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David Icke's Biggest Secret: the conspiracy theory the Queen is a reptilian

John Lydon said "she ain't no human being."

David Icke is famous for being a very controversial conspiracy theorist and he shocked a lot of people including many of his fans when he announced in his book The Biggest Secret that The Queen and the British Royal Family are shape-shifting reptilians.

The theory is that a reptilian or alien race from another star system and from another dimension interbred with the human race many thousands of years ago and that the descendants of this reptilian and human hybrid bloodline are the rulers of the world today. These reptilians are also known as the Draco and it is believed that they can change from human to their true reptilian form.

David Icke says that some of these reptilians are in another dimension and can possess and control people from there and that others are in this physical world but hidden by a human appearance. Yet more are in physical bodies but live deep underground.

Bizarre as this information is, Icke says that he met people all around the world who told him stories about how they had witnessed humans changing into reptiles and that the idea is supported by all the legends and references in myths and religions about reptilian beings.

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God Save The Queen - The Sex Pistols

Fortean Times

Fortean Times magazine featured an illustration of The Queen with some of her skin peeled back to show her reptilian nature. You can view this cover artwork here: Fortean Times and cover with The Queen as a reptilian.

Back at the start of the punk rock era in the late '70s the Sex Pistols had a number one that was banned from broadcast entitled God Save the Queen and in the lyrics John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten sings: "she ain't no human being."

Inspired by all this back in 2002 the year of the Queen's Jubillee, I wrote a song entitled Johnny Rotten's still my Hero, which mentions David Icke and Johnny Rotten in the lyrics and also the fact that "Diana called the family "lizards."

This information was taken from David Icke's book in which he says that Christine Fitzgerald who knew Princess Diana told him that this was how she actually often referred to the Windsor family. There is an online interview with David in which he explains this.

Back in 2001, I had met a group of girls in their late teens at a gig I played at the West End Centre in Aldershot and they became instant fans of mine. We were talking in the bar and exchanged contact details and kept in touch by e-mail. Several months after my gig one of them called Ellie got in touch to say they were feeling inspired by me to get their own band together and they wanted to ask me a question.

They wanted to know if I would have them as my support act if I played in the Aldershot area again. Ellie said they were going to call their group The Somethings.

I replied saying we could do something even better than that - they could back me on a new song I had written. The girls agreed and I went down to Aldershot for a rehearsal at Ellie's house.

After that I had to leave it with them to sort out a date for recording and a studio in their area. I had to do this because the girls were in their last year at college and had exams and a couple of them had part-time jobs and it had to be a date everyone could be free on.

So we only had that one rehearsal to go by when the big day came and that left the recording a bit rough at the edges but I thought it fitted the spirit of D-I-Y music that punk rock was about. I added an ending line to the song: "We're the Somethings and we've got it all planned, and we don't care if we get banned."

I don't know what happened to The Somethings because they all went separate ways by going on to university and we lost touch.

I wrote to David Icke to tell him about my song and it got a plug in his headlines on his website at the time.

Whether the Queen is a reptilian or not is perhaps debateable but that her family are Germans is not. Also, her husband Prince Philip is Greek.

Wikipedia tells us: "The House of Windsor is the current Royal House of the United Kingdom and each of the other Commonwealth realms. It is a branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (German: Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha ), which adopted the name Windsor by a royal proclamation of George V in 1917."

People in the UK are brought up to think that the royal family are British but they are not. And if the Sex Pistols song and David Icke are right they are also not humans. Conspiracy theorists and followers of Icke's actually believe this stuff about alien shapeshifting reptilians disguised as human beings! What a crazy world this is!

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BobInBridgeport on August 31, 2018:

Even if it were possible that ancient "reptilian" aliens somehow managed to breed with homosapiens, that would have produced some kind of mixed race and NOT a race of shape-shifters. Do mixed race couples of today produce children who can shape-shift from black to white and visa versa, before your eyes? Let's get real here !

Anyone who has witnessed Royal Family members shape shifting from human to reptilian, is on some really powerful mushrooms !!!!!

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 31, 2018:

Will Franklin, I am inclined to agree with you! It does cause some people to "dislike" others, and a lot stronger than dislike, and it creates division. At the same time, Icke says that division is used against us with the Illuminati employing divide and rule as a method of control of the "sheeple"! But what he preaches creates a division of "we the awakened people" versus the controlling evil Illuminati/Reptilians/Elite! "Hogwash" indeed!

Will Franklin on August 30, 2018:

Thats Hogwash. There are no such thing as shapeshifters. Its all a way to make people weary and dislike certain people.

Ryan on February 28, 2017:

The illuminati are real. I am from the Collins family bloodline on both my mother's and father's side. I have been researching this kind of stuff for about 15 years now. Not all people of the bloodlines are involved or have any idea about what is going on or even care. I am not sure I buy in to the reptilian idea fully but maybe on the fence. David Icke it seems to me is just trying to get the information out there and wants you to decide for yourself. He is full of great information. As far not getting information from main stream media remember that the Rothschild family is one of the 13 families and they own Reuters which owns The Associated Press where main stream media gets their news to forward on to us. This agenda is about the control of the world and it's resources human or otherwise. The central bankers and power that be in the world are not looking out for the people or the planet only themselves. You can watch the YouTube video "The Ring of Power" it has a ton of great information on this subject. (hint: the 13 red and white stripes are the flag of the Tribe of Dan which became the Vikings (6Kings VI=6) which became the British monarchy and continue to rule through that bloodline to this day.)

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on June 02, 2012:

Thanks for posting!

hidden realms on June 02, 2012:

great stuff! people need to wake up and realise what is going on. 99% of the worlds population is already brainwashed so theres no hope. but its good to see that there is people out there who have got their heads screwed on. the people who bow at the queens scaly feet are the crazy ones. all religions are can only find heaven within your self.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on December 23, 2011:

Thank you for your great feedback! I happen to agree with you on a lot of it and have fallen away a lot from conspiracy theory beliefs having noted the same as you that Icke and others like Alex Jones are no better than the mainstream media they condemn and that they are generating fear and division which they say are tools of the Illuminati. They are doing the same. Look up my hub on Familyism. The end result of listening to them breeds hatred and biased and divided thinking of 'we the people' versus 'them the elite' and illogical thought so that if you happen to have a surname of an elite family you are seen as "evil Illuminati scum" not as an individual. Also, as I have found over the past two years, of you disagree with standard conspiracy theory beliefs like those that Icke and Jones put out there, you will get their sheeple turning on you. They are not truth-seekers but another breed of sheeple.

mister matt on December 22, 2011:

yo dude i used to be a big believer in what david icke talked about, if nothing more just because it was more fun to me then the boring ass lies we are indoctrinated with from birth. The thing is though I found myself falling into this weird place with my research and it was well.... let's just say dark. then i realized that I wasn't too far off from falling off the deep end and completely losing myself in all the subterfuge, but alas, I climbed out of the rabbit hole and realized that anything i wasn't experiencing first hand was either propaganda, rhetoric, programming or all of the above. All with agendas, mostly for profit. I thought the best way to make a difference was by being the best person that I could be and making a difference on the micro level therefore having a positive impact on the world..... well all that has changed lately because I experienced a conspiracy realization manifestation (let's call it) lately that was comparable to waking from the matrix literally, and you know what? Just like in the movie the truth really really sucked. i felt totally hopeless, mostly because of mankind's track record. the reality is this, david icke and his new age guru counterparts are part of the same reptilian agenda they claim to expose, not part of the resistance but part of the problem. fear mongering! they are not snuffed out because they are helping to perpetuate new age love and light which is a fancy way of framing up the new world order. the truth is much much darker then anyone one of them has ever postulated, well maybe not mr. icke. the reason the information ever even surfaced is because the best way to hide something is out in the open and most people will think it's silly anyway because of their dogmatic programming. also... the info is truth laced with outrageous mind bending manipulative programming lies that will turn the most aware and awake of our times into the captains of the titanic (guys who had training, but not the proper training) which will sail on down to a pillar of salt, if you know what i mean, and by golly.... we almost deserve it. Humanity is so disjointed from the earth we no longer deserve to serve her. when you think about it, a "new world" is exactly what we need. we have made the same mistakes for so long we should all perish for our contempt. all people want to do is blame everyone but themselves, and the reality is the world is (and this goes back to what i was saying earlier)....yours. If the world sucks it's because you, I and everyone else make it suck, we are the 99%. we, in our own personal micro experience make it what it is. the 1% doesn't have the power we do, we have free will and we ruin it with the blame game instead of action. so naturally, what do you do with cancer that kills your body you introduce it to radiation aka, a bombs, mind control, and slavery, and probably in that order. one last word of advice, if you want to live in a brain dead nuclear cannibalistic zombie wasteland, when you see the ufo's and religious prophets show up at the same time and they say hey everyone come over here for a big surprise.... don't! it might not seem it, but i'm being the least cynical i can be. i guess those reptilians sunk my battleship. one more question to ask? If our ancient alien ancestors set all of this up from the jump and knew how it would end, why? why bother? why now? and did we ever stand a chance? the only truth is inner truth, living by your own integral laws will distinguish all darkness, if not in this life, than in ascension for sure. i experienced that feeling in the micro and macro as they became one so i can say that with a certainty, everything else i just wrote is part of my programming.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on December 12, 2011:

Thanks for your comments, Aaron!

Aaron... on December 11, 2011:

The whole Draco thing makes total sense to me, even with the simple thing or referring to Harry Potter.. Draco Mouthow of however you spell it, is in slitherin.. which are snakes. the slitherins can also shaprshift from human to snake, like the reptilian race can. I mean this could very well be coincident, but there are so many clue as to it not being. I appreciate the post, and find almost everything to make total sense to me.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on November 18, 2011:

It appears he believes them!

BobInBridgeport on November 18, 2011:

To Bard of Ely:

Why do you think Mr. Icke is doing this? It is making him lose all credibility? Do you think that the Illuminati are forcing him to say these silly things so that no one will believe anything he has said?????

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on November 18, 2011:

Icke's latest takes it all to the Moon which he claims is hollow and where the Reptilians base their HQ for controlling this world.

BobInBridgeport on November 17, 2011:

While theories concerning the Illuminati and the possible connection to them of royal families, heads of state and heads of commerce seems plausible to me, the thought of all of them being reptilian shape shifters is totally unscientific and falls right in there with Batman and Spiderman comics. I got all excited when I discovered David Icke on line and was just about to purchase some of his books, but if they all culminate in this reptilian nonsense I don't think I will waste my money.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on September 30, 2011:

A growing number do!

Simon on September 30, 2011:

haha David dIcke should be carted off in a padded wagon. I'm surprised they let people in that condition run around on their own.

Seriously, if someone started their "magic" adventure, going to a psychic to treat their arthritis (lol), and soon finds themselves having "special shudders" at an Incan site (because Incan sites add credibility, though none of us know why), then professes to get all his messages from magic spirits, talking to him while no one else can hear..... seriously... how can anyone take that seriously?

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on April 30, 2011:

Thanks for your feedback, Mandrake_1975!

As it happens, over the past few years I have been moving more away from being in support of Icke's material and can see that he is causing division amongst people by a method which he derides in his work calling it a tool of the Illuminati, namely the idea of divide and rule. I have noted that Icke's fans/supporters become biased and hateful towards people (and their families) he identifies as reptilian shape-shifter satanists with very debateable evidence given.

Regarding what I was trying to say about the royals being German is making the point that the British public are being conned. They are led to believe that their monarchy are British when in fact this is not the case. British people like to have a sense of national pride and this has been encouraged in the past but it is hard to have this if your monarchy are foreigners I would have thought. It is another example of how the masses are deluded by the cultural system they are brought up in which feeds false info via the media, politics and religions.

Mandrake_1975 from Pennsylvania on April 29, 2011:

I like your posts on conspiracy related research material, Bard. You are an excellent writer and I can see that you have a working knowledge of the topic!

I don't personally care for David Icke (he is too "New Age" for my tastes), but I respect his opinions and I am willing to listen to them. If David Icke were correct about any of his postulates then I would have to concur with your earlier comment that such beings are quite like "demons."

Now, I also must say that I am of German descent and I do have to wonder what we are getting at here by pointing out that the royals are German. What exactly does that mean? Sure Hitler had some odd beliefs concerning the Germans, but that does not make them true, nor does it mean a German is necessarily bad. I do however know from my research that you may be referring to the continued lineage of the Holy Roman Empire. I'm just not certain as to what you are getting at. Would you please explain?

As always your hubs are informative and well written. Please do keep them coming!

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on April 28, 2011:

Thank you for sharing this feedback, Seventh Sister!

Seventh Sister on April 27, 2011:

I remember posting about Arkturians before any sign of the word could be found on the Internet, this was part of a reality experiment, but Arkturians WHERE a real race.

Evolution is only for the mind to perceive what's its already seeing in order to change or interact with.

Teach one monkey to light a fire and there relatives on a far away land will do the same, and this is how I have awoken you.

I am the X-Box Eye, I was the one whose theories caused scientists from all over the world to commune at SPL and to throw seven million funding away.

I was the one who proved quantum physics to Cambridge university knowing of there plagiaristic ways.

I have saved millions upon millions of lives with warnings of disasters, not from foreseeing, but from knowing how things work.

And I have barely two pennies to rub together, no one knows my name, most of my own family are dead and yet I, I prove that one person can influence and change the lives of an entire world.

Now to Reptilians, These genetic retards do exist, they are not superior and infarct have what's known as 'negative intelligence' where by they are so stupid and xenophobic that they continuously wipe each other out.

Reptilians where not the first race of being on earth, infact the Human genetic code has the majority of the first real race of beings on Earth, Reptilians and there varying names, wiped out the first race and then rebuilt it way back in Sumerian times.

There is a secret eugenics war against certain RH- blood type offspring for which the evidence is overwhelming SHOULD SOMEONE HAPPEN TO LOOK IN TO THIS'.

Many medicines are tested as being safe for use having been found to damage certain offsprings of RH- and O blood types.

Another un-researched fact that would open a can of worms is the fact that most people claiming to be abductees have parents with those two blood types.

Illuminati and freemason beliefs teach the naïve members that these offspring are of an invading blood type, when infact all is lost for Humanity if they are wiped out.

To this date I have seen no one pick up on this information for which the evidence is overwhelming.

Here is a clue 'Claxo Smith Cline', 'Seroxat/Paxil'.

Now something for reptilians, I know that you do not remember your history despite the genetic reprogramming and passing of memories.

This is because of an effect called 'magnetomic compression' which is caused when two galaxies collide.

During the process of when your race traveled here long ago, the world you originally where appointed to resettle fell on a line of unforeseen magnetomic compression.

This effect causes gravity to super compress the rate of electricity thou out your being, in much the same way as a badly made 'amplifier'.

This causes you to go insane, primeval, and causes a loss of memory up to the point of the compression.

You where once working with all the races you attack, you where once a beautiful race, but you have fallen so far from the tree.

You will be cast from this place as the divide is growing, as you refuse to stand up against each other to do the right thing, you are a classic example of self repression and you behavior is echoed upon the other races you encounter.

Your influence is creating the things you fear, you must understand what has happened to you, if you want to survive, then take a back seat and have faith in all the others.

Now for the people of Earth:

Your perception effects reality, a dream is the reality of only one, remove the obstacles from your mind, and from the minds of all, and they can no longer exist, and they can no longer harm you.

This is the physics of matter, the fields you exist within that sustain the current and forces inside your body.

If you desire proof then ask Dr Emoto.

This knowledge is well known to all western governments, in experiments on matter prove of your minds effect, and that the more minds have greater effect, these tests where done on cancer cells by American, English, Canadian and Russian governments long ago.

Now ask yourself, DOES SMOKING REALLY CAUSE CANCER ?, or is that something of a convenience to rid the world of what is considered weak.

Because if weak is not knowing, then denial is the first step.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on January 02, 2011:

Thank you for your detailed thoughts on this matter, CJ!

CJ on January 01, 2011:

christopherstanton i may ask you one question and lets see how your british lines tie to this. It seems to me that you are very determined to say that david icke is wrong when you never bothered to look at the facts in your own backyard sir. Have you ever noticed how all the Britain lines all trace back to greece? and to germany in the first place? Do you ever ask yourself that maybe i should open my mind to more things then media rubbish england puts out,and you demand concrete evidence,when its right in front of you!!! The Queen and other of the royal family are very secretive(minus the kids they had who i can not say or judge them)..has anyone cared to notice that? That they operate as if they are an secret agency? Also might i add that it was what i believe the belgian wave,should set your mind on just about what evidence you need for alien reality sir. More then 1,000 people witnessed this event. Understand me 1,000 people that you see everyday witnessed this event,and your saying they are wrong?? WITNESS IT FIRST SIR THEN JUDGE PEOPLES OPINIONS/Ways of life. Thank you and understand im bent on proving people this is right.

CJ Coughlin on January 01, 2011:

Everyone seems to believe that we have to see it to believe it. I believe on contrary that it should be if i witness it, i believe it. It shows accounts of the so called shapeshifters taking children from AFRICA and using them as sacrifice in Creoke wuato work. If true,and its going undetected,there would be a huge uproar around the world over this one little undetected disaster(yes undetected its not all over the media like you would think?) thing. We all forget one thing, If this race has interbreed in the human race.

That they would not be recognizable to us,they would have to have similar traits to make it significant that these are not normal people like you and your viewers on this page. I have looked for things that all people recognize and have notice one thing about them. For one they act very stone any of them in human form act like its nothing big if its a financial disaster,they just stick to their guns and question the people. Second the eyes of these people(they say eyes are windows to the soul). Well to my surprise if u look at their eyelids they are DISORIENTED,they don't seem right,then there eyes have all this green glimer in it. Call me crazy but it was in every single photograph of what David Icke had thought was a Zionist culture of lizards ruling world undercover.

Also i believe that the Royal Family is part of this conspiracy. Will they admit it ever? lets think..NO. These are species of fear, when a disaster happens,we have fear after the event. Hence why i think they are linked to 9/11 in more then one way. Also watch some things on the pentagon incident..very interesting. Finally to wrap it up again, I have had these dreams in my young life(almost like what Joyce went through but even more in detail),that have shown me what potentially is the future destruction that could potentially happen on earth(i have had 3 of them come true so far out of 3 i yeah u get the picture). Want one sign why am very worried at the moment. The CONSTANT war we are in,the famine(we could fix no excuse),and disease all over AFRICA,Africa is the key piece to the puzzle people,we find some evidence from these african people(who have no media,live life to its fullest,and accept anyone not within destruction terms) and this thing is solved in my eyes. I also have seen several things before they have occurred in my life,worse then deja vu.

LIke when i was young i was in a dream where a tower was burning,i walked through the dream, and i see all the people screaming in fear,then i calm my mind and let the fear out and open my eyes because i can't see this pain,It was to much for a young boy of only like 5-6. The most shocking dream i had was when i was about 15,only i remember this because of my surprisingly, accurate memory on the dream itself. I remember seeing one thing i will never forget(not an alien abduction for you people wondering) I saw this so called alien that looked like a komodo dragon/warrior mix. This lizard was talking to a court of galactic order(the dream is sketchy in details,i see like a judge,human race representatives,and like four other species) and they are accusing the lizard race of acts toward humanity that are so called against galactic law,and will deem the species non existent if does not follow these laws. The species denies these accusations and that the human race is only a mear asset to their species overall, nothing more.the next sequence in the dream is what gets me ticked. They then say that they are planning a take over of earth at about end of an era in human history(new age era as i researched) for some kind of resource" we have below the mother earth" exact words i remember from this dream the leader komodo said. When i wake up from dream i feel like a different person because suddenly i want to solve this.

All i have to say is Bard of Ely, I might be the missing piece to this.. i have seen things in dreams you would be scared to tell anyone because they would question you. These DREAMS did not come out of nowhere they just came to me in my sleep..its interesting believe me. They now all connect to this so called super species is intriguing me because i truly believe we are mearly chess pieces in a game,that are being tricked at a higher level consciousness very few people understand. Icke described it to me perfectly, i seem to move faster then everyone around me man, i feel a step ahead of everyone..its so very strange( They call it ADHD,and NLD, i call it none of those), im in a car with my dad and instead of seeing trees my mind flashes me burnt down ones(like literally destroyed) or landscapes utterly destroyed,but why? because i don't know and i know no psychologist knows. Which why i have been searching for answers ever since. I believe that if you read this u think im insane,a crazy kid warped by the reality of impossible things. Well im being throughfuly honest with you about all these accounts,strange or not, i am not crazy,i am just on another thinking plane that few ppl in world understand or can reach,and im young that is what is scary to me.

Gracious to all believers,and wish the world would understand the good we humans have not, CJ COUGHLIN

Kitty on December 03, 2010:

there's a reference to emperor justinian shapeshifting on wikipedia, i believe...

dunno about reptiles. Maybe. maybe they're vampires.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on November 13, 2010:

Thanks for that, DrakeUnlimited!

Christopher Antony Meade from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom on June 05, 2010:

I've seen his documentaries. I,ve read his websites. I've read interviews that he has given, but I have not read his books. I dont intend to either. I would begrudge him the royalities, or should I say "the reptileities".

David Icke and his "Followers" can hardly complain about the abuse that is thrown at him. It is nothing compared with the abuse that he throws at those he targets. He, afterall, is the person who claims other people are reptiles. I,m surprised that you associate with the lizards in Tenerife. Are you not afraid that they might be "Illuminati Babies"? Just dont let any of them see what you are writing.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on June 05, 2010:

There are many reasons I choose to live here and none of them are to do with royalty or political leaders but far more to do with wildlife and not so damaged countryside where wild flowers, bees and lizards are still common.

Have you read any of David Icke's books on which to make your judgement?

Christopher Antony Meade from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom on June 04, 2010:

Each to their own. However I feel that the real parasites are those who make fortunes selling books that contain nothing but lies or the rantings of the seriously delusional. If you have such an aversion to royalty why do you live in Spain? Perhaps your republican sensibilities would make you more suited to living in a republic. I suggest North Korea.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on June 04, 2010:

We have no need for these people (royalty) who are basically parasites and do not deserve their wealth or power! It is as simple as that! The Commonwealth in itself is reason enough not to support any of them - it was built by invading other countries and enslaving and destroying other cultures! What on Earth is good about that? I have no respect at all for the system of having royalty for any country! It is insane!

Christopher Antony Meade from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom on June 04, 2010:

If you dont know you obviously live on a different planet than the greater part of the british population, or for that matter the greater part of the population of The Commonwealth.

The notion that the Royal Family is German, and is thus less worthy of their position for that reason, is not alone rascist but inaccurate, since royalty is by its nature something that trancends national borders. All the European royal families are related. That is how it goes. I suggest that, in future, before you pontificate for your fans on the supposed demerits of Her Majesty you acquaint yourself with the basic facts. And you can tell your ridiculous friend David Icke the same.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on June 03, 2010:

Cheer her for what?

Christopher Antony Meade from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom on June 02, 2010:

I was one of the two million people who crowded into The Mall to Cheer The Queen during her golden jubilee in 2002.

When David Icke can inspire even a fraction of that many people he can speak.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on February 14, 2010:

Thank you again, Bonny!

bonetta hartig from outback queensland on February 14, 2010:

Another greathub -just when Iam about to say goodnight to the world I spot another title Iam familiar with -oh well its all food for themind - anyway I have always believed this about those in power - and my way of proving it to ou myself is to look closely at their features I believe you can come fairly close to telling a persons character by identifying the animal, reptile etc they closely resemble in facial features and mannerisms - it works for me - so thanks for another good read - now Iam really going as its 1am over here and I have get up at 5 to feed the roos.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on December 20, 2009:

Yes, I agree!

SXP from South Africa on December 19, 2009:

Now that I read all this talk on reptilians and the word "Dragons" in on the same hub, I have a question. Where did all the folklore and stories about talking dragons come from? Surely these things might have some roots in something that people knew about ages ago? Maybe fariy tales have more to it than we think.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on November 04, 2009:

Thanks for posting, Lisa! As you can see I support David too!

lisadpreston from Columbus, Ohio on November 04, 2009:

David Icke is an incredible human being.Nothing about this world or the people in it made sense to me until i heard Ickes explanation. Hes so brave and I admire him.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on October 10, 2009:

Thanks for posting, CMHypno! The more truths that emerge and the more people that agree on what is true then the less room for disagreement there would be. That is why I am all for getting controversial material into the public arena where it can be examined!

CMHypno from Other Side of the Sun on October 10, 2009:

Hi Bard of Ely, I don't agree with everything that David Icke says, but I do admire his courage in standing up for his beliefs and putting them out there, especially with all the abuse and attempts at defamation that are slung at him.

Will we ever live in a world where every person's beliefs are respected, and where even if we don't agree with them we uphold that person's right to have them?

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 18, 2009:

Thank you, Pam!

Increasingly in the UK police state people are sick of the royals and the government and can see that brave protestors like Brian Haw are right about the evil and corrupt way things are run! The people did love Diana though and look what happened to her!

pgrundy on August 18, 2009:

Steve, I've seen aliens and so has one my kids. It's not something you want to go around saying right out because people laugh at you. I haven't had any experiences since my 30s, but I don't discount it by any means. I still have a vivid image of a face that I will never forget. No one can tell me it was an unconscious symbol or hallucination any such thing, this was a real creature.

Not much to do about it though except share when it seems safe and feel like a wingnut the rest of the time. Don't know about the Queen but the Draco, I think there's something to it.

When I was in England in 1972 I was shocked by the way Londoners talked about the Queen. Over here we are taught you all just love, love, love the Royals but lots of people obviously did NOT. lol! Great hub, thanks. :)

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 18, 2009:

Thank you for reading my hub and posting, Rainshadow!

rainshadow on August 17, 2009:

All things are possible. But I don't beleive everything without some personaly observed evidence.

I have read excerpts, books, articles etc. from many varied points of origin my entire life that intimated a Reptiloid presence. Often where a seeming myth persists and continues to flourish, there is at least a grain of truth (if not more) to be found.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 17, 2009:

David Icke came across plenty of evidence for putting forward this material by way of reports from people such as Arizona Wilder, Stewart Swerdlow and Christine Fitzgerald backed up by being told by Zulu shaman Credo Mutwa about the extraterrestrial Chitauri reptilian beings in the Zulu belief system. He could see that around the world there are dragons and reptilian beings like the Nagas in religious traditions and legends. He could see that dragons are an important part of heraldry. Why are there dragons and reptilian beings in traditions all around the world if they do not or did not exist?

I left Wales a place where you find dragons on the architecture of the capital city and came to Tenerife only to find more dragons in the coats-of-arms of towns like Puerto de la Cruz and again on architecture in towns and cities. What do you claim these dragons are? Why have they been held in such high regard if they don't exist?

Plants and Oils from England on August 17, 2009:

Because I look at things in a rational, evidence-based way. Is it possible that certain people are shape-shifting reptiles? Yes. Is it remotely likely, or justified by the evidence? Not even slightly.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 16, 2009:

I totally disagree with you on that. To my way of thinking David is one of the most sane and aware people on the planet and that is why I support his work.

Why do you say David is "nuts?"

Plants and Oils from England on August 16, 2009:

"Basically the answer is no, because if they did it would make him a martyr and show to his followers that what he was saying was right and so he was assassinated."

Doesn't add up, sorry. They'd have got him right at the start. He's seriously nuts.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 16, 2009:

He has answered this on video somewhere. Basically the answer is no, because if they did it would make him a martyr and show to his followers that what he was saying was right and so he was assassinated. The powers-that-be have done all they can to shut him up though with attacks in the media ridiculing him and public demonstrations against him, one of which I saw in Cardiff where Anti-Nazi League were trying to stop people attend a lecture he gave. It has been a real struggle for him to be able to be a public speaker on many occasions. David also believes he is protected.

Plants and Oils from England on August 16, 2009:

If what David Icke said was true (and personally, I think he's ripe for the nearest psychiatric ward) there's a big flaw. Wouldn't these "reptiles" sort him out, stop his book getting published, or kill him off?

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 16, 2009:

I don't see it as "blaming" but more as an awareness of a lifeform that is harmful to us. This is why I personally do not think of reptilians as "evil" but as predators. We are their prey and have been their slaves if the theory put forward by Icke and others is correct.

The question is though: are the Reptilians from another planet? Dr Steven Greer would say no because he says all ETs are not harmful, however, Icke, Stewart Swerdlow, Alex Collier and others would say he is wrong on that and claim that the Reptilians are the Draco race from another star system.

There are claims that Greys and Reptilians have been created here and are not "aliens," then there is Peggy Kane who claims that all spirit sources that are channelled are Reptilians.

David Icke lost other supporters when The Biggest Secret came out and it turns out you were one of them William. But he gained many more since then. He presents the "truth" as he finds it and the Reptilians as a reality he was being told by a lot of people in that time period and he found it was backed up by myths, legends and religious texts worldwide.

Personally I believe in the reality of these beings but am undecided as to how they got here. I think of them as what are known as demons.

William Bond from England on August 16, 2009:

I did used to read conspiracy theory books and magazines and did read some of David Icke's earlier books. But it was the book "The Big Secret" that put me off completely from conspiracy theories and David Icke. I personally though the whole idea that we were being ruled by alien reptiles completely crazy.

To me it is just a reinvention of the Devil. In the past people blamed the Devil for everything thing that was going wrong in the world. Now it is alien reptiles. I suppose it is easier for people to blame the Devil or aliens than to blame ourselves, for the mess we have made of the world.

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 16, 2009:

Thank you for your thoughts, Lou! Yes, David has mentioned V as a pretty accurate depiction of what is going on!

Lou Purplefairy from Southwest UK on August 15, 2009:

Do you remember a TV series in the "80s in the UK called "V"? It was about a bunch of alien reptilian beings who has taken over the earth, and had human disguises. They were all in positions of power and were hell bent on destroying the human race. I can also follow with what David Icke says about the reptilian shape shifters and think his theory holds water, due to all of the references I have found thoughout history about the "brotherhood of the snake" dragons, and cultural references to reptilian gods.There are many stories in folklore about creatures which live underground which feed on humans. And I find it ironic that the so called royal family is "english". I saw a documentary a few years ago, that the true heir to the english throne was a guy called John who lived in Australia!Gotta feel sorry for old HRH Liz, tho, she's struggling to keep her big house on the £7m a year she gets off the taxpayer. Now there's the biggest benefit cheat in the UK!

Steve Andrews (author) from Lisbon, Portugal on August 15, 2009:

Thanks for your posts, Frogdropping and UW!

Frogdropping, David has explained it all in detail many times and does so in the interview I linked in the text and personally I can follow what he is saying especially with regard to other dimensional beings.

Susan Keeping from Kitchener, Ontario on August 15, 2009:

Me thinks David Icke is watching too much Doctor Who..

Andria on August 15, 2009:

Bard - The reptilian 'thing' does flummox me a bit but that's probably a lack of understanding as to the true meaning.

I still like David Icke and what he is about. I actually do remember Diana referring to the family as lizards - though forget when.

Nice article, thanks :)

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