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Did The Illegal Criminalization of Marijuana Lead To The Downfall of America?

Hemp or Kind Bud

I couldn't resist taking this picture of my neighbor's garden a couple of years ago, when I discovered among his tomatoes were miniature marijuana plants, only a foot tall but with some juicy buds!

I couldn't resist taking this picture of my neighbor's garden a couple of years ago, when I discovered among his tomatoes were miniature marijuana plants, only a foot tall but with some juicy buds!

Why was Marijuana made Illegal?

A recent job interview ended in an unusual fashion, although I had no intention of working for this company, it ended with a discussion Did The Illegal Criminalization of Marijuana Lead To The Downfall of America?.

The interviewer gave me a tour of their facilities which only reinforced my decision, not to take the job, I tried to keep an open mind and be polite. He asked me all the normal questions and concluded the interview by asking me if I would be willing to consent to a drug test.

I told him I would, even though I didn't agree with the policy and this is what happened next!

He said "Oh Really and why is that?"

I told him, that although I agreed that drugs in the work place was not a good idea, what a person does on their own time is their business.

He asked me if I thought marijuana should be legalized, hmmm interesting way to continue the discussion!

I could have ended things there, but always willing to enlighten the sheeple, I said . . .

"I think the criminalization of marijuana was illegal in the first place and in essence has lead to the downfall of America."

The look on his face was priceless and well worth enduring the insipid interview process!

He said "Oh really?" He seemed to really like that word! Evidently it can be used when one has nothing clever to say . . . and may lead to another hub entirely!

"Yes, really!" I responded giving him the chance to end things right then and there, but he took the bait, as I knew he would. (how smug of me)

He responded by saying he wasn't aware that making drugs illegal was a criminal act!

So I endeavored to enlighten him on the subject, since most people simply are unaware of the real reasons marijuana was made illegal. Hell, most people think that it wasn't criminalized until the late sixties when it became popular. (oh contrare!, I think that's French)

I told him that the conspiracy to make Hemp illegal began in the early thirties, by such rich and powerful men as the Dupont's, William Randolph Hearst, John D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan and Andrew Carnegie and asked him if he had heard of any of these men?

He said that he had and added "In the thirties? Are you sure?" At this point we had sat back down and I got comfortable as I now began the process of reeling in the sad sucker!

I said "Oh yes, quite sure, feel free to look it up. Hemp, Marijuana or Reefer as it was referred to then was made illegal in 1937 due to it's wide variety of uses."

"What do you mean wide variety of uses, it's a drug! It is used to get stoned with, that is the only use I know of!" he said, getting a little emotional.

I chuckled setting the hook a little deeper and said " Hemp has been used for thousands of years in the production of rope, sails for ships and clothing, not to mention the seeds are very high in protein which can be eaten and the plant can be used for natural medicinal purposes."

"Yeah, but how does that relate to this so-called conspiracy!"

Hmmm, evidently critical thinking wasn't his strong suit, so being the intellectual snob that I am, I reminded myself to talk slowly as I was enjoying this.

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" Well", drawing the word out "Andrew Carnegie owned the first large Steel company in the US, and because he also owned a fleet of steamships and railroad cars, he had what is commonly known as a monopoly, which of course is supposed to be illegal in this country."

"Yeah, so!" he interjected getting a little more emotional. At this point I almost felt sorry for him, almost as I was having too much fun to stop now.

"The Rockefellers had monopolized the oil industry here in America, by basically using horizontal integration to run their competition out of business." Uh oh, I quickly realized I had used some words that were more than two syllables and had lost him, darn!

I reminded myself that there is a reason those Dummie books are so popular and to tone down the big words. Not wanting to spoil the fun, I quickly continued with my history lesson . . .

"The Hearst Empire was mostly built on the production of paper manufacturing, as William Randolph owned vast tracts of timberlands in the US and Mexico." Seeing the dull stare in his eyes, I continued to elucidate, "Before wood was used for the production of paper, Hemp was the preferred plant of choice as it was much sturdier and lasted longer and didn't take twenty years to grow like a tree did." I had gotten him back, whew that was close.

"Dupont, you know paint and varnishes, they used oil products to create their chemicals?"

" Yes? "

" Well his main competitor at the time Sherman Williams used Hemp seeds to produce their paint and varnishes. " Recognition returned, so I hurried on " Well Dupont also had patented the processes for using oil to create plastics, cellophane, methanol, ect. . . . I could see that he was making the connections and with it came confidence.

"Yeah that's all well and good but you mentioned J.P. Morgan how did he . . .

and I finished his thought for him " In 1901 Carnegie sold his monopoly to a group of investors lead by J.P. Morgan for 500 million dollars (a lot of money back then and now), who has often been linked to the Rockefellers and Rotheschild's banking empire."

" So do you see how the plant Hemp could have effected all these rich men's strangle hold on industry here in America at the turn of the last century? "

" Well yes, but . . . how did . . . " and he trailed off allowing me to do his thinking for him. I thought WOW, television and conditioning worked really well as he was unable to complete the thought on his own!

"All these rich folks realizing that Hemp could derail their monopolies set about using Hearst's Newspaper Empire to spread the disinformation or 'Reefer Madness' (a movie made in the 30's) to the public. Since most of America was poorly educated back then, they simply believed everything that was printed as the gospel truth. Not so different today is it?" The sarcasm escaped his clever wit or he simple ignored it!

Anyway I went on " They used their political connections to get a bill passed into legislation through the Ways and Means Committee, which effectively bypassed any debate on the matter in Congress.

I summed it all up for him by connecting the dots, before the discovery of oil and it's subsequent by products and before the invention of among other things the Cotton Gin and the process that allowed wood to be turned into paper, the plant Hemp was used.

" Yeeaah, but I don't get how that relates to the steel industry!" he said waving my explanation off with a smile on his face.

" Ahh, I was hoping you would ask me that. When Henry Ford began producing his famous Model-T's in the early 1900s he built the car to run on hemp gasoline which burned more cleanly and got better fuel efficiency than gasoline. He also constructed the entire car itself from a fiber type process made from Hemp that allowed him to mold it into any shape he wanted. This process created a structure that was TEN times more impact resistant (stronger) than steel. One of the by products of this process was an oil that did not break down when heated which he used as a lubricant for all the moving parts! "

" So you see, Henry Ford was not only going to be able to mass produce his cars using a renewable energy source, Hemp only takes about five months to grow to maturity, but he was going to be able to provide the fuel, oil and manufacture of these cars themselves from one source that didn't pollute the environment, while providing jobs for millions of people, not too mention all the farmers that would be able to sell to him, as Hemp grows in every state in the US including Alaska! "

He was stunned as the wheels began to turn slowly in his brain. He mumbled something to the effect of " I had no idea, how did this not get into the history books . . . "

I continued to fire for effect with " Carnegie invested his millions if not billions into universities and education, libraries, hospitals and trailed off as I realized he was too stunned to absorb any new information. "

I fired one remaining salvo to get his attention " Did you know? " Knowing full well he didn't have a clue " That it was actually illegal in America in the late 1700's NOT to grow hemp as it had so many uses, including medicinal purposes! "

" What . . ." he stammered!

" Yup, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin all grew hemp, until the Cotton Gin was invented, 80% of all textiles were made from Hemp."

I continued to regale him with it's uses as we got up, " Betsy Ross's Flag, Bibles, The Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution, all the major works of art from the Renaissance were painted or printed on Hemp canvass or paper. "

"You could even pay your taxes in Hemp, try doing that now! " We both laughed and shook hands.

"WOW", he said " I had no idea!" and he began walking me out the front door completely forgetting about why I was there.

As I got ready to leave he suddenly remembered my purpose for being there and rather sheepishly (excuse the pun) asked if I was interested in the position.

I politely turned down the offer and the look of gratitude that spread across his face, is still ingrained in my memory. Over all a very good interview as I believe we were both left enlightened.

He got a brief history lesson on the real reasons Marijuana was made illegal . . .

Because Billionaires have one thing in common they want to remain Billionaires and don't care who they screw to do it!

And me you ask, Well I have the proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that the conditioning of the Sheeple is working . . . ah you gotta love America!


A little Taste of Reefer Madness

Marijuana Leaf

For identification purposes

For identification purposes

Hemp Seeds are 'High' in Protein

When so many are starving and the use of Hemp (marijuana) seeds could be use to feed so many, we allow our greed and prejudice confuse the real issues!

When so many are starving and the use of Hemp (marijuana) seeds could be use to feed so many, we allow our greed and prejudice confuse the real issues!

Now For the Point of the Article

Now granted I took a little artistic license with above mentioned interview, however it basically happened in that manner. The real point of this article is to allow others to ponder the real reasons marijuana was made illegal and promoted as a dangerous drug. When in doubt follow the money, at least it works on this planet.

Initially my thinking was that those that import the drug make billions of dollars on a tax free income and would be loath to give that up. Hell, if you were able to import it by the ton, you could easily spend millions on bribes to keep marijuana illegal.

Upon further research and when I learned that it had been made illegal in the 30's, I realized that there was obviously more to the story. That is when I began researching the topic in earnest and then came across some mind boggling claims, that unfortunately made perfect sense. Heck, back in the day when I smoked the stuff, I had no idea it had so many uses!

I find it somewhat ironic that after smoking pot for 27 years almost everyday, that after getting sober almost seven years ago I now would be writing an article about how its many uses, besides the most obvious one, are actually beneficial to mankind.

That the actual real reasons for it's criminalization have nothing to do with the fact that when smoked gives one a euphoric sensation and has an actual calming effect.

Was I in for a shock, as it turns out it was the wonder plant that surpassed all other plants in terms of uses, even down to providing a very high protein food source. What is even more amazing is that it has physical characterizations unlike any other plant on the Planet and some researchers have even gone so far as suggesting that it is an Alien life form.

What I have learned is that the differences from other plants is it's unmistakeable female/male orientation. Meaning that it has two distinct sexes that are easily determined by the naked eye! All that being said I would like to explain the how and why of it's criminalization.

The why as mentioned above, is because according the governments own sources it is a plant that has a wide variety of uses, takes little time to grow (five months), and can be grown in any climate hot or cold. Because of this and it's ability to be manufactured into a fuel source can replace fossil fuels (gasoline), plastics (rope), textiles (for clothes), steel (for construction), medicine (pharmaceuticals), paper (trees) and the list goes on and on.

According to a USDA Bulletin #404 it produces 4 times more pulp than trees while producing 7 time less pollution when manufactured. It produces a higher quality fiber than wood and takes one twentieth the time to grow, while not causing whole landscapes to erode or deplete the air of valuable oxygen as deforestation does.

According to the AMA, before 1937 when marijuana was made illegal, it has two essential fatty acids that cleanse your body of cholesterol. The seeds of the plant are high in protein and could serve to rid the planet of much of the starvation that it currently endures. (100,000 people a day starve to death)

It is currently now prescribed to chemo patients because it causes it's users to get the munchies and chemotherapy makes eating a nauseating process, hmmm!

As to the how marijuana was made illegal was through a time honored process known today as disinformation and media hype, sound familiar?

The Powers That Be (filthy rich) realizing that Hemp could bust up their monopolies, created a campaign to misinform the public and label Hemp as Marijuana, before the 1930s no one used the term marijuana outside Mexico. The American Medical Association (AMA) didn't even realize that Marijuana and Hemp were one in the same, until it was too late.

Those that did testify against its criminalization, even admitted before the Ways and Means Committee that they had no idea that Hemp had been labeled as Marijuana, so clever was the deceit. The misdirection and outright lies served the elites purpose well and a bill was passed allowing for the criminalization of Hemp without any debate in Congress.

As for my own personal experience with the drug, I can say now after being sober for seven years, that I never considered the drug addicting. I have been addicted to alcohol, crack cocaine and cigarettes and of the three have eliminated two, but cigarettes is an addiction I have been unable to break.

Although I smoked marijuana almost everyday for 27 years I could take it or leave it as it had no physical or mental cravings that I was aware of. It actually served to help in my creative processes, did not affect my coordination in anyway and I played many sports high with no adverse affects. I never got a hangover or missed work due to smoking pot and have never experienced what others call paranoia.

However it is not for everyone and if it has any adverse or negative effects on any one else, then I suggest a simple solution . . . . don't smoke it!

I have heard it is considered the gateway drug and to this assertion I would ask . . . How many people have done completely insane things on alcohol (legal) or cocaine that they would never even consider while sober or smoking pot?

A pot smoker is less likely to get off the couch to find the remote than he is to beat his wife or get behind the wheel while intoxicated.

There is a drugstore in every town in America, but the only drugs you can buy there are the ones made for you by the very people that have made marijuana illegal.

So while the War On Drugs continues with no end in sight, did allowing this piece of legislation to pass with no debate, actually lead to the downfall of America?

Consider for a moment what it has caused to happen;

• Pollution on a world wide scale, not just in America.

• Becoming dependent on a finite fuel source from mostly foreign imports.

• Inflation due to an inability to become self sufficient.

• Crime in our cities due to the criminalization of a natural resource.

• Farmers inability to raise a cash crop.

• The rise in health care mostly due to obesity and inflated drug prices.

• Deforestation from the need for trees in the manufacture of paper products.

• Millions of jobs lost due to the criminalization of one plant.

• Allowing the monopolies to continue to make policy in America.

• Cheaper more cost efficient products that actually biodegrade, cutting down on garbage.

• The rise in prices of pharmaceuticals.

Ask yourself, does anyone really know what is in those drugs? I know I don't, how many of your friends or family members takes some sort of pharmaceutical on a daily basis.

The bottom line is they want you to spend money on drugs, but just the ones they make and can control.

Perhaps being sober has allowed me the clarity of mind to write this article and I did so to keep my readers pondering and exploring new ideas and concepts to old problems!

So in conclusion it is hard to say whether the Illegal Criminalization of Marijuana Lead to the Downfall of America, but it certainly has taken many jobs away from the working class.

Illegal Criminalization of Marijuana


We need to force a popular vote now!

We need to force a popular vote now!


Pamela Jason on April 23, 2017:

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sensualspirit from Overseas, but back to the US soon on December 05, 2016:

Oh, that's strange, why wouldn't they want to know which articles are doing well & which ones aren't?

I also thought that's how you make money.

I've followed you at least for future articles.

Thanks blue : )

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 03, 2016:

Hub Pages has changed a lot, you used to be able to do that. I'm glad you learned something new, that is what makes writing articles like this one worth while, if folks learn something new.

sensualspirit on December 02, 2016:

Thanks for the article blue.

While I knew a lot, you did teach me some things.

I wish I knew how to give a thumbs up for articles on here. I've had an account for years, but never used it & I can't find any icon that allows me to do that.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on March 07, 2016:

Had it not been illegally criminalized in 1937 it may very well have changed the entire social-economic culture of not just America but the entire world.

The Health Care benefits alone are staggering but consider an economy not dependent on oil, the creation of biodegradable cars, buildings, roads, food packaging, clothes, paper products. No plastics, no tin cans, no more metal what so ever.

Think of the millions of people that have died of cancer in the last 100 years alone, then add to that the massive amount of pollution from our oil based economy and infrastructure.

Our World could have quite the different place!

Nancy Yager from Hamburg, New York on March 07, 2016:

Yes, it lead to the downfall of America. If you look at it from the simple perspective of healing (my area of expertise), it is the cure for most cancers. It relieves anxiety thus, less mental illness. It actually cures muscle spasms and seizures. Can you imagine an America without just these 3 major health problems? No outrageous health care costs, no pain and no crazies to worry about. What would we do?

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TOM1963OZ on February 26, 2014:

10% down.

here is the extract

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 26, 2014:

10% of what? I'm not following you, please be more specific and I will make myself clear.

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on February 26, 2014:

10% where, up or down? Your comment is unclear.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 17, 2014:

The Akashic records, records history on every planet without embellishment, so the guilty parties will be prosecuted, I have no doubt.

As the planet Earth moves into the 5th dimension with those that are able to raise their vibrational frequency to match, the spiritually evil on this planet will be separated and left behind.

But what must be understood is we brought the remnants of the Nazis to this country for the specific purpose of allowing them to continue their regiment of terror on the American and World's public. Make no mistake this was the agenda of the New World Order to reduce the World's population so that after the Pole Shift they could rule supreme.

However all they have done is distinguish themselves as the guilty parties without prejudice, so the wheat may more easily be separated from the chaff.

These criminals will be punished in a much higher court than either of us can be a party too.

Yes, as we both know there is no money in a cure, so this knowledge like so much other knowledge will remain a secret.

TOM1963OZ on February 17, 2014:

In states with legal medical marijuana male suicides have gone 10% a anew university study has showed.

Imagine if a Pharma anti depressant was that good, it sowuld be on every channel. Basically the subversion of our medical system starting 100+ years ago is criminal.

Basically there methods have killed and lets be provactive and say essentially in the last 100 years murdered hundreds of millions.

Makes the Nazi's look tame, and they got tried at Nurmeburg.

maybe we need a trials for these present day criminals.

The crimes are on this scale.

Cancer is cured by marijuana, B17, Max Gerson, Liposomal Vit C, Dr Holts therapy , localised Sodium Bi-carb therapy, Herb Robert.

So many cures, so many suppressions , so many crimes.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 17, 2014:

The first big con was not the Fed but the fact that voting in America is rigged and has been from the outset, so with that information in mind . . . falling for the tired old paradigm of voting will change America falls on deaf ears.

It is designed to make the public think they have a say which they do not, although I do agree that the only way we can change America is to act.

We must change it by changing ourselves, our limited narrow minded perception of the world, must go! We can replace with creating a new paradigm of giving.

TOM1963OZ on February 16, 2014:

Your two major parties are just stooges for the 1%.

You need new parties and you need them now, mid term elections are 18 months away. Imagine they cannot open their mounts with someone demanding free hemp farming and free farmer seed collection.

We are a "money"society so show how hemp is on the money and these :monopolists have to go.

You were their first bug prize and they are working hard on the rest of us, outside the USA as well.

Same people rigged the federal reserve act and what a CON that was.

We can talk amongst ourselves but to change we have to act.

I have had so many conversations on hemp with most of the points in this article.

I often start with given me half and hour on hemp, but most likely I will shatter your view on the world.

We need hundreds of millions of these conversations.

Imagine the next mid term and you are threatened getting voted in not have a very progressive view on hemp.

Engaging people and being active make that either a fantasy or a reality.

Wrattystentee on March 06, 2013:

I used to acquire high on lifestyle nevertheless these days We have built up any resistance.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 22, 2013:

Thanks and it was fun to write as well putting the ignorant neo-conservative types in their intellectual place is always fun!

Stellar Phoenix on February 22, 2013:

This article is wicked! You obviously know how to keep a reader amused. Between your wit and your videos, I was almost moved to start my own blog (well, almost..hehe) Fantastic job. I really loved what you had to say, and more than that, how you presented it. Too cool! Stellar Phoenix

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 19, 2012:

Ah yes, Mr. Wilson and I are good friends.

Thanks for leaving such well written comments as that is very refreshing.

I recently was given much grief about leaving a comment that was constructive criticism but viewed as being negative, seems some writers are sensitive.

I don't expect folks to agree with me, just to keep an open mind and search for the truth for themselves.

Thanks again!

BothPartiesRCrook on December 19, 2012:

Well I'm 61 and had much experience with SSRI's and I know first hand how they can effect some people.

I have PTSD and all they offer me is Pharma poison, which is what actually brought on the PTSD after it had laid dormant for many years..... so how crazy is that?

I choose my own medicine and it works much better.

I see the potential for a shift but I fear the sheeple effect and sometimes wonder if anyone is listening.

Johns Hopkins just released an article on alternative cancer cures but I doubt we'll see anything about it on MSM.

I don't rememmber a major health organization doing that before so I'm guessing it's a step towards the new shift you mention.

I hope so!

Take care and nice to chat with you. BTW I'm a pal of Bill Wilsons in case you know him. lol

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 19, 2012:

I don't know how old you are but I do believe within the next twenty years many will be found and held accountable.

A New paradigm is being created right before our eyes as the public is awakening to the truth and those that have a good grasp on it are now beginning to think differently.

I believe the Polar Shift is an opportunity to level the playing field and create a new way to live out of the ensuing chaos.

Thanks for reading and leaving the link!

BothPartiesRCrook on December 19, 2012:

The Prison Industrial complex, the Pharmaceutical industry, oil corps, cotton industry, alcohol industry, drug smuggling cartels and more, all want it to remain illegal. Given that list it's quite obvious that we're talking trillions of dollars and they wont give it up. They all make huge campaign contributions to politicians nation wide (read bribes) and neither the businesses nor the politicians gives a hoot about the American public.

Here's a real kicker for you.

Everyone's talking gun control over these young people flipping out and committing mass murders but guns are definitely not the problem this link will show you why.

They all know exactly what's going on and how people are dying but they don't care one iota. Blood is on their hands but to them it's no big deal, because they didn't pull the trigger and what they do is perfectly legal.

I hope to see it all end in my lifetime but what pisses me off is, even if I do see it, I'll never see these @#&%$# held accountable for their actions.

Thanks for a great and informative article!

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 27, 2012:

Marijuana is only a slang term for hemp, there are three types of hemp plants two are for smoking one is for the use in rope, cloth, paper etc.

Your Sir are mistaken however it is not surprising as most of the gullible sheep in this world are easily mislead from years of conditioning.

Hemp farms are obviously related to pot farms as it is the same plant used for different purposes, it is sad that someone can be so easily deceived.

However that is exactly why I wrote this article to educate the sheep!

me on November 27, 2012:

Hemp has little to do with pot, if one looks at a field of hemp vs a field of smokable weed one will plainly see there is no mistaking the two. Hemp farms produce zero smokable weed so the issue of making hemp illegal and the issue of making smokable weed illegal are actually two different stories. Perhaps the author should dig a little deeper into the criminalization of smokable marijuana and realize hemp farms are in no way related to pot farms. This is a myth perpetuated in the stoner community as a means of garnering support for their cause. Do I agree it should be legal, yes, but do I buy into this propaganda any more than the other side, no. Racism more than big business contributed to the criminalization of smokable weed, big business dealt only with hemp.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 26, 2012:

Yeah growing it is the best way as you know what your getting.

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on November 26, 2012:

TBH I don't think people really take any notice of the law anyway. Most marijuana in the UK is not imported any more, it's grown in people's attics! Most of them hardly care about getting caught.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 26, 2012:

It is weird that it would drop about three weeks drastically and then spike dramatically now, without comments.

Maybe you could write an article about any pot initiatives in the UK to get public interest in it . . . you never know!

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on November 26, 2012:

Lol, funny you should say that - my traffic has hit the roof too but I'm getting few comments (and yes I have read it).

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 26, 2012:

I don't know but Colorado is my home state, it figures I would move away and they would legalize it.

Hey have you read my latest Nibiru Planet X weekly series November 25, 2012? It is going through the roof in page views but not one person has commented on it, hint , hint . . .

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on November 26, 2012:

Wow, what a move! I wonder if the UK will ever follow suit.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 26, 2012:

yep and Colorado also.

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on November 26, 2012:

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't marijuana just been made legal in Washington? I read a few days ago that citizens were now allowed to carry up to an ounce and could be in possession of as many as 6 plants (according to MSN News)!

Jen Card on November 25, 2012:

Yes I agree they are lousy comedians... time for a new show. It has been happening for hundreds of years. It sure is not the way this land or its people originally were like! Purple Canadian huh? Never heard of smoking a Canadian... interesting. hehehe

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 25, 2012:

Thank you Jen, I would like to stir the 'pot' with some Purple Canadian Thunder F_ck but alas the company I work for drug tests.

Yeah they knew it could single handily shut down many monopolies (oil, steel, paper), affect health care and stop world hunger, not too mention linen and textile companies.

It's a joke!

Jen Card on November 25, 2012:

You fascinate me! This was the "somethg out of the blue" I have been waiting for! Hemp, Maryjane, Pineapple Express... Whatever you want to call it, is a natural resource of this planet. To illegalize it was done for the sole purpose of the mighty dollar. This plant was here long before the invasion of this country and the discovery of its possible uses. The conspiracy started a long time ago and I believe it was possible the powers that be foresaw as far back as the 30's what this plant (which I repeat.... is a natural part of this planet) might cause the pharmaceutical companies in revenue. Which would not really even begin to tap into the trillions they make off keeping people sick! The herb does not need to be smoked, that actually harms the lungs. Tea gives off the same effectiveness. Whatever your preference of its intake is not important, it has helped so many that have life fatal and threatening illnesses. I am so tickled blue by this hub! You are a master my friend and one I hope keeps using the word to educate. Bravo! I say stir the pot that for so long has had a bitter taste, seasoned by those abusing the power they have obtained. You are bringing back the sweetness in life showing us all your passion. Kudos to you!!! EXCELLENT HUB!

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 16, 2012:

Thank you, Micky Dee . . . see if our education system were better this wouldn't be an issue, of course getting stoned before English class didn't help!

Micky Dee on November 16, 2012:

Oh by the way - I love your spelling and grammar.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 15, 2012:

Thanks Bugg, will you moving east to CO soon or does it really matter where we live as it is damn near legal in any state?

Let's face it The Powers That Be make sure we are readily supplied on all drugs legal or otherwise.

Bugg Adventures from Arizona on November 15, 2012:

Great article! Interesting and entertaining! I really enjoyed it!

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 14, 2012:

Thank you Rob however I hadn't realized I had reached celebrity status, is it my charming demeanor, my clever wit or my mature rebuttals, who's to say, certainly not I.

The key point is that one must stand up for what they believe in and one of those things is that playing nice is over-rated and usually for losers!

However I will be the first to admit that I could use some work in being more humble, practicing patience and tolerance and encouraging the conditioned masses to wake up and smell the lies, deceit and disinformation.

The human race is so much more than we outwardly display, we know the truth, we need to stop playing the victim and wallowing in denial waiting for some one or something to save us.

We need to save ourselves!

RobSchneider on November 14, 2012:

Controversy is king! I recently wrote a post on my travel blog in defense of Cambodia's PM Hun Sen and got an enormous traffic spike. I got some scathing criticism and wrote equally scathing rebuttals.

Sarita - somethingblue is something of a celebrity on Hubpages. He must be doing something right, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. :)

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 14, 2012:

Well, thank you for voicing your opinion, I've been working on both my grammar and spelling as I realize those are both areas I could get better at (oops did I just end a sentence in a preposition), darn!

However constructive criticism works much better if you are specific and less general.

If you had read the comments you would have noticed that every other commenter slammed JJ's stance as naïve and ignorant not just me and to be fair I then went and read at least five of her hubs and quickly realized why.

There is hope for her because she is young and can learn to grow up, but in essence she did me a favor as it created a controversy which allowed this article to spike in readership.

It was my first hub that reached 2,000 page views in very little time and taught me some valuable lessons about what it takes to succeed on Hub Pages, being nice is not required.

Many people do not understand or appreciate my humor but those that have lived at least a half century or have half a brain do, I'm sorry that you are neither, but guess what I'm over it.

Gotta go vote some of your hubs down but look on the bright side at least I will get you some page views! (howz that 4 mature!)

SaritaJBonita on November 14, 2012:

@somethgblue. At one point in your comments you patted yourself on the back for having so many hits on this blog, but then you questioned why it's HubScore was only 70. Perhaps it's because you belittle people when they disagree with you? I didn't even read through the second half of the comments because I was disgusted by the immaturity.

Everything you wrote is true and I agree, but I also agree with jjackson786. If you're going to write a Hub on such a vital topic, you should do it in a mature manner. Voted useful, but also voted down.

Oh, and your spelling and grammar both suck....

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 13, 2012:

thanks as my summaries tend to be bland unless of course I'm writing them for me.

Yeah I'm about halfway through them and it reminds me a lot of the Terra Papers by Robert Morning Sky, A prison planet explains a lot.

RobSchneider on November 13, 2012:

If it's fiction, it's brilliant fiction. How's this: "For most people all of this will be 'unbelievable'. Unfortunately, beliefs are not a reliable criteria for reality."

Worth reading even if you're a near brain-dead skeptic like me, if for no other reason than the quality of the writing.

Okay, I'll write a summary. Thanks. I forgot.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 13, 2012:

He was rich to begin with helping to make it illegal kept his deforestation project going strong.

I know you got to write to make a living, so please write a summary to your articles so when I link them to my vastly superior ones I don't have to.

Also this tidbit of information might prove worth reading

RobSchneider on November 13, 2012:

Yeah, well, making hemp illegal helped make me rich and that's all I care about. Sincerely, Wm. Randolph Hearst

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 13, 2012:

Illegal Criminalization of what many now believe is a plant that was introduced to this planet from outside the solar system.

Of course that subject alone could easily be another Hub entirely, considering the fact that this whole planet was formed and didn't evolve naturally allows room for this kind of speculation.

Hell, MJ alone could solve the world hunger problem!

thanks for commenting

Sam Heckle on November 13, 2012:

Thank you so much for posting this Blue. I have spent countless hours researching the benefits of hemp, as well as attempt to find what little evidence I can for the reason it should remain illegal. Yet, I have never taken a deeper look into how it became illegal in the first place. Plain and simply though, Marijuana is literally the safest "drug" on the planet, can potentially make the U.S. economy much much stronger, and is an extremely environmentally friendly alternative to many things we use daily. Those reasons alone justify legalization. It's a shame to see so many ignorant people in the United States who support is criminalization.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on November 01, 2012:

Thanks KT, speaking of making trouble that article is getting a lot of well deserved attention.

This used to be my highest Hub in terms of page views but has been recently doubled by my Pineal Gland article and many other Nibiru Planet X articles

KT Banks from Texas on November 01, 2012:

I read and commented on the Hub, months ago, but I have found myself thinking about it often. I've often wished I had printed it off to give to people. So, now - with your permission, I will.

I love how informative it is, but I also really enjoy the wit and sarcastic humor you show.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on October 31, 2012:

Thank you Micky I wish I could become a good enough writer to make a living at this but still enjoy my day job which drug test, so all I can do is continue to use the four Universal Laws of attraction, intention, allowance and balance to begin to create the world I live in to a one of my own making!

Micky Dee on October 31, 2012:

God bless you for this posting. People refuse enlightenment but the same love rhetoric and power usually not earned.

You are right in wanting to legalize hemp. Obama's store buys it from Canada.

I will surely take it further and say that the smoking herb should also be legalized. It has never harmed anyone. It may have made some folks "too" aware toward temporary paranoia.

But if anything - ALCOHOL should be illegal or very strictly controlled.

Why do bars have parking lots?

It is money, money, money, lobbyists and money.

Cannabis has too many positive contributions to mankind to be illegal. Alcohol is a poison. That is the high. A person poisons themselves for a high. One should only need to ask AA members.

Smoking cannabis is a better PTSD drug than all the Veterans Administration can offer.

But back to hemp - part of the illegalizing of hemp was for profits from oil. It is an ignorance and insanity to keep hemp out of America and to only import it. Our founding fathers grew it.

God bless you for your love for truth.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on August 05, 2012:

Agreed and as more and more states allow for medicinal marijuana I suspect we will begin to see exactly that.

non12stepguide23 from California on August 03, 2012:

You made some great points. If marijuana use was decriminalized and non-prescription use made legal, we would see a significant drop in drug-related crime in the U.S.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 04, 2012:

Agreed, seems we misunderstood each other, which happens!

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on April 04, 2012:

I do know all of this. Yes, I read the article and I don't disagree with it. I am all for the legalization of it. 110%!! Keeping it illegal is going to ruin this country. The people that could be working in textiles, clothing, food, fuel and other industries would be able to work. So many people it should end unemployment problems and expand the tax base greatly. However, govt is too well paid off by big business to use common sense.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 03, 2012:

Did you read the article? Hello . . .

Americans could pay their taxes in Hemp for many years, our founding Fathers were all Hemp growers, it was used for clothing, sails, rope, food, oil, medicine and the list goes on for thousands of years.

Henry Ford was going to revolutionize its use in creating plastics, varnishes, paints, solvents, construction materials, paper and Big Business shut him down.

Making it illegal wasn't about Mexicans using it to get high, it was about breaking up the monopolies of Big Oil, Big Steel and Paper products, getting high was just an excuse.

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on April 03, 2012:

I think for my self, however not all books are written by "the man". The history of marijuana becoming illegal is in more than just books. During WWII hemp was allowed to be grown for military use, after the war it was once again illegal. Back in the 30's the southwest was put on the front lines of the conspiracy because of Mexican population use of the plant. However it became illegal, it is wrong for the govt to keep it that way. It's only because big businesses can't control it, they will lose money if it is legal. Money is at the front of all the reasons it still is illegal.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 03, 2012:

I already have and history books are for those of us unwilling to think for themselves, do you have a need for others to do your thinking for you?

History books are for suckers, who do you think writes the History?

The man in charge, so he is in effect telling you what to think, feel free to believe what ever you are told to believe, I ain't buying it!

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on April 03, 2012:

Read your history, you'll find that I'm telling it like it is.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 02, 2012:

Sorry Geordmc ain't buying that explanation, the US doesn't need that excuse to deport illeagal Aliens.

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on April 02, 2012:

It's been awhile since I wrote here, but to help clear up WHY weed was made illegal, is simply prejudice. In the 1930s there were too many Mexican workers here since WWI ended. To get them out of the country Harry J Anslinger and his "girlfriend" J Edgar Hoover conned border states to make the plant illegal so "we" could ship them back home. Since then Govt has used fear to keep it illegal. Each and every one was a LIE (no surprise there, Huh?)

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 02, 2012:

Agreed, it obviously wasn't made illegal because it gets you stoned that is absurd, hell pharmaceuticals do that and are legal, so it has got to be its healing properties, protien and other uses.

RobSchneider on April 01, 2012:

grrrr - I just read an article about a girl with multiple "incurable" health problems who fixed them by making hemp leaf smoothies. Now I can't find it. Anyway, the evidence of its magical healing powers is growing all the time and only the completely brain dead/washed can deny it. If a nutard like you can put 2 and 2 together, what's anyone else's excuse?

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on April 01, 2012:

Have you tried eating it, the best way I have found is to put it in a crock pot on low with a stick of butter, cook it overnight and in the morning throw away the hemp and use the butter all the THC will be in the butter.

Be careful as it will be very strong and if you eat too much it will cause you to simple go to sleep.

Felixedet2000 from The Universe on April 01, 2012:

Hemp is not a gateway drug, it has not led me into any other drug, personally that assumption is invalid.

Side effect, i have never had any but has countless with alcohol including loss of consciousness.

Hemp being seen as illegal is perversity the way i see the other side of belief system. You know what i am talking about sommethgblue.

health-wise, as an asthmatic hemp is the best remedy all the way. Tried many other drugs and only end up depending on them. But with hemp, you can not simply comprehend it magical power against asthma. This is a personal conviction too.

So in my own world i care not about the government ban on hemp, i smoke it when i have an attack which is once in a blue moon after i started using hemp.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on March 22, 2012:

Yes eating it or using the oil is the way to go, however because so many companies test for marijuana use even that isn't a viable option.

I published another Hub here is the link about the medical use of marijuana and on it is a video called Run From the Cure well worth watching . . . they got us over a barrel

I'm going to publish a third Hub on the subject this weekend on a solution, so stay tuned!

Mmargie1966 from Gainesville, GA on March 22, 2012:

WOW! I'm a former smoker, myself (both cigarettes and weed). Your hub blew me away! I learned so much today, and I want to thank you.

Also, just wanted to say, I was a widow at age 37, and a caretaker of my late husband, a US Army Vet. I also was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia (extremely painful). In order for me to live comfortably, I need anti depressants, anti anxiety pills, and pain meds. All prescribed and all legal. I only take the addictive meds when absolutely necessary, even though I'm prescribed to take them daily.

Recently, they found a spot on my liver (gee, wonder where that came from after 15 years of poppin' pills).

I've tried herbal remedies, massage, prayer and meditation. (hmmm...haven't tried acupuncture yet though) Anyway, these alternatives help, but what I really need for all my legitimate ailments is ILLEGAL! I don't live in a medically legal state, so I'm SOL (I know you know that one).

I'm not saying that smoking it is completely healthy. But given my circumstances, it is a healthier choice, especially if eaten and not smoked.

Thanks for the enlightenment...voted up and across! And I will be sharing this hub too!

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on March 18, 2012:

Yeah the thing is alcohol wasn't going to put Big Oil, Big Steel and the Paper Industries out of business not too mention textiles and paint companies.

So many rich people were not going to be able to rape the American consumer by creating monopolies in a wide variety of companies if Hemp continued to be legal.

Rich people want to continue to be rich and greed doesn't allow for the common man to grow a bumper crop every year to sell for a wide variety of uses.

Hell they don't care if everyone is stoned, I have gotten high with Judges, Lawyers, Doctors and Politician many times, they just don't want Hemp legal.

When your making Billions on tax free income paying 30 one million dollar bribes to Congressmen and Senators is chump change.

Money Talks, Bullshit Walks!

Shannon Paigah from Irvine, CA on March 18, 2012:

Great hub! It's a shame to see tax-payer dollars wasted on fighting the use of marijuana, especially considering how the benefits far outweigh the consequences. Think about U.S. history and the days of prohibition, what did we learn?

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 25, 2012:

WOW! Did you do that recently as I was told that it was done, months ago also but am not adept at promoting my hubs yet and don't have a twitter account!

Thank you very much and will be promoting more of your hubs on my next piece!

KT Banks from Texas on February 25, 2012:

I also shared it with my 2700+ facebook friends and on Twitter, lol

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 25, 2012:

Yes and it was a lot of fun to write, often times when we move on we tend to get prejudicial against anyone that doesn't share our enlightened view, that is probable why my God is of a more spiritual orientation.

I always frowned on the hypocritical views of my elders and do not wish to fall into that trap.

thanks for commenting!

KT Banks from Texas on February 25, 2012:

Usually when a hub already has this many comments, I don't bother to add my two cents, but I just have to say, this is brilliant.

Like you I smoked pot in my younger days, then I got more serious about life after I got married, got pregnant and never smoked again. Never had withdrawal or anything like that. I never felt as if I NEEDED it, I could take it or leave it at any time.

Thanks for writing this.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on February 06, 2012:

You are the 2,000 viewer of this article, you win the right to roll a fatty and smoke it with you neighbors, I give you permission!

Yeah it ain't going matter soon anyway as the Polar Shift is beginning to escalate, the rats are jumping ship.

John Coviello from New Jersey on February 06, 2012:

The Criminalization of Marijuana and the War on Drugs more broadly has certainly harmed the right to be secure in one's persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, the 4th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. The Founding Fathters of the United States would be appalled that citizens rights under the 4th Amendment are being trampled upon by the "State" in the name of stopping the growth and use of a silly green plant that grows naturally all over the country. Too bad so many people still support the marijuana illegalization laws that have harmed our consitutional rights so badly.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on January 26, 2012:

Cool I'll check it out, I have often found that what some people call paranoia, I call introspection as it allows me to ponder my responsibilities and heightens my instincts!

Marvin Parke from Jamaica on January 26, 2012:

Bob Marley told 60 minutes, that all governments are illegal. I will be publishing an article on hemp fuel and use some excerpts from this article and link to it.

Rasta's believe the real reason that marijuana was made illegal was because that its hard to brainwash someone who is high. Because the plant causes people to question and rationalize things.

Marijuana was introduced to Jamaica by England from India. It was the reason why slaves were brought from Africa to Jamaica. They noticed that the slaves that smoked the plant are more likely to walk of the job or influence other slaves, so they changed it to sugar canes.

The link is up know, I found the same product on amazon. I find Canadian products are more organic.

nextstopjupiter from here, there and everywhere on January 18, 2012:

Interesting story, useful informations, thanks for this hub! I would like to add the following article I found recently

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on January 16, 2012:

Yes, now that you point that out it is down right selfish of me to waste valuable oxygen on my own pathetic existence, how thoughtless of me.

If there were any tall structures in the town where I live I would throw myself off it, but alas I'll be forced to wait for the end of the World.

Well, December 21 isn't that far off I guess I can wait for the cataclysmic apocalypse like everyone else . . .

sparkster on January 16, 2012:

Haha maybe we should join the CIA?!

RobSchneider on January 16, 2012:

Okay, I'm sick of all this complaining about the CIA and billionaires. Without the CIA protecting them, billionaires would be helpless and their billions transferred into the hands of useless eaters who do nothing towards making the world a safer place for the Illuminati. Why not show a little compassion towards the super-rich and super-powerful for a change?

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on January 15, 2012:

Yeah we wouldn't want to cut into any billionaires tax free profits, or keep the CIA ( criminals in action) from making a buck or two.

Sarcasm is a tricky thing online, sometimes it is difficult to know when someone is serious or not.

santos88 from Austin, Texas on January 15, 2012:

LOL! Now that I think about it, it is obvious. The sarcasm got lost in translation :)

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on January 15, 2012:

I know this is beside the point but according to my stats I have had 11 viewers in the last 24 hours and yet my overall stats have only risen by two, the rating system is weird.

Sparkster is being a little sarcastic Santos88 you guys are on the same page!

Just read any of Sparksters many informative and well written articles and you will see that he is preaching to the choir!

Hey, Sparkster thanx for having my back with scottgruber, that kind of narrow minded but intelligent thinking really frustrates me for some reason, maybe it is because I used to think like that when I was a youngster!

santos88 from Austin, Texas on January 15, 2012:

I don't see that as a problem. We need teachers and educators, not policemen arresting people for smoking an herb.

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on January 14, 2012:

The problem is that if it was decriminalized/legalized crime rates would go down then policing wouldn't be needed as much and crime-related government income would go down.

santos88 from Austin, Texas on January 14, 2012:

Legalize it! As a smoker myself I am all for the legalization of marijuana, but I think the greatest benefit of the legalization would be the benefit it provides people who MEDICALLY need it. It breaks my heart that my 96 year old great-grandmother has to break the law because none of the glaucoma medication she is given works. When you have a 96 year old woman suffering because some plant is illegal, it can really shift your thinking. They are trying to prevent criminals by keeping it illegal but the ONLY reason crime ever became associated with marijuana was when it was criminalized and people went to jail for it. Would any of you against the legalization of marijuana really deny a 96 year old lady comfort? What possible harm could her relief cause?

This was an extremely well written article. I definitely hope for a day when we can be free to make our own decisions, but I am not holding my breath.

Marc Hubs from United Kingdom on January 14, 2012:

THC without the high cannot be manufactured because THC is mostly responsible for the high in the 1st place. Although it causes paranoia in high strength this is counteracted by the cannibanoids responsible for the more physical 'buzz'.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on January 14, 2012:

Rob Schnieder who commented on this hub page also has a really good article on the medical marijuana issue and I wrote one called

Which deals with the fact that it has cured hundreds of people of cancer, flat out cured them!

Arlene V. Poma on January 14, 2012:

Thank you for steering me towards this Hub. Being a Californian, the question is asked of us each day: medical marijuana or not? A few weeks back, a local medical marijuana business gave away the last of its inventory to its patients, and these people were lined up around the block. Now you see these places, and now you don't. Bookmarked. Voted up and everything else.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 28, 2011:

Yes, this is the reason they criminalized it in the 30's as it would have broken up many monopolies of the rich and powerful and created jobs for the average citizen and a potential home remedy.

We need to get the word out, there is a You Tube video called Run from the Cure that shows a Nova Scotia man created an oil from Hemp that actually cures cancer and can be made in your own home, he is now on the run . . .

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on December 28, 2011:

Possibly, But what about biodegradable plastics, paper, textiles and so on. What this is all about is control by a few over many. Much like the fools in charge of our country they are short-sighted and greedy. Only thinking of themselves .

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 28, 2011:

If it was just stupidity they would occasional accidentally make a mistake in our favor. This is done on purpose as this plant has wide ranging uses from treatments of cancer to a great protein and food source.

geordmc from Beliot, Wisconsin on December 28, 2011:

If those billionaire idiots would wake up they would find that with over 22,000 LEGAL uses they would want to legalize it. They could make billions more with every day products being made with a very renewable resource. This is the stupidity that astounds me!

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 27, 2011:

Thank you teenyboyproblems, BTW like the name

The whole purpose to my hubs is for consideration and to make folks think and ponder.

Yes, billionaires want to remain billionaires and can afford to give every senator and congressman a million dollar bribe to keep it illegal.

No I do not think they are burning it would you burn tax free cash? yeah neither would I . . .

Thanks for taking the time to comment!

teenboyproblems from Nebraska on December 27, 2011:

"A pot smoker is less likely to get off the couch to find the remote than he is to beat his wife or get behind the wheel while intoxicated" That was great!

NICE! You prompted me to consider writing about the same thing, until I read your hub.

I'm glad you touched on the subject so well. I do not personally condone it anymore, of course we have all had our days or, in my case, years of experimentation and I personally believe that it would solve a lot of problems.

But if they legalize marajuana that then they would also have to consider legalizing everything else and that, of course, will NEVER happen. Who do you think is paying our politicians? They live on the pretense of upholding higher standards yet they accept political kickbacks from the people they are trying to save us from. What BS. [Sigh]

They say marajuana is the 'gateway drug', whatever. I was personally fine with what I was smoking. Like you said, I was too preoccupied trying to find the remote or my cigarettes and lighter to even consider the other stuff.

They, the government, just don't want to give up their personal stash. Think of all the confiscated drugs they aquire each year. Do you honestly believe they are burning it in fields with gas masks on? LOL. Ya, neither do I.

You are an awesome writer. And you will go far with all your life experience and sense of humor. You talk about things that most people won't and you are very intelligent. You make people think. Great hub! Thanks!

jenubouka on December 25, 2011:

Oh man you are kidding me? Alright crap, I will send it again.

That is pretty funny, I always semi-joke if you put 1500 women on the front line with PMS the war would've of been over long ago. In fact we women would not even need weapons our nagging about why the hell we are fighting in the fist place would draw all back. Or they would turn the guns on themselves to stop hearing all the complaining. They would also probably sign a deal with the whole oil sham just to never have to deal with us again.

somethgblue (author) from Shelbyville, Tennessee on December 24, 2011:

Well it will be pretty difficult to do worse than us, of course I have never been in charge and if I was I would line the fence surrounding the White House with the Skulls of my enemies . . . after I legalized marijuana of course.

I looked for the email recipe and couldn't find it, I even looked in spam, just in case . . .

just kidding about the skull thing . . .

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