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Man of Steel


Origin and History of Superman

Man of Steel

Director: Zack Snyder

Writers: David S. Goyer, Christopher Nolan, Jerry Siegel, Joe Shuster

Cast: Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Michael Shannon, Diane Lane, Kevin Costner, Laurence Fishburne, Russell Crowe, Antje Traue, Harry Lennix, Richard Schiff, Christopher Meloni, Ayelet Zurer, Christina Wren, Jadin Gould, Joseph Cranford, Michael Kelly

Synopsis: A young itinerant worker is forced to confront his secret extraterrestrial heritage when Earth is invaded by members of his race.

MPAA Rating: Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of sci-fi violence, action and destruction, and for some language

Origins of General Zod

Man of Steel Parody Sketch

Disclaimer: This parody sketch is entirely fictitious. Any and all similarities and/or references to any actual events and person is purely coincidental.

Narration: Steven is currently on vacation, as he visits the empire state buidling; wearing his black two piece suit, a fedora hat, and glasses. While touring the top of the building, he comes across a newspaper article that reports about a bank being robbed.

Steven: This looks like a job for Superman.

Narration: Steven undoes his dress shirt, and opens it up a bit to reveal a blue shirt underneath with a superman logo on the front. Then he takes off the rest of his clothing, along with his glasses, to reveal a full on superman costume underneath his regular clothes. Steven gets a running start, and jumps off the empire state building to fly off to the crime scene.

Only one problem....steven forgot he isn't really superman, so he falls all the way down to the ground; crashing into a hood of a car. A homeless man walks by and says gruntingly.

Homeless man: Who do you think you are? Superman or something?

Steven: This...looks like a job....for...a doctor......

The End

Superman Tribute

A Superman for a new generation

Upon hearing the news that there would be a darker toned Superman movie, I recall telling my brother once, in casual conversation, that I firmly believe it could work, as long as they had Superman remain the shining beacon of hope humanity looks up to in their hour of need. Looks like someone was listening to me, when I said that, as that's exactly what we got in "Man of Steel." Take in mind, this isn't your father's Superman, nor is this even your grandfather's version. No, this film draws it's inspiration from the modern day versions of the character.

Unlike Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns", this one wisely chooses to ignore the previous films that came before it, and treats it like a completely fresh adaptation of the character. Unfortunately, it's because Goyer's script takes on such an approach that it's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way; particularly film critics in general. Before I get into my thoughts on the film, I would like to address a few things first.

For starters, I just want to say that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and just because a person dislikes a film it doesn't mean they're stupid or anything. It just means they have a different opinion. Same thing goes for if a person likes a movie that you may end up hating.

Therefore, I often try to respect any and all critics' opinions on movies. However, it does seem like most of the negative reviews that I've read tend to portray the author having preconceived expectations of the type of Superman film they want to see; versus judging the film right in front of them for what it is. But, that's just absurd considering that comparing "Man of Steel" to any of the previous Superman movies is like comparing Tim Burton's "Batman" to Nolan's "Batman Begins." Granted, they're both about the same character, but both films also have different approaches and styles as well; hence it's not really a fair comparison. That's why I'm going to simply say this. If you're on these fans that has these preconceived expectations on what you think Superman should be like, then odds are you probably won't like "Man of Steel."

However, there's an old saying my father once told me about films that's true when you stop to think about it. "Son, never condemn a movie because it's not what you want it to be, but instead...just judge it for what it is." Therefore, I would kindly ask my readers this. If you see the "Man of Steel", then please go into it with an open mind. Erase all memory of what you remember from all the previous "Superman" adaptations, and act like they never existed. Because, that's exactly how Snyder and Goyer approach this movie, and it works rather well.

Some people will argue that the film took a lot of liberties with the character, but so did "Superman: the Movie" upon its theatrical release. However, the key thing people have to remember is this isn't based on the golden or silver age of Superman. No, it's based more on the modern version of Superman; while also emphasizing the science fiction elements of the character.

As for some of the critics that have complained this film is too dark, I beg to differ. It's darker than the previous "Superman" movies of the past, as there's no disputing that. After all, the world they create around Superman is a bit more colder. The stakes are higher, and even the villains are given more pathos to work with in this film. Unlike the previous movies, things aren't spelled out in black and white. Meaning, that even a villain like Zod can come off as genuinely sympathetic; even though he's trying to kill off humanity throughout most of the story.

But in the end, this is still a Superman movie no matter how you look at this. Although some critics will have readers believing that this new Superman movie is dark and brooding in ilk of the "Dark Knight" trilogy. However, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Granted, it's the darkest Superman movie that we've ever had, but Superman is never dark himself. Although Clark Kent doesn't become Superman until one third of the movie is past, the film manages to become a bit upbeat through the darkness whenever Superman shows up.

Henry Cavill may not be Christopher Reeves, but he doesn't have to be. Unlike Reeves' portrayal, this Superman is more of a troubled soul that ponders the question, "Am I a Kryptonian? Or am I really a Kent?" But, it's never to the point to where it drags down the film, as the movie is very well paced.

Henry definitely does justice to the iconic character, as you can definitely sense that he understands the character perfectly through is performance. Russell Crowe is both endearing and stoic in his portrayal of Jor-El. Although I hesitate to say whether or not, I think his role outshines even the Marlon Brando version of the character, but he does a great job with it nonetheless.

Diane Lane plays a great Martha Kent that's both lovable, yet compassionate. Not to mention tough, as she even tells off Zod in this flick. As for Kevin Costner, he kills it as Jonathan Kent. Like "Superman: The Movie", Jonathan dies in "Man of Steel" early on in Clark's life. However, the circumstances of how he dies changes though, but it's still equally endearing to watch.

I remember being touched when I saw Pa Kent die in the original Superman movie, as a child watching it. The scene in the 1978 film was potent in defining the fear that Superman had back then. His fear of knowing that even in spite of all his powers, he can't always save everyone. A tragic reality that we all learn to endure over time, but it's still a powerful message nonetheless.

The tragic death of Jonathan Kent, in "Man of Steel", touched me as well, but for a different reason. Throughout the film, it's revealed that Pa Kent encouraged Clark to hide his powers at all cost. In fact, there's even a scene where he scolds Clark for blowing his cover, in order to save a bunch of kids from drowning in a schoolbus. Needless to say, Clark didn't take it too well, but he respected his father's wishes. Eventually, there was a scene where Clark had the opportunity to save his father from a tornado, but Pa Kent told him not to because if he did save him, then it would blow his cover; hence putting his son in jeopardy, as there were several people there watching.

Needless to say, Pa Kent died because he didn't want his son being exposed to a world that may not understand, or embrace him, simply because he's different. And like the old saying goes, people always fear what they don't understand. It's touching to see how Pa Kent is willing to sacrifice his own life for his son.

Throughout first hour of the film, Superman's origin is explained via flashback, as he works various odd jobs to get by. The flashbacks are arguably some of the best scenes in the film, and the depiction of Krypton are nothing short of breathtaking.

Although some people may not like the new version of Krypton because it deviates from Donner's interpretation, but it's surprisingly better than Donner's Krypton in many ways. Unlike the previous films, we get a more in depth look into Krypton's culture. Finding out that even though they're a more advanced civilization, it doesn't mean they're beyond making mistakes as well. This only makes the characters a bit more relatable in a lot of ways.

The cinematography works perfectly in this film, as it immerses you right into the action; which really makes it a treat to watch in IMAX 3-D if you can afford it. As for the action scenes, they're very well choreographed, and epic to watch. In fact, I'd dare even say this film features better action sequences than anything we might've seen in Nolan's Batman trilogy.

Although some people have complained about the collateral damage that's caused during the fight with Superman and Zod's army. Many saying how the real Superman would lead them away to an unpopulated area. Fair assessment, and I'd agree if that were possible. However, the last time I checked, Zod isn't a stupid villain. He knows Superman's weakness to want to protect humanity, as they even mention this in the film. Therefore, even if Superman wanted to lead them away from Metropolis, then chances are that Zod wouldn't leave. If anything, he'd just kill almost any human he could find. We also have to take in mind that Zod is a general, as it's emphasized in this movie. Therefore, it stands to reason that he wouldn't want to follow Superman into an unpopulated area because it wouldn't be a strategical advantage for him. Plus, I doubt Superman could drag him to an unpopulated area either considering they're both fairly evenly matched.

As for Amy Adams, I thought she played an excellent Lois Lane. Not only nailing the character down, but her chemistry with Henry Cavill is amazing to watch on screen. Although the romance between Lois and Superman isn't quite as memorable as it's portrayed in the Donner movies, but this new interpretation has it's own unique charm to it.

Overall, the best advice I can give to my readers is this. Don't listen to the critics, or anyone else. Just go see the film, and judge for yourself if you think "Man of Steel" is a good film or not. I personally loved every minute of it. Granted, the first two Superman movies starring Christopher Reeves will always hold a special place in my heart, but I'd be lying if I said "Man of Steel" wasn't clearly the superior film in many ways.

It not only had a deep character driven story arc that made it's audience feel emotionally invested into it's main protagonist, but it even managed to make Zod a sympathetic character as well. Michael Shannon is no Terrance Stamp, but he manages to do something with the character that Stamp couldn't do; which is to make Zod a deeply complex character who's not only intimidating, but also relatable in a lot of ways.

Bravo to Shannon for pulling it off. Bravo to Zack Snyder and David Goyer for constructing such an epic film to begin with. Granted, the trailers may emphasize Christopher Nolan's name a lot, but make no mistake. This is definitely a Zack Snyder film all the way, as he knows how to create a visually impressive film. Speaking of special effects, "Man of Steel" features arguably some of the best ones that I've seen in a superhero movie.

As for Hans Zimmers' scoring, it's nowhere near as memorable as John Williams' work for the previous Superman movies. However, it still manages to match the tone of each scene nicely. Granted, the scoring can seem a bit redundant at times, but it's never to the point that it ruins the movie.

Although I know I'll probably get a lot of heat from my readers for saying this, but "Man of Steel" is arguably the best adaptation of Superman that I've ever seen. Yes, even over Donner's Superman films of the past. Granted, I know some fans will say that's blasphemy for me to say that, but would you rather I lied to you? Or do you want me to be honest? In the end, I'd have to give "Man of Steel" a perfect four out of four.

However, don't take my word for it. Go see the film, and decide for yourself.

Man of Steel- 13 Minutes of Behind the Scenes Featurette

Man of Steel Parody (Warning: Contains Adult Language. Parental Discretion is Advised)

A More In Depth Look At the history of Superman in both literary works and in Pop Culture

The Science of Superman


Steven Daniels (author) on December 20, 2013:

lol. Maybe they saw some of your work on youtube possibly. Well congratulations on getting the deal with that band, as I hope it goes well. I'm sorry to hear that you're going through some personal issues, or that you were, but I do hope things work out for ya. Just remember no matter how bad things get that it can always get worse. that's what always helps me at least.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on December 08, 2013:

It was alright. Very low key, been having some family drama as of late. As well as personal drama...but don't we all. Day after thanksgiving though I got hired to film music videos for a local band that just signed a record deal. I was just stunned that they knew about me lol

Steven Daniels (author) on December 07, 2013:

Eh it was okay. Apart from being sick as a dog. I'll be sure to check out the link tomorrow before heading to work. Thanks for the link. So how was your thanksgiving holiday?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on November 28, 2013:

pretty good, you have a good thanksgiving?


that is the trailer too

Steven Daniels (author) on November 28, 2013:

that's cool. I'll be sure to check it out then. thanks for giving me a heads up. anyways, im doing okay. how about yourself?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on November 28, 2013:

How you doing Steve, in case you are wondering, the trailer is out for the new series. I might make an article for it, but I don't know exactly what I'd say about it lol

Steven Daniels (author) on November 27, 2013:

Thanks. I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in that regard. Anyways, thanks for stopping by again clopez, and sharing some of your thoughts with us. :)

Chris Lopez from Laurel, MD on November 25, 2013:

This is a fantastic and spot on review of Man of Steel. Thanks again for checking out my hub as well. As we discussed before, I love everything about this movie just like you. The music, the story, the actors, the action, everything. I once again stand with you in agreement that this film surpasses the legendary Donner original and it's sequel.

Steven Daniels (author) on October 26, 2013:

lol that's cool. well i can't wait to check it out then.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on October 25, 2013:

update in case you are interested Steve...we are releasing a trailer soon for the new series. the idea has been changed and it is more original now then before. the story took 3-4 months to get lol

Steven Daniels (author) on October 24, 2013:




your welcome, and thanks for stopping by

schoolgirlforreal on September 02, 2013:

YW. Happy to be.


Paradise7 from Upstate New York on September 02, 2013:

Definitely worth a look. Thanks, Steven.

Steven Daniels (author) on September 02, 2013:

lol that's cool. well at least now you got a funny story to tell people.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on September 01, 2013:

no. its more funny now though.

Steven Daniels (author) on September 01, 2013:

wow, im sorry to hear that. hopefully they weren't like the deadly kind like black widows or anything like that. you didn't get bit did you?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 21, 2013:

recent one i saw was Only God Forgives. I will probably see Drinking Buddies next week. I can't think of too many indie films though right now. Im just blanking. it has been a long day. probably my best experience though, seeing an advanced screening of a movie (End of Watch) in DC and after the movie i met Michael Pena and Anna Kendrick. Generally i have to come to appreciate films that are not exactly studio films more. Like Place Beyond the Pines, Shame of recent memory.

As for filming by the way, i probably had my scariest experience yet behind the camera. I was filming two people walking towards the camera as I walked backwards. I ended up walking into a nest of baby spiders.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 21, 2013:

Oh that's cool. what indie films have you seen out of curiosity?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 18, 2013:

It is sad really. There is less of an audience for Wonder Woman, and then the average fan that does want to see Wonder Woman just wants her to be sexy. When that isn't that character. However, the same things can be said for Captain America/Thor and Iron Man before Marvel set up their plans. They were relatively unknown characters to the average movie-goer and now they are incredibly popular. To me it is a bit sad that Iron Man is the most popular, solely because of how much of a narcissist he is. That sells really well with audiences. Which I will admit, bothers me a little bit. Although I do understand that he translates better on screen and generally makes for a compelling character.

As for numbers, yes that is beyond saddening. You could have the best piece of art, but hey if people are not viewing it...then who cares. In a way, I have begun to enjoy indie films a bit more then bigger blockbuster films. Blockbuster films tend to have the same beats in their stories and are formulaic.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 18, 2013:

Well as I pointed out in one of rabbit's hubs a while back, the problem is that if you look at all of wb's past dc films, the reality is that anything they ever produced outside of superman and batman has always bombed at the box office. Think about it. There was green lantern, steel, catwoman, and supergirl. All of them bombed.

Granted, you can make the argument saying that they sucked, and that's why they bombed. However, you don't know the film sucks until you see the movie, so i can understand why the head execs at wb would be hesitant to make too many dc superhero movies given their past track record of trying to make films on some of their other heroes outside of batman and superman.

as for wonder woman, i would love to see a movie about her someday, as she definitely deserves one. Heck, i almost feel sorry for her because you have all these lesser known superheroes making their big screen debuts in the inevitable future like Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and etc; while Wonder Woman who's an a list superhero still hasn't gotten her own movie.

Like you, i think she has a lot of potential as a character to carry her own movie, but at the same time, i can understand wb's hesitation about it. Granted, I'm not a comic book expert, but i have heard that supposedly wonder woman's comic book sales aren't exactly that great these days, and I do know that the direct to dvd animated film about her didn't do that well. In fact, it did so poorly that wb animation announced they weren't going to do anymore animated solo superhero films on any of their female characters again.

Therefore, i can understand a studio exec's logic of "Well, the animated movie didn't do that hot, so why in god's name am I going to risk millions of dollars on this character?" Granted, I'm with you though as I'd rather see wb show some guts and start to make more movies about their dc properties, but at the same time, i can understand why they're hesitant.

Hell, you're a young filmmaker, so you would know more than i do that most film studios look at numbers when it comes to these things sadly....

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 18, 2013:

It largely depends on the writers that are in control of it. All i care about is that they do the characters justice, and DO NOT rush anything. I don't know why we have not seen many DC heroes on screen, but I am glad that is changing just I hope it is done right

Steven Daniels (author) on August 17, 2013:

hmm..that's rather interesting. i guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. personally i still think it might be a mistake to have the tv shows and movies share the same continuity, but i've been wrong before. hell if marvel can somehow make it work with shield, then i wouldn't be surprised if cw and wb do the same thing with their tv shows.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 17, 2013:

Arrow is written by a good group of people, Geoff Johns overseas it all too (writer from DC). More importantly, the people that write Arrow, wrote Green Lantern. so they have the rights to all the props from that movie (even though it was terrible). So they used the logo from Ferris Airport. They've talked about how GL will most likely be introduced later in the show's run. This season there will be Black Canary, Red Arrow and obviously Flash.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 17, 2013:

Wait, they introduced things from green lantern's universe on the show? wow, i didn't know that. However, I guess we'll have to wait and see though, as I honestly don't even think wb knows what it wants to do yet. If anything, i think they want to see how this upcoming batman vs superman movie does first before going into justice league.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 17, 2013:

I love the show Arrow personally and considering how they have slowly introduced things from the Batman universe and Green Lantern universe and now Flash...I wouldn't be surprised but again it all screams desperate to me. I would much rather they take their time with everything. I agree, one more Superman film would have been best. Then the World's Finest.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 16, 2013:

Yeah, that's honestly the only worry that i have at the moment. Granted, Batman is a great character, but we've seen his story told on the big screen for the past couple of decades, so we know the character already. they don't need to go into a lot of detail about him, as all they need is like maybe a two or 3 minute explanation, and then done. besides, if they ever want to go into more detail about him, then they can easily do that in his own stand alone film years down the line.

I'm with you that I hope they make this more about superman and his facade clark kent. Plus, im hoping the film goes over his relationship with humanity a bit more, as I think the first one had a strong theme about him figuring out who he was. Now, that he knows who he is, the next logical step is to have him establish himself as humanity's savior.

As for forcing things to get to justice league, I hope they don't rush things either, but I do agree that a film crossover with superman and batman is a good start though because Superman and Batman were always kind of the two biggest leaders on the jla team anyway; thus they'll need to establish their relationship first.. Although personally, I would've prefered to have seen one more stand alone superman film before having this crossover, but i'm just going to think optimistically about this and hope for the best.

Although I've been hearing a lot of rumors lately that ever since it was announced the flash would be introduced on arrow, and inevitably spun off into his own tv series, people have been speculating that arrow and the new flash tv series might be tied into the same movie continuity as MoS. I know a lot of people are speculating this mostly because of Marvel's upcoming Shield series, and how much that'll be tied into the marvel cinematic universe. However, I wouldn't breath too much into that though, as i know there's also rumors that they might not have the tv shows follow the same continuity as the films. Personally, I'm against the idea of having the tv shows on cw continuity being apart of the mos continuity, as I would hate to see a repeat of what happened with Star Trek the Next Generation. I think the main reason why most of their films weren't as well received as the ones featuring the original cast was because they didn't have the daunting obligation of tying in their film continuities with anything.

Whereas Star Trek The Next Generation, they did have to worry about continuity with two other star trek shows during their cinematic run. In a lot of ways, this is why I'm kind of skeptical about the new shield series as well, as i can see that holding back the mcu more than anything. the same thing goes with arrow and flash if their tv show continuities are meshed with the dcu continuity, as i'm just not sure if that'll work. maybe ill be wrong, but this is just what worries me if the first rumor happens to be true.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 16, 2013:

i agree that Freeze could be bad for this film and i hope that they don't take a Batman villain. i still hope that the focus of the film is on that of Superman AND his facade...Clark Kent. I really enjoyed MoS and i just hope that they don't force things to get to JLA

Steven Daniels (author) on August 16, 2013:

Hmm sounds very interesting. I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. As for MoS2, i agree that lex luthor will end up in the movie, but as far as mr. freeze goes, i'd rather see him in a batman solo film myself. he's too complex of a character to tell in one film where he'll be sharing screen time with other characters as you alluded to. that's why i suggested the concept of only introducing lex, brainiac or possibly metallo because they wouldn't be that hard to explain.

They can obviously write in metallo as being a guy that's used for experimentation at lex corp, as lex corp develops weapons for the military, as they even established in the prior film that some of the military doesn't necessarily trust superman. and with some clever writing, metallo could be just some military soldier that volunteers for the program because he sees superman as a threat to mankind. this would be great because after batman and superman team up, they can easily make metallo become the one physical threat for them to fight; while lex is the mental and psychological threat.

brainiac should only have a very very very small role. like maybe two or 3 minutes where they mention that the new ai they use to create metallo is called brainiac. however, at the beginning of a jl film, then they can say that ai goes haywire to become the brainiac you and i know. granted, i doubt it'll play out that way, but this is how i wish it would. lol

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 16, 2013:

we've been planning it now over the course of 3 days. It has become more and more ambitious. It'll be 4 short films introducing a new character while also still incorporating previous characters into each film. Then the 5th one would be the team up. We matched powers/abilities with the personality of each person (i.e. Fast Talker - Super Speed)

As for the villains though for MoS2. It is obviously Lex, but if they don't do brainiac or metallo i could even see a batman villain thrown into the mix. Which has been rumored already as well. I heard a rumor of The Joker and Lex, which i highly doubt due to no studio wanting to touch The Joker yet. I think if they plan to do a batman villain and superman villain a good pair up would be Mr Freeze and Lex. Mr Freeze is a tragic character much in the vein of Harvey Dent and cinematically he would fair pretty well. The other issue with this theory is screen time though

Steven Daniels (author) on August 16, 2013:

Yeah, i think the next film will probably play out as you said, where it'll inevitably lead to them becoming friends and possibly teaming up against a deadly foe like lex luthor most likely. although id love to see them somehow incorporate brainiac and metallo into this next film. brainiac can have a relatively small part as just the new ai that lexcorp uncovers from the abandoned kryptonian tech. that way it'll be set up for the jl movie with brainiac as the main villain. while metallo, he can be used as a new way to introduce kryptonite, while lex manipulates stuff behind the scenes. although i wouldn't be surprised if the villain is just lex luthor but id be cool with that too.

as for your movie, it sounds interesting. it almost sounds like that one avengers animated movie where it shows their grandkids or kids or whatever taking over the team. i forget what it's called, but i can't wait to see your movie then. be sure to let me know when it comes out.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 13, 2013:

Congrats. lol. We are actually all considering doing an original take on our own JLA. Hundreds of years after all the ones that we know and love have died or gone away forever. Original characters, I won't act in it...simply write and direct. Color me overly excited.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 13, 2013:

As for the inevitable fight between Superman and Batman, i think they will continue from where MoS left off and play off of his guilt. (avoiding spoilers as best as I can) That is something i didn't like about MoS where in the penultimate moment, they cut away from it so abruptly. If you make that apart of the first act when he meets Batman, then that can be highly effective for telling the story across not just this film but many more from this point. Batman could be under the allusion that he "bested" Superman. As for Superman, he will also see something in Batman that could go in line with what Jor-El said to him about humanity. He will see a spark in him that makes him think that (Batman) could be the start of something great. Now, I agree, Batman is a hands down better fighter, but there is no chance that he'd be able to go toe to toe with Superman. I also understand the reasoning for making Batman older but story wise i just don't like it. In that case, where was Batman when Metropolis went to hell. (Realistically he probably was just watching and probably planning something to stop the world from being destroyed...but semantics. lol) On this subject my mind goes crazy, thus my points become a little scrabbled as of late lol.

As for a comic book film, i would want to adapt either Aquaman or Wonder Woman. Both I think are fantastic characters that i fear studios just do not understand the beat of those characters. You can say that they are difficult characters to portray on screen, but i highly disagree after seeing the success of Thor and how well his character has been received on screen. Now, a large part of that is casting. Aquaman is an easier fellow to cast (my recommendations have been Liam McIntryre (Spartacus) or Charlie Hunnam (Sons of Anarchy) Wonder Woman is a much tougher character to cast, due to people focusing on the sex appeal. She is a tough woman, and embodies even some of the ideals of Captain America, which again has been received well on screen. So both of these characters can be done well, and I think that their mythos have ton of potential with their otherworldly adventures in Atlantis and Themiscyra respectively. basically, flip a coin and i would gladly make a film on either character. Hell, i have even considered REALLY challenging myself and doing a short film on the Flash. Seeing how I have taught myself how to create special effects, i have given in considerable thought.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 12, 2013:

Well to be fair, it's only a rumor at the moment. To be honest, I could care less either way if Bale comes back or not. If he comes back, I will be upset because it'll kind of ruin the ending to how tdkr ended it's story arc. But at the same time, I would still watch the movie because Bale is a great actor, and from a marketing perspective, it would make a lot of sense.

However, I would prefer a different rebooted batman if I'm to be honest. Nothing against bale who i think played the best one so far, but I do think that his batman wouldn't fit in with the jl universe in terms of tone. Although you prefer a younger actor, I'm starting to think an older guy would be better to be batman if I'm honest because lets face it.

Even at batman's physical prime, there's a snowball's chance in hell he'd ever be able to take on superman in a straight up fist fight. i mean if you think about it all superman would have to do is hit batman really really really hard with his pinky, and then batman goes through a wall and dies. The only reason batman even beats up superman in the comics is because he outsmarts him, and strategizes against him (sometimes using kryptonite).

Therefore, it would make sense for an established seasoned veteran batman to be able to take out superman because he'd be used to fighting crime for years against other supervillains, so he'd be able to take clark kent out. In the man of steel, they even established that superman doesn't really know how to fight well yet, as the only advantage he had on earth against zod and his cronies was the fact that his powers had more time to develop on earth. whereas zod, he didn't even start to get his full powers until around the ending of the film.

therefore, i just think an older batman would work better than a guy that's just starting out as batman because if he's just starting out, then chances are he's not going to be able to take on something like superman. however, if he's battle tested, and a veteran that's seen the war by fighting in the mean streets of gotham city, then i definitely see an older batman taking out superman because for one) they already established superman isn't a great fighter yet. two, batman being the strategist that he is will study all of superman's weaknesses, and exploit them. thirdly, we both know that superman will probably take it easy on batman at first because he wouldn't want to hurt him, which again, batman will totally exploit because he won't hold back unlike clark kent will.

Sure, like you, i was skeptical at first about the possibility of an older batman, but after hearing john campea's thoughts on that on his youtube channel, "AMC Movie Talk", i was like "You know something. That John Campea guy might be onto something!"

as for you making a comic book film, i hope you end up living that dream someday. if you had to pick though, which comic book would you want to adapt though?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 10, 2013:

NO NO NO NO to Bale coming back. Leave that trilogy alone! Honestly, I don't like them looking for a fourty something older man to play the role that says Batman has been Batman for awhile. I think it is best if they take a guy 25-35 for the part who has been Batman, but hasn't reached his prime as of yet. Like a few weeks back i heard they were looking at Tyler Hoechlin, Jensen Ackles and a few others and i feel like Hoechlin at least could be a good Batman. Honestly I feel like they should take another lesser known actor for the role like with Cavill. But i dont think they will due to the fact that this could very much make or break it all for them. Hence why they are looking for veteran actors.

I just want to make a comic book movie before i pass...lol

Steven Daniels (author) on August 10, 2013:

I don't know about Brolin to be honest. i think he's a good actor, but to me, he always seems to play himself into a role. granted, there was his one performance in "W" that was kind of the exception to the rule, but I just can't see him as batman. bruce wayne maybe, but not batman.

Alem Belton from New York on August 10, 2013:

Josh Brolin is rumored for Batman. That's a great idea in my opinion, especially after this upcoming Spike Lee flick where he will be a cold hearted and dark character.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 10, 2013:

lol. I guess that makes sense. Did you predict ultron was going to be the villain for avengers 2 though? If you did, then ill be very impressed. lol. as for batman, i think it'll be interesting to see who they cast as whoever they get will make or break the dc cinematic universe. by the way, did you hear about the latest rumors about the batman vs. superman movie though?

according to rumors, wb is looking for a 40 yr old seasoned battle tested veteran batman to take on superman in the next man of steel film. and i just found out yesterday that supposedly wb recently offered christian bale 50 million dollars to come back to play batman; which has him thinking about coming back. although none of that was confirmed though the last time i checked, so it could be nothing more than a bunch of rumors.

however, it wouldn't surprise me though if we do find out that wb did offer bale that much to come back, as it would kind of makes sense considering how wb wants the new batman vs. superman movie to beat out avengers 2, and tdk trilogy was a very popular franchise, so from a marketing perspective, then it kind of makes sense.

although my main problem with that if it's true is that will audiences accept that though? Granted, i didn't think the tdkr was as good as the previous nolan batman movies, but i thought the ending to that film was a great way to end batman's story arc as a character. plus, i loved how it was kind of open ended to where it allows you as a viewer to interpret the ending however you want. like how some people say that bruce wayne died, while others argue that he managed to survive, and he's living happily ever after with you know who.

or how some people debate where jgl became either the new batman, nightwing, or decided to become robin to take up the mantle as gotham's new protector. i just feel like if they continue from that point in anyway, then it kind of ruins the ending of that movie. having said that though, i can see how bale's batman can come back though if they do choose for the man of steel 2 to be a continuation from the tdkr, as they could say that all that crap with bane was happening while superman was dealing with Zod, as the football game clark was watching before Zod's message to earth looked kind of like the game we saw in the tdkr. just saying.

but again, that would involve ruining the ending though to the tdkr where bruce was finally at peace. i talked to other people about it, and one person suggested the idea of alternate universes where they can say the man of steel takes place on an alternate universe, and that universe's batman looks coincidentally like bale's batman. i told them that might confuse most audiences because most people that see superhero films aren't comic book fans like us.

another person told me that they think the man of steel could take place in between the tdk and the tdkr, as bale's batman is awfully beat up in tdkr. however, my biggest problem with that route is that if they do that, then that kind of creates a huge plot hole in the tdkr because if they do that, then people will be like, "Where the hell was superman and the justice league when bane was taking over gotham?" i mean surely superman would've wanted to help out batman if he saw that crap on the news about bane.

however, i did bring up the possibility of going the superman returns route though by just pretending the tdkr never happened at all. you know how superman returns was an alternate sequel to superman 2, and it completely ignored the continuities of superman 4 and 3? well like i was telling this one guy last night, i think one possibility is they could say that man of steel 2 could play sort of an alternate continuation story for nolan's tdk, and just pretend like all the crap that happened in tdkr never happened. they can easily say that batman has been fighting crime for years after harvey's death.

the person i talked to about this agreed with me too, but i'm curious to see where they'll go with it though. i honestly don't know if it'll work because nolan's batman movies were so grounded in reality that it's hard to imagine superman existing in his world. but then again, i honestly couldn't see thor existing in iron man's world after i saw the first iron man, and look how wrong i was, so i guess we'll have to wait and see.

what do you think about all this though? do you think wb really offered bale 50 million dollars to come back as batman? and if they did, then would you be in favor of that?

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on August 10, 2013:

I have. And i actually predicted it in my Justice League article. To me it just makes sense from a story perspective for the two of them to meet in Man of Steel 2/Batman vs Superman. Especially with the studios wanting this to lead to the Justice League. Most of my friends don't talk to me about comic book movies now. I have predicted successfully the reveal of Thanos at the end of the Avengers and after seeing Man of Steel on opening day I told them Batman will be in MoS2...then after the reveal on Comic Con, i apparently cannot say a word to them about comic book movies now. lol.

Steven Daniels (author) on August 06, 2013:


Thanks Schoolgirl, I'm glad you liked the review. As for it getting hub of the day, I don't recall ever seeing a film review ever get that honor before, but then again, i never bothered to look that up before. To be honest, I doubt this hub ever really had a shot at being hub of the day because if my "Dangers of Facebook" hub wasn't hub of the day, then I doubt this review was ever going to be, but that doesn't mean i wouldn't mind if hubpages did decide to bestow one of my hubs with that honor, as ill gladly take the free publicity and exposure. lol

However, it does warm my heart how supportive you've always been to me, as you truly are a good friend. Thanks for always supporting me, and god bless.


Aw thanks Audrey . Thats really sweet of you to say, as I'm sure you're quite the treasure yourself. :) I'm glad both you and schoolgirl liked the review, but i doubt it ever really had a chance to get hub of the day. It would be nice to get it for one of my hubs, but I doubt it'll ever happen, and I'm okay with that. Besides, as long as i have great fans like you and schoolgirl cheering me on, that's probably worth more than any hub of the day award anyway. :)

By the way, i hope you do enjoy the movie whenever you get a chance to see it if you haven't already.


Your welcome, and thanks for stopping by to check out my review on it. I hope you enjoy the film as much as i did. :)


hmm...i didn't even think about that until you brought it up to be honest, but now that you mention it...i can see how that might disturb people. maybe that's why some people say the film is too violent because it triggers something subconsciously or consciously among the viewers whenever they see it or something.

Anyways, I appreciate you stopping by Nick to check out my review, and I'm doing fine thanks. I hope you are as well. By the way, have you heard about the news about superman fighting batman in the next movie?

Beth37 on July 26, 2013:

I so appreciate this review. I was excited when I saw the trailer then came all the negative reviews and I was very surprised.

Im glad I read your review first cause now I can prepare myself a little better. Looking forward to it! Thanks again.

Nickalooch from Columbia, MD on July 17, 2013:

hey bud, great review. i completely agree with everything you say. i am a huge superman fan and i wasn't in the least bit disappointed in the movie. I think it is horrible that people have had mixed things to say about it, but like you say, people have preconceived notions as to what a Superman movie SHOULD be.

as for the controversy behind the ending, i am surprised there isnt controversy behind how much the destruction looked similar to that of 9/11. I have talked to many people about this and a lot of people agree that when the building collapsed that certain image of it were a bit too close to that. especially one scene in particular which i wont go into because of spoilers.

anyways, i hope you are well bud.

schoolgirlforreal on June 25, 2013:

I agree with Audrey, lol, Awesome job!

Audrey Hunt from Idyllwild Ca. on June 23, 2013:

Steven - I agree with schoolgirlfriend "this should be HOTD! I've yet to read a movie review as complete, interesting, awesome, beautiful and useful as this one. (Yes, I rated up and all of the above.)

I love your father's advice to you "Son, never condemn a movie because it's not what you want it to be, but instead...just judge it for what it is."

What timeless wisdom! I agree completely. I hope to see this film next week and can hardly wait. Superman has been my hero all my life.

When the great composer, John Williams broke the mold and created the Superman theme for the Christoher Reeve's version, that glorious brass section lifted me right out of my seat.

Still, my intention is to follow your advice and that of your fathers and keep an open mind. I'm quite sure, being a musican and composer, I will once again feel the glorious inspiration that musically identifies Superman.

I'm sending this hub to all my friends (and that is quite a list,) and I will pin, tweet, FB, G+ and more.

Thank you for the videos which I watched several times. You have done a masterful job Steven and I'm so grateful to be in your company. What a treasure you are! ~ Audrey

schoolgirlforreal on June 23, 2013:

Hi Steven, I think this should be "hub of the day" I mean have any movie reviews ever been hub of the day? Usually it's ones about food or something, but this is one of my fav movies. :)

I agree with you on everything you said except I do like the Christopher Reeve ones the most- though it's pretty close here....

Nice job with all the details. Very well done I must say

And I love superman....oh did I say that already?