The DBSK/TVXQ breakup is probably one of the most controversial and heartbreaking disbandment in the young history of Korea entertainment.
While there are a lot of arguments on what really transpired that motivated the three members to leave the group and sue their management company, there is one steadfast truth - JYJ and TVXQ are now living separate lives but pursuing the same career path.
Some people think that JYJ got most of the talent when they left while TVXQ kept the looks. Some think that JYJ is more successful despite the lack of TV appearances while TVXQ has done nothing different since launching as a duo.
Although both are still very much active, the three years of separation give a good indication on who is more successful. Let's determine it in a way that has never been done before, compare their career side by side.
The - an extended record released in Japan, went number 1 on Oricon chart
SM Announced that DBSK will continue on as a duo
Sold 140,000 copies and the DVD sold 116,000 copies
Avex suspended their contract following some disagreement over contract renegotiation
Released The Beginning, an English-language CD under Warner Music Asia , in October
Collaborated with Kanye West for their carrier single, Ayyy Girl
2 weeks before the release of the album, 500,000 copies had been pre-ordered
Pre-sales for the special edition reached 400,000
Note that JYJ did it all with no TV exposure in Korea
Their Rooms "Our Story" , their first EP, was released January 25, 2011 as a musical essay
Keep Your Head Down - first EP as a duo released January 5, 2011
Majority of the sales was counted as a book but they managed to chart on Hanteo
Went #1 on the Gaon Chart two weeks after release
September, released their first Korean studio album, In Heaven
Gaon Chart's half-year sales chart ranked it as the highest selling album of the year with a total of 230,922 copies sold
Over 300,000 pre-orders on the first day
Repackaged album of Keep Your Head Down ranked #9 and sold 55,243 copies
Sold 165,000 copies within 3 days of released
Japanese single Why? (Keep Your Head Down) was released
Reached 220,000 copies sales
Sold 231,000 copies in the first week
reached #1 on the Oricon singles Daily, Weekly, and Monthly charts
Released the Japanese single Superstar which sold over 184,000 copies
Japanese single 'Winter Rose' was released on November 30
Selected as the commercial song for Seven & i Holdings’s “Winter Gift – Tohoshinki (Snow Episode)” with TVXQ themselves as actors, which begun airing on November 8
TVXQ participated in 2011 Winter SMTown – The Warmest Gift album with the song "Sleigh Ride”
Tone - Japanese album, released September 28. Over 300,000 copies by month’s end
#1 on Oricon Daily and Weekly Charts, and #1 on Oricon October Monthly Chart.
TVXQ broke Bon Jovi’s record of selling more than 200,000 copies in its first week
TVXQ surpassed the 250,000 mark, and achieved the Platinum certification in just three days of release.
Junsu released his first Korean full-length solo album, Tarantallegra, in May 2012
Japanese single "STILL" went to No. 1 in Oricon Weekly Chart with 138,664 units sold
26th single to enter the Top 10 ranking, breaking BoA’s record of 25
Released 34th single, "Android" on July 11, sold 98,550 copies on the first day, #1 on Oricon chart l
This the group's 11th Oricon Weekly chart topper, breaking the group's record of 10
Recognized by Japan's Oricon chart as the biggest selling international artist in terms of singles with 3,104,000 sales
Broke the 10 year and 10 month long record held by The Carpenters
Jaejonong launched a solo project, January 17, 2013 - mini album titled I/MINE
Time - 6th Japanese album became the fastest selling studio album with 277,000 copies on 1st month
#1 on Hanteo and Gaon weekly charts in Korea
Catch Me - 6th Korean studio album, topped Oricon for the 12th time with the single, "Catch Me - If You Wanna" with over 137,000 copies
Topped the iTunes overall chart in Japan and iTunes rock charts in nine countries
First foreign artists to top the Oricon Weekly Singles Chart 12 times
Junsu released his 2nd album, Incredible last July
Looking at the figures, it seems the race is tight. With three albums each and if you take into consideration possible sales from the last time the figures were releases, it is possible that the difference is so tight, that it is almost immaterial.
If we count the solo projects, JYJ could have outsold TVXQ BUT we are not counting that. I just put it there for reference but this comparison is about their group.
However, TVXQ released Time and Catch Me which me puts them one album over JYJ. Add to that the records they have broken in Korea and Japan, TVXQ is the clear winner.
Concerts and Big Performances
Four-day Thanksgiving Live in Dome concerts at Osaka Dome and Tokyo Dome in June
August to September 2010, Yunho and Changmin performed as TVXQ in Seoul, Los Angeles and Shanghai as part of the SMTown Live '10 World Tour
Performances at the nationwide a-nation tour throughout AugustThey also went on a worldwide tour to promote The Beginning
First Worldwide Tour as a group with concerts held in Thailand, Taiwan, China, Canada, and the United States
Performed in A-Nation, made its way through five cities, Ehime, Nagoya, Osaka, and Tokyo. During the live concert in Tokyo, TVXQ unexpectedly became the first foreign artist to become A-Nation's "Big Bird," or the ending performer
Charity concert in Tokyo for the victims of Tōhoku Earthquake.
September 2–4, 2011, TVXQ participated in SMTOWN Live In Tokyo
Encore concert performances in South Korea
2011 Hallyu Dream Concert at Gyeongju Citizens’ Stadium
"Unforgettable Live Concert in Japan" on October 15 and October 16 with over 84,000 in attendance
“New York-Korea Festival", a specially planned program by KBS Global
Additional World Tour date in Barcelona, Spain and in Berlin, Germany
SMTOWN Live In New York, at the Madison Square Garde
2011 K-pop Music Festival in Sydney, Australia
62nd NHK Kouhaku Uta Gassen
Concert in Santiago, Chile Lima, Peru
First Japanese solo tour 3 years. Tickets were drained within minutes. 26 shows in 9 cities in 4 months
Only the 3rd foreign artist to hold a concert at the Tokyo Dome, for 3 consecutive days
Tone's 550,000 audience is the biggest audience a Korean ever drew in Japan
18th Annual Dream Concert
SMTown Live World Tour III in Los Angeles
2012 MBC Korean Music Wave
SMTOWN World Tour III to Taiwan
18th South Korean Presidential Inauguration Ceremony
Tohoshinki Live Tour 2013 Time five-dome tour, 2st K-pop artist, and the fourth foreign artist to do a five-dome tour
3-day concert series in Japan titled "The Return of the JYJ"
Final leg of the tour is at Nissan Stadium, the first foreign act to perform at the venue
JYJ is at a disadvantage because of the lawsuit they filed against Avex, their management company in Japan.
However, no excuses, right?
This is an easy one. Note that this is since the two group separated. No account of their own compositions when they give were still together.
- Changmin wrote Confession for "Keep Your Head Down", "I Swear" for Catch Me, Sleepless Night SHINee
- Jung wrote and choreographed "Checkmate" in Japanese
The rest of the songs were penned, composed or arranged by someone else.
JYJ either arranged, penned or composed all of the songs in their album In Heaven.
It is clear that in terms of records and live performances, TVXQ is the clear winner. It is a given that they get the support of a bigger company. That must also be taken into consideration given the success of JYJ despite the lack of monetary back up that SM provides TVXQ.
However, they could have caught on with the number of albums had they not elected to do solo projects.
On the other hand, it is those solo projects that seem to allow JYJ to grow as artists which could, eventually, allow them to create better music.
TVXQ did express their intention to use more of their own materials in future albums but for now, JYJ takes the cake in musical growth while TVXQ is the clear winner in terms of album and live performance success.
Judith on December 12, 2015:
It's pretty clear that JYJ has done all this while SM has done everything possible to destroy them. I wonder how long TVXQ would have lasted if they had been the focus of a boycott and received absolutely no support from a company. JYJ was the talent pool; the remaining TVXQ was the looks, currently sustained by a fandom and a company that would lose face if they failed.
apple on November 06, 2015:
That's exactly the point and I think every boy group has their own color and meaning behind their music. JYJ and TVXQ have a huge fan base ! They support them and this is right all fans want to see their idols happy . With happiness they can do good music and get great energy for the concerts.Personally i don't like how SM treats their artists ,it's not right all SM only cares about is money and not about the health of their artists, because of that so many idols and artists left SME...
saki on November 06, 2015:
I'm an ELF and I'm from midle east (Dubai). I love any groups who catch my attention to there music and the first one was jyj with the song In heaven I almost cries, for who says that jyj lack in emotions that realy wrong, I'm not comparing between them and TVXQ because this group also has there own songs but evryone must admit the fact that jyj make it without the TV or money support but with there music only.
there is a fact we ELF all khow is that the beak up of the groups in SM is not the falt in the singers that they left sm but in SM company her self because they treat her Idol like slave that what I noticed in all the hardship that face super junior and what said hankyung the ancien member of super junior that they have to perform even they are realy sick. and that is against humain right .
so don't blame jyj any more or critique the other groups but support them and made them the power to begin a new what ever they are in SM or not.
blackrose on November 01, 2015:
*I think they don't lack emotions or experience...
srry a mistake in my post
blackrose on November 01, 2015:
JYJ does their best in music think about it they would have given up when they don't love music and I think they don't lake emotions or experience to perform their songs !
JJ and YC are in the army but Junsu is still there and tries his best to con- vince people with his OWN music and his OWN feelings . JYJ had a hard time since they left SM and I think it was a hard decision to do that. You just can't say who is better both are good in their own ways . And TVXQ is good with their songs too. We can support both or is it so hard to be on both sides ? Aren't you happy to see JYJ or TVXQ smile ? Isn't it important ? I think it is when I heard JYJ's song "UNNAMEND SONG PART 1" I could feel the emotion TVXQ with KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN was good too ! I can't see where the problem is ...
FIGHTING JYJ AND TVXQ
AThought on September 15, 2015:
Hmmm well obviously the list is pretty outdated now... But I am pretty sure with their individual activities + group activities + businesses JYJ slay all the way. Lol at some Homin stans who still clinge to the 'Japan tour' life line. And in Korea JYJ is definitely more succesfull. Anyways.... Obviously the comparison is of no use.... But ahaha seeing salty stans going 'solo activities don't count' is such a lol. That was one of the reasons they got out you know? It counts because it is taking their time from group activities and if they had ignored that they would be even more successful as a group.
MsFairLady on September 08, 2015:
I'm not in this fandom, but I thought I could give a few thoughts on the topic. This article is ridiculous and so biased. JYJ is the true winner, three artists who go against the big SM, Goliath, and still make a decent living while being abused by this trashy company. SM is falling apart and people have less and less respect for this agency. They spend hundreds of hundreds on trainees and the result is not as amazing as they want people to believe it, not surprising. Karma is getting back to SM for all the wrong doings they did to some of their artists.
TVXQ is garbage and nothing compared to JYJ. They are given hundreds to be successful and still can't destroy JYJ when those only have pennies to work with. That's figurative btw. They are are not starting at the same starting line, you can't compare them. JYJ members are being discriminated because of their unwillingness to be a part of the brainless SM puppets. Shame on the Korean entertainment industry for boycotting three artists who want to make a difference in the industry.
I heard that you can only make a change if you stay in the system (SM), quitting the SM doesn't really help, it's a missed opportunity to change the system from the inside, could be true.
Those three traitors left two members behind, they don't deserve sympathy. Poor two members. I agree that's sad. However, there must be shared responsibilities in the disbandment that's why nobody wants to talk about it.
I highly dislike SM and I don't like any of their artists.
Kira 18.104.22.168.10 on July 07, 2015:
Okay it is clear that TVXQ is the winner, but it's not true.
I mean Junsu made three solo albums, made the best musical actor, and won lots of awards. Like Dracula the main role, Death in Elisabeth, Tears of Heaven, again lead main role, and don't forget L in Death Note musical.
Jaejoong and Yoochun has been doing acting in drama series and films, Yoochun won 25 awards, Jaejoong won lot of awards too.
TVXQ has becoming more and more popular that's true, but they also made few appearing in tv shows, like Cool Kidz with Changmin as MC, and they both has been in acting as well. Like Yunho's role in The NightWatch Man, Mimi with Changmin, and both latest acting dramas, is Changmin in The Scholar Who Walks in the Night, and Yunho in I Order You.
Lets not forget TVXQ made the world record for having largest fan club, but like my friend Faith15 said to her blog in Quotev, even though they're split some things never change, like Junsu never change his stage in his solo albums, instead of Junsu it was Xia, both fan-club of TVXQ and JYJ has never change the color, or fan name.
Like it or not, me and my friend stilled supporting both of them, and if you got a problem with that, deal with that!
Quinn on May 29, 2015:
On a very positive note for TVXQ: their performances still blew me away and give me the chills! I just hate SM for holding the reins too darn tight, loosen up a bit and give them space! Sometimes TVXQ's voices are not properly showcased with the songs given to them -_-. But listening to Yunho's and Max's voices, they have improved a lot actually.
(I just need to air this out. Feels like a lot of people are just too hard on TVXQ. No hate)
Quinn on May 29, 2015:
I think we need to give credit to JYJ for being able to survive even without much monetary backup (actually, kudos to the fans.) As per TVXQ, they should also be applaud for continuing the name and living up to the expectations of the people.
On the negative side, first, JYJ. The group may have the freedom now but their music is...I don't find it that appealing. During their initial releases, I was quite excited and I religiously tracked their activities but they lost my interest somehow. Yes, they seem to be successful with their individual activities but as a group...I don't feel them. Although I still love their voices of course but some of their songs just don't appeal to me. I think they were overwhelmed with the freedom and just was a bit out of place, idk how to describe it.
Now, TVXQ. Of course, they are completely controlled by SM which prohibits them to evolve musically since the songs they perform are mostly spoon fed to them. As a fan, I look forward to hearing more of their self-composed songs. Their musical growth as artists are quite slow which is why I think some people say that they have nothing new to offer. They still have catchy songs but I can't see where they are going. Unlike in their previous albums where you could see (hear) the musical progress for every album releases. (I guess, they are still experimenting since TVXQ were supposed to be an a capella group now turned into a duo.)
I still have high hopes for both group.
jessi on May 23, 2015:
But JYJ is still more popular tho. Especially Junsu in Korea, and Jaejoong everywhere outside Korea. Tvxq nowadays are only desperately hanging to the popularity they has in Japan. They are pretty much nothing in Korea. Their fans keep telling us they are on their peak in Japan, even bigger than when they were 5. It was all bull tbh. Back when they were 5 , nobody, not even Big Bang and their grandmothers can touch their popularity in Japan.
JYJ sells less TVXQ, but Jaejoong's solo album alone can sell more thn JYJ as a group and can rival TVXQ's fully promoted release, even when Jaejoong barely promotes. And to those talking about how JYJ should hire professionals instead of writing their own songs, I beg to differ. I guess it depends on your taste. I personally dislike TVXQ's release, they are too generic and just downright hurt my hearing lol. I like songs from other SM groups better.
I don't like JYJ's title song as well, but I personally feels that their b-side tracks like Creation and Be My Girl are masterpieces.
The one I love the most from JYJ tho, is the member's solo album. Omg 'Healing by Myself', 'Rotten Love', 'Flower '... LIKE OMG. The first two are written by Jaejoong btw. There's got to be something with your ears if you didn't like them.
So... that's about it LOL.
anonymous on April 25, 2015:
JYJ and TVXQ popularity is astound big..though more TVXQ, but still both group popularity is WOW..why compare them to each other??I felt like this post is asking for trouble..who like, it doesn't matter because they both are doing great job..it's sad that they went their ways, but their career is explosively well..I think we all should just stop attacking each other with hurtful, negative, rude comments and whatnot and just be happy that the five of them are doing what they love, and support them all in our own way..we all should move on with what happen, yes, I said that, WE ALL SHOULD MOVE ON, because though it did happen, it's life..look to the future of seeing them all standing on the same stage, it's coming soon..I know it's going to happen because it just happen..eventually after all of them come back from military service, yes, I said that, AFTER THEY FINISH THEIR MILITARY SERVICE ONE BY ONE, we are going to see them on tv..as a fan, I look forward to their projects now and future projects, I wish them well and good luck..I hope they all will bring joy, happiness, and create many many memories as well as music, movies, dramas, and whatnot in the present and future..as a I hope and wish they will find true love that will accept them for themselves..I wish and hope that their friendship will last forever and that one day am able to sit together with coffee, water, soda, or soju and talk and laugh and cry together..
a on March 30, 2015:
its clearly JYJ. they have a faithful fans, they always think about their fans and do their best
a on March 28, 2015:
truth always triumph. talented and hard working person always become the winner.
vjhhj on March 13, 2015:
What the heck? Having a fanwar inside the fandom? Why can't we cassies stop arguing who is better? can't we just support them both? Oh please im new to this fandom .. I'm pretty sure that they are friends now... we just can't really go back to the past now.. let's see the future together by supporting both groups okay?
Db5k on February 24, 2015:
I love them both equally and hope that someday they reunite and become db5k ...I really wanted to go to their concert before they broke up...:(
a on February 22, 2015:
whatever maybe the TRUST between JYJ and their fans is amazing. album sales is nothing when compared to gaining hearts of people. every people admire personality of JYJ members and there are highly talented when compared to other kpop idols.
Anny on February 11, 2015:
I believe and I like JYJ. There are too many motives for this, in my opinion. Thanks to Yuchun I discovered JYJ (SKKS 2010, KBSWORLD) and, of course, their past. I prefer JYJ.
mv on January 03, 2015:
It's too biased.
TVXQ is the clear winner!
TVXQ is the clear winner!
TVXQ is the clear winner!
three times in the same article.
a on December 09, 2014:
even though technically jyj song may be lacking but the feel given to the song is mindblowing
me on November 25, 2014:
i love TVXQ i'm listening to their song Chandelier ryt now,meh Yunho and Changmin's voice is just sooo beautiful,nice blending.TVXQ's charisma and stage presence is Awesome.they always own the stage when they perform,JYJ is lacking in this even though they have beautiful voices as well :)
a on November 23, 2014:
jyj song can make our heart taken away.they always care about their fans. because of jyj other kpop artist were able to do concert in south america now
LLBAB on November 17, 2014:
I like TVXQ now actually. I tried listening to JYJ but somehow I really can't. They obviously are both great entertainers but I find myself drawn more to Yunho and Changmin. I hope they continue to be successful in fulfilling their dreams.
CcDBSK on October 03, 2014:
DBSK as duo or JYJ?
This article is just stupid. Do you ever know about DBSK/TVXQ?
A true Cassiopeia would never say, that JYJ are better than DBSK or DBSK are better than JYJ.
That's impossible. DBSK as five are the best! No matter what they say. I'm supporting DBSK AND JYJ.
And fans, who say, that they lost their interest when they broke up, aren't true fans. Just sayin'
Well, stop the fanwar about JYJ and DBSK! We're all a family so please keep calm... better Keep the faith and wait for the comeback as five! ♥
a on September 26, 2014:
by showing unfair treatment to jyj. kpop industry is damaging their own image.how could they they treat their own citizen like this?
a on September 26, 2014:
jyj always do work for their fans to make them happy even though they face troubles. they never fail to help people in many ways. they have done lots of charitable works and donation. jyj always supports dbsk duo. they have strong bond. don't do such stupid comparison.
JustMe on August 29, 2014:
For me, I really love TVXQ duo, Yunho and Changmin. I just can't get enough with them. I even buy all their concerts DVD and albums which are worth it for a stingy person like me. Watching just the two of them, how they work hard together to hold up TVXQ name as high as possible just blow my mind away. At first I support and love JYJ but I'm quite disappointing with them because they seem to focus more on their SOLOS work rather than group. And their concerts, I don't know, I don't really like it. But well, this is my opinion and I still support all of them. Talk about my OT5 feeling..lol. Anyway, for me TVXQ duo is the WINNER! Peace ^^
sugarryyyyy on August 28, 2014:
This comparison is all nonsense. I still see both groups as five but I would chose jyj if I had to. JYJ songs are more touching than those of tvxq. so I like them better.
I support both groups and I will never agree with this bias comparison.
Hope to see their comeback as five. Always keep the faith.
a on August 14, 2014:
lets hope to see both of them stand in one stage to sing together
Jessica on August 07, 2014:
Bull Shit. Why because JYJ, unlike TVXQ - who are under a company as a group, has to stay a group, JYJ have been focusing more on their individual activities. Would we see Junsu as the successful Musical Idol he is today if he stayed? Would SM even let him do musical and release all his solos? Would they let Yoochun take part in SOO MANY dramas? Would they let JaeJoong release solos, compose, direct, and act?
No. They wouldn't. This is a bias comparison. While I understand that you are comparing JYJ and TVXQ - JYJ have not been solely focusing on singing only. They barely do. It's been 3 years since they last released anything as JYJ.
I support both group, but this is such a bias comparison I can't even.
LOLITA on August 02, 2014:
i think they are good in their own ways.
homin will never get praise for their voice and song if JYJ not get out from SM (You know who the best singer is) and JYJ will never doing such drama, film, and musical freely if they not coming out from SM.
And I think both Homin and JYJ still in good relation as friend so why their fan always figth for stupid think like more famous or success.
Anonymous on July 20, 2014:
Just stop comparing them~~
Meru on July 09, 2014:
this article is biased..
I like both equally, but if I had to choose it'd be JYJ's music, because it's genuine, emotional and it comes right from the hearts of them
if SM lets HoMin express their honest feelings in music, there's high possibility I'd like their music even more
Haruka on July 06, 2014:
Funny how the poll does not have the 'support both tvxq and jyj' option. fact is both are pretty successful in their own way, as a group or as solos. Whether their songs are nice is what matters most, to me at least. If their songs aren't likeable, people won't even listen to them.
mimiexo on June 30, 2014:
Tvxq way better. Do you know, if not SM who brought old tvxq to the peak of their carier, JYJ will not be so successful lile now. JYJ being popular thanks to SM, but at the end because the grudge between CJ to SM ent, CJ make the trio betray SM. And because of money, JYJ agreed to cooperated with CJ. what the hell? Blindly agreed after so many things SM done to them. That's why they only success for a while at japan, meanwhile current TVXQ was very successful whether at asia,europe, or korea. Their selfish mind of JYJ which brings them down. So serve them right.
babydoo on June 03, 2014:
what can I say ? haha after seeing this, I'm just speechless. Just look at the positive side. Although they're not together now, and the fans is breaking they still achieving something right ? actually I want them to come back as five so they can see how great their fandom are. But you know It's impossible.
GETOVERIT on May 30, 2014:
For a start, why do we need to know whose more famous or whatever? Both groups are doing well, whether backed by a big company or not. Both groups now have their own style of music, in JYJ's case, as a group or as solo artists.
As for SM making them famous, how exactly did they do that? Did they go out and buy all their albums to put them at no.1 in Korea? Or was it by putting them in a group, giving them a song and throwing them out to the sharks. Until people start opening their eyes to the fact that these companies ain't the ones that make these idols famous the sooner you'll stop praising SM for doing nothing but sit back and see all the dollar signs flash pass their eyes.
I believe its the idols themselves that go out and promote themselves around Korea and asia, not the company and before you start, they pay for their own plane tickets and that out of their "EPENSES" why they work hard for less pay. So the idols made themselves famous. In fact its the idols that put SM on the map not the other way round.
As for the crap excuse,"I liked them as dbsk, but now I only like tvxq" in other words, you never liked the other three when they were in the group. A true shouldn't need to pick one over the other unl
unknown... on April 19, 2014:
when they all together...its ok...when they separated as jyj n dbsk...i do not know why i do not attracted by jyj but i do love more dbsk as duo...I LIKE THE DUO...DBSK....
Hug on March 16, 2014:
We believe that JYJ and TVXQ are the
best friends forever.They will come back oneday as the most famous singer team and we will see again their flawless smile.
lover on March 16, 2014:
Don't make them more break down
We love all and we believe that TVXQ will COME BACK oneday.
anon on February 22, 2014:
Really, do we really need to no whose more popular than other? Who cares, they're all popular in their own ways, granted you all wish that they would get back together, but the question is "which group really wants to reunite?" At the beginning HoMin when they were TVXQ duo wanted to get back to the way they were, what was Yunho thinking? Why would JYJ go through all that lawsuit stuff just to renew their contract with the company that made them miserable for who knows how long.
You know what, just because jyj didn't have the money backing like HoMin did at least they had the fire in their hearts to work hard to get to where they are today, they've overcome a lot throughout the years, being apart from the brothers they left behind, not being able to be on the same variety shows and music shows as other idols because PD's are too scared of what Lee Soo Man would probably do, who cares, he's not the one that puts idols at number 1, its the fans that do that. Without fans, where would musicians and actors be, even sports celebrities.
If your fans of TVXQ does it really matter whose better out of them now? Just be happy they're all still doing what they love And worked for all those years to get to.
Aziera Hassan on February 18, 2014:
I'm a new-belated fan of DBSK. It doesn't matter to me who is more successful in their career. Those member can sing and dance very well and it was impressed me especially during their live performance without lips-sync where SNSD used to do (I know SNSD sooner than DBSK...than u know how late I am). But SNSD is not my point cause i like their songs also. You know and you can fell their aura while singing. I'm gone crazy for 24/7 for the whole week just to know about this band. But just one conclusion is they are perfect when perform in 5. Being this late as fan is terrible cause I only can look for their history and no more now. It so hurtful (I don't know why). Maybe because I just knowing the reality that I'll never see them as 5 do the live performance. It not necessary to be in one team if u want to perform. If they resist to re-unite it's okay too but..could they just in one fine day...stand in the one stage and sing the song they used to?
guest on February 10, 2014:
if you want to compare please be fair, when JYJ can promoted like the rest kpop idol, then lets compare again, clearly JYJ not just lack tv appearance but no tv appearance at all and here i talk about all music show, variety show, radio broadcast.
JYJ working so hard staying relevant by working as actor even thought they are singer and want to promoted their song not their skill as actor since this is not their first job.
and what wrong we support them bcs we feel sympatic too them , love is all about care, like their work but also love their personality and here i'm one of those who support JYJ bcs they are the one who make me never give up. and its the same with homin too didn't you homin fans support them bcs you feel sympatic too its all bullshit if you don't feel that.
seriously if you compare all member separately then you can see whose the one who grow up more musicaly here.
just a fan on February 07, 2014:
*sorry formy bad english before, i'm not native in english* but i would like to say my opinion. My bias is jaejoong, and i don't really like to compare both groups. But since the topic is, okay i'm in. I really like jj's voice, so if u ask me, yeah i like jyj's songs. I used to overprotective to a comment which harm jj or jyj (since jj is in jyj). But lately i come to my right mind.
Now, jyj is in cjes, and tvxq is still in sm. As we all know, sm really has a lot exp in this area than cjes. I'm not gonna talk about how much money that sm own but its true sm is really powerfull. Even though the artist isn't very talented but sm can make her or him popular with extraordinary promotion.
In MYO jj is very good at singing, composing, moderate at acting (quite good at dr.jin), and ordinary at dancing (unlike junsu or yunho). Junsu is really good at singing, dancing, and doing musical. Yoochun is good at composing, moderate in dancing, quite good at rapping and singing, and well done in acting. Changmin is also very good at singing especially he has unique voice, moderate at acting, good at dancing. While yunho is very good at dancing, first time acting (awkward) but better in yawang. Yunho's is really good now at singing, he's improving his voice a lot. I would say, yunho is amazing.
When jyj left sm, i worried about tvxq, since jyj is the voice of tvxq, what would happen of these 2. But tvxq now is amazing. For u all homin haters, somehow deep inside, i believe u say the same thing as i am.
I would lie if i like 2 vs 3, no matter what happen, they were 5. No matter wht happen they're have the same history. Tvxq's song now is great but i miss the harmonisation when 5. Jyj song is great too but i miss the high note.
I don't really know what exactly the reason behind this separation, but i'll continue support all of them.
But i have to admit now, when i see tvxq performance, i'm still fascinated by two of them. But jyj ... Sadly, jj somehow forgot the dance and lyrics. Even perform his own song, he forgot too. Yeah i know, he's human being. Still jj is my bias.
Last, please stop compare them, for me, both are winner. I can't choose and i won't choose. Each of them is the best.
Mega on February 07, 2014:
please don't compare jyj and tvxq anymore. Enough, its enough
anonymous on January 26, 2014:
I just want them to do one last acapella together. Forget all about the pain, the past, and just sing. One more song and ill be satisfied. :'(
a on January 24, 2014:
jyj and tvxq both are good but jyj is best since they contribute their work in different fields most successfully
abc on January 13, 2014:
I am neutral but so obvious - The winnier is TVXQ.
JYJ seems not working hard to do their work as a team these days...
anonymous on January 12, 2014:
I disagree..I don't think JYJ is better than the new TVXQ..just my opinion of course..but what was funny is how you think by performing with kanye west means anything hahahahahha...... Im not a hater either..I give props to JYJ writing their songs etc...never thought they lacked talent but it doesn't mean they are better.
Anonymous on January 11, 2014:
Well..when you think about it there has been a lot of good artist around That aren't as well shown to the public because of their company. I mean really. Smtown is the biggest company with foreigners all around the Americas and Europe and has only gotten much bigger after JYJ left the company therefore anyone here who says they like tvxq are mostly American and wouldn't know about JYJ because their companies aren't as big.
But seriously JYJ is talented and much better than the new TVXQ. Why do you think that they are the ones who partner with kanye west and have actually performed in the US without the help of their company's money.
Same thing with YG entertainment to whoever says SNSD is better than 2ne1. Its just about the money and not about how much talent they actually have. Unless you know someone who lives in Korea and sees how music is without the influence of how much a company can make a group public with money then anyone who writes here is just blinded by Smtown's money.
mmaria on January 06, 2014:
agree with atraxiya 1000x especially on jyj's composing and performances. Their songs were refreshing when they appeared from time to time on albums, but not anymore. I've been observing their work since the split, but nothing made me excited except Empty (which is such a basic song), In heaven and some songs on WWW. The lasting effect was short though, compared to tvxq, whose songs are catchy and even more varied after the split. It's funny, because since jyj, who have this artistic freedom and better voices, should be able to create better material than what they have released so far.
achik on January 05, 2014:
TVXQ THE BEST
Getaway on December 17, 2013:
TVXQ is the best :)
Duobias on December 17, 2013:
I love TVXQ duo music. Enough said.
And about "solo" projects...Ummm well people should not really care about that since we are talking about TVXQ vs JYJ as Kpop group, and NOT individuals members but I should care now because they are trying to make look their oppars awesome when Im not agree.
Junsu as singer is overrated, everyones knows that.
Yoochun is an overrated actor too.
Jaejoong, no coments here, he tries hard to be a "rockstar" please NO.
And since Im bias,
Changmin is doing pretty well as MC and the show is getting very famous. As singer he grow up for the better and he can do whatever genre he wants. About writing, he have the talent since the old days, he don't need to write over 100 songs to show he is a "real" musician.
Lastly as an actor, well he win awards from Japan for "Fly eith the gold" he work with awesome actors and a great director, as a result a great job there. Paradise Ranch was fun, but bland and yet still he did a nice job from a typical korean drama.
So yeah he can act, dance ,sing, mc, write.
Yunho, he obviously grow up with his voice and improve so much! he is getting better and better.
He does a great job in Yawang, and awesome drama too.
He can do musical and doing very well.
TVXQ is a dance machine, they try different styles from their albums and Im really thankfull for the new sound of this TVXQ.
PS: You don't count TONE album!
Ain on December 07, 2013:
JYJ is the best
schu on November 18, 2013:
im not into their acting since my first impression on them they are really good at singing. comparison between jyj & tvxq it hurt but it also reality.
i am tvxq fan but i love jyj song more. maybe because all the songs produce during hard time they work hard for their fans to make it well so,the result turn out not bad. you can feel the sincerity inside the song they dedicate to their fans. maybe because of that fans still support them no matter what they do, and no matter what people criticize them.
they take all the blow on them and make strong move forwards.
Even JYJ not make excuses why we should say " oh they cannot win because of lack promotion from tv"??? .
JYJ & TVXQ good luck on your carrier.
Linn on September 28, 2013:
Well, since I am a Kpop fan I couldn't care less about other stuff such as being an actor, musical, composing or opening up businesses like what JJ had done.
Seriously i'm not sure if people are being bias or they really like watching K-drama or fly all the way wherever to watch their musicals (Junsu & Yunho's) coz I'm a TVXQ fan only for their music...some variety like Running Man too coz I watched it even wayyy before I heard about them.
I think fan/stan need to take a back seat and 'realise' that they don't need to jump to their bias defence just to show how relevant they are that they're bragging things not related to Kpop anymore lol.
Unless you're moved on to K-drama etc ignore me then...
One more thing, JYJ fans seems to be giving praise to JJ and Junsu's SOLO work more. Just saying...
Anonymous on September 27, 2013:
This article was not fair in their comparison.
As JYJ, the members deed their own solo projects and became even more popular and succeed in their respective field.
In terms of the music and pop scene, Homin is doing really well in Japan. but they didn't make any impact when they try their solo projects in drama and musical.
Junsu, change the musical world... he entered with Mozart, Tears of Heaven and Elizabeth. Winning best Actor award for his role as Death. He became an established musical actor, and is respected by his peers, and is not frowned upon as a idol, but as an actor.
He won over the heart of the composer of Mozart and Elizabeth, and that is an amazing accomplishment.
Yoochun entered Drama and made a name for himself... SKK, Miss Ripley, Rooftop Prince, and I Miss You. He won many awards and is considered the best actor that started off from an idol.
JaeJoong branched out into everything... Started in a drama Protect the Boss, Jackle is coming Movie, composing songs for other artist and opening up his own business..
Anonymous on September 26, 2013:
Well, I don't think so. This article, I could say is a very biased comparison. I don't get it how you say that one is more popular than the other when in fact the whole thing is already unfair because as what you have already stated "JYJ's lack of TV appearances". It's common sense to know that for a singer or a musician like them to reach out to people using their music they should have an avenue for people to listen to their music but how can they relay their music to the people when they are not given the chance to promote like any Korean groups.
Yes, you can see them in dramas but it is not a guarantee that people will know them as singers. I, too, have mistaken them as actors if I hadn't tried to look over them on the Internet. And besides in a marketing perspective, those idol groups that can freely promote on broadcasts can have greater opportunities to get attention to the public whereas, JYJ, as musicians only have loyal fans that knew them even before to back them up. They are not given the chance to be known to the younger generation because of their situation. And most of all, they are promoting with a new name unlike TVXQ's name, which is already established way before when they are still five. What if they are given the fair stage, same with everyone else before you say these things towards them? Let's find out which is really which!
P.S. That "musical growth thing" this article is saying is really stupid. If you have pointed out their contributions in their albums, you might have missed something. Try looking at their album histories whose got the most songs penned and composed by these three guys compared to the other two cause I think you might feel shamed. I'm sorry for saying these but you should have looked at it in a fairer perspective cause this article is pure HoMin biased.
atraxiya on September 23, 2013:
'It is a given that they get the support of a bigger company. That must also be taken into consideration given the success of JYJ despite the lack of monetary back up that SM provides TVXQ.'
JYJ only survives thanks to their fanbase so JYJ should thank Sm for making them famous.Let's not be hypocrites. Jyj only left sm because they knew that fangirls will support them no matter what.
If you want to say that it's a given for tvxq, then that's a given for jyj too since both rely on fanbases.
and about jyj composing songs, i really wish they can stop and hire professional composers .Composing songs doesn' t make you automatically a better artists.Result is what it matters.
You don't know many things.I remember how in 2010, everyone was saying that TVXQ was over but tvxq cameback in 2011 to prove everyone wrong and their live performances as a duo was picked as the best in Kpop by professionals.so who got the looks only? lol.
it's not a given that tvxq is still going strong but it was expected from jyj to survive since they got sympathy from fangirls.
you should check jyj live performances , no offense but they lack even the basics now and they look like that are not even trying.