, but you should have seen Ted Cruz, he was going to do a rebuttal to the President's speech, he got so bumfuzzled he did not get out but one to two sentences then gave up, and he plans to run for President?

Stayed in all day, funny I did not hurt at all today and no stiffness. It was raining about 4pm.

I hope you are staying dry.

TTYL

Blessings and Hugs

C E Clark from North Texas on January 21, 2015:

I guess the 'Good 'Ol Boys' are having quite a time after the State of the Union Speech. I've read they're working on the Keystone issue again and likely to have their plans vetoed. In fact I read that the people involved in the Keystone pipeline have made other plans because they got tired of the hold-up. Regardless, it sounds like Republicans are fussing and fuming. Sharing this again.

Hope you got your outdoor work done for a while as it's to rain for a couple of days and be chilly again. I hope you weren't in too much pain today. I thought about you and how stiff and sore you probably were. I hope you'll both take things a little easier for a few days and get healed up. Then please be extra careful in future. I know how easy it is to miss something when one is in a hurry.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 19, 2014:

Au fait, thank you for the comments, up votes and for sharing.

I think that both Liberals and conservatives are a wee bit anxious.

I guess what ever will be, will be

You have a Blessed week, hope it is cool for you.

C E Clark from North Texas on October 18, 2014:

Upcoming elections are predicted to favor Republicans in the Senate and Democrats in gubernatorial races. Wonder if the 'Good 'ol Boys, ' are anxious right about now with only a little over 2 weeks 'til the election . . .

Voted up and awesome! Will share.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on August 07, 2014:

Au fait, my dear friend, thank you for the up votes, and sharing and thank you for the hint, I will follow up on the new stanza. need to do some more research on this. God help us if this man becomes our next president. If he does then all of Texas has never paid attention to all the shanigans going on in our state government.

From everything I have heard from him and about him he is a minature of GWB, but not quite as smart.

John had a doctor's visit yesterday, good review everything stable.

Yesterday our indoor/outdoor temp showed 104° F.

F for flaming. we were out all day.

Blessings to you also.

C E Clark from North Texas on August 07, 2014:

Looks like you'll soon be able to write another stanza, this one for Mr. Perry. Read how he is busily making himself over in order to run again. 'They' believe the reason he lost the last primary was because during a debate he couldn't think of a 3rd department of something he could do away with after making a big deal about doing away with at least 3 departments if he became president.

Apparently he wanted to get rid of the Department of Commerce, which includes the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, The Census Bureau, the National Weather Service. He also wanted to do away with the Departments of Energy and Education. Expect he's added to those by now and has worked on memorizing their names so as not to look too forgetful in future debates.

Voted up, interesting, and sharing with followers.

Hope all is well. Too hot to be outside for the next several days. Were you the one telling me all the hot days were going to come late summer/early fall? Today is to be 101 F. Blessings for you and John.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 25, 2014:

Thank you Laura for you continued comments on this article.

I don't know much about Jim McDougal, except for what Susan said of him. The only thing I know is that Kenneth Starr and the Republicans searched for anything they could to discredit anything President Clinton did to get him out of office so they would have to Presidential power. And they transferred that hatred to President Obama. God help us if they get total control.

Laura on July 24, 2014:

Thanks Shyron for the excerpts. I was fully convinced of the Clinton's innocence and the relentless smear campaign when I read Hillary's chapter....seems the only difference in Susan's and Hillary's story, which actually is quite significant, is Hillary paints Jim as someone who pulled the wool over the Clintons, that he was part of the mess, rather than a victim of it.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 23, 2014:

I wrote more aboute this in my hub "What I Believe"

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 23, 2014:

Hi Laura, sorry to take so long to answer your comment.

According to Susan McDougal, the woman who wouldn't talk (www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070116_susan_mcdougal_the_woman_who_wouldnt_talk) the dinner was the first and only time she met Bill and Hillary Clinton and the deal between the Clintons and McDougals had nothing to do with "White Water" persay.

Per Susan McDougal: MCDOUGAL: I think it’s really interesting that the one thing that they could really go after Clinton on was this little real estate deal. My husband and I had gone up to northwestern Arkansas; we had found this piece of land with a beautiful stream running through it. We bought it, and we went to dinner one night at the Black Eyed Pea restaurant. It’s Southern fried food. The Clintons came in and sat with us. Jim said, “We found this great piece of land. We’re going to divide it into tracts. And we had a history—that’s what we were doing for a living—of making money.

So we sat down to dinner with them and Jim said to them, “Why don’t you come into this deal with us? It would be fun. We could go up there and look at the land together. It would get you out of politics, out of Little Rock. It would be a diversion. We could make some money together. It eventually—because interest rates went to 23 percent under Jimmy Carter—lost money. We were selling it on contract for 10 percent, and paying the bank 23 percent. It doesn’t take a genius to see that that deal isn’t going to work. We all lost money. It’s the first scandal in history, that I can think of, in which all four principals lost money. But the most amount of money at any one time that ever passed through this little land deal was $300,000. The whole story behind Whitewater was that the banker who loaned us the money was crooked.

The FBI raided his office and they found that he had been making all sorts of illegal loans—to his family, to his friends—putting names of companies on these loans that didn’t even exist. So he went to the prosecutor and said, “Look, I can give you this guy running for president, Bill Clinton. I made an illegal loan to his company. I loaned him $300,000. Clinton came to me in the dark and said that the money is actually for my campaign.” That was the whole story. David Hale, the banker that we loaned the money from, did less time in jail than I did for civil comtempt; [after he stole] millions of dollars from the federal government and making up all these loans. He was the crux of the entire story that they put in the New York Times that Jeff Gerth wrote about. And it was a lie from beginning to end.

this never would have been a story, except for the national press was investigating Clinton. He was running for president, and this guy saw his opportunity to save himself from prosecution. He had been charged with so many felony counts on each loan that was illegal; and it was hundreds of felony counts, and he was going to prison for the rest of his life, and he said, “Look, one of these loans is to Bill Clinton, who’s running for president, and I’ll testify against him.”

Even the Starr Report, at the end, had two references to Whitewater. In the entire Starr report! At the end. And it said [that there had been] no wrongdoing on the part of the Clintons having to do with Whitewater. The Clintons literally had no day-to-day operational part in this development—whatsoever! The only thing they ever knew about it was what we met over dinner and said, “It’s selling pretty well. We’ve sold six or seven lots.” And they said, “Oh, good. That’s great.” Or we’d say, “Interest rates have jumped up at the bank and we’re showing a loss now. We’ve got to put some more money into it. They had nothing to do with it. It wasn’t something I had to go home and say, “Gosh!” No when the independent counsel came to me with this story, and said, “Did the Clintons tell you to go borrow money, and you loaned it to them, and you lied on the application? Did that happen?” This isn’t really something I had to go home and think about.” Like when someone asks you if a friend broke the law, and you think: Could that have happened? It absolutely never happened. It couldn’t have happened. Clinton raised millions of dollars for his campaign. He’s one of the best fund-raisers in American history. That he was asking Susan McDougal to go to a bank and borrow $300,000 for a small business loan, in order to steal money for a campaign, is ludicrous.

But it was never about the truth of it. It was never about whether they were guilty or innocent. It was really about the smear. Could they put this tag on this guy running for president, and stop him in his tracks? It was really about the smear more than anything, because at the outset, they wanted me to say that I had had sex with him.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 23, 2014:

Laura, There was a guy who worked for Starr who was—Jim McDougal called him the snake handler. He was the most right-wing religious zealot you could imagine. And from the beginning, he said, “We can get Clinton on morals. We can stop him from becoming president on moral character.” And they wanted me to say from the very beginning that I had had sex with Clinton. And I could have had nothing to do with the Whitewater charges, which I immediately said were not true, and you could never find a penny of that money that was spent illegally or wrongly. And I knew that they would never find any evidence on it. So it was really about the smear of him than any real, true evidence.

Laura on July 21, 2014:

Yes. In reading Hillary's bio, her version of Whitewater if I recall was all about the smear, the unrelenting pointed attack on Bill (and her) that would permanently alter Bill's public credibility and how over time she and Bill realized Jim's dealings were unethical. I need to go back and review her chapter on Whitewater again, but from my memory she pointed the finger at the Republicans, Ken Starr and very clearly, at Jim. She wrote that she and Bill simply borrowed and invested in what Jim convinced them was a solid Whitewater deal...another project Castle Grand, Hillary's law firm Rose provided legal counsel...layers and layers to this story (Hillary devotes a whole chapter, if I recall). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controvers... In the midst, the opposition tried to pin Vince Foster's death on the Clintons..anything that made the public "see" that behind the Clinton's lurks evil..... again, while I think Bill was a moron for Monica, from what I've read and seen, they're both up front with the public.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 20, 2014:

When Susan McDougal refused to implicate the Clintons in the Whitewater fiasco, she was thrown in prison, left alone with murderers and her own stubborn dignity. Savaged by Republicans and abandoned by Democrats, she would emerge from that dark chapter of American history a hero.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 20, 2014:

Thank you Laura, for further commenting on this issue.

Susan McDougals met the Clintons only once and they were seen having dinner with them. The McDougals had borrowed money to purchase some property. The Banker who loaned them the money was in some kind of trouble The whole story behind Whitewater was that the banker who loaned us the money was crooked.

(I have to re read Susan McDougal, the woman who would not talk)

Jim McDougal was not as strong as Susan and the beat him down, until he agreed to change his truthful story to the one made up by Kenneth Starr, Jim thought that would stop the harrassment, but they put Jim in jail and he died there, Starr betrayed Jim.

Susan McDougal in an interview with

TRUTHDIG said: —except the fact that we were telling the truth, which didn’t seem to matter very much, and to see Jim turn into this person who was willing to lie and laugh about it, and to tell jokes about it, was really what made me, more than any other thing, say to myself: I will never have anything to do with those people. Never will I become that person that I see Jim becoming.

Susan's statement to her mom, about the Clintons, “I don’t know a thing those people have ever done that was illegal, immoral, wrong.” And I remember, she stood up, and said, “It’s what Hitler did: He would turn people against other people and make them testify against them. And send them to concentration camps and threaten them if they didn’t.” And she said, “If we beat that guy, we can beat this guy.”

It was never about whether they were guilty or innocent. It was really about the smear. Could they put this tag on this guy running for president, and stop him in his tracks? It was really about the smear more than anything, because at the outset, they wanted me to say that I had had sex with him. There was a guy who worked for Starr who was—Jim McDougal called him the snake handler. He was the most right-wing religious zealot you could imagine. And from the beginning, he said, “We can get Clinton on morals. We can stop him from becoming president on moral character.” And they wanted me to say from the very beginning that I had had sex with Clinton. And I could have had nothing to do with the Whitewater charges, which I immediately said were not true, and you could never find a penny of that money that was spent illegally or wrongly. And I knew that they would never find any evidence on it. So it was really about the smear of him than any real, true evidence.

Laura on July 20, 2014:

Yep I'm pretty slow (and distractable too). Oh, I'm sorry I didn't communicate well. I'm reading Hillary's bio, Living History and in it she mentions both McDougals...I don't recall hearing of the accusation of Bill and Susan but I know the Clinton's have been accused of conspiracy to murder Vince Foster, etc, so why not that...and Bill, despite his plusses, was a philandering cheating liar (not much for cheaters...never had it happen to me, but trust is sacred). My next hub when I finally finish it, is a travel article on wine country.... an eclectic article for sure....

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 19, 2014:

Laura, believe me I understand, it takes me forever to (or seems that way) to get an article finished) with all the interuptions and the outside work.

In don't know if Susan has written a bio. Living History was written by Hillary and I don't know that she would mention Susan, maybe Jim McDougal who was Susan's husband. I seem to remember he was also jailed for no reason. And Starr also wanted Jim to dish dirt on President.

Susan McDougal: The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk ... is the story.

Thank you Laura, for your continued comments.

I look forward to reading your hubs.

Blessings

Shyron

Laura on July 19, 2014:

What a lovely way you have of engaging people Shyron. I haven't contributed much here (not prolific, takes me days to do one article, even a week, plus other writing work I do)....Wow, I don't think I even came across that fact in her bio I'm reading (her first one "Living History"). That's truly despicable.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 18, 2014:

Thank you again Laura, I really appreciat you. I remember when Ken Starr had Susan McDougal jailed because she refused to say that she had an affair with President Clinton.

I wonder how many people remember that?

Have a blessed night my friend

Shyron

Laura on July 18, 2014:

Happy to comment, I try to be open to all sides and as an Indy at least hear the GOP (and yes, the Tea Party too), I can't abide by personal attacks, hostile, unfounded/unsubstantiated attacks. If you could read her chapter on Whitewater and realize the lengths to which the Clintons were the products of an unrelenting a long long witch hunt (even AFTER independent reviews unequivocally cleared their name)....insane.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 18, 2014:

Laura, thank you so much, I am so happy to see you. I am glad you like this piece. Hillary does not even have to do anything to get attacked. The Good Ole Boys are so scared that she will do something for the people, and the more she does the worse they look, because they show what they are.

Thank you Laura for your lengthy comment, I appreciate you, very much.

Blessings.

Laura on July 17, 2014:

Read this a while back, still love it. I'm in the midst of reading Hillary's first bio (I've been reading it very slowly). It's true that if HC did 1/2 of what some of the good ole' boys did she'd be crucified. I'm not a believer in voting by demographics (meaning don't vote BECAUSE someone is a woman or black or...consider that progress overdue but not THE reason) but I've long been for Hillary for a long list of reasons, experience, her early work in health care, her programs for Women and Children (ChIP), her experience in domestic and foreign relations, her fortitude and resilience (yep those too) and on...In a book I long ago read by Bob Woodward on the Clintons (that included feedback from supporters AND long time adversaries) his conclusion is that He is brilliant, but less authentic in some regards due to his charm factor ability to convince... she is incredibly smart and despite her low Jane Q Public warmth factor, her integrity is untouchable, stellar. Uncompromised.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 16, 2014:

Au fait, I did not know they all got raises for what they did not do.

Then they will take our earned benefits away for what the want to do.

Thank you for sharing and pinning and all that you do.

I thought that AH was only for HP too.

You have a very blessed day, right now I have to go out in the sun to play.

Shyron

C E Clark from North Texas on July 15, 2014:

Won't be long and it will be time for them to start their magic again -- the 'ol boys that is. You know they all got raises of about $3,000 each recently right? While they were cutting benefits to the military and poor people.

Sharing this again and pinned it to AH with Mr. Rove. I note that somebody has pinned a bunch stuff from Bubblews onto AH. Thought the board was for HP only . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on June 06, 2014:

Au fait, I don't think the average voter has figured that out yet.

Thank you my dear friend for the votes , pin and sharing.

C E Clark from North Texas on June 06, 2014:

They're always up to something it seems. Does any member of Congress ever actually do anything? Seems like we pay them that $174,000 + to bicker all the time.

Voted up and AI. Pinned and shared.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on June 02, 2014:

Don't they get it??? If the President and Hillary did the things they are accused of, they would be Republicans!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 05, 2014:

Au fait, thank you again for you comments votes, sharing and pinning. I am so glad we had a chance to talk also. What is that saying in that you have? "It is like the devil trying to out Satan, Lucifer.

I hope all is well with you.

God Bless you my dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on May 04, 2014:

They're something aren't they? Seems like they're trying to outdo themselves daily when it comes to hair brained ideas and statements. Will be interesting to see who they come up with for their candidate in a year or so . . . love the way they took that pic of Karl. ;)

Voted up, AI, and will share. Also, pinned to AH. Glad I had a chance to talk to you a couple of times this weekend. Only 5 more weeks of work -- thought it was 4 . . . oh well.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 26, 2014:

Joel is the Krause,

Who want to get in the House

The dirty louse

He is ranting and raving

The kickbacks he is craving

We need to bring the influence of "We the People" to Washington

But he does not have a clue what "We the People" do

We'll send him to a tea party or two

There he'll be tea bagged, like to us he wants to do

Krause said he wants to bring common sense to Congress

Maybe he will vote for Hillary too

Like "W" was going to dignity back to the white house

But to do that he would have to have resigned

But he didn't do that, did he?

Mr. Krause said the incumbent has only past one bill

Tthat is why he want to be on Capitol Hill

But "We the People" don't want him in the House of Representatives

Cause no matter how he spins it

We can't afford to have a Krause in it

Writing for Hillary, I agree, we would have more fun tell the truth

Than the lying GOP

Ruby Jean Richert from Southern Illinois on February 25, 2014:

Who is Krause?

The whitehouse belongs to us

Never forget to make a fuss

When a snake wiggles through

His odor will let us know, phew!

I believe we the people have our eye's wide open again

We ' ain't gonna let no snakes come in

Bubba ' dun ' ' ruint ' any chance a good ole boy will ever grace the steps of the whitehouse, never

' Course them snakes shed their skin's, some of um is downright clever

I think Hillary should hire us to be her writers. lol Hee

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 23, 2014:

I do hope for the safety of us

We can get rid of those rusty old nuts

They're not what they are cracked up to be

Except to deceive you and me

Aw..but now there is a Krause

Who wants in the house

He will gnaw and chew like any old mouse

Somehow we must keep vermin out

Ruby Jean Richert from Southern Illinois on February 23, 2014:

Yes, the ruts in our roads run deep

Enough that it robs you of sleep

Why can't all people see

The greed and lies like we?

Hopefully eyes will open

And vote the nuts out of office, just ' hopin'

Smiling....

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 21, 2014:

We have to remember all the nuts

Who are driving in the same old ruts

Who haven't got the decency or the guts

To do what is right for rest of us,

cause just like Nugient they think we are mutts

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 18, 2014:

Thank you Ruby, I so....happy that we can be friends.

God Bless you

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 18, 2014:

Thank you Ruby, I so....happy that we can be friends.

God Bless you

Ruby Jean Richert from Southern Illinois on February 18, 2014:

HaHa..Heeee...That we will be, friends with loaded guns. Love it! Thank you...

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on February 17, 2014:

Whoo Hoo, always exploring, way to go

Where have you been, my new friend?

You should have come roaring

While you were exploring

For you will see, being friends with me

Will never get boring

I do hope that Hillary runs

But I fear for her safety

From those Kochsoaking guns

They will Cruz right in on tar-sand oil and beer

As Rand Paul brings up the rear

But with you and me pal

The military is hear

With our pens drawn our writing is clear

Don't mess with the DNC

Cause we'll stick together

You and me!

Ruby Jean Richert from Southern Illinois on February 17, 2014:

OMG, where have you been?

I loved this rant my DNC friend.

The GOP all filled with greed

They care not what we need

A home, a car, food on the table

Maybe a TV and a little left to pay for cable

Hillary is gonna run, that's a fact

We keep in touch, her bags are packed

It's just like Franklin D. said long ago

The only thing to fear is the GOP and Carl Rowe

Happy days are here again

I do believe i've found a new friend.

Whoo Hoo!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 31, 2013:

Thank you Laura for your high praise and for tweeting, votes and for sharing. You are truly appreciated.

Laura on October 31, 2013:

Shyron this is fantastic. Use of humor, satire, cartoons and poetry to air your feelings about the ole GOP is clever, witty and oh so creative. Well done!

Doing all the good stuff, tweeting, voting up, sharing etc.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 20, 2013:

Aunt Jimi, thank you for the comment. It is not my pencil that needs to be sharpened at the moment.

Yes I got Au fait's message, I think you and Au fait are awesome also. And you know you both are my dearest friends. I don't know what I would do without you both.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on October 20, 2013:

Wanted to give this another share. I like it. I haven't seen a lot of political poetry and I think this is really fun. You should probably get your pencil sharpened because we're going to have another round in Jan/Feb when this last settlement wears off. Another awesome too!

My friend Au fait tells me she put a message on your FB wall las' night. Did you get it?

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 14, 2013:

You are so welcome Martie, your smile made me smile ;-)

Thank you for your comments! ;-)

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 14, 2013:

Lyricwriter, thank you for the compliments and up-votes. I can't wait for 2014 elections also. I agree with everything you have said here, and I did not vote for any of them the right wing nuts either. I don't care about the glitches in Obama Care, I am just glad it gives you insurance. I am on Medicare and before that I did not have insurance for many years and had insurance companies scam me out of application fees and then say pre-existing conditions, but would not return application fees. My jobs did not have insurance either. I had to take contract jobs, the one job I had with insurance, was lost when Bush Jr. was elected, my whole office was laid off, and Cobra insurance was $1000. plus a month, so without a job I could not afford it. If my husband (Countdown to a Miracle) had not been on Medicare when he had his accident we would be homeless and broke.

You can't imagine how good it feels to have someone who understands what I have written. I have two brothers, one a Republican and one a Democrat; two sons one a Republican and one a Democrat.

Cruz, is evil, period. For a person to stand there and say that President Obama shut down the government, is EVIL.

Thank you lyricwriter, I really appreciate you.

--Shyron

Martie Coetser from South Africa on October 14, 2013:

Amazing! Seems to be if politicians all over the world are struggling to impress anyone with their so-called brilliant ideas and plans. Your problems are not less complicated than ours :)

You have made me smile from beginning to end. Thanks Shyron :)

Richard Ricky Hale from West Virginia on October 14, 2013:

Pure genius Shyron! Voted up and all across, shared on Facebook. You have all kinds of great talents. I can't wait until the elections in 2014, that's what I'm waiting on. We all are seeing what's going on. We see exactly what these Republican charatcers are doing and standing for. We know that they planned this shutdown before taking the second term. I didn't vote for any of them. If I did, I'd feel ashamed. Yes, Obama Care has glitches, but I'll tell you what it gives me. For the first time in 10 years, I'll have access to healthcare. I've had medical issues for the past 4 years and couldn't afford to get what I need done. Ever job that I've held in the past decade never had insurance. Those who have millions and insurance, you'll never understand. We all have the right to medical insurance, affordable at that. Other countries have free healthcare.

I'll never vote for any of them. Cruz is an idiot, Helms is another. I hope all of them lost their seats. America needs to wake up and realize that these GOP characters are hurting America. Imagine if they were in elected to the White House? Look how much they are costing America everyday of the shutdown. So much for not spending, their all a huge "JOKE."

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 12, 2013:

Au fait, thank you for you comments up votes and sharing my hub and thank you for the compliment.

Republicans strayed to long at the tea party and now they have gotten drunk on their own power and have done some dumb things and if the ransom isn't paid (which I hope it will not be) I don't know what will happen to our country.

Once the GOP attended the tea party they lost all their direction. I can tell you it must be Spike Lee, I mean Spiked Tea.

C E Clark from North Texas on October 12, 2013:

I understand the Republican Party has the lowest approval rate in their history right now. Unlikely Mr. Reagan would recognize his own part as it is right now. I think Republican leaders may now regret having allowed the Tea Party to meld with their own party. If they had let the Tea Partiers form their own third party they would have already been history, but as it is now, as part of the Republican Party, it's a strong possibility right now that the Tea Party will take the Republican Party down with it.

Republicans used to be capable of negotiating and compromising for the good of the country, but now with the Tea Party running their party, they no longer have the country's best interests at heart. I think some Republicans do want to do the right thing, but their hands are tied, and like the rest of us, they too are being held hostage.

Excellent drawing!

Voted up and awesome! Will share.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 07, 2013:

Thank you Aunt Jimi, for sharing I really appreciate you. I don't know why people can't see what these creeps are doing to our country. I heard ted cruz saying the President shutdown the government, and some people that I know believe him. It is like Republicans set the house on fire and blame the Fire Department.

You are right they could even find own pettuti with both hands holding their pettuti.

It is scary that people will vote for these crazies.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on October 07, 2013:

What a great hub and I love the addition you've added to it! These Republicans must really hate themselves since they can't stop shooting themselves in both feet. Won't be long if they don't sober up and start acting like responsible adults before they'll have no feet and have to hop around on stumps. After this fiasco they're pulling now, is there any reason for them to even be on any ballot anywhere? Who will vote for them after this? Yes, I know, the idiots who put them in office in the first place who couldn't find their own pettuti with both hands if they tried! Sharing again.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 06, 2013:

Thank you Au fait for you continued comments and your loyalty, for the up vote and sharing. Yes it is a shame that the Tea Party came in and corrupted some of the Republicans who had a little bit of sense, but not after drinking tea at the tea party.

C E Clark from North Texas on October 06, 2013:

Noted that you have added another verse to this poem regarding the government shut-down and who is to blame. Once upon a time the Democrats and Republicans were able to work together for the good of the country -- but then somebody invented the Tea Party. Now it is a permanent stalemate while our country and many of the people languish in poverty.

Vote up, awesome, and will share again.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 05, 2013:

The GOP Tea Party

In their campaign, Tea Party people say; Oh! I want to work for you.

But when in office they say: I will tell YOU what to do.

The Tea Party people don't Care if Obamacare is LAW.

Poor people getting insurance is what the saw.

So...off to Washington the went

But they are not there to represent, they are there for their own intent

The Tea Party is there to cause dissent

And shutdown the government

If the ransom they demand is paid

Social Security is the next thing the Good Old Boys will take away

Then they will say: you don't need it, as long as we get our pay

And you can try to get it back some other day

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 02, 2013:

Thank you Aunt Jimi for you comments, up votes and sharing.

I know what you mean about them wanting to destroy our country. This, (writing about is the one thing I feel that I can do for my fellow Americans and my country) I just more people will learn about what is going on, before it is to late.

Thank you again and God Bless you Aunt Jimi.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on October 02, 2013:

What an amazing drawing you have done! I'm with Au fait, I love the photo of Karl.

You are right in that the Republicans are not doing the decent right thing for the people of this country. Every one of them should have their bare bottoms paddled publicly for putting this country in the mess it's in thanks to them. I don't know what it's going to take for people to realize that the Republicans, especially the Teabagger branch, only care about themselves. They are bent on destroying this country and if they default on our debt that will almost certainly finish things off.

I really love that you wrote this in poetry form. Going to share this article and voting it up and across the board -- even funny because of that picture of Karl!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on October 01, 2013:

Thank you DDE for your comment. Yes it is sad, when one tiny group of greedy people wants to decide what MOST of US have already decided what we want for our country. What they were voted into office to represent are the majority of the American people, but they were dishonest about what the were running for office to do.

Devika Primić from Dubrovnik, Croatia on October 01, 2013:

Government shut down second time round in two decades it is sad of what is going in America.