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Covid-19: Exaggerated or Understated?

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I remember as a child during school vacation I saw a censored movie on a local station one rainy day.

There is one scene in that movie that has been coming to mind since the outbreak of Covid-19. The movie is Die Hard With A Vengeance. A light bulb goes off in John McClaine's head when he realizes what all the attacks around the city were really about.

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I think the reason I think of this scene in particular is the fact that there are so many citizens of the world in a panic. They get news from media outlets and they do not know what is true and what is false. Everybody knows that there is something that does not add up.

There are forecasts of massive deaths.

There are forecasts of it ending when the weather gets hot.

There are news stories about the fact that the countries of Africa, which are some of the hottest on Earth, will be hardest hit.

People have died.

People have been quarantined.

People have recovered.

Every nation suspects the other nations of covering up the truth.

When China says people are dying, people get suspicious.

When they say people are getting better, people get suspicious.

Is it from bats? Was it made in a lab?

Why is it so very contagious?

Why is everything shutting down because of it?

Are the world leaders telling the truth?

Do some know more than others?

What's the real agenda behind this?

Is there a real agenda or is this really just another type of plague?

Are they doing all of this so that everyone will willingly take the vaccine when developed?


Pandemic

It's been declared a pandemic but many say that that should have been declared weeks ago and it is out of hand.

Panic buying is happening on every continent and island.

Lysol, Panadol, Purell, and most makers of toilet paper, are rolling around in the money like Scrooge McDuck.

They can't make their products fast enough.

Meanwhile, other businesses are quickly going bankrupt and the world economy looks like it will hit rock bottom.

What's the economy got to do with it?

Is this so that the playing field becomes level and nations can rise and conquer when this thing is really over?

Who stands to gain the most from this?

Can anyone really gain anything from this? (except Lysol, Emergen-C and those others guys who are really raking it in)

Is it just me or are there many unanswered questions?


Who's at risk?

Do the elderly have the most to fear because death is highly likely?

How then did a woman who is 103 and a man who is 101 recover from the deadly flu? (sorry, virus)

Did they have no underlying conditions?

Do people who have underlying conditions have a chance of survival then?

Young people don't get it - that information was emphatic.

Italy turns around and says -nope, they are getting it here.

Another solid stab of fear distributed equally among the citizens of the Earth.

Why are some cases mild and others dangerous?

Did it really mutate or were there two strains all along?

How many people have it and don't know?

If the numbers are as large as medics/scientists speculate then how is this a pandemic if the majority of people get a sniffle?

It is excruciatingly contagious this is why, we are told.


Lose everything but save your life. Wait until June.

Don't go anywhere.

Don't touch anything.

Cough or sneeze in your elbow....then bump elbows with another person rather than shaking hands.

Work from home.

Close restaurants and stores and schools.

Cease all productivity until this mostly mild but highly contagious pandemic is contained.

Avoid all crowds.

Stock up on supplies before they run out in the madhouse that used to be known as a grocery.

Make sure to wear a mask....but they aren't really effective so you shouldn't wear them. Stop buying them -leave them for the health care professionals.

Some people are taking the opportunity to go where they can while they can. If it is so contagious you can catch it anywhere!

Flights are cheap and airlines are on the brink of financial disaster.

Small businesses everywhere are at risk of being killed by the Coronavirus.

The employees have to be let go.

The owners are running out of capital to pay bills and cover costs.

Schools are dismissed so students are going to pubs and taking early spring break.

Everything is a contradiction.

Soon, there will be a vaccine - by June for sure. No - in eighteen months. (both sets of information given by mainstream media, not social media)

For some reason June has a lot to do with this Covid-19 virus.

It will be hotter then.

The vaccine should be available then.

The governments of the world will have it contained by then.

What a month to look forward to!

Until then, if you want to live then just forget about everything. Money can't buy your life.

No, really.

People are more in a panic, I think, about how long they will be able to last in these conditions. No income, no hope of income, bills piling up and a terrible fear in the pit of their stomachs.

Is this you?

No money to pay rent and you may be kicked out.

In the process of losing your business and everything you worked hard for to be homeless.

Debt piling up and even more depression (it seems most people were depressed before this outbreak).

I read someone's comment about the likelihood of a significant increase of suicides by people who just can't live without means and I don't think it's farfetched.


What's really going on?

With my mind stuffed full of information, a lot that I haven't even mentioned, I still have more questions than answers.

What I do know is that people have panicked and that the panic has spread because of the media.

Intentional or unintentional? Draw your own conclusions.

Everywhere, governments have more control over their people that they have ever had before.

Intentional or unintentional? Draw your own conclusions.

Regular illnesses and other causes of death are all on the back burner. This is the killer.

Number of deaths of Covid-19 so far, 5,831. Total number of deaths from January to March 15th 2020- 11,900,000 of those - 2,626,878 died of communicable disease. (https://www.worldometers.info/)

But a lot of those are probably not because people are sick with other illnesses, right?

I remain confused and for now almost certain that we do not know half of the truth and possibly may never know it.

What do you think?


© 2020 North Wind

Comments

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on July 30, 2020:

Thanks for your input, Sharlee. I do think that the media is keeping up the hysteria.

Sharlee on July 30, 2020:

In my view, the virus is --- a new virus that we know little about due to its newness. It's far has shown to be different in many ways than previous viruses. It is virulent, and spreads quickly, and can be deadly to the elderly more than the young. The questions on how to handle such a crisis are many. Many find themselves pointing the finger of how the epidemic is being handled. But suggestions on what they would have done differently are zero or actually have been done.

It is apparent the media is keeping the general public in a form of hysteria due to the virus. In my view, we have been dealt a hard blow with this virus. However, we need to buck up and get through it. We have another choice.

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on July 30, 2020:

Hi Peggy - thanks for your input!

Since a few months have passed and July is almost over, I still feel confused about this. Too many things do not add up.

I see the statistics and the deaths but are all of them really because of COVID - 19 alone? I have heard of people being declared positive who have never taken a test. I have heard that numbers are being changed in the hospitals because of government funding opportunities. I have also heard that regular patients in certain states are being denied health care.

True? False? Who knows?

Why are there so many Tik-Tok videos of doctors and nurses dancing in empty wards?

Who has time to learn dances in sync when you are over run with patients?

I have a regular job and I can't learn a dance like that in breaks between work or after work. I am too tired.

To me, there are many, many questions about this that are unanswered.

Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on July 16, 2020:

At this point, the statistics of infections and deaths speak for themselves. Hospitals in many parts of the U.S. are being filled with COVID-19 patients plus the regular ones who need care. We are banned from travel to Europe if living in the U.S. Medical experts are pleading with people to wear masks because it can prevent the spread of coronavirus. It is a simple enough thing to do if we care about others. I would rather err on the side of caution during a pandemic. This pandemic is not a hoax!

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on April 23, 2020:

Sorry for taking so long to reply, everybody. I had many, many things that kept me from getting on to Hubpages.

@ T - it seems that I meet a lot of people like that these days.

@ Sharlee - yes, I have been checking that site as well and I have been looking at the general rates of death from every other thing on a daily/yearly basis per country.

Since it has been five weeks I see the numbers rising but have unanswered questions still. More than I had before, actually.

@ Demas W Jasper - yes, being prepared is always wise. I think that we can be prepared only so much, though. Mankind isn't invincible. Therefore, part of our preparedness should be preparing to face death with courage and not fear.

@ Lucy - Who knows what June will bring? Every time there is one article talking about how we might just be able to take a breath, another ten pop up stating that we'll be under restrictions until 2021 and everyone will have to have walking papers etc. Life will never be the same and we won't be able to gather at all until 2022.

For sure I know one thing - before this, people were not aware of the regular rate of deaths per day. A lot of people die every day and I would think in a pandemic that the rate of deaths would exceed the rate of births or at least equal it.

@ T - It does seem as though all of the governments want this economic depression. I mean, yes, you could say that they care about the lives of their people but.......when has that ever been true?

In that regard, I am a cynic and I don't think they care about the great unwashed as they say they do.

The Logician from now on on March 18, 2020:

Hard to believe the stock market is now lower than when Trump was inaugurated. And we don’t even have any financial results from companies to justify such a drop - it’s total fear and more evidence that the stock market can be manipulated imo. I think the specialists want it to go lower and can accentuate the direction of the market in times like this. Throw in computer trading moving billions of dollars in and out of the market daily and look out!

Lucy from Leeds, UK on March 18, 2020:

Informative and interesting article. Let's hope that things are sorted out by June; this entire situation has an eerie and surreal touch to it, aside from the COVID-19 also being tragic and generating many deaths worldwide.

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on March 17, 2020:

I have just posted on the need to prepare ahead for emergencies, of which this latest virus is just one example. There can be panic and irrational responses when the public realizes they are ill-prepared. This is a chance to measure our preparedness needs and do something about them. The saying is realistic which says, "Forewarned is forearmed." Even a pandemic was predictable, just as war is.

Sharlee on March 16, 2020:

yes T. The site I offered put things into perspective. This flu is hitting the elderly and immune-suppressed'. Many that contracted Coronavirus are now speaking out about the mild symptoms. This flu does not come near to H1N1 in severity or the numbers affected. Although we have to keep in mind H1N1 was around for a year, not much was done to stop the spread.

The Logician from now on on March 16, 2020:

Thanks Sharlee for the link. That is really useful information! The closed cases reminds us that almost everybody gets over it and goes on with life.

Sharlee on March 15, 2020:

I think the stats at this point are pointing to an exaggerated problem. Yes, one we need to address, but in the usual way. We need to take universal precautions and develop a vaccine as we do for every new virus. Time to be realistic, calm down, and realize this is the flu virus. People die every year of the flu, the stats would shock anyone that did just a bit of research on the subject. In the end, we will get a vaccine, we will get through this. I just hope this does not become a yearly thing. We have a yearly flu season, that is just a fact we must all accept, and live with. The media should stay out of the medical field. Follow the stats, they will provide facts on the severity of this virus.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The Logician from now on on March 15, 2020:

NW All I asked for was the source of his statement and you saw where that led.

But see I’ve dealt with his elitist personality before and he often makes statements he can’t back up are just plain aren’t true, and when called on it unleashes an attitude of condescension, raises a straw man, basically all and any of the leftist tactics we see used all the time to spread deceit or avoid the truth.

Invariably it ends with his declaration of his superiority and your insignificance in the shadow of his enlightened self. As he just did here.

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on March 15, 2020:

@ Vladimir Karas, never did I intend to belittle you. You were the one who commented in a manner that made it seem that I am a less than intelligent person.

Perhaps you did not read the article clearly. I fully agree that people have been dying of the flu for years and I do wonder if it has something to do with the economy and the stock market.

It is all there in the article.

For someone so optimistic you seem to get angry pretty quickly. I truly meant no offense.

Not that it matters to you but I would consider myself a well-read person too. Whether you have read more than I have or vice versa is inconsequential to me.

The problem here is complete miscommunication.

You did not read my article properly.

You did not read my first answer to you properly (I did not dismiss your claim and actually said it was possible.)

You then told me that you were surprised at yourself for wasting time about explaining something that was trivial, hence my response to you.

Finally, you scolded me and told me that I have seen myself in your explanation and that is why I dismissed it which was a shocking assumption seeing that I never dismissed your claim to begin with but was addressing the basis of your faith.

Just as you don't need this, neither do I.

Thank you for your explanation which I read thoroughly.

@T - I am in awe. To use an apt word - I'm dumbfounded.

The Logician from now on on March 15, 2020:

NW, you ever hear such gibberish?

You should be in awe of his excellency!

Val Karas from Canada on March 15, 2020:

North Wind -- I am not immortal, but I am prolonging my life with my chronic rosy disposition -- that's all I said, and if this time it's not clear again, maybe I could use a drawing or something.

Read about telomeres, and how they go short at slower rate with a good stress management. Read about psycho-neuro-immunology, and see connection between nervous, endocrine, and immune system. Read about placebo and nocebo effects on general health.

In other words, read -- before making belittling comments to someone who DOES read a lot.

And it's clear why. You didn't like what I said that people with less than good stress management are more likely to attract that corona. Somehow you saw yourself in that category, and that prompted you to twist logic around my claims and make it look like I was talking about my immortality. But it's O.K.. no hard feelings, but I won't be making any more comments here, because it's on the clear way to become somewhat embarrassing. I don't really need this, the sunset is beautiful, and music is good.

And, by the way, at normal flu season no country reports how many old and frail folks have died from it. Now they do it, attaching corona to it.

Every so many years it's time for the market to crush. In the past they started a major war to do it, and now they can't do it because of too many nukes around. So they came up with a massive propaganda via media -- one they have in their hands -- about corona, which caused global panic and a crush in market.For reasons which I don't understand -- not being an expert in economy -- this is supposed to be "good" to happen periodically.

And that's MY opinion, NOT claiming to be universally true.

You can choose to comment on this, but don't expect anything in return anymore.

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on March 15, 2020:

@ Vladimir Karas- Based on what you said, you believe that the mind can change the outcome and you have faith that that is so. Complete faith in your body. Therefore, since we all must die one day, by your logic, the day you die is the day you are not optimistic and lose faith in your body?

Thanks for condescending to me and explaining something that is so obviously beneath you!

@Eric Dierker - Everybody is running scared. In regards to the gym. I have noticed a few new people exercising in the mornings outside. Running on stairs etc. I suppose they are avoiding the crowd of the gym. They're making it quite comfortable for people like you.

Everyone is locking themselves up in the jail of their own homes all over the world. People are locking themselves in and are content to do the time even if it takes three to five months.

Whether this is for the good of the people or not, this is a huge deal.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on March 15, 2020:

So important. We are hard wired to look into matters. But with so many that gets replaced with soft wiring. I mean that viruses are good. Sorry but look at the facts. Old infirm people are dying.

Just saying --- and to note: My sons and daughters say I am old and infirm. So be it, my gym was empty again this morning.

The Logician from now on on March 15, 2020:

Val, you talk nonsense and sgain project on NW like you did me.

“People all over the world are consciously, with an intelligent effort changing ‘their time to go’”

That makes no sense because if you can change your time to go it wasn’t your time to go! Lol

And as you assert there is no time to be determined to go then how can it be changed?

You frequently make statements that make no sense or can’t back up as you have been shown to here. Respect of such a weird person is nothing I seek.

Val Karas from Canada on March 15, 2020:

T -- There are few people whose opinion I respect here on HP, and --you guessed it -- you are not one of those people. But don't give up, you may find someone on your level with whom you can exchange some toxic comments. I am way out of your league.

Val Karas from Canada on March 15, 2020:

North Wind -- "When it's your time to go, it's your time to go" -- is simply a tautology, I mean a repeated thought without one part of sentence "explaining" the other.

People all over the world are consciously, with an intelligent effort changing "their time to go", and that time is not "somewhere predestined in stars", in horoscope, or in any other aspect of "destiny", including our genome.

Actually, I am a little surprised at myself that I am even going into this simple thing, and sorry, but this is not the first time for me to run into "belief" as an "explanation".

Resting my case.

North Wind (author) from The World (for now) on March 15, 2020:

@ T - I did not know the numbers were so high with Swine Flu.

@ Umesh Chandra Bhatt - glad you agree with me.

@ Greg Schweizer - Yup. I'm not a conspiracy person either but there are just so many holes to all this.

@ Vladimir Karas - like T I am not familiar with that study at all. I understand that the mind can be quite powerful so I won't say it is impossible but Coronavirus or not, I do believe that when it is your time to go, it is your time to go. Hebrews 9:27

The Logician from now on on March 15, 2020:

You state you can’t remember anything about where that study can be found and then suggest “if you choose to also see a renowned scientist of Lipton's caliber as a charlatan, you may be due for examining your level of healthy skepticism.”

That’s odd because even you said you don’t know if Lipton had anything to say or do about the study so why exactly would I choose to see him as a charlatan?

You just presented a straw man apparently because you are threatened by my questioning your statement of some apparently ghost study which I only asked about so I could review exactly what it found. You don’t really seem to care an iota about evaluation of that study but want to make Lipton whom I never heard of nor commented the subject of my inquiry - that’s weird, and the definition of a straw man.

All I did was ask for the source to your statement which you couched like everybody knows about this study. I can’t find any reference even like it by googling so I ask you to help and you get weird.

Val Karas from Canada on March 15, 2020:

T -- Still not remembering where I read about that experiment, maybe I can at least direct you to the whole topic, where such an experiment could look more credible to you.

Read the book "Biology of Belief" by Dr.Bruce Lipton Phd. He is a famous cellular biologist, lecturing all over the world about epigenetics. He talks about the basic two modes of cell's functioning -- growing or defending, one minimizing the other when activated. Their activation depends on the signals that cell gets from our nervous system about "how safe and friendly environment is".

In terms of epigenetics, it pretty much boils down to our lowering our resistance to sickness at times when we feel threatened.

Here, I tried to make that experiment less of a fiction. You may find a lot about Bruce Lipton's work on You tube, including his lectures. As for that book, it is one of my favorite ones in the company of a few others which have all directed me towards my robust health at this age. Like I say, I am 75, haven't seen a doctor in 13 years, and not using any medications, including those over the counter.

But, of course, you can imagine me as a liar, it's your freedom, and I don't want to be rude to say in which little way it affects me when people think I am a liar.

By the way, I don't "believe everything I read" either, but when something works in practice, I sacrifice my skepticism for the benefits I get from applying it.

But if you choose to also see a renowned scientist of Lipton's caliber as a charlatan, you may be due for examining your level of healthy skepticism. I am done here, can't help more than this.

The Logician from now on on March 15, 2020:

Val, well then let me remind you of an old saying I adhere to:

“Don’t believe everything you read”

To adhere to that you need to question and not repeat what you don’t KNOW to be true. If something you read is true you can find proof, if you can’t then don’t believe it.

Val Karas from Canada on March 14, 2020:

T -- I don't remember, but it was in one of those many books on mind-body medicine that I have read. All right, so I couldn't "remind" you of something that you didn't know. What's left is whether you are willing to believe it or not. If you are not, I am perfectly fine with that. You don't need to worry about my credibility, you already have too many questions about that virus to worry about.

The Logician from now on on March 14, 2020:

Hmmm...you say, “let me remind you about that experiment in which two groups of volunteers where injected with flu virus -- and the group known for their general low moods got sick, while the group who were in high spirits and optimists -- didn't.”

Remind me? Please, tell me about that because I have never heard of it. I’d love to see a reference of such a study because googling it didn’t give me anything. If you know of such a study there must be an article about it, could you give me a link? Since I never even heard of such a study I can’t be reminded of it.

Val Karas from Canada on March 14, 2020:

Being a pragmatic dude I look at it this way.

Our body cells react to our impressions about "how friendly our environment is -- or is not", and then they adjust their level of vitality accordingly. Meaning that our immune system goes drastically down when we see our environment as unfriendly -- cells go into defensive mode, shutting down their growth and other normal functions.

In other words we are setting ourselves up for attracting any crap by just worrying our heads off.

I am 75, and I am not asking any questions, because I don't need any answers. To me it's life as usual -- and I trust my body. I haven't seen any doctors in more than 13 years -- including shrinks, lol.

While we are at this, let me remind you about that experiment in which two groups of volunteers where injected with flu virus -- and the group known for their general low moods got sick, while the group who were in high spirits and optimists -- didn't.

It's up to you, folks, how you want to think about it -- and from the pragmatic perspective, how that thinking will really "help", or not.

Greg Schweizer from Corona, California. on March 14, 2020:

My main question is, HOW DID THIS START? We know it is supposed to have started in China. Is this something that just grew by itself out of the clear blue? Is it something that came in from space? Or, is this something that was created by man? And if the latter, who? I have a conspiracy theory, but I'm keeping that to myself, at least for now. I do agree with "T" that the media is probably blowing it out of proportion to try and hurt Trump. However, non of the other crap they have tried has worked and neither will this, because it isn't his fault. Oh, by the way, I don't believe 99% of conspiracy theories and really don't believe mine. It just sounds cool when I say it to myself.

Umesh Chandra Bhatt from Kharghar, Navi Mumbai, India on March 14, 2020:

Well addressed. Confusing and contradicting things are seen in the media. It is all jumbled up.

The Logician from now on on March 14, 2020:

I think the media has jumped all over this with fear mongering and accusations of blame all designed to keep President Trump from being re-elected.

But like the Russian collusion, the impeachment, the Kavanaugh hearings this is just another made up ruse by globalists to try to oust a duly elected President and keep him from dismantling the deep state.

When Obama was the President the Swine Flu hit and “60 million people infected, 300,000 hospitalized. … We had a Democrat president by the name of Barack Obama, and the news then was how wonderfully well Obama was handling it, how expertly well Obama was dealing with it. There wasn’t any media panic. The Republican Party did not politicize it at all. They made not one single effort that anybody can find or remember to try to make political hay out of it. It was treated as a health issue from top to bottom. … Oh yeah, 17,000 died of the swine flu.”

Compare that to what is happening today and you will see the problem isn’t Trump, it’s the media’s and the Democrats’ (who are the globalists) politicization of covid 19.