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Clinton and Kennedy Family Conspiracies And what They Mean in America

The normally rationally thinking Mel ventures into the dark, shady, smoky realms of conspiracy theory.

The normally rationally thinking Mel ventures into the dark, shady, smoky realms of conspiracy theory.

Don't Think And Drive

A couple of weeks ago while driving either to or from work, an interesting thought wafted into my head from somewhere out on that mysterious ether from which writers collect their stranger ideas.

Perhaps I was listening to some self-appointed political pundit slash talking head at the time, droning on endlessly about the ugly red pimples on our Presidential candidates' respective donkey and elephant derrieres. Then some smoky smell blowing in through my air conditioner duct, or from my radio, made me think about conspiracies, how Americans love conspiracies. No matter how inoffensive a candidate may appear on the surface, there are always murdered bodies or at least grimy, waist-high laundry to be found festering in their closets. Some keen-nosed hound sniffing around the premises always finds something.

I try not to believe in conspiracy theories as a rule, but on this solitary drive, it suddenly occurred to me that the conspiracies revolving around the Kennedys involve them being murdered, whereas the Clinton family conspiracies suggest that they murder people. Why is this? Furthermore, is there any basis to these smoky, shady,mysterious imaginings of secret, behind the scenes machinations, or are they simply American mythology run amok?

The Freemasons feature prominently in many of our more savory conspiracies.

The Freemasons feature prominently in many of our more savory conspiracies.

Beneficiaries Behind The Bunk?

The great thing about conspiracy theories is that you don't have to prove them. In fact, the sheer lack of proof is taken as proof, because the conspirators are evidently involved in a giant cover up that completely sterilizes all incriminating signs of crime.

Then again, the conspiracy cover up artists sometimes leave footprints in the sand that make one scratch one's head and wonder. Perhaps there really isn't a conspiracy, perhaps these malefic actions truly are just curious coincidences, but sometimes the rapidly fading footprints washing away in the seawater make one ask the question of who benefited from the coincidental nefarious activities, and did they benefit repeatedly from repeated coincidences? One begins to think about the statistical probability of how many mysterious circumstances can surround a particular individual or group of individuals before a shape begins to develop out of the fuzzy cloud of random events.

It is in this light that I will examine these particular Clinton and Kennedy conspiracies. Most of the theories are probably pure bunk, but there are beneficiaries behind the bunk. This is why Americans, and probably people everywhere, form myths in the popular mind based upon their perception of the sketchy, distrusted, evil-agenda conspirators or their noble, defenders-of-the-popular-good victims.

One way or another, the Illuminati behind this owl has its fingers in every conspiracy pie.

One way or another, the Illuminati behind this owl has its fingers in every conspiracy pie.

I Shouted out, Who Killed the Kennedys?

The assassination of President of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, propelled him into a legendary status that he probably would not have enjoyed had he completely lived through one, or possibly two terms in the White House. Because of his untimely death, JFK has been enshrined by both sides of the political spectrum, left and right. Even conservative bulldog Rush Limbaugh has been known to speak fondly of the man, who is safely sequestered in Arlington National Cemetery.

The subsequent assassination of JFK's brother Robert on June 5, 1968, during Bobby's own Presidential bid, further deepened the air of mysterious reverence surrounding the family. The public perception of the Kennedys seems to be that if their members keep getting killed, they must have tried to do something good that the nebulous powers behind the throne did not appreciate.

Of course, the negative conspiracies surrounding the Kennedys must also be taken into consideration. In particular, we have Ted Kenedy's involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, who died by drowning after an automobile accident at Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts on July 18, 1969. After alleged secret inquests and cover-ups Ted received a slap on the wrist, but dark allegations of him strangling Mary Jo followed him to the grave. Despite this one ugly red mark, however, for the most part the conspiracy balance sheet is favorable toward the Kennedys.

Future President Lyndon B. Johnson, the Mafia, the CIA, the military industrial complex, the Russians, and other shadowy figures have been implicated by conspiracy theorists in John F Kennedy's assassination. With Robert we can list all of the above as culprits, plus a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress, a disgruntled security guard, Jimmy Hoffa, and commie brainwashers who turned SIrhan Sirhan into a Presidential killing robot. Curiously, the conspiracies surrounding both brothers both involve a second gunman, as if the powers behind the throne were so anxious to eliminate them that a backup Plan B was arranged, just in case..

Why are the Kennedys so revered in the minds of conspiracy buffs? Because they are dead, I think. Had both brothers lived, had Robert gone on to follow John into the White House, I am certain the sentiments surrounding the dynasty would have assumed the sinister tone coloring the Bush and Clinton families.

I am in accord with the Kennedy conspiracy theorists on one point. I give no credence to second shooters on grassy knolls, and I think Oswald acted alone - tactically. But as far as an overall strategic plan to kill the President, I want to know what assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was doing visiting the Cuban and Soviet embassies in Mexico a month before the assassinations. Marching orders? This bizarre occurrence may be put to rest in 2017, when CIA records related to this 1100 mile jaunt are scheduled to be released.

Another notable Kennedy death was that of John F. Kennedy Jr., via a plane crash in 1999. If your Facebook feed is flooded with Internet memes like mine, you may have seen our most dedicated conspiracy theorists circulating the idea that our next conspiracy encumbered family, the Clintons, took him out because he dared to challenge Hilary for the New York Senate seat in 2000. Truth or not, it makes for darn good memes.

Need to turn a random killing into an assassination plot?  Bring in the CIA.

Need to turn a random killing into an assassination plot? Bring in the CIA.

Clinton Carnage

Not since Charles Manson terrorized California in the late 60s has a "family" been accused of as many murders as the political dynasty of the Clintons, an allegedly murderous clan led by former President William Jefferson and current Presidential candidate Hilary Rodham. If you believe the memes and blogs and rumors, upwards of 50 people associated with the Clintons have been killed to snuff out witnesses of their nefarious deeds.

The murder weapon employed by these most skillful Clinton assassins is "mysterious circumstances," a favorite killing device for our more ardent conspiracy theorists. No, you won't find any damning Clinton fingerprints on smoking revolvers, or any of Bill's famous DNA swabbed off of the clothing of victims, other than the stained blue dress of a former White House intern, that is. The Clintons murder by natural causes like pneumonia and heart attacks, and also use random events like armed robberies, plane and automobile crashes, suicides, etc, all skillfully manipulated to look like accidents.

It seems that anyone who has ever died after having even the most casual association with the Clintons - shaking hands with Hilary in public or having their baby kissed by Bill on the campaign trail, winds up on the Clinton hit list. If Bill Clinton was your law professor and you later had the misfortune of dying under "mysterious circumstances," it meant he was having an affair with you, as good old philandering Bill is wont to do, and needed to cover it up.

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Yet even the Clintons' most passionate opponents have been unable to find credible evidence to prove the family's homicidal tendencies. This includes Kenneth Starr, the special prosecutor who was assigned to investigate the suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, and in the process uncovered sexual misconduct in the Monica Lewinsky affair. The death of Foster was investigated three times, and no smoking gun or damning DNA was uncovered to blame it on Bill. The conclusion arrived at by Starr is that Foster simply shot himself.

As for the plethora of suicides associated with the Clintons, is it possible that constant exposure to Hilary's shrill voice is enough to drive associates over the edge? It will be interesting, though somewhat macabre, to see if a presidential victory by Hilary Clinton in 2016 means an increased suicide rate during State of the Union addresses. She has been thoroughly coached to smooth out some of the screeching, but can still hit uncomfortably high decibel levels when excited or pressed by an opponent.

The latest Clinton conspiracy theory du jour is that Hilary murdered John F. Kennedy Jr. by somehow shooting him out of the sky, or perhaps shattering his aircraft navigation equipment with one of her particularly high-pitched wails. She is blamed for this even though JFK's son had not declared for the vacant Senate seat at the time of his death, the one later filled by Hilary, and was reported to be only marginally interested in it.

Don't take my reluctance to denounce the Clintons as murderers as an endorsement. After what Hilary did to cheat and strong-arm Bernie Sanders out of the Democratic Party nomination, and what the destroyed emails and "pay for play" of the shady Clinton Foundation say about her and her hubby's character, I would love to believe the accusations are real. I can't help but think, however, that there's enough dirt on the Clintons to disqualify them from being elected so much as dog-catcher, if America really wanted to. But since America seems anxious to ignore the Clintons' real crimes, what good is making extra stuff up?

The Council on Foreign Relations is a billionaire boy's club for evil conspirators.

The Council on Foreign Relations is a billionaire boy's club for evil conspirators.

Did They Do It?

How Long Shall They Kill Our Prophets?

It is curious how even conservatives like Michael Savage embrace wild conspiracies about Kennedy deaths to attack the Clintons, even though I'm pretty sure that if John F. Kennedy Jr. had survived and been elected Senator from New York (assuming he was going to run), Savage would be attacking him too, and savagely.

After investigating these various Kennedy and Clinton conspiracies, albeit superficially, I have reached my conclusion. Particularly in the case of the latter political dynasty, there is indeed smoke welling up from a not so hidden flame, but the smoke would still be there without evidence of homicidal inclinations. In other words, there is no need to add murder to the Clinton rap sheet in order to convince reasonable voters to stop them from a return visit to the White House.

Conspiracies are a religious phenomenon. They exist on the basis of faith, not facts. In believing conspiracies, people bend the facts to fit their faith, selecting isolated bits of information that fit the pattern, and simply ignoring information that does not. Like religion, conspiracies make us feel better, they soothe troubled souls trying to make sense of a cruel universe.

The murdered Kennedys are America's dead prophets. Like our Christian and Jewish holy men, we enshrine them in a shroud of miracles and mystical qualities that they probably did not have when they were living. The Clintons, on the other hand, are our modern day prophet murdering Pharisees. We condemn them with a zeal that borders on the religious.

Crooks, I say probably, but murderers...?

The slippery corridors of the Pentagon contain some of our more nefarious conspirators.

The slippery corridors of the Pentagon contain some of our more nefarious conspirators.

How Long Shall They Kill Our Prophets?


Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 29, 2016:

Too much to hope for at this juncture Lawrence. Hilary is Teflon, nothing sticks. Her favorite technique, in fact, is to laugh everything off as a conspiracy theory. The outcome seems too close to predict, but I'm afraid it will be either Clinton or Trump, no last minute surprises. Thanks for reading!

Lawrence Hebb from Hamilton, New Zealand on October 29, 2016:


Amusing! So, if the Kennedy's are the ultimate victims with the Bush and Clintons 'Homicidal dynasties' then how the hell did Ted survive? (considering in the Senate he probably held more power than any president!) and how the hell did Reagan get in?

Having said that the latest is that the FBI are taking 'another look' at the email scandal, the Republican party last week were begging (virtually anyway) the Don to step down in favor of Pence, so who knows, maybe it really will be between Sanders and Pence in the end? Or is that too much a conspiracy to hope for?


Dana Tate from LOS ANGELES on October 03, 2016:

@ Shyron- I can't wait to read you updated hub. I haven't been up to date on any scandal's, except for Monica Lewinsky, but I never took that to heart. My opinion was if that was true it was a personal matter and had nothing to do with my feelings on how he ran our country. Personally, my opinion was Bill Clinton was a very good President. I am 100% Democrat, and would never vote Republican. I believe that Hilary will do a good job. Maybe there is a little fear that a woman will come and do what the other Presidents couldn't do, which is, get our country back on track. ( Men please don't kill me, just stating my opinion)

Char Milbrett from Minnesota on October 03, 2016:

I guess I better not post a picture of my breakfast on Facebook this morning. I thought about it. Probably not a good idea.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 03, 2016:

Linda, people like you and I can see through the lies and exaggerations, but some people can't, or don't want to. Some people think everything on Facebook is true. This is the scary thing, and it definitely will lead to big problems if it hasn't already. Thanks for dropping in.

Linda Crampton from British Columbia, Canada on October 02, 2016:

I'm actually finding it hard to read my Facebook feed because of all the conspiracy theories that are being shared. I read the one about John F. Kennedy Jr.'s death just yesterday. I find the situation quite worrying. It's not so much the theories themselves that worry me, but the fact that so many people are bending facts to fit their faith (as you say) and ignoring or demonizing facts that don't support what they want to believe. If this attitude spreads there could be big problems in the future.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

Thanks again Shyron. I don't have a horse in this race, but I dispute the Clinton murder theories in the interest of fairness.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

Thanks John. Conspiracy theories can be fun whether you believe them or not. Redemption Song is one of my faves. Thanks for reading.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on October 02, 2016:

Dana, please as the old saying goes "Do not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see."

I have been following this for way over 30 years, from when Hillary first became a force to be reckoned with politically, and those who opposed her have been digging up dirt to smear her from the time she first became an advocate for the poor, especially children.

And the worst part is when Monica Lewinski was hired to bring Bill Clinton down and folks were jailed for not lying about him. Susan McDougal was one who was jailed because she refused to say that she had an affair with Bill Clinton and claims to this day she did not, but Kenneth Starr tried to force her to say that she did and she refused to be bribed. (It is funny how Ken Starr lost his job as President of Baylor University.) Paula Jones got a physical make-over. Who knows how the others were paid LOL. I have to update my hub "What I Believe - Scandals of Bill Clinton" so that it is evergreen.

Blessings to both you and Mel.

John Hansen from Gondwana Land on October 02, 2016:

What an interesting read, Mel. Love conspiracy theories..and the Redemption Song. Great stuff.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

When you are rich and powerful you have to give up your privacy, Dana, and listen to crackpots call you a murderer. Better just to be rich and keep it a secret.

I hope you are doing well and I really appreciate you dropping in.

Dana Tate from LOS ANGELES on October 02, 2016:

I have never heard of the "Clinton Conspiracies" I must have been living under a rock my whole life. That part of the hub was very enlightening to me, even if they are just rumors. I hate to admit that I wouldn't put anything past anyone that is considered "powerful" sometimes it cost to be the boss.

I always felt bad for the Kennedy's though and used them as my banner for this saying- money and power doesn't always bring joy. That family has been plagued with many tragedies. I used to wish I came from a rich and powerful family, but seeing the plights of most of them makes me appreciate the simple life.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

Thank you Bill for taking a break from the chickens to check out my latest chickensh** here on hub pages. I cluck on about conspiracy theories, but most of them are the product of eggheads with too much time on their hands, who could use a little urban farming to get their lives back into perspective. I hope you have a great Sunday.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

I'm a big fan of JFK, Mills, because I am a big fan of the space program, and I wish we had another man with the vision of Kennedy to get that off the ground again. All I am saying is that, had he lived, JFK wouldn't be the icon he is now, but a loved/hated figure as polarizing as Obama is.

I believe both candidates, Trump and Clinton, are doing their best to sow the seeds of conspiracy. Just yesterday I saw the new Time magazine cover, which insinuates that Vladimir Putin is brainwashing us against Hilary, in favor of his good golf buddy Donald Trump. The more fervent advocates of both parties will proliferate conspiracy theories because they want to believe they are true. I am sure that some of the more juicy ones are hatched right there in campaign headquarters.

Thanks for dropping in with your great comment.

Bill Holland from Olympia, WA on October 02, 2016:

Do conspiracies exist? Of course. Are these two examples or real ones? I doubt it but then, I guess it's possible. Do I give a rat's butt? My main concern today is building a nesting box for a new brooding chicken. I just don't have time for conspiracy theories, but I'll always have time to read your articles. :)

Pat Mills from East Chicago, Indiana on October 02, 2016:

These days, the chief conspiracy theorist, as far as the Clintons are concerned, is Donald Trump. Not only does he bring up issues for which they were exonerated - and repeatedly, he claims Hillary Clinton founded ISIS - and that would have had to have happened in her student days before Bill. I think Mrs. Clinton has some credibility issues, but not nearly as many as her opponent. Certainly, neither of them killed anybody.

As for the Kennedys, I think someone was behind Oswald, and perhaps Sirhan Sirhan. Someone - 0r some group - seems to have not wanted a Kennedy to reach or to remain in the presidency. I don't buy the "magic bullet" theory with JFK. John Sr. and Robert, were trying to be more inclusive of non-whites when that notion remained highly unpopular. I believe they did good, but their lives were cut short before they could do more. They did teach and inspire others to follow what they did, and they at least deserve credit for that. Thanks for your insight on these matters.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

There's a very fine line between TJ and Chula Juana, Eric, and you really can't tell anymore where one starts and the other ends. Heretofore I will do all my writing in Spanglish, because it seems more natural around here.

I would vote for you for King, but not President because you are probably too honest for the rigors of the job.

You think it might dip below 90 in the Spung Valley today? I hope you have a perspiration free Sunday.

Mel Carriere (author) from Snowbound and down in Northern Colorado on October 02, 2016:

That's a very good point Shyron. Some of our more vocal right wing evangelicals don't believe in the real Jesus, but a commercialized facsimile of him. A digitized Disney Jesus, one could say. Mega blessings to you on a Sunday morning.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on October 02, 2016:

Mel, you are one SOB. A man that makes me think this hard is not worthy of who i call buddy.

All that nastiness aside. I really do not believe that a great writer of quality lives so close to TJ. Man plans and God laughs. And psst! I love a good conspiracy. How about I could be your next one in my ascendancy to, not the presidency but the new King.

Shyron E Shenko from Texas on October 01, 2016:

Mel, I am so glad you brought this up. I am surprised the Alt-right has not accused Hillary Rodham Clinton of the Murdering Jesus, or maybe they would if they believed in Him.

A very interesting hub.

Blessings my friend.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on October 01, 2016:

Mel my erstwhile friend. I like a good story. but take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

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