The Accreditation Board of Engineering and Technology (www.abet.org) Trashes the University of Phoenix's Information Technology Accreditation Application
If you thought about enrolling in any of University of Phoenix's Information Technology programs, you might want to ask the Accreditation Board of Engineering and Technology (www.abet.org) why they threw away University of Phoenix's accreditation application in the garbage can. The University of Phoenix applied for accreditation with ABET back in July 2010 and after discovering fraud, ABET did not accredit the university's Information Technology programs after their investigation concluded January 2011.
The Accreditation Board of Engineering and Technology Might Possibly Claim That:
- University of Phoenix does not provide an adequate learning environment for its online and ground campuses to teach the concepts and practices of Information Technology/Computer Science.
- University of Phoenix does not implement the core principles of learning Information Technology/Computer Science concepts and practices for its students.
- University of Phoenix teaching materials are inadequate for university level teaching.
- University of Phoenix Information Technology faculty do not possess masters degrees from accredited universities, faculty does not have any real-world experience, therefore faculty should not be allowed to teach. In our findings ABET found evidence using a simple "Google" search that proved University of Phoenix faculty do indeed have points on their criminal background records.
With the above said, it is clearly true that the University of Phoenix operates only to collect money. Students are not learning anything, teachers pass/fail students at their will all in the "illusion" of making millions of dollars off of student loans in the background. if students fail, the University of Phoenix gets paid. If students pass, the University of Phoenix gets paid. When students graduate, the University of Phoenix still gets paid but the student is left with a worthless degree in which the student cannot apply what was learned at the University of Phoenix towards their career.
Companies Will Not Hire University of Phoenix Graduates Because Companies Do Not Believe in University of Phoenix's Practices On Student Cheating/Plagiarism
Isn't it quite obvious as to why company human resources do not hire job candidates with University of Phoenix degrees? Tell me, if you were a hiring manager, would you rather hire a student who actually learned something in college or would you hire a student who went to a college that allowed cheating/plagiarism, even allowed the student to pass when the student actually failed, would you hire a job candidate from the University of Phoenix? I don't think so!
Intel - The Manufacturer of Computer Processing Microchips - Calls It Quits With University of Phoenix tuition reimbursement program
To make these claims quite more obvious, Intel, the company that makes computer processing chips for tablet computers, cellular phones, computers, smart televisions, etc., before Intel had a tuition reimbursement program with the University of Phoenix.
In Intel's findings, Intel learned that when their employees graduated from the University of Phoenix's Information Technology programs, their employees did not learn anything. Graduates of the program tried to apply what they learned at the University of Phoenix towards their job duties at Intel and none of those graduates of the University of Phoenix could not deliver.
Intel was being "robbed" by the University of Phoenix with the tuition reimbursement partnership program and you can about Intel's disappointments in this online article below:
Do you think ABET and Intel have something in common? Absolutely!
The University of Phoenix Will Not Release ABET's Findings
I graduated from the University of Phoenix's Bachelors of Science in Information Technology program back in July 2008 with a foolish 3.9 grade point average and I was not able to find a job in the computer science field. Perhaps ABET can explain to me why because the University of Phoenix will surely tell me that I did learn something. But to protect themselves from lawsuits, counter-lawsuits, and more lawsuits, ABET cannot release their reasons about why they did not accredit any of University of Phoenix's Information Technology programs. As a former graduate, I will have to phone the University of Phoenix and ask them why ABET threw away their accreditation application.
And do you think the university will release ABET's findings? Of course not. Do you think any lawyers will handle the case. No. Then the only solution is for students to hold up signs outside their local University of Phoenix ground campus so the media can get really involved this time and close down the #1 for-profit, private university in America.
I have all the emails saved from Beth Mundy, a spokesperson for ABET, and all those emails will be posted as .jpeg images into this article and she is the person whom I've been in touch with since I began looking into how the University of Phoenix messed up my career and my future. Beth simply stated that I would have to contact the school and ask them directly why their Information Technology programs were not accredited.
Richt1999 on October 17, 2015:
How do i become part of this lawsuit? $28k in debt with a BSIT degree and nothing to show for it. 3 years of my life was wasted on late night chat rooms.
Gaius Gracchus on April 29, 2015:
I received my BS and MS degrees in Computer Science from highly ranked universities, and have taken other coursework in the field at various other universities as well. I am quite familiar with both the CS and Iinformation Technology programs offered at various universities.
I checked into Phoenix University IT programs and found the coursework to be COMPLETELY different from the coursework normally offered at accredited universities. How they were ever accredited in IT is beyond me.
The coursework for a real CS degree is rather difficult - lots of math, computing theory, algorithms analysis, etc.. etc. (No, Photoshop is not part of the curriculum.) Even Information Technology degrees I investigated had very different requirements from the Phoenix 'degree'. The programs offered at Phoenix seem simplistic, easy, and incomplete - more like the level one would expect at a junior high or maybe beginning high school level classes.
And no, we would probably not consider a Phoenix graduate for employment here.
Gaius Gracchus on April 29, 2015:
I have a friend who is completing a Bachelor's in IT from Phoenix so I checked it out. My BS and MS degrees are from two accredited universities in Computer Science, and I am familiar with the general programs offered.
The coursework at Phoenix Univ. does not even REMOTELY resemble what we studied. It is astounding they ever were considered for accreditation given the simplistic, limited coursework they offer.
A real degree in Computer Science should include higher level math, loads of computing theory, algorithms analysis, etc. etc. that is not present in the junior high level courses we see offered at Phoenix.
It is a shame they get away with selling these 'degrees' as something equivalent to a real CS degree.
And you are right -- we would probably discount any applicants for jobs here with a degree in IT from Phoenix University.
Rob MacArthur on January 29, 2015:
In December 2014, I self-published a book called, “Online Education Fraud: The Diary of a Short Seller.” The book recounts part of my 20 year career in the investment business. I spent 15 years hunting and exposing fraud at for-profit schools, primarily University of Phoenix (UOP). There are new books on the market talking about the student loan bubble, which has become newsworthy recently, and a book or two about online fraud. My book is unique because I was very active in participating in the downfall of the industry. As you’ll read, I went from analyst to activist and a highly aggressive one at that. The book is sizzling with controversy and evidence of fraud. I have tape recorded interviews with former employees alleging fraud. I met with SEC investigators, DOJ investigators, and several other senior officials. I was quoted in several major newspapers, recognized as an expert. The book is also a good teaching tool for those interested in the stock market.
The book starts in 1998 with Computer Learning Centers (CLCX). The company was caught violating federal rules around a ban on commission sales. Using my evidence, the government raided the headquarters finding large quantities of documentation detailing the massive fraud. The company was caught shredding documents before investigators arrived. The Dept. of Education put them out of business by imposing a large fine. The second section of the book covers the history between 2001 and 2008. This section shows fraud at other schools and the evolution of government’s policy of enforcement or lack thereof. The rest of the book covers the 2009/2010 period in which one ambitious Department of Education employee and I teamed up to hunt the sector. The questions we raised and the evidence we found often fell on deaf ears. Finally, in 2009 Obama appointed an Undersecretary of Education who knew about the fraud. He went after the industry, nearly destroying it.
JKG1981 on April 11, 2013:
I wish I knew about this before I completed the my IT degree from UOPHX. I had a feeling that the companies that I applied to for the past 1 1/2 years did not want to hire a Phoenix IT grad because of the quality of the degree even though I felt like I did work hard on it. Now I am scammed out of $30 grand and I wasted 3 years of my life for nothing. I want to be part of the lawsuit (if there ever is one) especially since I was lured to them because I am an Army vet!