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Sultan of Johor and The Death Sentence

Today, let the kopitiam refresh the reader's memory on Malaysian history. This tale concerns the southern state of Johor and it's all powerful monarch, before his highness ascended the throne.


The Sultan of Johor, then Tengku Mahmood Iskandar, has a very controversial history. First he was stripped as the heir to the throne by his father, Sultan Ismail, in 1961 after assaulting six people. In 1972-73 however, the young monarch faced a much more serious charge. He was charged with manslaughter and sentenced to death by another young prince who is now the Raja of Perak, Hon. Mr. Justice Raja Azlan Shah.

The Sultan of Johor (Tengku Iskandar), was charged with murdering a Chinese man who was said to be a smuggler due to a dispute. When he was caught, Tengku Iskandar pleaded (falsely) that the man he murdered was a Communist agent. The court, presided by Raja Azlan Shah, didn't buy this story and sentenced him to death.

His father, Sultan Ismail, stepped in to save his eldest son from a gruesome fate. Tengku Iskandar was sentenced to six month's jail and ordered to pay a fine of RM6,000. However his father told him in no uncertain terms that he would never ascend the throne of Johor.

And so, Tengku Iskandar's brother Tunku Rahman, became the heir. Now in 1977 Sultan Ismail's wife, Ungku Tun Aminah, died in a car crash. Subsequently he married again to Tengku Nora binti Tengku Panglima Raja Ahmad. Tengku Iskandar seized this opportunity to marry the sister of his father's second wife - Tengku Zanariah binti Tengku Panglima Raja Ahmad.

A palace coup was in the making. Sultan Ismail was very ill in 1981. The heir of the throne Tunku Rahman was away overseas. Suddenly Sultan Ismail passed away peacefully in 1981. What came next however was an even greater shock. Tengku Iskandar emerged from his father's death bed declaring that his father had pardoned him at his last breath and reinstated him as the heir.

What proof did he had? A document pardoning and reinstating himself as the Crown Prince with his father's fingerprint as a royal thumb of approval. The Chief Minister of Johor at that time, Tan Sri Othman Bin Mohd Saat, couldn't believe what had happened. He questioned Tengku Iskandar's fishy document. He had no power however to stop the royal coronation of Tengku Iskandar (neither did his brother who was overseas). Thus Tengku Iskandar ascended the throne of Johor and is now known as Sultan Iskandar.

The Chief Minister of Johor was pushed out of power in 1982 and the rest is history. Check the links to various shenanigans of Sultan Iskandar and his offspring after he ascended the throne (and became the most powerful man in Johor):

  1. Demolish Causeway
  2. Malaysian Royal Arrested Over Wedding Brawl
  3. Douglas Gomez Assault and Private Adam Amok
  4. Son of Royal Beats Policeman's Wife

Those are but a sample of the thuggish behavior of this most powerful royal family. The Douglas Gomez assault and it's consequences in law is covered here.


johorean 2 on June 04, 2012:

Daulat Tuanku.

1) Rakyat Johor terutama orang Melayu dan Orang Asli amat menghormati dan taat setia kepada Sultan Johor.

2) Rakyat Johor sedar dan tahu bahawa Sultan pun manusia biasa juga, kadang buat salah silap, Rakyat Johor tetap berada di bawah payung Tuanku.

3) Soal kekayaan Kesultanan Johor tidak perlu dipertikaikan. Sekalipun kaya raya, Sultan tetap merendah diri dan bertemu rakyat.

4) Orang Islam di Johor amat berbangga dengan usaha Sultan Johor selaku Ketua Agama Islam. Sekolah Agama di Johor adalah sistem pendidikan agama terbaik di Malaysia.

5) Peranan Almarhum Sultan Iskandar (atau Tengku Mahmod) dalam Angkatan Tentera Malaysia semasa menentang pengganas komunis amatlah besar. Tanyalah kepada veteran tentera, siapa yang tidak kenal Tengku Mahmod.

johorean on May 29, 2012:

apart from these few unfortunate mishaps, the sultan is actually very close to the people.

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ILoatheTheSultans on May 28, 2012:

one day, all these sultans will become obsolete to the eyes of the Malaysian people if they don't change especially the Johore royalty.

it is indeed a very true and known facts how the sultan abuse their power, misuse the trust people have on them and ripped the wealth from the country.

They should know that they are not God.

Wan Solehah al-Halbani on April 13, 2012:


Renongkanlah mengenai apa yang dibuat oleh Raja-Raja Melayu terhadap kita, mereka adalah para khianat bangsa dan agama kita :

1. Sultan Pahang menentang Mat Kilau dan Datuk Bahaman tetapi membantu British untuk menjajah Pahang;

2. Sultan Trengganu menentang Haji Abdul Rahman Limbung tetapi membantu British untuk menjajah Trengganu;

3. Sultan Kelantan menentang Tok Janggut tetapi membantu British untuk menjajah Kelantan;

4. Sultan Selangor menentang Raja Mahadi tetapi membantu British untuk menjajah Selangor;

5. Sultan Pahang dan Sultan Kedah mengutuskan angkatan-angkatan perang masing-masing untuk membantu British dan Yap Ah Loy menentang Raja Mahadi di Selangor;

6. Sultan Kedah membantu British untuk menjatuhkan Sultan Kedah yang asal dan sebenar dearipada keturunan Merong Mahawangsa dan kemudian mengangkat Baginda sebagai Sultan Kedah yang baru dan Baginda seterusnya membantu British untuk menjajah Kedah;

7. Sultan Johor dengan bantuan British telah menyisihkan Sultan Ali di Muar, iaitu Sultan Johor yang asal dan sebenar, dan selepas menaiki takhta Johor, Baginda menjemput British untuk menjajah Johor dan sudah sewajarnya selepas itu tiada pemberontakan oleh orang-orang Melayu di Johor;

8. Sultan Perak yang menentang British dibuang negeri dan Datuk Seri Maharaja Lela di bunuh oleh Britisih, kemudian Sultan Perak yang baru yang diangkat oleh British telah membantu British untuk menjajah Perak;

9. Sultan Johor membantu British untuk menangkap Datuk Seri Maharaja Lela pembesar Perak yang memberontak terhadap British dan kemudiannya beliau ( Datuk Seri Maharaja Lela) dibunuh oleh British;

10. Negeri-negeri Melayu di Utara Sermenanjung telah diberikan oleh British kepada Thailand dan dijadikan sebahagian dpd negaranya (negara Thailand) – kaum Melayu dan Raja-Raja Melayu tidak membantu untuk mendapat kembali negeri-negeri ini daripada penjajahan kaum kafir Thai;

11. Raja-Raja Melayu menanda tangani perjanjian Persekutuan Tanah Melayu dengan British untuk memberi kerakyatan, hak politik dan ekonomi kepada kaum pendatang kafir – mereka menjual Melayu kepada kaum kafir, sedangkan orang-orang Melayu hanya berdiam diri sahaja;

12. Raja-Raja Melayu serta para pemimpin kita bersetuju dengan Perlembagaan Malaya dan Malaysia yang kafir yang disediakan oleh British – khususnya mereka bersetuju dengan artikel-artikel 4, 43, 44 dan 161 Perlembagaan Malaysia yang kafir yang menjadikan negara Malaysia kita ini sebagai sebuah negara yang kafir;

13. Pada hari ini Raja-Raja Melayu kita masih lagi aktif memberi tanah dan konsesi balak kepada kaum pendatang yang kafir - si Melayu bodoh kita ini masih lagi menganggap bahawa apa juapun yang dilakukan oleh Raja-Raja Melayu kita, kesemuanya betul dan OK sahaja!

Lihatlah betapa jahat, sombong, butanya sekutu-sekutu Allah yang bergelar Raja-Raja Melayu kita ini. Mereka sewenang-wenang sahaja menjual bumi Melayu, negara Melayu dan bangsa Melayu daripada golongan Islam ini kepada orang-orang kafir daripada dahulu sehinggalah ke hari ini padahal mereka sentiasa mendapat keistimewaan demi keistimewaan baik daripada kerajaan mahupun daripada taukeh-taukeh Cina.

Wan Solehah al-Halbani

Luibok Terua, Temerloh, PAHANG DM

Tun Mamak on November 10, 2011:

News about killing a Caddy ?

any comment please ?

asraf on July 24, 2011:

Malay rulers are cheat and liars! They are also sex maniacs, murderers and gamblers.

They receive money from Chinese businessmen and pretend to be pious rulers.

The late Sultan of Johor is a rapist and murderer. The Sultan of Pahang got money frpm Goh Thiong Lai to open casiino in Genting.

All the rulers are cheats!

sporegirl on July 22, 2010:

Anakorang(5 months ago) you are so right.if tunku abdul rahmin had become sultan as he should have,the johor people would have seen royalty at its best!i don't think tunku rahmin was one to cause grief,throw around the royalty tag and treat people like dirt when he was tunku mahkota.can you imagine how he must of felt when he was shafted by his dad & brother.i do believe that once again he showed just how deserving he was of the title and position of tunku mahkota by acting as he did with dignity,respect and not causing major sh*t to fly.can you imagine if the situation had been reversed? tunku iskanders reaction/wrath would have ensured alot of casualties!my dad was one of tunku rahmins best mates and uncle tunku,tunku sharia,tunku bakar and farrah were always so 'normal'.there was never any 'royal attitude'.i have the best memories of visiting them at the istana and what i called the 'big & little blue palaces',the ranch but especially of uncle tunku at the 'haunted' royal jahor gun was he that always got me my can of fizz and he who play betted me one of his many cars or shot guns over something that was always totally impossible.tunku shariah was always warm,kind and just really sweet.tunku bakar was like every other kid who said his please & thank yous,had to shared his toysand was corrected by his parents if he forgot his manners.if uncle tunku (rahmin) had become sultan,how great a sultan he would have been!!!!! rewritten the history books

wong on April 21, 2010:

Ven. Phra Piya Thammo,

Rumah Pangsa

Blk A-7-9- Jln Padang Tembak,

11400 Pulau Pinang,


Dear Devotees,

Before I commence of my letter-writing toward. All of you, I would like to inform all of you that I am not satisfy with the lawyer, Dato YIP KUM FOOK due to his bad inspirit impressions because he sent an inspector to come to our Buddhist Temple to arrest me without any good reason, moreover, the lawyer, YIP KUM FOOK is not satisfy with Chief monk.

When the Chief monk had me to go to his Temple already and he went away and left me alone to take care until Chief monk come back to the Temple first and he also told me not to leave the Temple if any committees or the chairman want to chase me out, you don’t leave the Temple at all understand? Then I said, alright? To the chief monk! On the second Day, YIP KUM FOOK came to our Temple and talk to me. He tired to make some inquiry from me and he asked me, where I come from? I told him that I came from Penang.

Then, I told to the lawyer (YIP KUM FOOK) that the chief monk came to Penang and fetch me and invited me to accompany him to go to his temple in K.L. I am not aware that YIP KUM FOOK is not in a good terms with the chief monk, chief monk already in this way, YIP KUM FOOK try to create trouble with me unnecessary. That is why, the lawyer want to chase me out of the Temple. Then I asked the lawyer, why you want to chase me out of the temple? Moreover, the Temple is not belonging to you, UNDERSATAND? Then, I asked him, who are you? I don’t know you at all, you have no right to chase me or control me at all, UNDERSTAND? You are just like a layman only. Do you know the regulations that any the chairman or committee cannot control the monks and the Nuns at all, also UNDERSTAND?

I scolded him like that. Then the lawyer (YIP KUM FOOK) is not satisfy with me and he told me that he will called the police to come to the Temple and arrest me. I told him to go ahead and called the police to come and arrest me. I won’t run away, I said to him like that. I have done nothing wrong toward you, why you want to arrest me? He said, he doesn’t like me to stay here. I asked him, why? Again. After this he got very angry with me, then he phoned up to the police and the police came to the Temple and told me to leave the Temple.

I told to the inspector of the again, 1 am sorry, I won’t leave the Temple because the chief monk had instructed me not to leave the Temple without his consent, UNDERSTAND? Then the inspector told me to leave, again. I told him I cannot leave the Temple because the Chief Monk hasn’t come back yet. This time, the inspector got very angry with me and he took out his handcuff and try to threaten me, then I immediately show off my hands for him to lock me up but he scare, then again, the inspector told me leave the Temple again but I still don’t want to leave the Temple.

Then I phoned up to the chief monk again and I told him that the inspector insisted want to arrest me, you better come back to settle the case for me. After this incident, Chief Monk came back to the Temple and take me to go to another temple and stay their. That’s all about this incidents! Last of all, I would like to inform all of you, that no committees or the chairman can control all the monks and Nuns at all also UNDERSTAND? “They are higher than the King,” also! So how can the laymen, the committees and the chairman to control them: – EVEN THE KING ALSO RESPECTED THE MONKS AND NUNS. Why the chairman doesn’t respect the monks and nuns? They will carry the sins later on, UNDERSTAND?

Yours in Dhamma

Ven. Phra Piya Thammo

Penang, Malaysia

Tel: 04-48272710

ANWAR on April 17, 2010:

almarhum Sultan Iskandar is one of the best sultan that modern Johor ever fatihah

AQEEL: on March 19, 2010:

PENGECUT. Tahu takut kutuk sultan?

TDJ on March 19, 2010:

what the hell do you people have against the sultan anyways? bukan dia bunuh BAPAK kau pun. let bygones be bygones. let God deal with him if any of these accusations were true, its really none of your business. He was a good sultan. thousands of johor's rakyat came to his funeral to pay their last respects and praised him for whatever good he did. AL-FATIHAH.

allyrissala on March 02, 2010:

what a pack of lies .its a shame for the site .

such characters should be banned from using the site .

i am an army officer and we must respect history . i have had the honour and luck to have interacted with his majesty sultan iskander. he was a great man a true lover of his people who always kept their comfort and wellbeing above his own and his famalies . thounds of famalies live eat and happly lead their lives thanks to this great man .he gave the locals an identety,he gave peace to the state and he gave fear to anyone who had evil in his eye.

its was very easy for him also to sell his family jewels and property and go and settle in london and live a cushy life like royals all over the world, instead he chose an army carreer for his son and grandson.

he has left behind a legacy which is a role model for all the royalties of the world to follow.

his son too is a great human being so humble and concerned for his countrymen. the grandson went thru one of the toughest training schedule in the indian military academy to learn the basics of life the hard way . i challenge the people who talk negative and judge such a great man to try and follow his actions or the scrafices he has made .

shame to anyone who talks bad or negative about such a fine ruler . he was a true ruler . pl do not try and find god in a human being . look at yoursef in the mirror , we all do mistakes but what's important is who does more good .

regard s


Aqeel on February 11, 2010:

i want to say something bad about him,but i heard people were sent to jailed if they critised this Sultan,even through blogging

iskandar zulkarnain on February 06, 2010:


Dorsett Garrison on February 01, 2010:

Let the dead rest in peace. What is the point of criticizing the dead when he is no more? Should have done that when he was alive.

One has to understand the royalties. That's why they are called " Royals" Celebrities of the nation. But history teaches us otherwise. We tend to look back at history and reflecte it upon ourselves occasionally.

Sure go to hell too on February 01, 2010:

hey i am god,

that sounds like what i did to your mum too!! what a coincidence! what a small world, we should meet for teh tarik and mee goreng one of these days and exchange stories.

IAMGOD on February 01, 2010:

People Union,

Do you forget that your politician friends that stole their land and name it Federation of Malaya before Federation of Malaysia.


I also remember you mum use to let me screw her arse when your daddy is not around.. That was history man. Move on and don't play god if you cannot even say your prayer properly, regardless of your belief.

sure go to hell on January 30, 2010:

he sure will go to hell. I remember this guy was a drunkard often and used to slap people who overtake his car in johor.

The People Union on January 30, 2010:

Malaysia should under go evolution and hang all Royal Family who still hang on to political power without election from people of Malaysia, take France as a good example.

Hamba Allah on January 28, 2010:

What you all see are only the bad thing..when people didn't like someone, of course they will attack his weakness...his bad thing....but if he like someone..he will close his eyes and only see the good thing at that don't we act neutral...list down 20 thing about his bad n 20 thing about his the same thing with yourself....are we really good guy?

Alien on January 28, 2010:

The King is the king in deep of our heart, now and then. No matter dog bark or bite. Dogs always do their job, bark for nothing. Maybe tomorrow got another place to bark for nothing.. again.

Stanley Chew on January 28, 2010:

I love the Sultan of Johor, even though I am a chinese

I don't think racial is the case. We need to be one Malaysia

as we are a family. We must not fight among each other just

because we have a different point of view. Eventhough we

have a different point of view, we are still Malaysian and

we are family.

ISKANDAR on January 28, 2010:


Kamal of Kuantan on January 27, 2010:

@ Desmond

My fellow Mr.Desmond,

Well said! Totally agree with ur statement and view.

Its almost a week the late HRH Sultan Iskandar passed away, but believe his legacy will goes on. The Memory between him and the people will remain kept in the heart. The official act of him will documented as history of the country and nation.

Seikhlas Takziah buat;

DYMM Sultanah Zanariah,

DYMM Sultan Ibrahim ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar,

YMM Raja Zarith Sofia,

YAM Raja Muda Johor dan

Kerabat DiRaja Johor serta

Rakyat Jelata Negeri Johor Darul Takzim

Semoga Roh baginda dicucuri rahmat dan diampunkan segala dosanya.


Soc on January 27, 2010:

pardon me on January 27, 2010:

Greeting bro naidu,

May i ask you from where did you get the statement 'sins commited by a brother muslim is forgiven & even denied'. In islam sins are sins and to be punished even your own son. It is just the muslim itself who manipulated God's law for their own benefit. As for muslims commented to this post, why the silence on this? Love your God more than anyhting...

Desmond on January 27, 2010:


your thinking that any royalty (in general, be it malay or otherwise) has the right to kill at will is most twisted. if all the royalties behave this way in the modern day, they ought to have their asses dragged into prison. having balls is not a good enough reason to take the lives of an unarmed and defenseless man. if they had balls, they would have let their opponents a chance to defend themselves, one on one, a gun with a gun, a fist with a fist. no body guard intervention, that is balls!

as royalty, you should behave in a proper manner where the general population can respect and see you as a role model. it would be very difficult for the common person to think that his/her king can kill someone and say that it is their right to do so.

i have no problems that the royalties can live a good life, in a way, they deserve it as they used to be kings of the land and it was taken away by means of politics (in Malaysian terms, they were tricked by the British). however, i stand against taking or injuring ones subject.

Lastly, may HRH Sultan Iskandar rest in peace. From the posts above, one can tell that he has his own set of detractors and supporters, but HRH has passed on. Let it be, there is no need to dig up the past. God bless his soul.

unekspekted on January 27, 2010:

their lineage.. is the remarkable lineage that malay sultan ever born.. look at achievements of their childrens and grandchildrens.. and compare to tunku abd. rahman lineage is much worse

yes his grandson pistolwhipp another sultan son.. his father shot dead someone, his grandfather also shotdead 2 people.. but, hell.. that proved that they have a ball..

Anakorang on January 26, 2010:

I think the lineage of Johor royal family is cursed, starting with the late Sultan Johor himself. It's in their genes, they just have show how powerful they are. Take away their bodyguards and their guns... They are nothing! There's something deep inside of them that just wants to kill/hurt/humiliate people. Take his grandson for example, 2 years ago he decided to pistol-whip another member of a royal family. What the F*** is up with that!? If the lineage had changed to Tunku Abdul Rahman instead of Tunku Iskandar when Sultan Ismail passed away, maybe things would be different.

Very Johorean on January 26, 2010:

Thanks to those who used your brain in commenting.

Not only in Islam, but I believe any other religion in this world does not allow its devotees to bad mouth a person who has passed away.

To those who bad mouthted the late Sultan;

As if you are so right in the first brave behind the so big...if you trully are as brave as your word...come forward and say them out loud...I know that I will not hesistate to come forward and smack you in the face...

i am malaysian on January 26, 2010:

jiwa melayu...obviously u r not don't talk rubbish here....

unekspekted on January 26, 2010:

to summ everything.. his accentricity and bravado.. this man has ball.. lots of copper ball compared than other sultan

Royal Johor on January 26, 2010:

To YOU who have been on this page in defence of Almahrum Sultan Iskandar, We would like to thank you. For YOU who have been total ARSEHOLES we have reported YOU to the police to join the others. THANK YOU. DAULAT TUANKU!!!!!!

Ex-expat on January 26, 2010:

Ex-expat on January 26, 2010:

unekspekted on January 26, 2010:

Great King, ancients times developed stories by myth.. the similar great kingly equal, and their royal courts of johor.. developed myth from the facts

can't help to amazed

unekspekted on January 26, 2010:

Randy Barat : then, it better to give to african - orang asli and your original ancestor.. they deserve better don't they??

Randy Barat on January 26, 2010:

Give the land back to orang Asli, the original Bumiputera. We should have an Orang Asli Agong.

kimmy johor on January 26, 2010:

try to immagine if you r the royals family or the sultan and live with all the benefits.....will you be so stupid not to use the escorts, live in castles, eat all the expensive foods, enjoy your life as a ruler of the country....

i bet you would do all the things that almarhum did.....we are all humans... we think almost the same....

as an give way to police, ambulance, fire trucks in an emergency, if there is a chance to follow them from behind any tom dick and harry would take the advantage of not having to crawl with the traffic. am i right?

So, honestly before commenting, put yourself in the same shoes. than decide what to say.

if you have the power, you definitely will use it to the max.

sorry if i'm too outspoken.

AJHussin on January 26, 2010:

i bet u people dare to speak ill of HRH Sultan Iskandar because he is dead. I'm sure there's more public figure that you people despise too..I challenge you evil mouth people to speak ill of them WHILE the're are still alive!!! Come on be realistic..don't just attack the DEAD..try on someone who is STILL ALIVE and Breathing...i bet my last cent NO ONE DARES!!! for fear of being drag to court for malice & malign. May i remind you that the whole world is watching this despicable childish act. STOP IT!!! You'll only do more damage NOT on HRH Sultan Iskandar, but to MALAYSIA and MALAYSIAN..LETS ALL UNITE...and say our prayers in our own lil way..May Allah have mercy & bless his soul..

unekspekted on January 26, 2010:

the real PENDATANG is an outcast, a person that live on sympathy of the native.. - and they and their descendants live because of the mercy of previous olders Sultan

the same descendants of the sultan till now put them in highest respect but later... see this is what they repay

is it true that orang asli is the original native, but, they've FAILED to build a civilisation, failed to prosper these land, and failed to keep all enemy at bay

if any communist try to relate the 'origin' of malay = they better relate it from dominant african race - traced back in africa million years ago.


Anak Singa on January 26, 2010:

Its very depressing reading all these unnecassary nonsensicals. I am very ashame of the exchange of words (vulgarity in particular). Wake up everybody!!! Let the dead rest in peace, let them deal with ALLAH..I urge this comment box to be permanently close. Too much hatred and vengeance..its really not healthy..besides, we were taught not to speak any EVIL of the dead...

My deepest condolences to all Malaysian especially Johoreans..May Allah tempatkan Sultan Iskandar bersama orang2 yg dikasihi & dikesiani...Insya Allah..Al-Fateha...

Kamal of Kuantan on January 26, 2010:

One Malaysia?..YES.. I dig that. Sosial Republic of Malaysia???...DREAM ON!! As long there is a Malays like most of the forumners here and me. This will never happen. Not in our time, might be at our future great granchild.

As long there is a Malay Regiments....The Chief Of Armed Forces, the IGP and the PM position occupied by Melayu, then the throne of HRH's Raja-Raja Melayu stil exist. That the calculation.

What we can do?

Start being One Malaysian la, tolerate among us here and there. Leave in harmony.

Hopefully... in a future if im bounce to somebody in JFK or Newark Airport...and the dialog run like this " Excuse me, are you from Chennai?"..." Sorry broh! I'm MALAYSIAN Indian!"

Point is...

we are Malaysian

let us remain like that.


Kamal of Kuantan on January 26, 2010:

Just to share, .... back several years ago. At the Prince Hotel KL. Wedding function. Im sitting with my fellow Malaysian non malay dude. The Late HRH Sultan Iskandar were the royal guest of honour. Its a Malay wedding. Couple of minutes before the function end, my non malay dude suddenly leave the table and dissapear. Later i found him at the Lobby entrance wating to see the Royal Motorcade. when i ask him why he standing there? This is the comment , " Kamal ah, if we wan to see secret service in action, we need to go to US maa, here oso can see wat". Happen that he like to watch how the police and JMF in action while the Royal Motorcade start to move with all the sirens and watever. Not to mention he like to see The Bentley and the Royce as well (me too!).

Beside being childish, Im still proud that only the HRH's, the Regents, PM and DPM have the police escort in this country. Though sounds silly, but for me its a statement....that this land still have the Royalty....Malay still ruled the country and we are still around for the next century.

Still a rilex note.

Cheers my fellow One Malaysian!!!

Kamal of Kuantan on January 26, 2010:

I'm a normal dude that serve in Military before joining the airline.Lucky enuf to travel most part of the world. Still remember when i met one Danish chick in Copenhagen, not to forget bootylicious Swedish aircrew that i try to nail in crew lounge in transit hotel in DXB, not to mention my bad lines when try to make a move towards 34"D Cup English Lady at Charles De Gaulle. One thing that i realize thru our conversation, all the chicks are proud with their royalty.They still keep updating about wats going on with their royalty, latest gossip and evrything. SO! No harm what if im and the rest of the peoples stil proud of our Malay Royalty.

Its just a relax note


Stupid David Chin on January 26, 2010:

David Chin..

the link u referring has no proof.. dig more and bring with an ISBN book before u pass an info.. do u know the words "Nusantara"?? Study those words before u can say Malays is 100% not bumiputra.. If not because of Malays & Indians, u guys might had been extinct from this country long ago by the hands of Japanese.. So think before wrote, and dig more before made a conclusion.. We should fight country who are taking advantages from us, not fight among ourself..

Chill guys..

Kamal of Kuantan on January 26, 2010:

"David Chin says:

8 hours ago


Though we are diverting from the original objective of this blog i.e. the Johor Sultan, a small lesson is necessary. Anyway its just knowledge. Pendatang's we may be. But remember the Malays too were "pendatang's". Study some history please. The Malays originated from mainland china and were from Yunan.The migrant push down was all recorded. Malays were just one of many Austranesian groups. Also remember that the orang asli here are the REAL bumiputras as they weer around far longer than the Melayu race.Also the Malay languange was based wholly on sanskrit. Parameswara was a Hindu pince from palembang.etc...etc...etc..bla bla bla."

Dear my fellow Mr.David Chin,

I'm totally agreed with you, however i just want to add...since Pu Yi the last Emperor of China from Manchuria then should the Manchuko claims the throne of China? How about the existing Anglo Saxon that populated the Isle of Britain?..Should they and their royalty cant claimed themselves as British?..Discussion never end up,there are so many books,manuscript and links if anybody try to be kindda "academical" here.

Main thing... Once before...This is called Semenanjung Tanah Melayu and not Semenanjung Tanah Maori or Semenanjung Tanah Singhalese neither Semenanjung Tanah Yunan. And there were Raja-Raja Melayu existing until now. That the historical fact.

wonder girls on January 26, 2010:

actually i wonder the sultan dies from wat illness

T.N. on January 26, 2010:

DM on January 26, 2010:

tya on January 25, 2010:

I hoped nobody will come after me for reading this.

David Chin on January 25, 2010:


Though we are diverting from the original objective of this blog i.e. the Johor Sultan, a small lesson is necessary. Anyway its just knowledge. Pendatang's we may be. But remember the Malays too were "pendatang's". Study some history please. The Malays originated from mainland china and were from Yunan.The migrant push down was all recorded. Malays were just one of many Austranesian groups. Also remember that the orang asli here are the REAL bumiputras as they weer around far longer than the Melayu race.Also the Malay languange was based wholly on sanskrit. Parameswara was a Hindu pince from palembang. SO simple. Don't be too BN in your thinking la. See this simple link

whatever on January 25, 2010:

well only 1 thing i can say raja yang adil raja yang disanjung, raja yang hhmmmmm ...... suka membuli rakyat raja yg disanggah, but i respect raja perak - always use their brain before doing anything

EX Royal Mechanic on January 25, 2010:

.. selalu nya orang yang cerita buruk ttg orang lain ni diri nya sendiri bukan nya baik ..

Hang on January 25, 2010:

bersiap sedialah kau wahai penulis blog ini...pikir msk2 mase tulis blog...

kau nak mampooosss? on January 25, 2010:

kau nak mampooosss?

dah pikir panjang?

kau nak mampooosss?

kau nak mampos on January 25, 2010:

kau nak mampos?

kau nak mampo0sss?

johor4ever on January 25, 2010:

i love JOHOR...4 ever & ever..

Almarhum Sultan Iskandar willing to share his goreng pisang with others..

We're just a normal human being..people made mistakes but don't judge or condemn other people if u know NOTHING..!!!


Sultan Yem, pedulikan apa orang kata.. on January 25, 2010:

Almarhum dah mangkat. Takan Tuanku Yem nak ikut jejak menda yang tak baik arwah buat(jika ada) Lagi baik tuanku dan kita semua doakan kesejahteraan rakyat johor dan sedekah fatihah kpd roh arwah. sama2 kita jadi anak soleh. yang sempurna hanya nabi s.a.w kita ikut je la sunah rasul. Mungkin kalu kita jadi raja, lebih 9 kali teruk berlaku... bagus lagi jika kita ikut perintah Allah swt tuhan orang islam.

lady of johore on January 25, 2010:

no body perfect, there is good side and bad side of the sultan.. but being a good citizen is what i want to do.. follow the rules.. if anyone can't follow the rules, don't live in the country that you can't agree with the rules... what? no other country to go.. why? because this is your country. or origin country can't accept you anymore... if you want change the law, go to the right channel.. ask your representative at government to fight for you to change this things... don't keep blaming other parties when you can't follow the rules....

lady of johore on January 25, 2010:

no body perfect, there is good side and bad side of the sultan.. but being a good citizen is what i want to do.. follow the rules.. if anyone can't follow the rules, don't live in the country that you can't agree with the rules... what? no other country to go.. why? because this is your country. or origin country can't accept you anymore... if you want change the law, go to the right channel.. ask your representative at government to fight for you to change this things... don't keep blaming other parties when you can't follow the rules....

openminded on January 25, 2010:

I suppose we should respect the chair though we may dislike the person sitting on it. Obviously the sultan was disliked by many, but he was occupying the chair of the sultan. To me, I just watched his story as an entertainment, dead or alive. As a person, he is a laughing stock who represented Malaysia for quite a while. The politician could have done something.. . enforced the law, by pass them, do away with them etc etc. We all need to move forward instead of living in the cocoon of the past centuries. Improve your economic lots, education, character, freedom etc, Visit some developed countries... you will know that not only the sultans are ... this country's politician have also failed its people with much wastage and extravagance.

openminded on January 25, 2010:

I suppose we should respect the chair though we may dislike the person sitting on it. Obviously the sultan was disliked by many, but he was occupying the chair of the sultan. To me, I just watched his story as an entertainment, dead or alive. As a person, he is a laughing stock who represented Malaysia for quite a while. The politician could have done something.. . enforced the law, by pass them, do away with them etc etc. We all need to move forward instead of living in the cocoon of the past centuries. Improve your economic lots, education, character, freedom etc, Visit some developed countries... you will know that not only the sultans are ... this country's politician have also failed its people with much wastage and extravagance.

The TRUEST JOHOREAN on January 25, 2010:

Please leave the Latter sultan alone . He is dead and will face God .

Bugisbentanjohorean on January 25, 2010:

Dear Randy Barat,

`What manner do you propose for people to criticise the Royal family if they misbehave?' - You tell me. I thought you are the `know everything' type. Unfortunately i guess you BLINDLY swallow whatever fed to you w/o researching. And i thing you don't deserve to be a Malaysian, if you are one for not knowing the culture and tradition of Malaysian society.

`I blame people like you who is blindly loyal in defending them.' - If you read my earlier posts, you should appreciate how I became `blindly loyal' as you said. I had the opportunity to have them on my other side before being loyal, do you? I guess you are the one who is BLINDLY accepting whatever being told to you without gathering the facts.

`And the Gonvenment is to be blamed as well for not putting their foot down on this nonsense.' - You are and infact we are to be blame for allowing such a government to exist. Unless obviously if you have not had the opportunity to fulfill your responsibility in the ballot box. And if that is so, I am wasting my time arguing with immature person.

Dear Kamal,

Spot on! If anyone do not agree with the royalty, there are three options available. Firstly let the status quo remains and suck it. Secondly,change the system if you can and stop whinging. Thirdly bugger off to any country w/o a monarchy.


Kamal of Kuantan on January 25, 2010:

To answer all the question about us 'blindly' defending our royalty it due to that the only thing that we have left...Malay Royalty beside our Malay Regiment. As for me, all the fact or myth bout The late HRH Sultan Iskandar its just a normal act and behaviour of a Sultan or King all over the world past and present. That what make them different from the subject. I've been once been step by the HRH Sultan Iskandar on my foot due to my army boot not shining enough to his level of expectation ( its really shine actually and passed the army par) and i still remember at the same Military ocassion ,when a few 2 and 1 star Army General worried about being passed on the shining of their shoes or boot. This incident will kept as a good and hillarious memory between the soldier and officer that witness them all. May HRH remain in peace. Amin

anak linting write... on January 25, 2010:

Peduli la kat diorang. Yang nak mengata sangat lu kompom dapat dosa. Nasib aku takde power ajaib. klau tak, aku dah hantar menatang korang yang ngata tu ke israel jadi papan target yahudi laknat. almarhum dan famili still the best dpd lee kuan yu n israel. moga s'pore hanyut.. marin sombong. issh geram kat sapa saja yang ngata tuanku yem @ tuanku mail @ rakyat joho.Al-fatihah kpd almarhum tuanku. Ampun tuanku sultan!!!!

Randy Barat on January 25, 2010:

What is this nonsense about - who are we to judge him? Everybody has the right to judge anybody. Throughout our life we judge people, that is how we decide who are our friends and who are not. And how do we judge people? We judge people by their behaviour.

And from His Royal Highness documented behaviour, I would respectfully disagree that he was a great Sultan. Having said that, his son,tengku ibrahim (a.k.a as tengku yem) and his grandson,tengku ismail are not great men either. At least not yet.

And I hope for his sake, God would look kindly on his life. Theres a lot to answer for.

johorean on January 25, 2010:

can please all of these nonsense stop?

can we please let the late sultan rest in peace?

what ever he did before,it's just a history and it's indeed between him and god...

who r we to judge him?only god can judge him..we are only human being...and so does him....

i am a pure johorean...i love my sultan,i love johor very much even now i'm not working at johor...

and yet i'm so proud to be johorean..

our late sultan,as i know was a great sultan...

he himself,his son,tengku ibrahim (a.k.a as tengku yem) and his grandson,tengku ismail,was a great man..

why all of the bad stories come up as soon as he died?

why dun all the stories came before this?

please,let him rest in peace...

Randy Barat on January 25, 2010:

To Bugisbentanjohorean,

So what manner do you propose for people to criticise the Royal family if they misbehave? I actually don't blame the Royalty for misbehaving, I blame people like you who is blindly loyal in defending them. What incentive is it for them to behave if there are no repercussions for their bad behaviour. And the Gonvenment is to be blamed as well for not putting their foot down on this nonsense.

Bugisbentanjohorean on January 25, 2010:

Dear newgen,

I cant agree or disagree with you as we need statistic to support that. While I was in UK some two decades ago, there were issues with the monarch but until today, they are still there. Just ask ourself, who are the ppl that questioned their existence in the first place? A rhetoric question i guess.

Dear Randy Barat,

Its not that we cant be critical towards them but the manner must be right. Just like when we tend to be critical towards our father or elders. Whatever the misdeed they have done, they were tried in the court of law. Whatever the verdict, they cant be blame. Go ask the judiciary or go ask the executive if verdict not being enforced. Better still, ask ourself why we decide to elect the govt that act as it is before or now.

Randy Barat on January 25, 2010:

"he is a hero to Johoreans"

If that is what you believe, then you deserve your Ruler. WE want a Ruler with high morals, but if you are satisfied with mediocrity then you deserve to live under a tyrant.

Obefiend on January 25, 2010:

Sultan Iskandar was awesome when he was alive. no ifs no buts.... he got his flaws but his PROS far outdo his cons.

he is a hero to Johoreans

Randy Barat on January 25, 2010:

How do you expect the royal family to behave in a civilised manner if we can't criticise them openly? Their misbehaviour is attributed to people like 'Johorean Boy', 'Anak Johor' and its ilk who not only tolerates their criminal behaviour but threatens those who criticise them.

The more we mollycoddle the Royalties, the worse their behaviour will become.

Bugisbentanjohorean on January 25, 2010:

bustand Kluang,

Kalau awak dapat nama, pangkat, unit mangkuk hayun tu, elok awak email kat saya di Kalau dapat nombor tentera dia lagi cantik. Orang bodoh boleh kita ajar tapi kalau kurang ajar, ada ubatnya.

newgen on January 25, 2010:

dear newgen(1),

yes, if i don really know my neighbour, then i might not mourn for them. if i do feel pity for my neighbour, i mourn, and that happens when i know them a little.

what i'm trying to point out here in a humble way is that i believe a big part of the nation does not really bother the royal bloods. I remember I did studied about them during our primary schools, but as we grow older, things get to become irrelevant. not sure if all the british love their kings too.

any ideas what the people can do?

Bugisbentanjohorean on January 25, 2010:

Dear newgen,

So much that we try to be an idealist in our daily living, but most of the time while living in a society, we have to be realistic. We live in a democratic society where the voice of the majority supercede. And we agreed to that model once we decided to be a Malaysian. It does not means that the minority will be left out but they just don't get the priority and we have to accept the fact. I have to accept the fact I am the minority while completing my stint here in Aussie.

Then there is this thing called global perception where other country looking how stable and unity is the society in Malaysia. Unstable and disunity? So long Malaysia, I'll invest somewhere else and that is bad for us.

Lets look back into our own family then. Someone passed away, we still do the mourning in accordance to our belief. Not a forced one though but all abid to it even though the deceased at one stage screw our arse. Why? Because we do not one the other relative look bad at us, I guess.

Now we look back at the bigger perspective. Since he is the head of state, he has the privy just like us at our own small government called family. And his obviously greater than us that allows mourning to be enforced. While living in a democratic state, like it or not, just follow the rule of law.

Back to your question of does it makes sense? Yes it makes sense if you are ruling your own country where you are the head of state and government. In this context, obviously it does not makes sense as the majority have spoken for a state mourning. There is no wrong to disagree but when decision are made, just follow.

hhhhmmmm on January 24, 2010:

enuf la.....let the man go in peace, although we know he his true color.

i think we are all pedatang, the asli ppl where here first :P

newgen on January 24, 2010:

say that mourning is a free action - not a requirement

are you dancing and drinking if your neighbours dies?? same thing apply here - not requriement, its your free action = does it make sense?

newgen on January 24, 2010:

dear bugisbentanjohorean,

anyway, i'm have no comment on this royal family, as i did not come across any issues with them, nor i am following closely with what they had contributed to the country.

i just does not feel comfortable with the way things were forced here. u see, mourning should be a free action, now it is a requirement. i'm not implying this to this particular matters only. sometimes, many things that we does not belief were forced. what do u think?

bustand Kluang on January 24, 2010:

saya,berniaga ,ada pelangan seorang tentera berasal dari kedah bertugas di Kem Mahkota,menegur saya buat apa pakai songkok,nak hormat sultan dah mati,mati lah, macam dia tak akan mati pulak.Patut berhenti lah jadi askar. Balik kampungla jangan duk gebang,kalau berani cakap depan la jangan cakap belakang.

JohoreanBoy on January 24, 2010:

I love my Sultan, I love my state, I love my country. I'll do anything in my power to defend em. So to those PENDATANG TAK KENANG BUDI, u better don't play wit fire..

JohoreanBoy on January 24, 2010:

hey Iskandarsuckmykote , why quite? where ur hide ur uncut dick? PENDATANG TAK KENANG BUDI!!!!!!!

unekspekted on January 24, 2010:

i guess.. those are communists minded that has no sense of respect for Malays, even their ruler

Anak Johor on January 24, 2010:

Pada mereka-mereka yang suka-suka bercerita pasal keluarga di raja johor jangan sedap2 cakap aje kalau rasa dah tak suka jangan duduk kat johor dan jangan jadi rakyat johor ni tidak cari makan pun kat johor tapi kuat mengutuk pulak haprak punya orang

newgen on January 24, 2010:

it does not matter whether he is good or bad before this. worse is now, everyone has to wear the black wrist or else get summoned. Some weddings cannot have toasting and entertainment events...

now it is affecting everyone daily life. respect is one thing, but shall it go this far? do we need this enforcement? do we need to waste the police force to summon this irrelevant action?

i hope fellow Malaysian can judge the seriousness of some enforcement or conflicts. many things that happened now in our country just does not make much sense. it's just holding us back so so so much. we have so much potential!!!

dade on January 24, 2010:

well known

Joe on January 24, 2010:

Yes, Brogahills you know what u are talking about. Also remember the current sultan's favourite hanging out place the Holiday Inn with his bunch of gangsters (personal army)acting like hooligans & save any girls that he fancies. M'sian get real.

unekspekted on January 24, 2010:

and i also grew up in johor, and that deceased sultan were lining up next to me while waiting to cut hair at wooden shop near kg. pasir

..he is lining up, and entertaining others with his story..

come on man, this can't be a rude royalty..despite of having strip club or little monte carlo in their backyard

brogahills on January 24, 2010:

as a person who grown up in johor and completed my education in johor at the same time as tengku majid, well, we all know the kind of people he is.

during his time, all of us fear so much while driving along the road at lido beach ... if you happen to block his motorcade, chances are, you will be pull out from your car and gotten a tight slap....

and we all also know the nightspot behind the istana...the only place open by the royalty and approved by the police to provide tarian bogel...

instead of charging the writer, perhaps anyone of you could prove him wrong?

unekspekted on January 24, 2010:


12. he's the first malay sultan that rules over the chinese underground triad = read the formation of ngee heng until it become legitimate body of chinese association

13. he's the 1st malay sultan that funds the building of gudwara, temple and tokong = boths of them still stood at jln segget

14. the 1st malay sultan that donated the gathling machine gun for singapore army

15. the 1st malay sultan that fund - giving full scholarship for study overseas

unekspekted on January 24, 2010:

since its all there.. let me add few more amazing fact about these royal court of johor and their descendants:

1. the 1st ruler who own gigantic palace wt 24 hours electricity in singapore.. event the resident general don't have such emnities

2. the 1st malay ruler were were respected and feared by west - even the hitler were visit him during his stay at french = and the british couldn't do anything

3.the 1st malay ruler respected by east - as they bestowed a highest degree of recognition by the last emperor of china and emperor of japan

4. the 1st malay rulers that dare to sack his british officers

5. the 1st malay ruler that made belajar agama is necessity, without it a huge fine or prison are waiting

6. the 1st malay ruler that funds skolah agama in his state every year for 110 years

7. the 1st malay ruler received state welcome by in US during his tour around the world

8. the 1st malay ruler that donated alots of animal to zoo of london after the nazi bombing

9. the 1st malay ruler that initiated dewan bahasa melayu (dbp now)to upright the use of jawi and bahasa

10.the 1st malay state that has able officers that could speaks mandarin and tamil - and english become necessirily 2nd language

11.the 1st malay king that refused to be the 1st agong - as it not about power

12.the 1st malay king that refused to be the latest agong - due to demised of sultan selangor - again, it is not about power

11.and plenty more - all source available in the web, be clever

and.. not to mention other from the royal court of johore

= all you can find is, amazing facts drew by reality.. not myth

unekspekted on January 24, 2010:


he's the first sultan:

1. that opened the palace garden for public amusement

2. don't take salary whilst he's become an agong

3. that instructed his own army to partol state jungle - to track illegal hunter

4. the 1st sultan delivered khutbah at district mosque, and natinal mosque too

5. the 1st sultan don't like people to sembah him

that's not to mention the glorious past of all sultans of johore, and their descendants

who else, in the royal circle of malaysia shall earn such dignities?

newgen on January 24, 2010:

malaysia does not need any Sultan anymore. a waste of country wealth.

SBennit Esq on January 24, 2010:

Reasonably accurate article about the tyrant.

A fb page has been created for the dead sultan:

I have linked this page on the fb page.

lipanbara on January 24, 2010:

blooger nie lupa yg dia ber"Nasib Baik" duduk kat malaysia

( tak tahu bersyukur langsung)..kalau kat negara lain dah lama kene penjara/hukum bunuh...kalau blooger nie bangsa melayu..aku harap dia nie "SEDAR" ler sikit.....bangga ler tu.....

Penghijrah ke Johor on January 24, 2010:

Kami sayangkan Sultan Iskandar, inilah sahaja yg perlu kami ingat...

Sadness on January 24, 2010:

If only you have the opportunity to know him personally as a Sultan and the man that people make him to be, you could really see the goodness in him the caring person and how great he really is.We all fear of his past but when he talks to you he is such a gentle man with full of humor and laughter.What kind of a man that loves animals that he even have his own little zoo? Whatever wrong he has done in his past he has done more good 100 times for the people of Johor. I am proud to have met him and will miss him dearly. May Allah forgive and protect him. Alfatihah.

Rainy on January 24, 2010:

Iskandarsuckmykote - Wtf is wrong with you? Did the late Sultan harassed you or what? Do you really have to show your big ass frickin ego with said nickname? If your parents really named you that, whew, no wonder you're such an asshole.

Whatever the late Sultan did in his previous life, is between him and God. Who are you to judge? Angels? Piirah mabuk!

I'm not a Johorean, nor a Malay but it pisses me off seeing the attitude of an arrogant Malaysian. I believe RUDE is your middle name.

theLover on January 24, 2010:

pemilik blog nie lupe ke rukun negara?


ke sebenarnye duk merempat kat Malaysia nie..

kepada sesiapa yg mengutuk.. x yah ar menambahkan dosa korg yg dah byk tue.. ape2 baik ngan buruk seseorg tue antara die dgn tuhan..

yg beragama islam plak lupe ajaran ke?

bukan ke kite disuruh berckp perkara yg elok bile seseorg tue dah meninggal.. xkan tue pun lupe kot

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