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Gwb's Library: Theme of the Magic Library

On George W. Bush's Watch


Library of Katrina, Iraq War and Florida's Vote Recount

The theme is the opening of the George Walker ("Dubya") Bush library: This Morning, I heard Laura Bush say of the George W. Bush Presidential Library, scheduled to open this morning, they just wanted people to see how difficult it is to make decisions, as President of the United States.

And in the same breath Mrs. Bush mentioned: Hurricane Katrina, the Iraq War, and the re-count of Florida's votes.

Q. Re-count? What re-count?

And now comes the 'Magic,' where truth is turned into lies and lies are turned into truth.

Q. Is the overthrown Statue/Bust of Saddam Hussein mounted in Bush's Library?

Iraq War History re-write

Nobody blames George W. Bush for the Afghanistan War! Other than the FACT that he striped Social Security of its surplus funding. But, Iraq?

Q. Does George W. Bush brag about setting the people free, from the terrible dictator, Saddam Hussein?

Q. Does he look in every corner of his library for the weapons of mass destruction?

Making a Case for War

    For years I was researching, how George W. Bush got away with the things he got away with, and why he was never questioned.

President and Mrs. Obama to Attend

President and Mrs. Obama and three other former Presidents and their wives Attended the 'Grand Opening' of GWB's Presidential Library.

The cost to visit the new Presidental Library is $16. I heard on the radio. Of course that could have changed by now, two days later.

$16. is not enough, they would need to pay ME $1,600 just to enter the Library of GWB's Lies.

$16.00 Is The Cost

Protesting the Library of Lies

Florida's vote re-count of 2000.

It surprised me that Laura Bush, mentioned the vote recount in Florida 2000.

Q. Does George W. Bush really believe that he would have legitimately won?

Florida 2000 Recount - The Real Truth

Why is GWB Opening a Library Here and Not In Iraq?

Yesterday, April 24th, 2013, an article by staff writer, David Flick, in The Dallas Morning News caught my attention. Normally I don’t pay much attention to protest/demonstrations, unless it is something that I believe in passionately, but this was different.

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The protesters seemed unlikely protesters. After all this was the protest against the honoring of a man who claimed to have liberated some of these same protesters.

In Mr. Flick’s article he quoted another Iraqi, Salam Talib, who represents the Dallas Peace Center, who said the war had made Bush unpopular with the people he claimed to have liberated.

“Why is he opening a library here and not in Iraq?” Talib said. “I guarantee if he tried to open one in Iraq, it would not last very long.

Protesting the GWB Library

Across North Central Expressway from a building that is set to have a grand opening tomorrow, April 25, 2013. Some Iraqis Citizens and United States Iraq war veterans, joined forces to protest the opening of the Presidential Library in honor of the legacy of George W. Bush. Farah Mushin, from Baghdad said in the article “We are here to remind the world that the Bush legacy has nothing honorable about it.”

How proud the man who was once our President must be, having a building dedicated in his honor, and having previous Presidents there to bring credibility to his legacy and, validate his lies. The man who stood on the deck of a ship and proudly proclaimed ‘mission accomplished.’ The man who bragged about how he would bring honor and dignity back to the White House, and then he brought shame and disgrace.

The Right to Heal!

All day the news was how tomorrow, Thursday, the President and Mrs. Obama would be attending the opening of Mr. Bush’s Presidential library, and they showed clips of items on display. One item was a wall map depicting Hurricane Katrina, as if it is a map of pride inside his library of lies.

I heard with my own ears, several Republicans, and two in particular, Dana Perino and Rudy Giuliani both saying that no acts of terrorism happened on George W. Bush’s watch.

Q. Where were these people on September 11th, 2001?

According to the Dallas Morning News article: Among the demonstrators was a veteran wounded in Afghanistan, who said the majority of soldiers he worked with have come to regard the American presence in Afghanistan as a mistake, and they were saying how we need accountability for what happened and the right to heal for the people there in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Veterans and their families of both wars.

According to the article by Mr. Flick, the protesters planted rows of crosses in memory of those who died in the Bush Administration wars.

© 2013 Shyron E Shenko


C E Clark from North Texas on October 17, 2020:

Here we are, 7 months since I last left a comment here, and Coronavirus has turned out to be not so much under control as Trump insisted it was. In fact, as of yesterday, October 16, 2020, the official death toll from Coronavirus, according to the Centers for Disease Control, was 216,917 with about a thousand people continuing to die daily. According to their records, the CDC says that is how many people who have died from the virus since Jan. 21, 2020.

There are other unfortunate things going on under this current president, too, but I won't mention them here and now. Former President George W. Bush messed up pretty good during his presidency, but even he looks successful compared to illegitimate President Trump. I say illegitimate because he received more than 3 million votes FEWER than his Democratic opponent. I say the leader of Russia, Vladimir Putin, installed Trump via hanky-panky and I fully expect Putin will do it again next month when Trump is up for re-installation to the presidency for 4 more years.

Compared to Trump, Bush Jr. will forever seem a hero and no magic tricks will be necessary. Not because Dubya was so great and didn't screw up, but because Trump has been criminal in many of his own deeds.

Posting this to AH & FB. Hope you are staying safe from the virus. Blessings, dear friend . . .

C E Clark from North Texas on March 01, 2020:

Funny how Trump's becoming president has bolstered the Shrub's self confidence and self respect. He practically walks with a bounce now that he has been replaced as the worst president in the history of this country. He even jokes about it.

The Bush's were very transparent in their dislike of Trump from the beginning. But I think Trump does make Little Bush and a lot of other people seem like geniuses.

Saw Trump lying as he always does, but this time about the coronavirus and how he has it under control and there's nothing to fear or worry about. His supporters no doubt swallowed his lies hook, line, and sinker. By doing that, if that virus does become an epidemic here, they will be sitting ducks and likely succumb because they took no precautions, believing Trump was telling them the truth. Terrible to lie and mislead his own supporters that way to where they may lose their lives for their adoring belief that Trump is the Second Coming.

C E Clark from North Texas on May 21, 2019:

Seems Little Bush is thrilled that he is no longer the worst president in the history of the U.S. and he said so. :) I don't think Trump will be so lucky when the dust settles. I don't' think there could be a worse president than himself so he'll just have to carry that mantle forever. God help us all if there is someone 'out there' who will eventually become a worse president than Trump.

I understand the suicide rate is up. I can see how that could happen given that we seem to be in a pretty much hopeless situation politically and Republican leadership are enabling Trump to do his worst.

Hope all is well with you. Blessings dear friend. Take care . . .

C E Clark from North Texas on December 28, 2018:

Funny how Trump's election has moved Dubya from the bottom of the president's list and off the top of the worst presidents we've ever had list. Trump seems to be out to make Dubya just look better and better.

Posting this to FB & AH again. Hope it will bring you lots of views. Blessings dear friend . . . and Happy New Year!

C E Clark from North Texas on August 05, 2018:

Can't wait to see what the Trump library will be like. Maybe the paranormal library? I don't think it will be even vaguely magical. Posting this to FB also as well as Awesome HubPages.

Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on January 02, 2018:

Au fait, thank you for the comments.

Do impeached presidents get to have a library magical or otherwise?

Also wishing you a joyful New Year

Blessings my dear friend.

C E Clark from North Texas on December 23, 2017:

Can you imagine how magical the Trump library will be when it comes into being? So far, the only things he has to put into it besides criminal activity and Russian collusion is successfully taking billions of $ from the middle and working classes and giving it to the obscenely wealthy.

Wishing you and John a peaceful and joyful Christmas.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on January 23, 2016:

Au fait, appreciate the comment and sharing.

Hope all is well with you.

Blessings and Hugs.

Take care

C E Clark from North Texas on January 22, 2016:

Another of my favorites. I love the title! Sharing of course.

Hope all's well with you. Take care . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on June 09, 2015:

Thank you Au fait for the comments. Maybe Jeb could build one next to his brother's and then one could visit both in one swoop.

Blessings and hugs to you also.

C E Clark from North Texas on June 08, 2015:

Just had to revisit this fine article. Love the title and that photo is priceless. Wonder if Jebbie wins where he'll plant his magical library? Sharing.

What awful heat today! 99 F. !! THI 104! Never cooled down much las' night either. Hope you're staying cool and that both of you are taking care of yourselves. Blessings and hugs, dear friend . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 12, 2015:

Au fait, thank you for the comments and sharing. I think they must have been talking about the Bush daughters, there are no other first daughter(s) who did thing that. I don't know why people talk like that, wonder if they have daughter(s) and how would they feel if they heard that statement about them?

I am glad we won the battle against the developer. Looks like the war is on for this next Monday night. The town council could overture our win and give the developer what he wants. politics is a dirty business. I hear our Mayor is running for Congress and campaigns cost a lot of money, especially now-days, You can vote in our state. I will campaign against if he rules in favor of the developer, that would mean he does not care about the people or our town.

I hope that is the end to the cold temp. I hate ice.

Blessings and Hugs dear friend! I hope you enjoy this day.

C E Clark from North Texas on March 10, 2015:

In answer to a question posed regarding what the most important characteristics a first lady should have, someone said the first daughters ought to know how to act in public and be patriotic, or something along those lines. I wonder if they were talking about how the Bush twins in their teen years were publicly drunk and partying? You have surly seen what asses people often make of themselves when they're drunk. I wonder if that person was referring to these all but adult Bush twins when they wrote that about the first daughters . . .

Sharing this again.

So glad your meeting went your way and well. Hope you win the next one too. More important than voting, is holding politicians to their promises and especially doing what's best and right for the people.

So glad the freezing temps are gone for a while and especially the ice is gone. Blessings and hugs for you and John too. Hope you are taking care of yourselves.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 20, 2014:

Au fait, thank you for pinning and sharing.

I hope you are also having a good Sunday. I slept to hard.

Blessings to you always


C E Clark from North Texas on July 20, 2014:

Thought I'd come visit this article again. Pinned it to AH and will share it again.

Hope you're having a good sleep. Still feels like Sunday and I guess now it is. Take care and have a good weekend what's left of it . . .

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 02, 2014:

Aunt Jimi, I am so glad you are still here! Cheney and Rumsfield wer not advisers they were bush's puppeteers. No we can't let them off the hook, and just imagine is a Republican is elected 2016 Cheney and his daughter Liz are there to aid and abet.

Thank you dear Aunt Jimi, for the up votes, and for sharing.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on July 01, 2014:

It's too bad that Dubya's advisors didn't serve him better. It was their job to make sure he understood all the options and which ones wouldn't work. I think Cheney and Rumsfield screwed up worse even than Dubya and he depended on them. He never should have, but that doesn't let them off the hook.

Sharing with my followers. Voting this up and useful/interesting/awesome.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 23, 2014:

Thank you Au fait, I really appreciate you my dear friend.

I think they would have to pay me to visit this library.

C E Clark from North Texas on March 21, 2014:

Thought people might want to read this so that when they start planning their summer vacations (summer will be here before you know it), they may want to include a trip to Houston and this interesting library in their trip.

Hope you are feeling much better now than when we last talked. My teeth continue to ache and sleep continues to evade me. Plan on crashing soon as I get some comments caught up.

Voted up, IA, and sharing.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on March 07, 2014:

Just a little tongue in cheek Lucy, thank you for your visit and comment.

lucy on March 05, 2014:

Holy smoke, you kidden me, that kissing video umm,

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 20, 2013:

Thank you Au fait, for your comments and for sharing this again, always appreciate you.

C E Clark from North Texas on September 18, 2013:

I've seen some headlines about this issue in the news recently, and though I only read a couple of lines, it would seem that other people are taking offense about the same things you write about here. Voting up and awesome and sharing again. Already pinned.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 15, 2013:

Thank you Aunt Jimi, for you comments. I am working on a hub about who is running and for what office. I hope to have it published soon.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on September 15, 2013:

I like this article and I know what a great job you always do researching and digging out the facts of an issue. With the mid term elections just around the corner, we need lots of your hubs shedding light on the things the Republicans are doing in the dark hoping no one will notice!

Going to share this again with my followers.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 05, 2013:

Thank you lyricwriter, for your comments, up-vote and sharing, glad you like my article. I believe as you that he wanted to finish his (Poppy) daddy's war. I believe I watch the same documentary. I have been following from the first bush (Iraq) war. I also went father back to Salem ben Laden, who was an investor in GWB's Arbusto Oil venture and was killed in a plane crash (Ironic?)

Richard Ricky Hale from West Virginia on September 05, 2013:

I would be telling a fib if I didn't say that I LOVE articles like this, they always have the best comments:) Well done Shyron. I watched a great documentary on GWB, but forget what it was called. I personally believe his decision was partially based on finishing his dad's war. GWB certainly knew that there was no WMD in Iraq. If there had been, the resistance would have been there. Instead, we walked through the entire country and found Saddam in a rat hole. I'm sure 9-11 would have been very hard to deal with, for any president. However, he made the wrong decisions. At the least, we get some funny YouTube videos and David Lettermen had a 8 year topic:) Powerful!! Voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, and shared on FB.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on September 02, 2013:

Thank you Jen, for reading and commenting on this hub. I sorry you could not sleep, but glad you were reading my hubs.

I know Mr. bush, jr. wants to rewrite history and say that he was justified in HIS attack on Iraq. That is having an impact on the U.S. decision and reaction to Syria.

When GWB wanted to attack Iraq, claiming they had WMDs, all the while knowing they had NONT. And then it was proven they had NONE. The GWB made light of the whole Iraq war. Looking behind the drapes in the White House, pretending to be looking for WMDs, and knowing they were not there.

Is that having an impact on the U.S. Congress's indecision in regards to the Syrian Assad's regime attack on its people?

Was this a PLAN to provoke the President to strike, so that Syria can say that America has declared war on them?

I just heard Rep. Janice Hahn (D) say that there are alternatives for the President to make, but could not think of one.

Jen on September 01, 2013:

How could anyone say no terrorist attacks happened under George W. Bush when 9/11 happened while he was president? Wasn't that a terrorist attack? I've heard it was an inside job. Maybe Mr. Giuliani had a slip of the tongue? The truth often comes out when people get relaxed and forget to pay attention to what they are saying.

I couldn't sleep again tonight so I am reading a couple of your articles. Very interesting how we used to accuse the Soviet Union of making up their own history and now it seems we are doing it here too!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on August 01, 2013:

Thank you Aunt Jimi, for your continued support I always appreciate your comments. You are such a dear friend.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on August 01, 2013:

Thank you Aunt Jimi, for your continued support I always appreciate your comments. You are such a dear friend.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on July 20, 2013:

Talk about socialism! Republicans scream about Socialism and Communism. Isn't that what they used to do in the old Soviet Union? Change history to suit themselves? Surprised this isn't more of an issue for Democrats.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 17, 2013:

Thank you Jen, I appreciate your visit.

You are right, at one time republicans were half way decent.

Jen on July 17, 2013:

I think that's just terrible that they're making things up. I guess he really did lie to the American people about that guy stockpiling bombs in Iraq and now he's lying about what happened. I remember when Republicans were honest. I guess nobody is anymore.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 14, 2013:

Dr. stiffy, President Obama has not failed. What you seem to forget is that when the tea party republicans had control they instituted the super majority so that any bill that came before congress had to pass 60 to 40 percent and you know that no matter what the bill was suppose to do, if it was any benefit to the American people or the democrats, the republicans voted against it.

I am sure you know that Mr. DR Stiffy.

Obama's Legacy? No matter what he does for now until the end of his term, he will leave office with the White House and the American people in better shape the when George Walker Bush was in office.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on July 14, 2013:

Aunt Jimi, thank you for your comments, always appreciate.

I just heard or read somewhere, or maybe I drempt it, that George W. Bush Library's Historical portion is closed while they do rewrites.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on July 09, 2013:

Really like the cover photo on this hub. GW always has that pained look for some reason. Wonder if he knows we're the ones feeling HIS pain instead of when Clinton said he was feeling ours.

This rewriting of history is what really needs to be discussed, but it seems to me Democrats don't have the backbone to stand up about it and Republicans think anything another Republican does is perfection unplugged. Going to share this hub again.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on June 25, 2013:

Thanks Aunt Jimi, if nobody reads the hub the don't know what to say, so they say some stupid. I am glad you know and understand what I am talking about. I really appreciate you.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on June 25, 2013:

Haven't heard from anybody on the issue of Dubya's library that rewrote history. Saw a lot of comments on here about other stuff, but nothing about the library and the fake history. Sharing.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on June 07, 2013:

Jen, thank you for your visit and thank your friend for recommending you read my hub(s).

Ref: George W. Bush, I too believe that Cheney had an abundance of influence on everything that went on in the Bush Administration White House.

Jen on June 07, 2013:

My dear friend who writes on here said I should take a look at your hubs. This one is interesting. I was never a Bush supporter, so I am probably not a good judge of his library. I feel sorry for him and did even when he was in office. Poor man could never seem to do anything right. I wonder if that is because Cheney really was in charge? That man always scared me.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 29, 2013:

yes, same name.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 28, 2013:

OK! Same name?

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 28, 2013:

You are welcome. Send me a friend request on fb, if you want.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 28, 2013:

Thanks! :)

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 28, 2013:

I posted this on fb also. I hope a lot of people read it.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 28, 2013:

My pleasure! I posted this yesterday on FaceBook:

"It is really time that We the People of the world see that we all must unite as one people. Corporate entities such as Monsanto, the Koch brothers, Big Oil, Big Pharma wage war on us all every day and steadily gain control of our air, water, food and fuel. They keep us pitted against each other to distract us from their predation. We have to drop our artificial differences, focus on our similarities and turn as one to face our corporate enemies or we will perish."

Along with this meme:

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 28, 2013:

You are right Suzanne, we are the target. The filthy rich want to do everything possible to eliminate anyone and everyone who isn't filthy rich. And some people are naive the believe the lying rich.

Thank you Suzanne for your continued comments.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 28, 2013:

And I did read the full article. Thank you for that also.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 27, 2013:

Of interest...

Corporations Are Stealing Billions in Tax Breaks, While the Confused, Screwed Citizenry Turn On Each Other

"...every ... major corporation, and every big Wall Street bank (is) sheltering as much of their U.S. profits abroad as they can, while telling Washington that lower corporate taxes are necessary in order to keep the U.S. 'competitive.'

"Baloney. The fact is, global corporations have no allegiance to any country; their only objective is to make as much money as possible — and play off one country against another to keep their taxes down and subsidies up, thereby shifting more of the tax burden to ordinary people whose wages are already shrinking because companies are playing workers off against each other....

"Right-wing nationalist parties are gaining ground elsewhere in Europe as well. In the U.S., not only are Republicans sounding more nationalistic of late (anti-immigrant, anti-trade), but they continue to push “states rights” — as states increasingly battle against one another to give global companies ever larger tax breaks and subsidies."

Full Article:

I have seen the enemy, and it ain't us!

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 26, 2013:

You are welcome Suzanne.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 26, 2013:

Shucks! Thanks for the many kind words! ;)

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 26, 2013:

Aunt Jimi, you are right as usual. I appreciate you input.


Suzanne, thank you for setting Carl straight on the difference between Rachel and rush.


Carl, thank you for your comments, sorry you don't want to post on here any more. If you want to read more of Suzanne's hubs, go to justmesuzanne.


Jen, thank you for reading and commenting on my article, I am so glad you enjoyed it.

I have not heard from anyone, saying the visited the 2nd Bush Library. I have a lot of information on the 1st Bush Library, when I have time to dig it out.

Please return, maybe you could become a hubber. I see lots of hubbers who just want to read and comment on other people's hubs.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 26, 2013:

Aunt Jimi, you are right as usual. I appreciate you input.


Suzanne, thank you for setting Carl straight on the difference between Rachel and rush.


Carl, thank you for your comments, sorry you don't want to post on here any more. If you want to read more of Suzanne's hubs, go to justmesuzanne.


Jen, thank you for reading and commenting on my article, I am so glad you enjoyed it.

I have not heard from anyone, saying the visited the 2nd Bush Library. I have a lot of information on the 1st Bush Library, when I have time to dig it out.

Please return, maybe you could become a hubber. I see lots of hubbers who just want to read and comment on other people's hubs.

Jen on May 26, 2013:

An interesting hub, but no one is talking about the library. I would really like to know more about that. What people think about it and if anyone has visited, what they thought.

I did think the comments were interesting too. Interesting to read the different opinions. That Aunt Jimi sure goes after the people who want to cut back on education and poor people's programs doesn't she? I don't blame her. They upset me too, but I don't think I would have the nerve to confront them like she does.

From what I can tell watching Republicans on TV they sure do go after people just like Aunt Jimi does, but it does not look like they appreciate being challenged does it?

Enjoyed your article and the comments were interesting as well.

Carl on May 26, 2013:

Also, don't worry about me posting here anymore. I think I'm done with this one. The only person I really like here is Suzanne, not because I agree with her, but because she is respectful to people and backs up her points.

Carl on May 26, 2013:


"How do I know that? Because Obama won. The majority of voters elected a Democrat who is black -- get used to it. You are in the minority. Your excuses don't hold water. They're old hat."

You just proved all of my points. What happens when a Republican wins the White House next election? Am I supposed to ignore the feelings of all Democrats or do you somehow think that it's impossible for a Republican to win again? And then you brought in race, why is it that no one who argued with you ever brought up the color of the President's skin? There are plenty of black folks that I would vote for. Barack Obama just isn't one of them.

Also, Barack Obama's election showed much about race relations in this country. 95% of black people voted for Obama while roughly 50% of white people did. If Barack Obama had been white or if white people voted based on the color of his skin he would have lost. I am happy to see that white voters basically ignored the color of his skin and disgusted that many blacks casted their vote almost completely based on it.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 25, 2013:

Why is Rachel Maddow a better source of information than Rush Limbaugh?


Rachel Maddow ~ Education and background...

Rachel Anne Maddow is an American television host, political commentator, and author. She hosts a nightly television show, The Rachel Maddow Show, on MSNBC. Her syndicated talk radio program of the same name aired on Air America Radio.

Born: April 1, 1973 (age 40), Castro Valley, CA

Life Partner: Susan Mikula (1999–)


University of Oxford (2001)

Lincoln College, Oxford (postgraduate study 1995)

Stanford University (1994)

Castro Valley High School (1990)

Here is her High School graduation speech:


Maddow's is a scholarly and serious historical political piece (a #1 NYT best seller) reviewed seriously by the US "newspaper of record".

Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power (NYT Review)

The #1 New York Times bestseller that charts America’s dangerous drift into a state of perpetual war.

"One of my favorite ideas is, never to keep an unnecessary soldier," Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1792. Neither Jefferson nor the other Found­ers could ever have envisioned the modern national security state, with its tens of thousands of "privateers"; its bloated Department of Homeland Security; its rust­ing nuclear weapons, ill-maintained and difficult to dismantle; and its strange fascination with an unproven counterinsurgency doctrine.

Written with bracing wit and intelligence, Rachel Maddow's Drift argues that we've drifted away from America's original ideals and become a nation weirdly at peace with perpetual war, with all the financial and human costs that entails. To understand how we've arrived at such a dangerous place, Maddow takes us from the Vietnam War to today's war in Afghanistan, along the way exploring the disturbing rise of executive authority, the gradual outsourcing of our war-making capabilities to private companies, the plummeting percentage of American families whose children fight our constant wars for us, and even the changing fortunes of G.I. Joe. She offers up a fresh, unsparing appraisal of Reagan's radical presidency. Ultimately, she shows us just how much we stand to lose by allowing the priorities of the national security state to overpower our political discourse.

Sensible yet provocative, dead serious yet seri­ously funny, Drift will reinvigorate a "loud and jangly" political debate about how, when, and where to apply America's strength and power--and who gets to make those decisions.


Rush Limbaugh ~ Education and background...

Rush Limbaugh

Talk show host

Rush Hudson Limbaugh III is a conservative American radio talk show host and political commentator. Since he was 16, Limbaugh has worked a series of disc jockey jobs.

Born: January 12, 1951 (age 62), Cape Girardeau, MO

Spouses: Marta Fitzgerald (m. 1994–2004), Michelle Sixta (m. 1982–1990), Roxy Maxine McNeely (m. 1977–1980)


Missouri Central High School (1969)

Southeast Missouri State University (did not graduate)

TV shows: The Rush Limbaugh Show, Sunday NFL Countdown, The Pat Sajak Show, The 1/2 Hour News Hour, EIB Cure -a-thon


Limbaugh's books are efforts at humorous "send-ups" filled with personal anecdotes from this "feisty flouter" who "provokes friend sand (sic) enemies" with his "ascerbic wit and huggable charm". The first is reviewed by Publisher's Weekly and Booklist. The second it simply self-reviewed by the publisher!

See, I Told You So

From Publishers Weekly

Limbaugh's send-up of American liberalism was a 13-week PW bestseller.

Copyright 1994 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

From Booklist

By its second day in the stores, Limbaugh's second book had the biggest early sales of a hardcover book in publishing history. That's what the man himself let slip on his radio show, and as he says, he purveys only the truth--a statement that is itself true in terms of both factual accuracy and ideological sincerity. But the truth has little to do with Limbaugh's appeal and success. Those come to him because he is relentlessly upbeat, an indomitable patriot, a booster for capitalism, and a feisty flouter of sanctimonious special pleaders and those most despised of nay-sayers, establishment (the Times, the Post, Time, Newsweek, the networks, etc.) journalists, who'd be much (well. . . a teensy bit, maybe) more acceptable to Limbaugh if they'd only 'fess up to their liberal bias. All of those qualities are here in spades, just as they were in last year's phenomenal best-seller, The Way Things Ought to Be. What's missing is Limbaugh's hilarious, irreverent, and canny use of pop culture--for instance, the New Orleans novelty song, "Ain't Got No Home," introducing updates on homelessness, and a 1960s surfer-rock parody called "The Little First Lady with Meg'lomania," twitting Hillary Clinton--which highlights his radio program and makes it magnetically listenable. To make up for this loss, there's at least chapter 25, "The Politically Correct Liberal Lexicon," but, really, there's no loss to make up, for Limbaugh in his more somber print manifestation is still political and social commentary so lively it cries out to be read and agreed or disagreed with, but always enjoyed. Ray Olson

The Way Things Ought to Be

From the Publisher

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One note on the rest of your collection:

Poor Hank Johnson (D Georgia) was trying for comedic effect about the Federal Helium Reserve, but he just doesn't have the chops for it! That was surely an error in judgment! LOL! :D

Here's what he was talking about:

"The bill, which now goes to the Senate, is intended to protect the country — if not the world — from a damaging dearth of helium that would limit its use in MRI machines, fiber optic cables, computer chips and more, according to lawmakers."

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Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on May 25, 2013:

Yup, Carl, you are correct in that I do not like people who try to make life even more difficult for poor people than it already is. I do not like people who want to deny poor people, including babies, healthcare.

I have a dear friend who is writing about infant morality in this country and do you know even Malaysia and Cuba have a better mortality rate than the U.S. in that regard? Thanks to Republicans 40 other countries take better care of their newborns than the U.S. does.

Yes, 10,000 babies and children die every year in the U.S., the richest nation on the planet, because they can't get healthcare. That's shocking and egregious and how anyone who agrees with it expects to get respect I do not know!!!

Did it ever occur to you Carl, that we have heard your half-assed excuses for being stingy and heartless many times before from other people just like you? While it's true that repeating a lie enough times will eventually convince most gullible people that it's the truth, you have to consider that we aren't all gullible and ignorant.

So you and your ilk can repeat your lies ad nauseum as much as you like, but forgive us if some of us tune you out, because we've heard it all before. If we cared to do it, we could sing your songs along with you and never miss a word.

Your excuses are trite and redundant Carl. Learn some new ones. Pull your head out of the sand -- your same old same old isn't working, and we aren't listening to it. We've heard it all before. They're so last decade and they're WRONG. We know they're wrong and if you'd stop flapping your jaws long enough to listen yourself, you'd know most people already realize your excuses are WRONG.

How do I know that? Because Obama won. The majority of voters elected a Democrat who is black -- get used to it. You are in the minority. Your excuses don't hold water. They're old hat.

You're a fine one to call anyone biased and intolerant. YOU are everything you accuse liberals of being and worse!

You insult yourself Carl, worse than anyone else ever could by being obtuse and most of all by admitting you vote Republican and support Republicans. To associate and identify and support people who laugh, jeer at, and spit on people who need but cannot get healthcare is so repugnant you just do not know!

People who favor the kind of behavior and words I see from Republicans every day of my life because I live in a sea of them get no respect from me. There is no one in the world who can top a Republican when it comes to hating. Maybe you think denying people necessary healthcare and food is love? You really are screwed up.

I'm sick of Republican's obtuse mean spirited heartless ideas and attitudes no matter how politely they state them. Letting people die is unconscionable no matter how sweetly and courteously you place your vote for that to happen.

Can you believe someone said to me just last Thursday that people should be denied Food Stamps if they fail the drug test and even their children should be denied? This person actually said that children fair according to what their parents can provide and if they fail the drug test, that's life. Can you believe an adult with a responsible job and children is basically saying if children choose the wrong parents too bad so sad? They'll just have to go hungry. You think I should respect a person like that? You think I should respect people who agree with people like that? You think I should respect people who vote for politicians who think like that? Who ties your shoes Carl?

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 25, 2013:

@ Carl,

I agree with Aunt Jimi, because she is right.

I am against cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. If that makes me biased. Then you are right!

I am against people who blame something they caused (Benghazi) on someone else (Hillary.) If that makes me biased. Then you are right!

Are you for cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and ending Food Stamps for people who would otherwise starve to death. If so, that makes you biased? That also makes you a republican!

Carl on May 25, 2013:

@ Shyron

You are intolerant and completely biased. You are everything you claim to be against. You refuse to listen to anything from the other side and resort to insults when all else fails. You praise Aunt Jimi's rants even though they are hateful because she is on your side. At the same time, you bash those who disagree with you when they attempt to voice their opinions to you politely. Please think about it for a few minutes before you respond.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 25, 2013:

@ Carl,

I think Suzanne is a good person also. Glad we can agree on something. Thank you for the comment.

Carl on May 25, 2013:

@ Shyron

I like Suzanne, I think she's a good egg. I just don't agree with her politics.

I actually watched the complete Maddow presentation at the link Suzanne provided. My point is that Maddow is to me what Limbaugh is to you. They are both at the ends of the spectrum and they both like chicks.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 25, 2013:

Suzanne, thank you for the link, I will add that info to my collection! ;o)

@ Carl

You did not go to the link from Suzanne, Rachel Maddow is one of the few people who has the courage to speak the truth to people like you.

Susanne's 2nd link is about the republicans dishonoring the memory of the people who died in Benghazi., by Trudy Rubin.

I can understand though your gagging on the truth, or did you stick you, finger down your throat?

Carl on May 25, 2013:

@ Suzanne

Thanks again, your last post made me throw up in my mouth a little. You have left me no choice, but to post these.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 25, 2013:

The real Benghazi scandal is that Issa chooses circus over substance.

Carl on May 25, 2013:


How dare you send me to a Rachel Maddow site without warning me first? I have no choice, but to retaliate. These links should provide you and your liberal friends with the same shock and horror I felt when I clicked on your link.

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 25, 2013:

In response to the comment some long while ago that none of the problems predicted to happen because of the sequester have actually happened:

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 24, 2013:

@ Carl, President Obama has done more than any President in spite of the road blocks the right keeps putting up.


Aunt Jimi, you are right on as usual, and I appreciate you more than you know.


Liberty Cell, did you find out that the link you sent me to, was phony?

I have you matched, my grandparents, had a well where we drew water, an outhouse, it was a log house and we bathed in the Zinc tub.

You said that Aunt Jimi's comments did not relate to the content of yours and Carl's entry. But, it does relate to your comments. It is you comments/posts that is not relevant to my hub.


Aunt Jimi, thank you again you are so right as usuall.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on May 24, 2013:

Gentlemen: You say I didn't stick to the subject of what y'all were writing about.

Mr. Cell:

1. You said you didn't believe Republicans were interested in slashing eduction funding.

2. You stated the conditions of your childhood.

3. You said basically that if one continues to do the same thing and expect a different result they are fooling themselves.

4. You said Republicans don't want to end Food Stamps and other social programs.


1. You said my description of Republicans offended Republicans.

2. You asked if I really believe Republicans are means spirited/heartless, etc.

My entire 'rant' as y'all are so fond of calling things you dislike, was about the subjects specified in the lists above. I addressed each and every one, and then some. I think the real problem is that you didn't actually read it.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 24, 2013:

AJ, please read Carl's and my comments again. The "evil" generalities you spewed forth did not even relate to the content of our entries.

Carl on May 24, 2013:


I started to write a response, but the more I read into your rant, I just figured screw it. What's the point?

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on May 24, 2013:

Mr. Cell and Carl, you need to dig out your ears because that's all Republicans talk about is how lazy good for nothings are getting a free ride with Food stamps and other social programs. They never say a word about the subsidies that go to corporations or the bankers who stole 7 Trillion $s from the American people.

Republicans have already cut education funding, pull your head out. They want to cut it even more! Every school is feeling the pain of having to cut programs and teachers, and most have already done so. All the way from Head Start to financial aid for university students, funding has been sharply cut.

All I hear are Republicans whining because they object to social programs that help people. Wars? Wars are beloved of Republicans and you never hear them complain about paying taxes for wars. Wars don't help anybody, they just kill and destroy. That tells me that Republicans love to kill and destroy and they hate to help anyone in even the smallest way.

Republicans complain about Medicaid, MediCare, Aid for Dependent Children, Food Stamps, Financial Aid for universities and colleges and more. Yes, they even gripe when a woman gets an abortion and then they gripe if she doesn't and they have to help support her baby! The very same guy who got her pregnant will often be the loudest complainer of all!! Republicans have no logic.

Republicans never complain about war. They never complain about subsidizing big business/corporations.

Just so you know, I was born at home as were my siblings. We had gas lights, no electricity, and no running water in our house. We had a 2-holer outhouse (prestige), and no telephone. Catalogs, no toilet tissue. One car that my father used to get to work and back, 60 miles round trip. Food came from our garden. Even so, we weren't poor compared to people in general.

Poor is when you have needs that you can't obtain because you can't get a job. Most employers STILL will not even consider hiring someone who is unemployed. That's mean spirited.

Most employers, like my dear friend's employer cut her hours as punishment even though they know she may have to live in her car as a result. They don't care. That's mean spirited. Murderers, rapists, and thieves are treated better in our society than somebody who doesn't kiss the boss's ass.

Many wages have been driven down as a result of the Market Crash of 2008 thanks to Bush Administration policies. Prices have in fact gone up and sharply.

Nowadays most people can't just go out and cut down a tree for firewood the way we could when I was growing up in the country. Most people have no place for a garden. Today's poor are homeless, thanks to the banking industry and politicians who enabled them.

With businesses refusing to hire people when they can, and often unable to hire people because there is no demand for what they offer, many more people than what is reported have no work, or not enough work to make ends meet. Yet our Republican House wants to cut social programs at a time when they are needed most. That's mean spirited and heartless.

Yes, votes matter. They have consequences. If you vote against universal healthcare and Medicaid, you are voting for the status quo -- more than 50,000 people die every year because they have no access to healthcare -- that's the status quo. If you vote to continue that system instead of improving on it, you're mean spirited, heartless, and yes, evil. So yes, mean spirited, heartless, ignorant, and more also applies to supporters of Republican politicians. Why would anyone support a politician they mostly disagree with?

If you are among the many Republicans who whine about someone getting a couple hundred dollars in Food Stamps which they have to qualify for over and over again to continue getting, then you are mean spirited, heartless, and down right evil. What kind of person denies people food and needed healthcare? I've already answered that.

There is no such thing as a half evil person. It's all or none. If a person is so heartless they would deny people healthcare and food, then they have nothing of value to offer. They are pure evil.

I live in a sea of Republicans and I work in the midst of Republicans. My whole family is Republican and has been my whole life. I know Republicans, and I hear what they have to say about these things many times a day. Don't try to tell me what Republicans say or don't say. I hear what they have to say daily. Pull your heads out guys.

Or maybe it's just the natural instinct of Republicans to deny what they know is true rather than taking 'personal responsibility?' Maybe that is what causes y'all to say Republicans are not against social programs? You may think your lies impress people, but only the cognitively challenged are impressed, and even they are mainly concerned with fitting in. They aren't capable of thinking it through, they just know they want to get along with the loudest mouths in the neighborhood or workplace.

Like it or not, 'Republican' is a nasty word in many circles because of what it stands for. No one likes to see wastefulness, but even the most efficient mega company has wastefulness no matter how they try to get rid of it. That's because humans are fallible. The U.S. government is many times bigger than the biggest international company, so it shouldn't surprise you that there will be some waste, and of course Republicans will focus on it to the exclusion of all else.

Yes, if one person gets Food Stamps whom a Republican deems undeserving, they then demand that the program be scrapped entirely. Personally, I think if one person driving a red vehicle gets a speeding ticket that speeding tickets should be delivered to all red vehicle drivers -- they're all the same aren't they? Makes as much sense as Republican logic about waste.

Food Stamps need to be usable at fast food restaurants because homeless people have no place to cook. I've heard that homeless people can now get food stamps; they didn't used to be able to. No address? No food. That's certainly kind and considerate don't you think? Of course you do because you're Republicans. Anyone deserving of Food Stamps would have a place to cook wouldn't they? Republicans have no logic.

Tea Baggers are even worse. Yup, just when you thought no one could be more mean spirited and heartless, along come the Tea Baggers.

I agree that if we want some positive changes in our government and in our lives people are going to have to stop voting Republican. Stop voting for obstuctionism. Continuing to vote the same way all the time and expecting a different result is illogical.

I don't concern myself with people on the other side of my argument. They're beyond reasoning -- remember my example about the dog? I don't waste time on people who will never get it. You'd probably have more success at trying to teach the mentally challenged bag person at the grocery store how to fly a 747.

When people are so thoroughly evil, nothing is going to change their minds -- or their hearts if they had one.

Do you know it was Reagan who first wanted to pass universal healthcare? Yup, and guess who blocked it because he didn't want Reagan to get that feather in his cap? Ted Kennedy. Yup, just goes to show that Republicans only do what their leaders tell them to, think what their leaders tell them to think. In fact universal healthcare was initially a Republican idea -- back before evil infiltrated the Party and it's supporters. Most Republicans would never imagine universal healthcare nowadays -- true it costs less overall, but the kicker is that fewer people die, and that's unacceptable to Republicans who love war, and anything really that brings about death (other than their own).

Also shows that politicians, regardless of Party, are only out for themselves. The don't give a damn about the people.

Carl on May 24, 2013:


"I choose Democrats because they have compassion and look out more for the less fortunate in this world. The Republicans are the selfish, greedy, mean spirited Party that are slashing education funding and ending Food Stamps and even wanting to do away with MediCare and Social Security."

Your paragraph started out well. I can respect that you vote Democrat because you agree more with their social policies. I don't feel the same way, but that's okay. It's the last part of your paragraph that makes people on the other side essentially disregard your whole argument. Do you honestly believe that every Republican is "selfish, greedy, mean spirited?" Does that characterization apply to all those who vote for them too?

I agree with you about choosing the lesser of two evils. For me, that choice is to vote for a Republican. I lean more Libertarian, but they have not had a candidate with enough support to win an election yet.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 24, 2013:

Aunt Jimi, when I was a small child my family lived in a home without bathrooms. We bathed in a metal tub, used an outhouse and had no air conditioning. I am qualified to speak about being poor.

I am not so sure that Republicans are interested in slashing education funding; rather Republicans believe that education is better administered locally. The federal government, through the power of appropriation, has steadily increased its influence in this area and look what has happened: Our students once led the world; now we are not even in the top 10 in any subject. In other words, Aunt Jimi, "if you keep on doing what you've already done, you keep on getting what you've already got."

(Kirbyjohn Caldwell, a Methodist minister in Houston) Star Parker has written that black citizens are increasingly aware that the education system is not providing proper education.

It could be, I suppose, that there is a Republican somewhere who wants to end the Food Stamp program, I certainly have never heard a Republican say he wants to get rid of Medicare or Social Security. However it is beyond debate that such programs are corrupt, both from the administration and the recipients. Also, these programs have another feature: they are psychological traps. Very few who receive such "entitlements" improve their financial situation so that they no longer need the benefits. How is that good for the country? We will not come up with a solution to this situation unless we first acknowledge the problem.

We have established our common ground, Aunt Jimi. In addition to my concern with the march toward a welfare state, we both realize that the corporate world, including banks and big businesses, are strangling the people and that both parties are culpable. There are remedies for this situation, and if we stopped attacking each other, I would wager we could figure something out.

Aunt Jimi from The reddest of the Red states! on May 24, 2013:

The truth is usually somewhere in the middle is correct, however we are forced to choose between 2 evils and so we choose the lesser of them.

I choose Democrats because they have compassion and look out more for the less fortunate in this world. The Republicans are the selfish, greedy, mean spirited Party that are slashing education funding and ending Food Stamps and even wanting to do away with MediCare and Social Security.

Not a lot of difference between the Parties in many ways, but when you're down and out that teeny hairs breath difference can mean everything.

No matter if you get to the truth or not, you will have to choose between the 2 evils. So the important thing is to choose the less evil regardless of where the truth is. Republicans have no compassion and think it's a foreign word, Democrats offer the occasional crumb.

If one is super fast and collects one's crumb before the Republicans swoop in and grab it quicker than the grinch can steal Christmas, one may manage to live another day to struggle out of the poverty the wealthy have dug them into. If you've never been poor, you have no idea what it's like and no authority to speak about it.

Carl on May 23, 2013:

Also Shyron,

I am trying to discuss things with you. That dialogue isn't possible when Libery Cell is always claiming the right is just and when you are always backing the left. The truth is somewhere in the middle, but there really are bad people wanting to do us harm and it isn't always based on us acting first. Unfortunately, I think we are going to see a new war soon. Whether you like Barack Obama or not, he has not done enough to contain it.

Carl on May 23, 2013:

Also, I dont know if you guys have seen this documentary on the war in Afghanistan. It's from Vice (which is liberal), but it is probably the best I have seen so far.

Carl on May 23, 2013:


"I don't see Afghanistan as a mistake until Tora Bora, when GWB turned his back on that war to start one with Iraq. That war was not only a mistake, it was an evil mistake that cost a lot of lives."

I agree with you. The U.S. military and government allowed the Afghans to take part in the operation. That was a huge mistake and Al Qaeda bribed their way out.

The problem bringing Iraq into your argument on Tora Bora is that Tora Bora happened on 2001. If you want to argue that Afghanistan was neglected in 2003-2005, that's another issue. Again though, I think we should have been out by early 2002 at the latest.

If you're wondering about my background during those years, I was active duty military and I was young. Hindsight is 20/20. I definitely supported the invasion of Afghanistan. I and everyone else I knew wanted blood following 9/11. I also felt good about Iraq early on. Based on intel, almost everyone felt that Hussein was continuing his WMD program and was a threat. That includes Democrats and foreign governments prior to Bush being elected.

You are forgetting many things about Iraq. Everyone thought Hussein was a danger and was rebuilding his WMD program. He was also misleading our intelligence agencies into believing he had WMDs and I'm still not convinced he didn't.

Our biggest mistake is believing we can help people and that we are responsible for rebuilding their nations. I can not believe that the Iraqis allowed their country to be occupied by foreign terrorists following the U.S. invasion. I guess there are two ways of looking at it, were we better off allowing Hussein to throw Iraqis into plastic shredders to prevent terrorism or hoping for a better society?

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 23, 2013:

LibertyCell, you are ass-uming this is the absolute truth. and you call me amazing.

This IRS fiasco it an attempt to link it to Obama Care with the hope that it will repeal it.

I do not worship President Obama. But, you are free to worship, Cruz, Rand Paul and any Tea Party rep. you so choose.

I did watch the video and do not believe any of it.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 23, 2013:

Here's a link for liberals who worship at the throne of Obama. This video is very illustrative of the current atmosphere the "wannabe dictator" has created. He is much closer to his objective than we realize. Please give it a look.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 23, 2013:

Shyron you are amazing! Obama is currently stonewalling the American people regarding a number of issues and situations. When you hide behind, "national security," "executive privilege," and when your administration has people who are currently testifying, "I don't know, I can't remember, "I have recused myself" and "I plead the fifth," and when you hide people who were at Benghazi, illegally examine the phone records of the Associated Press, and even invade the privacy of a reporter and his family, Shyron, all that is indicative, to people who have eyes to see, of a president who has trouble disclosing information and who presumes to punish anyone else who tries to find it.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 22, 2013:

@LibertyCell, thank you for your continued comments.

I don't see Afghanistan as a mistake until Tora Bora, when GWB turned his back on that war to start one with Iraq. That war was not only a mistake, it was an evil mistake that cost a lot of lives.

I don't see how you think that President Obama would have a hard time disclosing the information at that time. I think you will have a few surprises in the next year.

@ Carl, thank you for your continued comments, some of which I agree with.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 22, 2013:

I agree. I was not clear. We should have done as you suggest, then get out. I was thinking of how tired I am of "playing to tie." With the exception of Desert Storm, it seems we have conducted wars to benefit certain defense corporations at the expense of our people and we have either lost (Vietnam) or tied (Korea). My motto regarding the use of military personnel has always been "get in it to win, or don't get in it.

Carl on May 22, 2013:

@ LibertyCell

I'm curious to see why you thought the invasion of Afghanistan was a mistake. We were attacked by terrorists being harbored in their country and gave the Afghans a way out. I think our only mistake was thinking we could help the people rebuild themselves into what we think of as a civilized society. They simply don't want it and we have waisted our time. We should have destoyed Al Qaeda quickly with unimaginable force and left. The only reason why I think the U.S. is there now is because we have almost nothing to show for our last 11 years of involvement and don't want to admit it was a waste of money and lives.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 22, 2013:

Shyron, that was a surprisingly objective report, especially coming from Rachel Madden. I don't necessarily disagree with any of it. However, whatever Bush's motive was to invade Iraq, the fact remains that virtually all the leaders, regardless of party - you have seen quotes from Clinton and Kerry in the comments to his hub - thought Saddam had WMD's. So did the rest of the world. It is inconceivable that Democrats would be persuaded to that belief just because Bush said so. I remind you again that Congress approved the Iraqi invasion.

The "Desert Storm" invasion under Bush the Elder, in my view, was handled effectively and correctly. The Iraq invasion under GWB, in my view was a mistake. Afghanistan, in my view, was a mistake.

My own foreign policy regarding the Middle East (sans Israel) is as follows:

1. Radical Muslims say that want us out - let's get out! No more grants, aid or financial aid of any kind.

2. Develop our own energy sources, which are considerably more than is in the Middle East anyway, and tell them to "eat their oil." Meanwhile encourage, even enforce if necessary real research and development of alternative energy sources.

3. Force an agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, then announce we will wait for the barbaric Muslims to evolve into the 21st century and otherwise ignore them, unless they harm Israel, when all hell will break loose.

While watching the report, I could not help but notice that documents were referenced that would not have been forthcoming if Obama were the president at the time. Things are getting very hot for Obama right now. I hope you and your buddies will objectively view the events to come as the truth is slowly revealed.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

LibertyCell, you did not read Making the Case for War

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

Suzanne, I did not know that donkeys could fight off coyotes. My friend Maurine never said anything about it, only that her dogs guarded the other animals from the coyotes.

That is a good thing to know.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

@ Carl,

I do not intend to argue with you, and you have a right to like whom ever you choose. But what I learned about Bush in the mid 1970s. I have hundreds of articles about the Bush family.

Carl on May 21, 2013:


I'm just not in the mood to argue. I like Bush better than Obama, and unless some new info comes out, I probably always will. Did you see this one by Jon Stewart? He's a liberal and a comedian, but he has some good points on this one.


I'll have to look into having a donkey. I had no idea that they could take care of coyotes. I don't go after them, but it's nice to know a donkey can defend itself if they come around. I've had my dog get into with coyotes on the other side of my fence, but I was able to grab him and get him inside before any physical contact occurred. The only animal I'll shoot on sight out here are rattlesnakes. Western diamondbacks are just too dangerous to have around.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

Suzanne, you are so right.

but some people will forever believe W's lies

justmesuzanne from Texas on May 21, 2013:

@ Shyron: Actually, donkeys fight off coyotes! That's what people get them for. They guard herds of cattle, sheep and so on and stomp the coyotes into the ground! :) I plan to get a nanny goat or cow to keep Ray company and give him a job protecting it. It will make him happy! :)

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

George was like the previous post he wore the uniform but did not do the training or serving in any capacity.

Jim Lyde from Austin, Texas on May 21, 2013:

Shyron, nobody I know claims WMD's were there, the intelligence community worldwide had thought so, though. Here is a fact that came from the LINK YOU POSTED:

"He [Kerry] is claiming I misled America about weapons when HE, HIMSELF, CITED THE VERY SAME INTELLIGENCE ABOUT SADDAM'S WEAPONS PROGRAMS AS THE REASON HE VOTED TO GO TO WAR" Bush said. Citing a lengthy Kerry quote from two years ago on the threat Hussein could pose, Bush said, "Just who's the one trying to mislead the American people?"

That Shyron, is the truth. It can be documented because Bush received Congressional approval before invading Iraq, while your hero Obama did not prior to invading Libya.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

??? Responding/Preventing, what?

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

@Carl, I never thought I would hear a rep. who is suppose to be working for FEMA admit that he would sit on the sidelines and watch others do the work that he/you were getting paid to do.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

@LibertyCell, you presume to have facts. Here are some facts for you: October 8th, 2004 The San Diego Union-Tribune:

WASHINGTON – President Bush and his vice president conceded yesterday in the clearest terms yet that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, trying to shift the Iraq war debate to a new issue – whether the invasion was justified because Hussein was abusing a U.N. oil-for-food program.

Bush's response was his first reaction to a report released Wednesday by Charles Duelfer, the CIA's top weapons inspector, that contradicted the White House's main argument for invading Iraq.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:


see answer to PQ or is that you?

Still not good enough for you??? President Bush Admits Iraq Had No WMDs and 'Nothing' to Do With 9/11

by Democracy Now (reposted)

Tuesday Aug 22nd, 2006 9:54 AM

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

@ Patriot Quest‎‎

Iraq nothing to do with 9/11

Former US President George W Bush still has "a sickening feeling" about the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, US media report.‎

October 8th, 2004 The San Diego Union-Tribune:

WASHINGTON – President Bush and his vice president conceded yesterday in the clearest terms yet that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, trying to shift the Iraq war debate to a new issue – whether the invasion was justified because Hussein was abusing a U.N. oil-for-food program.

Bush's response was his first reaction to a report released Wednesday by Charles Duelfer, the CIA's top weapons inspector, that contradicted the White House's main argument for invading Iraq.

Shyron E Shenko (author) from Texas on May 21, 2013:

Suzanne, thank you. I agree with you!

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