Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie’s daughter Shiloh wants to be a boy, screams the headlines.
The story goes on to show 4 year old Shiloh dressed like a boy and with a distinctly boyish haircut, which I can’t say too much about, considered I had the same cut as a child.
Shiloh’s parents, Angelie Jolie and Brad Pitt, apparently announced to the world in 2008 that Shiloh wished only to be known as ‘John’ which is a bit odd considering that Shiloh must have been aged only 2 at the time!
Apparently she still calls herself John and likes dressing in boy’s clothes, while celebrity child psychologists are saying things like “Brad and Jolie are doing exactly the right thing by allowing Shiloh to express herself as a boy” and ”this is normal, it is common for girls to want to dress up like boys and vice versa”.
Shiloh - dressed like a little girl?
She’s 4 years old, for God’s sake! Obviously celebrity parents just love the limelight on themselves or their families. To go along with Shiloh is madness. It is a parent’s job to bring children them up and teach them values, teach them right from wrong, and steer them on the best possible course in life.
By not only encouraging their little girl to act like a boy, they are allowing the world to know of it. Shiloh is going to grow up one day and this story will follow her around for the rest of her life. She’ll very likely become a celebrity too and all the magazines will be wanting to know either “When did she decide to become a girl again?” or “How did the sex change operation go?”
To which, Shiloh will reply “Oh I always knew I wanted to be a boy.”
Shiloh Jolie Pitt
Of course, it’s perfectly possible that Shiloh is indeed mixed gender and should have been a boy but highly unlikely. I don’t think any child who at aged 2 turned round and announced to her family that she wanted to be known as ‘John’, apparently after a character in Peter Pan, seriously knows the difference between the sexes.
Most families would laugh at such a thing, maybe even call the little girl John for a time until the joke wore off, then it would be back to using their proper name.
But not apparently in celebrity families. There would have been a Press release and of course follow-up stories, interviews with top magazines and newspapers, no doubt vast sums of money changing hands, and a new wardrobe of boy’s clothes for Shiloh to go with the celebrity photographs.
Shiloh looking remarkably like Home Alone star Macauley Culkin
Angelina Jolie talks to Vanity Fair
Angelina Jolie simpers to Vanity Fair magazine “Brad and I would love to have more children, but we want to make sure we can give each child special time. We don’t want to build a family so big that we don’t have time to raise them all”.
Hey honey start with one of the ones you have. Little Shiloh needs to be told firmly that a joke is a joke, and buy her girls clothes. Or at least boy clothes in girl colors which are usually happier brighter colors than boys can wear, and tell the Press to back off.
Stop giving interviews condoning and encouraging the world to think that your daughter is a bit different. Shiloh isn’t even school age yet. Can you imagine the ribbing her school pals will be giving her for this? Unless of course they are all celebrity children to whom odd things seem normal.
I’ve no reason to believe Brad and Jolie don’t make fantastic parents to Maddox, eight, Pax, six, Zahara, five and 2 year old twins Knox and Vivienne. But in this instance they are wrong, in my opinion.
Shiloh would look adorable in an outfit like this
“She wants to be a boy. So we had to cut her hair. She likes to wear boys’ everything. She thinks she’s one of the brothers. Shiloh, we feel, has Montenegro style. She dresses like a little dude. It’s how people dress there. She likes tracksuits, she likes [regular] suits. Shiloh’s hysterically funny, one of the goofiest, most playful people you’ll ever meet. Goofy and verbal, the early signs of a performer. I used to get dressed up in costumes and jump around,” the actress Angelina Jolie explains in an interview with Vanity Fair.
Hey Angelina, wake and smell the coffee! None of us know what the heck is "Montenegro style", but don't suffer under the delusion that your little girl is some kind of trendsetter. She's 4 years of age! She is, at her age, reflecting YOUR values, your STYLE. Not her own. She won't develop that for years so stop putting your ideals on your little girl.
Allow her to develop at her own pace, and put her in girl's clothes. Have you looked in the shops, there are some GREAT outfits for little girls that don't include the color pink or daft ribbons.
Shiloh coming down steps - another photo opportunity?
Surely at 4 years of age, it is the child's mother who decides what they wear? It's not a case of Shiloh borrowing her brother Pax's clothes. These outfits are obviously brand new, bought especially for Shiloh.
Been shopping for more boys clothes, have we Mum?
Shiloh poll - what do you think?
Pip Stone on June 07, 2018:
As a transgender woman - it is not "mixed" gender - I fully support John. I knew at age 6 that I was not really a boy.
This hub the most transphobic waste of the internet that I have read in a long time - and we have just been through a divisive marriage equality vote here in Australia.
Until you or someone close to you has had to live a lie about their true identity, stick to knitting pattern reviews.
Jo on December 28, 2014:
I disagree with the author also about making the child wear what the parent says! I am a mother of 3. My youngest 2 are twin girls now age 6.
One of my twins from around 2yrs has always wanted boy toys and clothes. Dresses masculine from then on, not my choice she is very strong willed. Her twin sister is complete girly. So I think kids do know from a young age their style! My daughter always choses the male role in games & changes her name accordingly.
JJ on December 20, 2014:
To say that this is a joke or just a phase is so close minded. It's because of this that children grow up thinking they have to follow gender stereotypes in order to be perceived as normal and be accepted into society. I have a trans friend who since he was two, showed behaviour that indicated that he wanted to be a boy. He is now 17 and is acknowledged as a boy after coming out last year as being trans. He has a mother who allowed him to make choices regarding the toys he played with and the way he dressed, which was always more male. If she had said "ok jokes over time to dress like a girl again" this would have been seriously damaging. Another person I know who is trans said that they were treated this way and almost commit suicide because of feeling like they couldn't really be who the knew they were. Luckily they overcame this depression, found more accepting people and has also come out as trans and is a much happier person for being their true self. I think that it is wonderful that Angie is allowing Shiloh to dress this way, it isn't hurting her or damaging her and I'm sure that it's not against Shiloh's will. If she is trans then so be it, and if not then she will let Angie know that she wants to dress more girly again and I'm sure Angie will allow it, judging by the comments she has made in interviews.
Joede on December 20, 2014:
It is just as if some parents stand on the sidelines and let their children make decisions with little if any guidance. Sad state of affairs.
KP on December 16, 2014:
This article is extremely overly judgemental. I'd also like to point out the ridiculous comment "buying boys clothes" on the photo of the blue bag. Cipriani is a restaurant. and who cares if she's wearing boys clothes? They're probably more comfortable
Gio on October 16, 2014:
honestly, I what see nothing wrong with her -- well, him... (As what Shiloh wishes to be called)
You're saying just because she is 4, it's automatically a phase? What Angelina Jolie is doing is not bad, she is letting her child express himself. Angelina is not forcing her child to dress up like a boy, she's letting him express and explore themselves. As a trans boy, most likely it's not a phase when you feel that you need to be called a boy and dress like one.
You're quite ignorant!
Nadia on September 18, 2014:
Lots of trans* or genderqueer people start expressing themselves as their prefered gender at a very early age, and if shiloh prefers to be called john and wear boy clothes whats the harm? if that is how they feel most comfortable then that is how they should be allowed to dress. And on the whole 'forcing' them into 'girl' clothes - that seems way more harmful to me.
Guest on September 16, 2014:
They have been dressing shiloh like a boy since she was 2-3 years old. Shiloh didn't CHOSE THIS PATH. She is a chid! This is all Jolie's doing. Wanting attention for raising a tranny so she looks like the greatest mom ever. Her own path MY ASS! ALWAYS about how fascinating Jolie is.
Makalou on September 14, 2014:
She's a kid. I find this entire article to be barbaric. I'd imagine her parents are allowing her choice in whatever she chooses -- thus her other sisters are far more feminine and she's following her own path.
Anon on September 06, 2014:
This article is narrow-minded and disgusting and so is the abhorrent transphobe who wrote it.
M on September 04, 2014:
Are you kidding me??? You're saying that because Angelina has mental problems, she's not a fit mother? I have bipolar disorder and have tried to kill myself, so obviously I'm not a fit mother either then? Just because someone is mentally ill does not mean they are a terrible person. People like you who pass judgment are the terrible people. Yes she probably has her demons but she cares for each and every one of those children and you can tell by the way she LISTENS to how they feel. She allows John so express himself as it should be. I can't believe we still live in a world where people like you judge someone's ability to parent by their past instead of the things which they do for their children.
M on September 04, 2014:
Okay, here's the thing about your article that annoys me and honestly offends me, some children do believe they are a boy. It's not always a phase like you're suggesting and John (Shiloh) may actually be a boy in his mind. What Angie and Brad are doing is fostering John and asking the press to call Shiloh by his preferred name. It would be insulting and probably make John upset if he were forced into girls clothing when he identifies as a boy. I don't believe they're doing it for publicity. This article is insulting to transgender/bi gender children and the parents which help foster their identity.
reneraven on September 02, 2014:
This person knew who they were when they were at 3. I have no doubt Shiloh knows who (s)he is at this point. We as humans should simply look at people for who they are and not what you think they should be. Enough with the labels.
trans rights! on September 02, 2014:
Whoever you are, you should die.
namename on August 20, 2014:
I think the problem here is that, the parents seem to "push" the little girl into being/becoming a boy. It seems like a little joke has turned into something that is going to have a serious impact on this little girl's life when she grows up. Like most others have said, kids tend to act like the opposite in younger stages in their lives, girls act like boys, boys like girls. Then they usually get over it some time later, usually a very short time later. You should let your child grow up the way it want, but not as early as 2 or 4 years. I feel like Shiloh's parents were too early about letting the girl decide. My opinion on this is that 2-4 years is too early a stage to decide such an important thing. But of course, this is just my opinion, I'm not to judge. Neither is the author of this article, nor those who find this article terrible. Don't forget that we all have the right to express our opinions, positive or negative.
brenda on August 20, 2014:
Shame on you for talking trash about a little girl and her mother. I don't care whose child it s. Children know who they are and if she wants to dress as a boy and be called John, so be it. No one had to tell me who I was or what to call myself, I knew who I was early on in life, and I am sure this little girl does too. Just because she is young doesn't mean she is stupid. Children know who they are, and my guess is this child is trangender and she knows in her gut who she is and until she says otherwise it is not YOUR place to pass judgement on her and assume she is too stupid to know who she is or what her gender is. Children are not trangender by choice, they are transgender by nature and the smarter the kid, the earlier they will realize it. Did you know you were a girl early in your life or did you need your Mom to buy you a tutu and matching tights to get the picture? It takes a very ignorant person to try to change a person from who they are to what they think they should be. In the end, the damage and hurt caused by such ignorance takes a lifetime to overcome. So stop it. Educate yourself, and stop being a bully (and encouraging others to do the same.
jas on July 23, 2014:
You're truly a nasty person. Who are you to decide that this is "wrong"? The Jolie-Pitts ARE teaching their child right from wrong: it is right to be yourself, do what makes you comfortable, and it is wrong to make yourself uncomfortable just to fit into Hollywood's norms. I think it is wonderful that they are letting Shiloh/John make personal choices and supporting those choices like good parents do. How many LGBTQ children are forced to be someone that isn't themselves and live with fear and depression because of family members who made a big deal out of it and told them its "wrong"? Its much better to be a loving, accepting, supportive parent who helps their child form their own style, become their own person, etc regardless of age, gender identity, and regardless of whether they're famous or not. And they arent trying to put their child in the limelight. They aren't having huge articles and photo spreads or anything. Its just paparazzi which is basically unavoidable unless you lock your kid up behind doors, and answering a couple questions. Not only is it harmlessn (besides people like you who make a big deal out of it and calling it wrong), but it also is setting a good example for the world, showing kids and parents that its ok to be who you want to be, and if you want to be a different gender then so be it. Its people like you who are criticizing a little kid, and criticizing the parenting, when you have no clue what you're talking about. Even the child behavioralists said it is good what they're doing. You're being an idiot. Its disgusting that you're criticizing this, its none of your business and you're being hurtful to the progress our society has made. You should feel ashamed.
Hoppey on June 28, 2014:
I guess the the thing that most irritated me about her dressing and looking like a boy was I thought it was forced on her by her parents but if it is something that she chose to do then I know first hand what a battle it can be if child doesn't want to dress a certain way and in that case it should be up to the child how she/he wants to dress and even at an early age some children already know what kind of clothes they prefer.
leah on June 20, 2014:
Get over it and stop blaming. She is obviously so happy with the way she is dressed and I applaud Angelina for making her child smile despite what the world will think. Shiloh doesn't have to be hidden and the way she is shouldn't be regarded any less than beautiful. Suppressing your child will lead to a future of self hatred and fear. Stuff the world and the ignorant people in it. Smile and do your thing John/Shiloh (some 2 year olds are wiser than you think)
StillStandingNow on June 15, 2014:
People going on about gender identity have no clue what they are talking about. As a career psychiatric nurse for kids aged 6 to 12, it became clear (as many other professionals and studies will attest) that kids to not have control over their gender identity. It just IS. Shiloh may or may not wish to be a boy as she grows up, but even if she DOES..."What's it *to* ya?"
Caleigh on June 05, 2014:
I think people are making way too big a deal of this. Most trans people say they knew from their earliest memories that they felt like they were in the wrong gender. I personally didn't really start noticing it until I was 14, but I'm in the minority. I can tell you as someone who has both talked to over a hundred different trans people, and who is trans herself, that I've not once talked to someone who felt pressured by their parents (or anyone else for that matter) to transition. Usually, it's quite the opposite. We meet opposition at every turn.
Does Shiloh wanting to dress like and play with the boys mean she is trans? No. No it doesn't. Some girls are just tomboys. Sometimes they grow out of it, sometimes they don't. Either way, it doesn't make them trans. What makes someone trans, is them actually feeling they are a diffrerent gender. And trust me, there's no amount of outside pressure that's going to change that.
Wanting to dress, and act like a boy could be a phase. Being trans isn't. If it is just a phase, she'll grow out of it, and it will just be "Hey, remember when I used to dress like a boy all the time. What was I thinking." If it's not just a phase, then he'll transition in a much more loving and accepting environment than the one I came out of.
In either case, Shiloh has another seven to ten years to decide what they want to do. In the meantime, it's just clothes and a haircut. Neither of which is permanent, or even a big deal.
Karyne Duval on June 04, 2014:
I hate this article and its closemindness. "She's only 4, for God's sake"? Well, you should have done your scientific research before publishing such scam. Children learns about their sexual identity between the age of 3 and 5. That's right about her age, isn't it?
And you should know that almost half of transgender people try/commit suicide at a very young age. Why? Because of **** people like you, who thinks it's a phase and a want for attention, and think it's abnormal and ridiculous.
Let Shiloh be a boy, if that is what he wants. What he feels.
And I think that Angelina and Brad are wonderful parents if they listen to THEIR child, screw the world.
Michael on June 04, 2014:
As a 28 year old transman, this articles reeks of hatred and bigotry. Let Shiloh express themselves, could be a phase, could be something more. Their parents obviously love and support them, which is way more than what I got when I came out (I was threatened with death by my dad with a wrench... Nice). Let them be them and what happens happens.
Consolacion Miravite from Philippines on May 30, 2014:
Kids at that age would have a different perception of the world. I remember my little tot, at three years old, showing her pictures to the birds and talking to the dogs. She can't make up her mind, if she was a little boy, a bird, cat, dog, or all of the above.
I never thought that something was wrong with her and it was one of those stages in her life that really made me happy. She enjoyed playing with water, and all that she dreamt about was either becoming a dishwasher or a washer woman. Those were fun years. She eventually became an award winning literary writer.
I guess, kids will always be kids! Just enjoy the ride while they are still young. They eventually grow up and the fun stops! Lol!
kim on May 30, 2014:
Perhaps the Pitt/Jolie parents are hiding something? Could the child have been born multi sexed or hermaphrodite? Otherwise, I don't see any reason for claiming a 2 year old wants to be a boy.
Archa from India on May 30, 2014:
The girl is just 4 years old and they have some different ideas and perception towards life. She is just a kid and i guess such talks of theirs should not be made public.
Consolacion Miravite from Philippines on May 30, 2014:
From ages two to four, my only daughter couldn't make up her mind if she was a --- cat, dog, or a boy. Her definition of a girl was having earrings. Since she didn't have one at that time, she thought that she was boy.
She only realized that she was girl, when she turned five. Apparently, there was a school project in science class that instructed them to draw a male sex organ. She looked at the encyclopedia, and realized that she didn't have it. Only then did it dawn on her that she was a girl! Lol!
Some kids can lead very confusing lives, like Shiloh! :D
DrATsan on May 29, 2014:
Do any of you commentors realize how cruel and childish you're being? Although you might THINK you have an idea of what's going on in this child/family's life, you do not. Also, pushing children into stereotypical "girl" roles is complete horseshit. This is not YOUR chikd(thank god). And if she is transgendered, guess what? It's still none of your business! How does it make you feel to be condescending to a child? Does it make you feel less jealous of their jet set lifestyle? Does it make you feel like a superior parent? You are all OBVIOUSLY trying to feel SOME type of superiority, suggesting she "wear pink dsnim", or "shaming her parents for letting her express herself". Shame on all of the commentors that are judging a family that they don't know. Shame on all of you.
ME on March 21, 2014:
So sad to read this persons opinion, don't really know how i could kept reading this mindless point of view. Apparently doesn't know what transgender means and how can it affect a persons mind and self esteem. They think there's no place for them just because they're not understood. I advice to do some research in the matter, you know, just to know what the heck are you talking about, not just celebrity gossip.
quemasda on March 14, 2014:
What happens in your fucking head?!?! Nothing happens if she wants to be a boy. She needs support on this, and his parents are given her. She has to express like she is. You are HOMOPHOBIC. Accept the people just the way they are. Doesn't matter her age, she knows that is a boy. Never is too early to know it. She know it know, and is better grow feeling accepted that have to repress it and suffer. STUPID
Mandy on March 06, 2014:
You are a small minded moron. This child should be allowed to dress in the way she feels most comfortable. People like you are everything that is wrong with humanity.
Jake on March 02, 2014:
There is absolutely no problem with this whatsoever. People doubt children when they feel a certain way when child are the most genuine people, especially when they are such a young age. If Shiloh wants to be called John, maybe she's just having fun, but maybe she'll choose to make that a permanent change later. No one, not even her parents, are able to tell her how she feels. And the fact that they are letting her express herself is a beautiful thing that more parents should do. I think there is nothing wrong with what they are doing. They are not looking to be put in the spot light. We are putting them there because what they are doing is "strange" even though it shouldn't be. I applaud Angelina and Brad for parenting done right.
jess on February 22, 2014:
looks like its 3 years later, john still dresses like a boy, and the majority of these comments are shitty people who wouldn't let their kids express themselves because they're too embarrassed to let them. if you dont like the looks your getting because your son has a skirt on or your daughter cut her hair and wore shorts, then maybe you shouldn't be a god damned parent, and maybe you should have thought of that before having a kid. the amount of stories of kids being denied the right to wear clothes that they think appeals to who they are is absolutely ridiculous. hopefully now, 3 years later, you people realise how crappy of an article this is and how many of you really needed personality checks in 2011. its 2014, the ice caps are melting, people are dying, get a life and realise not everyones an english speaking middle classed white cis straight person.
Gy on February 15, 2014:
This is the most stupidest article I have ever read and that's all I can say, because I am just gob smacked that people are as narrowed minded as the author and everyone agreeing.
anon on January 08, 2014:
I am a transgender 13 year old and i am blessed to have a supportive mother, stepdad, dad, and sisters. They allow me to dress as i like. If you wanted to wear a dress.. and your mom told you no.. how would you feel? What would you do? I think its amazing that John (Shiloh) is growing up in a wealthy family. She can get hormone blockers, surgery, etc. when she is older. They are expensive so Angelina and Brad should be able to pay for them. People that are not transgender will never know what its like to be in the "wrong body." Being a trans* boy, it physically and mentally hurts to wake up every morning to see my breast and vagina. You will never know what that feels like. We, as trans* people, suffer daily from dysphoria and constantly are scared of being murdered or falling so deep into depression that we take our own lives. JOHN is on the right path, to be honest. What is Angelina supposed to do? Make John dress like a girl against her will? Not support her so she hates herself and commits suicide? What's better... expressing yourself or killing yourself? And dont pull the God card, please. I am a Catholic, i have had communion and i go to confession. I go to school, hang out with friends, go out on dates, watch movies, etc. I am a normal human being who is learning to love myself. Anyway, i am Female to Male and God loves me. He created me. I will one day see him in Heaven, and all of you that are judging how Angelina raises her kid are wrong. No matter what i say, you wont listen, you will just argue more. So i will stop her and pray for you to all see the positive things that can come from what Angelina is doing.
maverickklh on January 03, 2014:
THIS WRITER IS IGNORANT AND ATTACHED TO AGENDA FYI
ttt on December 28, 2013:
Uncommonmama on December 27, 2013:
As the mom of a transgender child, it seems people who have commented here are uneducated on the issue of transgender. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it. I don't know Angelina and Brad, but gender dysphoria is a diagnosable medical condition. Gender is who you are -- not who you love. My child was born one gender, but identifies as the other. She has been a girl since before she could speak. By five, she was depressed and suicidal. Once she was able to be her true self, she became a well adjusted, happy child. She transitioned with the help of physicians and psychaitrists at the age of six. We do not get publicity for this. But we are doing what's right for our child -- just as Angelina and Brad are. If they can raise awareness for trans children, it will be a gift.
Audrey on December 26, 2013:
I could not disagree with this article more. I have a cousin who is transgendered. She knew it before she could crawl. It wasn't her wanting to be a boy but rather the feeling that she was a boy born into a girls body. I will say that before I saw it and watched her grow up, I may have agreed with this article. I am not saying that this is what's happening with Shiloh. The fact that someone who doesn't know her wrote this article after reading a few interviews the mother gave is absurd. Who are you to develop such a strong opinion on so little information? Frankly it says more about the author than the little girl it's written about.
To put this idiocy into perspective, let's imagine our own children for a second... My daughters are uniquely different and very young. I purchase their clothes and they have the option to choose from them what they want to wear. If I hung boys' clothes in their closets, they flat out would not wear them. They each have a style of their own and I highly doubt that her parents hold her down and force her into these clothes everyday. We raise our children to be individuals and part of that is allowing them to make choices. Safe choices, within reason, and with some direction. Style is one of the first forms of expression... Who the hell cares if she looks like a boy or of she wants or doesn't want to wear girls' clothing. Your narrow minded judgment is what she will look back on later and read. And I promise you, crap like this will teach her more about the world than her mothers articles.
C#P) on December 21, 2013:
This article offends me. Who are you to tell them how to raise their child? and how dare you say they are doing this just to get the lime light! you sicken me by your close-mindedness
Chris on December 17, 2013:
If Shiloh wants to be John, then LET the kid be John! What if Shiloh's trans? I think Jolie is doing the right think and letting her child lead the way when it comes to gender expression.
Kay on December 14, 2013:
It's a good thing your not Shiloh's mother. You don't know what's happening in that family. Are you really saying that the outfit she's wearing coming down the steps is a boy's outfit? That's ridiculous! She's young and impressionable. There's no reason for you to take this serious. How dare you judge a person's parenting. No matter what happens in the future Shiloh will grow up with the idea that her mother respected and loved her enough to do what she wanted. There are girls who wear costumes all year round. That's not normal, but it's accepted. Plus, I'm done with people believing that because her mom is doing that to her at a young age she will end up gender queer, transgender, or gay. There is not scientific evidence exhibiting this and nor is it true. I've seen this happen from personal experience. And are you kidding me ?There are better ways for them to acquire publicity! The fact that Brad and Angelina are mature enough to speak about this and realize it doesn't care what people say and think. You should be ashamed of yourself honestly. This literally your way of saying your homophobic and pushing your conservative view. Their family has a European lifestyle. This really should not be any of your business. I'm glad I don't have to deal with you in real life.
Jean Bakula from New Jersey on November 30, 2013:
Jay I don't think children have gender issues as early as two. I know boys will put on lipstick, because they see Mom do it, or imitate shaving, or whatever, because they see Dad do it. I think it takes a family time to assimilate a new child into the family, and that Jolie-Pitt add to the family at an alarmingly fast rate. It's so quick the kids don't have a normal, only a "new normal." Jolie tried to kill herself a few times as a teen, and has mental health issues.
I don't care if anyone is gay. My son wore African dashikis for a year when he was in High School. He was always a nonconformist. Had he been gay, he would have my unconditional support. In this case, you are looking at two rich people who don't even have much time to spend with all these kids anyway.
Jay on November 28, 2013:
Jean I feel so sorry for you. Its so obvious Jolie and Pitt ARE NOT pushing this on her I fear that you are blind. By allowing Shiloh to be who he/she wants to be, they are doing a better job at accepting their child than you obviously ever could. It is you that is missing screws. Poor old woman.
Jean Bakula from New Jersey on November 25, 2013:
It's a lot more serious than "girl colors" when a Mother is giving her daughter boy haircuts and dressing her in clothes for boys. That doesn't say "I love you and accept you." It says, "I don't accept you or like who you really are, I will change you into what I want you to be." She may get a lot of attention and hold a lot of positions, but Jolie is missing a few screws. The child is already messed up for life, as the character is established by age 3.
Amanda on November 25, 2013:
This author is completely insane. "Girl Colors", are you actually serious? It's people like this that sadly live their lives based on the opinions of the mases. But because you've been brainwashed by your mother, society, and the media, you automatically feel threatened because this challenges your ideals. Stop attacking Angelina Jolie and her perfectly normal kid, and focus on learning how not to be so judgemental and ignorant.
TheShytrovert from Tacoma, Washington on October 31, 2013:
Would not worry about it. If she's not gay, she will grow out of it. If she is gay, so what? And if it turns out she actually is a boy in a girl's body, again, so what? By the time she's old enough to have gender reassignment the parents can pay and the procedure will be well advanced. I am thankful we live in a world where children like Shiloh CAN express themselves. Shutting her down and forcing a female identity on her would be a set up for future mental issues.
Mikey on July 11, 2013:
Wow a lot of people here don't seem very educated about trans issues. If she's just a tomboy then big whoop. It's not a story that's going to "haunt" her I mean Christ. If however, she is actually he or a mix of the two, then it is not uncommon for children that young to be exhibiting signs that they are not comfortable with the gender that was assigned to them at birth. However rare people might want to believe it is, that doesn't make it a reality. I identify as male and I was born female. Now, this has nothing to do with "wanting" to be male, I just always have been, at least mentally. When I was two and I went clothes shopping, my mom would buy me dresses and other typically girly things. While I usually didn't mind those things as I didn't identify different prices of fabric with gender roles (because it is just a really strange concept) but I would always fight back when my mom made comments about how I was a "cute little girl." I would then cry and rant and tell her that I was a boy and I didn't want people to think I was a girl. It all depends on the child. Who cares? Some people have fluid genders that are constantly changing. Maybe John will decide to be Shiloh later on and then go back to being John. It doesn't matter. As long as the kid is happy, it's no ones business.
IzzyM (author) from UK on April 29, 2012:
You too, Jean :) The breakdown in society through lack of discipline and order in the home is a hub in itself, or perhaps several!
Jean Bakula from New Jersey on April 27, 2012:
I am. But since he works with so many young children, I see many of these issues as a lack of, not maybe discipline, but no sense of order and routine, something children need to thrive. Even our teachers in the schools don't expect the kids to have manners, or finish their work, but they keep telling the kids they are "good." They aren't. They are bad, rude and selfish. Brad and Angie should slow it down. She's been in psych wards of hospitals several times. Take care.
IzzyM (author) from UK on April 27, 2012:
Thanks for some support, Jean, I have had a few really nasty comments on this forum, but I stand by my own original thoughts, not those of some new world psycho-babbling modern day thought-police.
Your son sounds like he has turned into a really thoughtful and caring adult. You must be so proud!
Jean Bakula from New Jersey on April 27, 2012:
I'm with you on this one. Angie and Brad need a good kick in the ass. If Shiloh is experiencing gender issues, I don't think she would start at 2. And then they should be protecting her, not telling the whole world until Shiloh is old enough to decide for herself. When kids are pre-teen, they look a bit androgenous. My son always wore long hair, below his shoulders, and resembles me. So we would go out together, and people would say, "Hi Ladies." He wore African Dashikis (dresses) in summers. But he's clearly a man now, and it was never a question of gender indentity. He was one of those people who loves to shock people, and see how far he could push them. He is gentle and patient, and is a teacher who works well with young children, like 4 or 5. Some people have a gender stereotype about a man teaching kids that young, but the kids, and administration, love him. He's not afraid to gently discipline his class, and it's more orderly. I remind him that we, as parents, were always patient and let him express himself. There's a difference between letting a child be who they are, and adding to any confusion they may have. I'm writing a series about Famous people of Astrology signs, and Angie's past is very unstable. I don't think she's a fit parent. Nobody can keep up with one new child a year, they aren't getting much attention from Brad or Angie, just photo ops. Who knows which servant is influencing them? I understand not being a girly girl, I never played with dolls and hate pink. But enough BS already. Good piece.
Awesome on August 17, 2011:
SHES 4 YEARS OLD LET HER HAVE FUN .
I USE TO BE A TOMBOY AND ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A BOY NOW IM GROWN UP AND LOVE BEING A GIRL.
LIKE SERIOUSLY LET HER HAVE FUN
IzzyM (author) from UK on July 22, 2011:
Charli, the problem is NOT that she wants to dress like a boy - God knows I myself as a child dressed and acted like a boy - the problem is that her parents used this as media fodder. It was a story they could sell. It was more publicity for them. When will people realise that Hollywood stars are out of their box? Everything is media, publicity, money, but bringing their own children into it is a step too far IMO!
Charli on July 22, 2011:
She wants to dress like that let her, I dont see anything wrong with it. I dress like boy and there's nothing wrong with me.
sarah on July 15, 2011:
omg! most of you dont know what you're talking about.I have a 6yr old and since the age of 4 she has wanted to BE a boy. I have gone through every emotion going. and have listened to all opinions out!! including mothers who really need to be concentrating on they're own children not critising mine.At first it was difficult,as i couldn't understand why she wouldn't wear tights skirts bunches in her hair.When i realised that she REALLY didn't want to wear these things,and that she wasn't just being akward.I knew it was deeper and part of her character and make up.wanting to play with the boys,dressing like boys,even giving herself a boys name to people she`d just met(obviously thinking she could get away with it)! even begging me to pretend she was a boy infront of new people.that i draw a line at! Anyway to say that Angelina is doing it for just publicity sake is just rubbish.I personally didn't want any of this,and when people say,oh just dress her in girls clothes,its not as easy as that.Id have one miserable girl on my hands,infact i wouldn't get her out the door.to her it would be like someone telling you to dress in a clowns outfit,and pretend that you're comftable in it(maybe some of you would be) ive learned to accept her for what she is,and i dont make a big deal of it..just wish other people would do the same. shes doing very well at school,is a happy child and is well loved. her name is ruby,pretty isn't it? so is she..x
LikeaBoss on June 18, 2011:
OH boy a little girl wants to be a boy throw a damn fit about it why don't you.
She's four if she want's to pretend to be a boy and dress up like a boy AND have a boy haircut who gives a damn? People are so excited over a child's sexual or gender identity they forget their children with imaginations and pretending to be a boy is no big deal. When I was five I wanted to be called ryan and I used to ask my grandparents to cut my hair short and buy me boys clothes. I was a bit tomboyish, I liked playing football, and when I did play with my dolls I usually had them fighting kungfu or wrestling.
At 24 I still like dressing in men's clothes and wearing short haircuts but I go by my given name and I'm still a girl who didn't get a sex change.
There's no need to jump the boat, she could just be a tomboy which is just fine, and if she does grow up to want to be a boy who cares?
George. on June 15, 2011:
You know what, nope, your disgusting uneducated, ill-socialised views don't even belong in the cesspools of the internet.
John is fully capable of expressing herself, and she in no way should be repressed by people like you who think that gender identity is just a joke. This article is sickening and disrespectful to the community, most trans folk don't get to express their feelings because people think its a joke like you do, obviously they know John is serious about it. I'm glad that they are embracing zir like that, I mean, god forbid that a child expresses itself! publicising it is only helping the community understand other walks of life, I'm so glad that they are proud of John and they want to show people that they are perfectly fine with zir being whoever zir wants! So what if in zir older years zir might be male, female or something in-between, she's had the privilege of sorting out what she wants in life and isn't being held back by the disgusting typical image of what people of her sex feel like they need to conform to.
Come back when you know something about gender identity, you disgusting pig!
Sky on June 14, 2011:
The writer should learn to use proper grammar before giving their opinions oh how others should raise their children. Shiloh may be a "Tomboy" or he could in fact be transgender. Whatever the case it's obvious that the parents aren't forcing this child to dress as a male against his will, they are simply supporting his creativity and individuality.
IzzyM (author) from UK on May 28, 2011:
I have just been reading about the Canadian couple who want their children to express themselves and not be boxed into boy/girl roles. Their two little boys -ages 5 and 2, I believe, express themselves as girls with one wearing pigtails and pink dresses, while their latest baby, aptly named Storm, has caused a storm by their refusal to say if it is a boy or a girl. I have never in my life read such trollop! These people just like attention and they have drawn attention to their family, just like Angelina Jolie and her husband. What the Hell does it matter if a boy is brought up as a boy, or a girl is brought up as a girl. That is the natural way of the world. And in today's modern society, no-on bats an eyelid if someone turns out to gay or transsexual. Adults can do what they like, but for God's sake, leave the little children alone.
Kate on May 27, 2011:
oh, someone has certainly never had any gender identity issues. If you had, you wouldn't have been such a judgemental bitch with this article.
There is nothing wrong with what Pitt and Jolie are doing. They are allowing their child to express their gender and being supportive parents.
What you are doing by writing this "article" is absolutely terrible. People like you and all your judgements make society a worse place.
And yes, children can and do have concepts of gender and how they want to dress, as young as 2 and 4.
K. on February 09, 2011:
Why does it matter?
It continually irritates me that society thinks it's important to enforce distinctive 'female' and 'male' roles on young children in order to bring them up properly. If Shiloh wants to dress like a boy, then there is no harm in that. Forcing a child into a gender role they are not comfortable with is not 'bringing them up correctly.' It is FORCING your child into something that may not be ideal for them. It is not important to conform to these roles, especially not as a four year old. As long as the child is happy, why does it matter.
What great, henious crime are they committing? They are merely letting their child develop a sense of individual identity. Who knows, Shiloh may be transgendered - she may grow up and realise she is a boy. Or, she might grow out of it, or just remain a boyish girl for her life. NONE of those things are bad or wrong. It's merely the closemindedness of society that leads people to believe it is.
Lida on November 26, 2010:
My daughter is exactly the same (now 9). She deicided in a very eraly age to dress like a boy and I had no chance to dress her in anything else. Try to dress a child who is screeming on the floor that the dress you are about to give them is nothing they will ever put on themselves. At the age of 3 we had to let her decide in the store wht she is /or not going to wear and what we have to buy. Ohterwise, she would prefere running naked on the street. ...... who never had this experience can't understand.
Sigh on November 19, 2010:
"She is being taught firstly that she can get what she wants. " Funny, other people are saying Angelina is doing this for publicity...
"abelling a young child in the eyes of the world's Press" What are you doing exactly by drawing attention to her with this story?
Rachael on November 18, 2010:
Kids sometimes like to get attention by doing things that are out of the ordinary. She may either be trying to get the attention of her parents or she may just be a tom boy. I feel that her parents should have the little girl embrace who God has made her and love who she is as a little girl. I hope that Angelina is not encouraging her daughter to be this way subtly because she wants to have all types in her family. The little girl is to young to know if she is gay or not and I think the parents should be careful as to encourage something. I think Angelina hopes that Shiloh will be gay so she can later say she is proud of her daughter no matter what. I really think Angelina has been encourageing this behaivor in little ways and Shiloh gets the attention from it and so the little girl is soaking it up big time. I hope not though as that would be wrong...big time....
Tina Kachan from Europe, Croatia on November 11, 2010:
Glad we´re on the same page here :)Anyhow, cute kid, she is gonna be a beautiful girl someday. Ahhh, with parents like that..;)
IzzyM (author) from UK on November 11, 2010:
You are so correct Tina! Maybe we should blame ourselves for buying the magazines and newspapers that are carrying this type of story.
Tina Kachan from Europe, Croatia on November 10, 2010:
The press is really getting out of hand more with each day.
I can`t imagine what will be in 10 years if this kind of headlines continue to appear. In this aspect the society is going down the hill right now.
IzzyM (author) from UK on October 11, 2010:
It is not the dressing of Shiloh in boy's clothes that is wrong, it is simpering to the Press about how she wants to be a boy. What is this child being taught here, even if she does want to wear boy's clothes? She is being taught firstly that she can get what she wants. well probably her parents are rich enough to afford everything for her (which is a whole new can of worms because children need to learn they cannot have everything they want). Secondly, she is being taught that any publicity is good publicity. When she grows up a bit she may realise that it is not.
I do not think girls need to be dressed as girls and boys as boys, but I'd be very wary about labelling a young child in the eyes of the world's Press. The Press are animals - they are out to sell stories and the more outrageous the better, but unfortunately people tend to get hurt in the process. This little girl is going to be stuck with this label for years to come, and it is all thanks to her mum. If she'd quietly got on with letting Shiloh dress whatever way she wants and kept shtum the Press wouldn't have had a story to have a field day with. This is part of family values. Maybe Angelina's mum never taught her them? Who knows?
At some stage in the near future I will take this article down, as I do not want to perpetuate the story to Shiloh's detriment.
J.A. on October 11, 2010:
I perused this article out of curiousity but now I am so annoyed I had to comment. I really don't like abusing people but what is with this argument? Its stereotypical and old, give me real reasons why it is wrong to wear boys clothes. Girls who wear 'girly' clothing don't necessarily grow up as well adjusted people.
This quote in particular 'Obviously celebrity parents just love the limelight on themselves or their families. To go along with Shiloh is madness. It is a parent’s job to bring children them up and teach them values, teach them right from wrong, and steer them on the best possible course in life.'
THe comment on celebrities may be true, but what values are we refering to here? What is right from wrong according to this article? What is the best possible course in life? If you can give me solid answers to these questions then I might believe it.
Listerino on September 19, 2010:
She's just a tomboy wanting to be like her brothers and there's nothing wrong with that. It's been stated in interviews that although there was a STAGE where she wanted to be called John she grew out of it. She likes to dress like that and I see no harm in it. She's only 4 and doesn't understand why people find it odd. To her they're just clothes. There's nothing wrong with Angelina and Brad going along with it. Sorry but I think you're being way too harsh on the girl. Just because she wants to dress like a boy doesn't mean she's a future Chastity Bono.
Anna Marie Bowman from Florida on September 18, 2010:
I agree with kaltopsyd! Kids will be kids, no matter what. Having worked with kids for most of my life, I have seen a lot of this sort of behavior. Girls that dress and act like boys, and boys that want to dress and act like girls. A vast majority of the time, they grow up to be perfectly normal. I hated wearing pink, wearing dresses, all that. Boys got to run around, get dirty, have fun. Girls have to stay neat, and look pretty. Having older brothers, she obviously looks up to them, tries to emulate them, etc. I grew out of all that hatred of dresses and the color pink. I love to get all dressed up now, and wear skirts quite often. More than likely, she will grow out of it. As for the publicity, you can't entirely blame the parents on that, either. Blaming every photo taken of the child on the parents is not only wrong, it's stupid and naïve. Photogs follow these people like packs of wolves. Should they lock themselves, and their children away in their house until they are all grown up? People are allowed to lead their own lives, and that includes celebs.
IzzyM (author) from UK on September 18, 2010:
It probably is just a phase, but one that is hard to come out off when the world's press is watching your every move.
kaltopsyd from Trinidad originally, but now in the USA on September 18, 2010:
Ms. Izzy, I love your response to ME. You're right about the pink denims. That's good idea. I didn't think of that one.
My mum just reminded me that I REFUSED to wear the skirt uniform in elementary school. If I did, I used to pin the skirt closed at recess. haha. The silly things we do as young children.
Maybe Shiloh's just going through a phase. She probably looks up to her brothers and wants to be like them.
IzzyM (author) from UK on September 17, 2010:
Oh dear is that you Angelina? Sorry no offence meant. Your daughter is beautiful :)
ME on September 17, 2010:
The writer of this article is retarded.
IzzyM (author) from UK on September 14, 2010:
Or even denims in pink! Just that little feminine touch could be added :)
kaltopsyd from Trinidad originally, but now in the USA on September 14, 2010:
Aww, she's still cute though. But DEFINITELY looks like a boy. I haven't see all those pictures. Wow. I thought that Angelina/Brad just dressed her that way; I didn't know that it was SHILOH who wished to be dressed that way. That's interesting. Thanks for updating me. I'm so out of the loop.
I say put the kid in a dress she may just like it.
IzzyM (author) from UK on September 05, 2010:
awww...that is sweet of you to say that Maria, and little Shiloh is gorgeous too :)
Maria on September 05, 2010:
I really love Angelina she got very big heart, I saw on news channel that she gave huge amount of money to flood victims. Angelina we love you God bless you.
IzzyM (author) from UK on August 17, 2010:
Thanks Polly. I think probably loads of pre-school children go through a phase like this, but most parents like you or I would not give in to their wishes...just as you said, you'd be embarrassed if folk saw your son in pink glittery shoes, but even more so, he'd be embarrassed when he grew up! We put our children first, unlike some celebs.
Polly C from UK on August 17, 2010:
I hadn't read this story before, but it made me think of the day last week when my little boy told me he wanted to be a girl! Actually he was quite serious, but we haven't paid a lot of attention to it - after all, he is only 2 and it all occurred because we had been to the park with a little girl, as far as I'm concerned.
Then I recall the time my older son was about three, we were shopping for shoes, and he insisted I buy him some pink glittery ones....I refrained, though (perhaps some people will think I should have gone along with his wishes?) It was really my own embarrassment I couldn't face, the thought of everyone looking at my son in pink shoes, as opposed to doing him any great damage. Anyway, he is now ten and couldn't be less girly if he tried. In fact, he is at that age where he doesn't like girls at all, except to tease!
Most things when a child is that young are only passing phases, so personally I wouldn't put too much emphasis on them. Of course, some children will go on to want to change gender (I saw a programme on this once) but most will probably not. Interesting hub, anyway :)
IzzyM (author) from UK on August 15, 2010:
Glad you agree, Emma. I am worried about the negative effect this could have on Shiloh as she grows up. A lot of celebrities are half-cracked anyway, and this pair probably aren't any different so most other celebs out there. Shiloh is a beautiful little girl who will no doubt one day grow into a beautiful woman, but who needs this kind of extra publicity following them around!
EmmaMedu on August 15, 2010:
Unvited Writer, I agree with you that we all dressed in pants. I remember my photos from childhood; I had a short hair and pants.
BUT, those pants were female pants and although I didn't look like the "real" girl, I didn't look like a boy either.
I think that parents should allow their children to express themselves reasonably. If a girl wants to be a boy, ok, let her be a boy for a week or a month. But, that's it. After that encourage the child to try something else.
I've been reading these stories about Shiloh for the past few months and to tell you the truth I also found it strange and over exaggerating. Those photos and stories didn't have so strong influence on me, because I consider myself as a younger mom (I’m 35 years old) and I'm more used to seeing things like this.
But, Izzy, I do agree with you on one thing. I think they are doing it for the publicity and some more money and definitely over exaggerating in making her look like the boy.
IzzyM (author) from UK on August 10, 2010:
Its all about publicity - and its very sad because little Shiloh will have to live with this daft label when she grows up.
Susannah Birch from Toowoomba, Australia on August 10, 2010:
Until girls reach approx ten, they ALL want to be boys - because being a girl means sitting still and being neat. It's part of growing up. Doesn't mean she wants a sex change. Silly Ange.
IzzyM (author) from UK on August 09, 2010:
You and me both, but Shiloh is dressed distinctly boyish. Look at the photo on the steps - it smacks of boy's clothes through and through. That's her mum dressed her like that.
I mean, yeah I always preferred jeans myself - I'm not a dress person, and I was tomboyish, but I think there is an issue here, and I think it's all got to do with publicity - after all there is no such thing as 'bad publicity' - but its at a little girl's expense and I think that is wrong.
Susan Keeping from Kitchener, Ontario on August 09, 2010:
I really don't see a problem. I always dressed in pants if I had the choice. Of course, there are a few pictures of me in a dress. I actually used to wish I was a boy when I was little, I was a major tomboy and I'm straight :) As it is now I rarely wear a dress.