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Survival Endless Cobless Setup Discuz | Plants Vs Zombies

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This is a Totally Cobless Setup Discuz on Survival Endless for Plants Vs Zombies, the hottest RTS game right now all over the world. I have received emails and comments from many countries and regions, such as US, UK, Australia, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia, Peru, Vietnam, India, etc., asking about how and why about this Great game that Popcap Games Presents us. Some great players have posted their setup snapshots to share with us. I'd so appreciate their work and their kindness to share their valuable experiences with us. Since the previous hub Survival Endless 200 Flags and Beyond has been overloaded, I've decided to make this hub to exclusively discuz on Cobless Setups for Survival Endless. Hope you like it!

Cobless Setup Discuz on Survival Endless

Cobless Setup Discuz on Survival Endless

Survival Endless Cobless Setup Discuz

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Cobless Setup 1 By Draco

Cobless Setup 1 By Draco

Cobless Setup 1 By Draco

 This setup can perfectly deal with the Digger Zombies and the Giga Diggers, while we have to use Ice-shrooms in assisting dealing with the Bungee Zombies as soon as they show up.

Cobless Setup 2 By Draco

Cobless Setup 2 By Draco

Cobless Setup 2 By Draco

 This setup can perfectly deal with the Bungee Zombies,while we have to replace a Pumkin on the every left line every two Flags according to what Draco said. What do you think? I think this is the more balanced one.

Yes, we have abundant Ice-shrooms since we have an imitated one to recharge. While we still have to concentrate on Giga-Gargantuars by using the Ice-shrooms frequently. We are freed from the Cob Cannon frequently clicking, so we have enough time dealing with the replacement of Pumpkins. What do you think?

I am thinking trying this setup today. 

My Cobless Test

My Test 26 July

My Test 26 July

My Test 28 July

My Test 28 July

By applying Draco's 2nd cobless setup, so far so good. Few things to add:

  • We don't have to worry about Bungee Zombies
  • Replace the damaged Pumpkins on the very left line.
  • Since we have 6 slots to plant Twin Sunflowers, we have stronger economy.
  • Probably the only threat now is the giga-gargantuar appearing at the very top & Bottom line, just use Coffee Beans to activate the Ice-shrooms. That's all.
  • I have few times to have to use the Cherry Bomb, Squash or the Jalapeno.
  • I'll keep reporting daily.
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the fuming jack hammer! By Kennedy NG

the fuming jack hammer!

the fuming jack hammer!

Actually I've figured out one very similar to this build weeks ago, while Kennedy's better than mine.However, there're certain flaws that could be fatal.


  • Making the 2nd and the 5th lane intact
  • Gloomy-shrooms have been perfectly positioned to get all the Bungee Zombies away.


  • We can't always use Jalapeno to take care of the Jacks. There should be some passive attack against Jack. Once we are in face of chaotic warfare of zombies all over the screen, it's hard for us to distinguish the Jack from the Crowd. Well, that's probably the only big flaw in this build.
  • The position where the Winter Melon stands is weak. We have to replace the Pumpkins frequently when in face of Digger Zombie Crowd. Not a big problem

What do you think of it, guys?

Cobless Setup Ultimate 08/24

Cobless Setup Ultimate Version

Cobless Setup Ultimate Version

 I'm gonna marize your comments and my opinion on this setup I figured out yesterday. So far I've come to 20th.

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Your ideas?

Hung Man on March 16, 2014:

Skill also is very important

Kevin on January 18, 2014:

Can you show us how to do the later setup

Draco on June 12, 2013:

Oh dear!

Ronza on January 16, 2013:

Same problem here on iPad,the outer lines cannot hold the zombonis,but the inner lines stays fine,and 9 slots really piss me off

Gh on September 15, 2012:

I don't have lots of time on games.

Fh on September 15, 2012:

I don't have lots of time on games.

Jamato98 on August 20, 2012:

I play on an Ipad. How do you buy a ladder? I want to try Draco's cobless setup, but I see ladders everywhere! hehe

321yip on July 06, 2012:


Jim Raynor on June 28, 2012:

how did you defeat jack with cobless setup, i use draco setup 2 with many modifications like i replace some plants behind with spikerocks, and i use some ice-shroom. when to use ice-shroom and what is the best way to prevent jack accidents

321yip on June 26, 2012:

Cobless setups are great but without cobs I can't survive more than 40 flags without them. It really bothers me.

Angry girls on June 24, 2012:

There are 18 glooms in dracos setup. I think it is going to add up to 1050 sun. You might die if you lose too much sun. You are veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery BAD AT SURVIVAL ENDLESS DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

asdf on June 17, 2012:

I recently saw kennedy's setup and is it possible that 4 gloom shrooms can destroy the red gargantuars, i haven't tried it yet, and actually i never played with glooms before

TheRetardedAsshole on June 17, 2012:

I am on the iPad version, and they apparently have changed the speed of the zomboni. for one the cobless setup cannot hold. the zombonis, which once could be held back using the cobless, now will crush the outer row fumes, even with fastest possible timing started by the winters, fumes, and glooms. anyway to help? P.S. I only have 9 seeds slots, and the inner row holds fine.

Golf Fanatic on March 15, 2012:

I loved Draco's setup but could not get past level 188. I suspect because I am not that agile with my mouse. I thought that more Ice Shrooms instead of Gloom Shrooms might help. Below is my solution and it works pretty well. Be wary of the Bungee Zombie because not all squares are covered by 2 Gloom Shrooms (this is required to kill the Bungee Zombie). Use the Ice Shroom at the right moment and 1 Gloom Shroom will do the job.

Mr.Superpickles on March 11, 2012:

im at 104 flags with my own setup

pvz player on March 02, 2012:

I took Draco's second Cobless set-up and changed it around a little, adding more melons to the first and last lanes, taking out one Fume-shroom. This is because of the Fume-shrooms limited firing range and placing one behind doesn't make sense to me. A second reason is because those two lanes I just mentioned do not have support from the Gloomy shrooms in the pool, so adding another melon should help. I also increased the number of cattails in the pool, since I realised that the zombies were eliminated outside of the pool and I wanted more Ballon Zombie coverage.

riskybiz_87 on January 24, 2012:

I have found that the Draco Setup 2 works best for me, but with one slight modification. At some point you have way too much sun and nothing but pumpkins, ice shrooms and coffee beans to spend it on. So what I did was I replaced the last two twin sunflowers in the back with golden magnets. Not only do I still get plenty of sun from the other 4 twin sunflowers but now I also get all of the coins/diamonds that the zombies drop when they die. This has been really helpful to me in being able to fund my Zen Garden and other upgrades. Thought?

agmelectric on December 16, 2011:

Wave 354 Cobless son... GT is AGM ELECTRIC

Person on December 11, 2011:

Ah! Sorry, misunderstood your idea. Sounds good! It still remains to be tested, unless you've done so already. It probably will do pretty well.

Person on December 11, 2011:


Good Idea! I suspect it could work.

Although, I just should give a cautionary note. The purpose of the Cattails is to pop Balloon Zombies. Remove them, and you need Blover to take care of them. This takes up a slot and some sun. Just to point out one con of your idea. Brilliant, though! Love it!

PvZ on November 13, 2011:

Well, I haven't been here in a long time. But I'll reply to some of your guys' setups.


It's a good strategy, but I personally don't think that will last long.


That's pretty much what I use now except I replace 1 cattail with a Winter-melon so I have extra attack in the pool lanes.

HDKGloom on November 04, 2011:

First a thank you for all the great info. Never thought I would get so carried away but keep being dragged into that back yard.

I am playing the iPad version. I have noted some difference compared to what apparently happens on the PC version. Specifically the "safe" Jack-In-The-Box (JIB) setup described by Draco just not hold. I quite often have JIBs blow up with this "100 pct safe" setup, so they must have changed speed or durability of the JIB on the iPad. I have tried to double up On Fumes in the inner row (column 6 and 7) but though I am not 100% sure I think I still had a blowup. Worse my outer row defense is now much weaker and I got overrun around flag 50. Using Draco's excellent number 2 setup I was able to go to 70 flags. One of the challenges with the iPad version is having only 9 slots - when you need the full emergency kit for JIBs there is very little wiggle room!

The only change I did to Draco's setup was to move the cattails to the back row. That allowed me to remove one of the Glooms in the back and have 4 Ice Melons on the back column. One gloom and the cattails killed all diggers without problem, and there was no maintenance needed on the pumpkins. The extra spot can of course be used for Ice Melon and/or ice shroom etc.

Getting the cattails in the back obviously removed some DPS in the front, but I suspect - especially with hordes of Gigas - that the negative impact is minimal. Thoughts?

Arecaceae on October 07, 2011:

This is my cobless setup, still is in test phase.

Zero on October 01, 2011:

my cobless setup

what do you guys think?

Achrdili on September 21, 2011:

I want to comment cobless setup by draco, instead of 6 twin sunflowers I left only 2 and other 4 I replaced with cob corns. also instead of 2 winter melons in first row I use coin magnets. 40 flags without problem for now I ll work on it more tomorrow.

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Draco on September 02, 2011:

@PvZ Player

Could you link a screenshot? You can use the PrtSc, open up Paint, Ctrl-V, save as JPG and host on Imgur for free.

PvZplayer123 on August 19, 2011:

I just made a build that is cobless and requires no instants. Just set it up and sit back a watch. I am currently on flag 502.

I will quickly explain it:

typical gloom shroom + pumpkin in pool filling pool all the way to the end.. except there is 2 cattails..

spike rocks in row 2 and 5 near the begining and a few umbrella leaf near the end and 1 gloomshroom at the end for diggers.. rest is unfilled

rows 1 -6.. 2 spike rock in front followed by torchwood and the the rest of rows are filled with gatling peas

Draco on May 08, 2011:

You do a setup similar to the link in my Youtube description:

To just get started, you bring the usual Sunflower, Imitater, Garlic, Cattail, Lily, Fume, Gloom, Bean, Pumpkin, and Potato Mine. Then you fill up the map with Sunflowers, use Mine for the first 3-4 Zombies, then build a Cattail. Then you start making Glooms.

I would Pumpkin your stuff before you unPumpkin them.

We Game on May 06, 2011:

Thanks for the sharing of this :D

kitbala on May 05, 2011:

to draco`s harmless set up.. how to do this build?

kitbala on May 05, 2011:

to draco`s harmless set up.. how to do this build?

BOB on April 19, 2011:

i came up with that strategy but then quickly abandoned it as i failed to perfect it as gangatuars killed me :(

Sarea on April 17, 2011:

I want to know how the setups get started and how you survived the first 20 or so flags. In other words, how do you build up all those expensive gloom shrooms? Did you start with cheap offense like corn pults (the ones that throw the butter,) or what?

Rudi on April 04, 2011:

Thanks! :D

@Rudi on April 03, 2011:

The flowers are a cosmetic thing you unlock from the Tree of Wisdom. They don't help at all.

Rudi on April 03, 2011:

how can the flowers help me? I can see some of them on the pictures at the end of the grass lines. how can i use them?

pls answer. sorry, my gramar is not good :/ i am from Hungary

Draco on March 31, 2011:

Summary of "Harmless" build:

Why make it naked? I wanted to challenge myself and do something new. Removing Pumpkins adds vulnerability, but unlocks certain other strengths. For example, Dolphins will nibble on a Pumpkined Gloom in the 4th column, while it will never reach an unPumpkined one. You get Dolphin immunity from adding that space and keeping the next tile set naked. At the same time though, you are now vulnerable to ambush zombies at the end of a wave. Luckily, you can time the Freeze Shroom to activate right after the "Incoming Huge Wave" message disappears, and right before they pop out. If you do it correctly, they never surface. This is also required for Rubber Ducky zombies at the beginning of every checkpoint, because sometimes they jump in the water before the Glooms start up.

Why the ladders in the back? Those ladder Pumpkins make the back three columns immune to Imps that are thrown over. A single Gloom can take out all the Imps and can take out Diggers before they can reach.

Why so many Winter-Pults? There are 4 in the pool because Bucketheads are hearty enough to sneak into the pool sometimes, so you need that extra DPS/snare to make sure they never can. This also makes the inner row snare more stable and less likely to leak unsnared zombies. The inner row has 2 to stabilize snare too. 1 let's too many through, while 3 is overkill, so 2 is a happy medium. I like to add that Imps rarely block the Pult shots anymore because they quickly walk past the Winter-Pults due to the ladders. This streamlines the process even more.

There are some limitations to ladders, so I don't bring Jalapenos. Any consumable used on the ladders will destroy them (except Freeze/Squash). So I bring Doom Shroom to replace Jalapeno and Puff Shroom to replace Pumpkin. The consumable rotation is similar to my old cobless build where it's a Squash/Cherry for outer, and a Freeze for inner. Because the first inner row Gloom is also unPumpkined, the Gigas have to walk even farther before they can attack. This makes it even more difficult to lose an inner row Gloom, ironically.

Jack explosions are still dangerous, because they add an extra danger (if one side is compromised, Dolphins/Pool Zombies may get to nibble on things), but I have a failsafe built in. Normally, Puffs, Cherries, and Squashes will handle all the Gigas, so you save Doom Shrooms on the pool slot for emergencies. You can also stockpile Freeze Shrooms in the back if there are no Diggers. Since this build has less Glooms, replacement is cheaper. Since it doesn't require constant Pumpkining, 4 Twin Sunflowers is more than enough to sustain yourself. I haven't had trouble for 180 flags and I've sustained all kinds of Jack accidents. Enjoy.

Draco on March 31, 2011:


Hypno Shrooms would be a decent addition to fight Football Zombies, but when Gigas and Jacks are out, there is no spare card. I usually find that if I can spare a card, Puff Shrooms are far more useful in a variety of situations and have a much lower cooldown. I admit I haven't experimented with the novel idea, though. Thanks for the input.


Regarding the additional Glooms instead of Umbrella/Winter-Pult, the biggest vulnerability of the build at that point was susceptibility to Jack explosions. Yes, Glooms would be cheaper, but surviving was a much, much bigger concern than saving sun. The build is very good at bouncing back and I never lost because I ran out of sun, it was always due to dying. Also, additional, umbrella plants are superfluous, because this build is Bungee immune.

Bob on February 22, 2011:

A question on Dracos setup two. In lanes 2 and 5, colomn 4 from the house it seems better to use umbrella leaf instead of gloom-shroom. The area where imps land is already covered by 2 glooms, and that gloom appears there just so bungees die, in which case why not replace it with an umbrella? This would mean 2 less glooms so 100 less replacement cost for a jack accident.

aqualegend from Jacksonville,Florida on December 10, 2010:

Can anyone tell me how to get a set-up on here i have a successful set-up,it lasted me 239 waves before got owned by giga=gargantuars and TONS AND TONS AND TONS AND TONS of football zombies just about kicked my ass......

pvz on December 06, 2010:

I honestly think cobless are dangerous coz if badly timed jacks, add some gigas,throw in diggers, normal gargantuars =gruesome zombie death

pvz714 on November 27, 2010:

In my last comment, where I said hypno I meant squash

pvz714 on November 27, 2010:

Actually, that strategy I just gave is bad

By the way, on Draco's cobless setup 2, are the gloom-shrooms in column 1 rows 1 and 6 neccesary? One gloom in column 2 seems to do just fine, and more winter melons always helps, particularly on the rows away from the pool. Also, could one put a hypno-shroom in column 7 rows 1 and 6? It seems like the only zombies that reach it are zombonis and footballs, and with strategic placing it never hurts to have football helpers.

To kisame: Jacks explode when there is a plant on two sides of them (left and forward for example). If you put a puff-shroom on a lane by the pool, a jack reaching it would explode because it would have a puff in front and a gloom to its left

pvz714 on November 26, 2010:

column 1 is winter melon, column 2 is gloom in rows 1 and 6, umbrella in 2 and 5 and twin sun in pool, column 3 has winter melon on land and twin sun in pool, columns 456 have winter melon on land and cattail in pool, 7th row has gloom-shroom, 8th and 9th have spikerock on land and gloomshoom in pool. Umbrella leafs replace what I just described in column 5 rows 2 and 5.