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Atlantis Quest - Uncovering the Secrets That Prove Plato Right

Plato (center left) made it clear more than once that the Atlantis story was a true one. Was he lying? Or did he give us the truth as best as he could?

Plato (center left) made it clear more than once that the Atlantis story was a true one. Was he lying? Or did he give us the truth as best as he could?

Nearly two and a half millennia ago, Greek philosopher, Plato, wrote two dialogs, Timaeus and Critias , which remain in our imaginations today. Here is where we receive the story of Atlantis — a large island in the North Atlantic which sank in a day and a night.

The name evokes a sense of mystery and of secrets unrevealed. The name has inspired resorts, video games, novels, motion pictures and even the name of an American space shuttle. But was there any truth to the story? Perhaps most scientists and all self-proclaimed "skeptics" believe Plato made up the story, perhaps inspired from other, more recent events.

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Skepticism-induced Blindness

No doubt about it, scientists are human. They each possess their own ego and are subject to human frailties just like the rest of us.

In North American anthropology, the "Clovis first" doctrine held sway for many years. To question that dogma was to risk one's career. Many scientists were afraid to dig below the Clovis horizon (the stratum dating to the time of earliest habitation at Clovis, New Mexico) for fear of what they would find there that could jeopardize their careers.

Science had met a barrier of ego and was crippled by it.

More than a century ago, scientists looked upon myth and judged it as unworthy of further investigation. This left the field wide open, and amateur investigator, Heinrich Schliemann, scooped up the discovery of Troy. Buoyed by this find, more discoveries were made confirming that other myths were based on reality including, Mycenaean Greece and Minoan Crete. Then, it took more than a century for scientists to get around to discovering proof of Amazon warriors in the burial kurgans of Southern Russia. And not long ago, another amateur found what may have been the real island of Ithaca, home of Ulysses, hero of the Trojan War.

What do these have to do with Atlantis? Nothing, directly. They do show, however, that skepticism can blind us as much as help us in a quest to discover the truth of something. Why do scientists use it? Perhaps they need the restraint found in some forms of skepticism. The milder, more benign form of skepticism resembles selfless restraint, but still contains the built-in bias, "doubt." The other end of the skeptical spectrum contains self-indulgent ridicule and out-of-hand dismissiveness. These contain no restraint at all, and are most crippling in any investigation.

Selfless restraint, or humility, is a much better paradigm for science. Humility in the face of truth allows one to see that truth, whatever it is, and not to be blinded by preconceived notions. With this new paradigm in mind, let us take a look at the facts.

Modern Greece.

Modern Greece.

Plato's Lost Island Empire

Along with his teacher, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato (c.428–c.348 BC) was amongst the great thinkers who shaped Western civilization.

In his two "Atlantis" dialogs, Plato relates the conversation between his mentor, Socrates, and three others, Timaeus, Critias and Hermocrates. Therein, Critias tells a story handed down over several generations from Solon, the great Athenian wise man of two centuries earlier. While traveling in Egypt, about 600 BC, Solon learned from an elder Egyptian priest of Saïs the story of Atlantis.

Atlantis was a great empire which reigned from a large island in the Atlantic Ocean. It lay just outside the Pillars of Herakles (Strait of Gibraltar), the nearest portion facing a region of Southern Spain, called by the Phoenicians in Plato's time, "Gadira" (modern Cádiz, Spain). In size, the island was equivalent to Libya and Asia combined. Now, in those days, "Libya" meant all of coastal North Africa, except Egypt, while "Asia" meant "Asia Minor" (most of modern Turkey). This might be roughly one to two times the size of Texas (the largest of the contiguous United States).

An imaginative map of Atlantis at the end of the last Ice Age. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

An imaginative map of Atlantis at the end of the last Ice Age. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Atlantis was an advanced civilization, with a great fleet of ships, great armies and cavalry, plus a great city with marvelous buildings built of many kinds of stone, and a city with concentric circular canals and circular islands, the walls of which were plated with various metals. The empire had colonies within the Mediterranean, up to the Tyrrhenian Sea in the North, and up to Egypt in the South. They also held colonies across the great ocean on the other, unnamed continent and its islands.

The priest told Solon that Atlantis had attacked the prehistoric inhabitants of Athens, nine thousand years ago. Not long afterward, Atlantis was swallowed by the sea in the period of a day and a night. This was accompanied by great earthquakes and massive flooding in the region of prehistoric Athens. Both the aggressors and the defenders were destroyed, all about 9600 BC.

Plate tectonic movements 9620 BC. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Plate tectonic movements 9620 BC. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Geology of Atlantis

Perhaps the strongest argument against Atlantis as Plato told the story, is that there is nothing in the North Atlantic which allows for the past existence of a large island. Some refer to Atlantis as a "continent," but Plato was very clear to describe it as merely a large island, very different from the continent on which he lived and the unnamed continent across the Atlantic Ocean. The problem with the geological assertion is that there is indeed a great deal in the geology of the Atlantic which allows for Atlantis.

Where do most mountains exist on Earth? Any geologist will tell you that most mountains are formed near tectonic plate boundaries from the actions known as subduction (one plate sliding underneath the other), and crustal folding (the buckling caused by the friction between two moving plates). Crustal folding is also known as "mountain building," and if you build mountains tall enough in the middle of the ocean, they become islands.

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If Atlantis was real, it existed along the Africa-Eurasia tectonic plate boundary in the Northeast Atlantic. There is much more to this geological aspect of our Atlantis quest, but too much to include in this short article. The full story includes not only the formation of the island from subduction and crustal folding, but also the establishment of the current pole of rotation (Euler pole), the evolution of the island to a peninsula of Eurasia and back to an island, and a final collapse caused as much by climate change as by any geological factors.

Climate change 9620 BC. Tropics copyright Rod Martin, Jr. Snow courtesy (public domain).

Climate change 9620 BC. Tropics copyright Rod Martin, Jr. Snow courtesy (public domain).

Proof of an Atlantis-like Event

 While the geological arguments are at least plausible, we need proof. And, while we do not have direct proof of Atlantis, we have proof that something very, very big happened 9620 BC — practically a match for Plato's date for the Atlantis destruction. Each of these items is from a different branch of science:

Volcanic eruption. This one is of Mount St. Helens, Oregon, 1980.

Volcanic eruption. This one is of Mount St. Helens, Oregon, 1980.

• An abrupt and significant change in worldwide climate (end of Younger Dryas, 9620 BC)

• A moderately large volcanic event recorded in the Greenland ice cores (GISP2 survey, 9620.77 BC)

• A sudden, 2-meter drop in sea levels worldwide (9620 BC).

Each of the first two items could have been caused by something unrelated to Atlantis. The dates, though, make Atlantis the likeliest suspect.

Dramatic sea level drop, 9620 BC. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Dramatic sea level drop, 9620 BC. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

The third item comes from a graph of 17,000 years of sea level change found in a 1989 Nature magazine article. Typically, such a small blip on a graph is ignored as "noise" in the data, an error in recording, or the result of some unrelated phenomenon. Both the date and the magnitude of the "blip," however, call attention to themselves.

Though on the original graph the date was different, the placement right at the end of the Younger Dryas (YD) proves to be interesting. The slow-down in sea level rise during the YD is quite apparent on the graph. And the magnitude of two meters is "just right" for the demise of Atlantis.

According to the data, some region suffered tectonic subsidence about 9620 BC. This left a void which lowered sea level worldwide. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

According to the data, some region suffered tectonic subsidence about 9620 BC. This left a void which lowered sea level worldwide. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

The data needs to be corroborated as a proxy for a real event. With such verification, this data point becomes the "smoking gun" in the death of Atlantis. Nothing else could have caused such a drop in worldwide sea levels. Only an Atlantis-sized landmass getting out of the "bathtub" of the world oceans could have caused the water level to have gone down that much.

Geology of Atlantis

The double helix of DNA.

The double helix of DNA.

Genetic Proof

We have genetic proof that an extended family on both sides of the Atlantic was separated about 12,000 years ago. This is about when Plato's Atlantis sank. Some of the Native American tribes of North America as well as the Basques of Western Europe share the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup X.

Language. Haggling in the market in Morocco.

Language. Haggling in the market in Morocco.

Hints within Language

The "children" of Atlantis likely would either have shared a common language or would have had related languages. The Native American tribes of North America, particularly those along the East coast, spoke agglutinative languages. Basque, Etruscan, Sumerian, Georgian, Dravidian and Mon Khmer are agglutinative languages or language families. Now, this fact does not say much, by itself. By analogy, it's like saying they all drove cars. Yet, some car models have the same manufacturer. These people may be culturally related.



  • Mother: ama
  • Father: aita


  • Mother: ati
  • Father: apa

Etruscan Pantheon

  • Female goddess: Ana
  • Male god: Aita


  • Mother: deda
  • Father: mama

In Eurasia, the two most sentimentally favorite words show a distinct pattern within these languages across the two continents.

These words are "mother" and "father."

Most, if not all, modern linguists will tell you that you can't prove a relationship on such skimpy data. They may not tell you, however, that you cannot disprove a relationship, either.

Notice how the Basque for mother is similar to the Etruscan for father, while the Basque for father is similar to the Etruscan for mother. They appear to have been gender-swapped.

Father, mother and child.  Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Father, mother and child. Copyright Rod Martin, Jr.

Yet, in the Etruscan pantheon, we find the name of a goddess similar to the Basque word for mother, and the name of a male god equivalent to the Basque word for father — not gender-swapped. Ana was the female goddess of beginnings, while Aita was the male god of endings (ruler of the dead).

It is possible that the Etruscans, in their prehistoric past (the era of the god and goddess), had women rule, and when men were handed the scepter, men became the new "mothers."

Notice also the apparent gender swap in Georgian.

Walled Etruscan town, Civita di Bagnoregio.

Walled Etruscan town, Civita di Bagnoregio.

Cultural Clues

Did the Children of Atlantis migrate across Eurasia, intermarrying with the people they encountered? Could their influences be found in other cultures?

Many of the Native American tribes of North America were matriarchal or matrilineal. And though the Basques were not matriarchal in recorded history, they do have a track record for strong women and their men do have the couvade (sympathetic pregnancy pains suffered by the men for their expectant wives).

The Etruscans were despised by their Roman neighbors to the South as well as by the Greeks, because of the power they gave their women. And what a male-chauvinistic point-of-view that is, especially if it was the women who allowed men to have power.

The Angkor Wat temple ruins stand at the center of a UNESCO World Heritage Site in modern Cambodia. Built in the twelfth century, it remains the largest religious building in the world.

The Angkor Wat temple ruins stand at the center of a UNESCO World Heritage Site in modern Cambodia. Built in the twelfth century, it remains the largest religious building in the world.

The Georgians also do not have a history of matriarchy, but their Queen Tamar ruled during their "Golden Age," and their Princess Medea was the strong-willed woman who betrayed her people to help Jason and the Argonauts steal the Golden Fleece from a golden dragon. Later, Medea was seen fleeing Athens, flying away on a golden dragon. And yet, we also have the clue of gender-swap between the Georgian words for mother and father.

And the Mon Khmer peoples, some of whom created the fabulous Khmer Empire centered on Angkor in present-day Cambodia, have a past which includes matriarchy. The Mon, today, are still matriarchal.

First century Roman statue of Athena.

First century Roman statue of Athena.

Are these clues telling us that Atlantis and its refugees were matriarchal?

There may be one myth which relates to the Atlantis story, though the name "Atlantis" is not used in it. This is the story of Goddess Athena's birth.

Some of the parallels between the two stories are striking. Some of the Atlantis side is extrapolated from Plato's writing.


• The most advanced civilization of all time.

• Swallowed whole by the sea.

• Refugees fled the "head" (capital) city, fully-mature as a civilization.

• Refugees held the military might and know-how to protect themselves.


• Mother, Metis, was the wisest individual of all time.

• Mother, Metis, was swallowed whole.

• Athena sprang full-grown from her father's head.

• Athena was born wearing armor.

Statue of Amazon preparing for the battle (Pierre-Eugene-Emile Hebert, 1860), National Gallery of Art Washington, DC.

Statue of Amazon preparing for the battle (Pierre-Eugene-Emile Hebert, 1860), National Gallery of Art Washington, DC.

These parallels do not prove a relationship between the two myths, but the possibility remains. If Metis represents the latter years of Atlantis before being swallowed whole, and if Athena represents the refugees born fully mature, then the parallels tell us that Atlantis and its refugees were matriarchal.

If, as I suspect, Medea had become disenchanted with the men in her life (bored with the men of her homeland, betrayed by her husband Jason, and outcast by her second husband, Aegeus, king of Athens), she may have thought to create her own tribe of women. Versions of the Medea myth vary, but if Medea gave birth to the band of women warriors, and if Colchis was related to Atlantis, what better name to give her new band than "Mother Atlantis" (ama-Atlan, Amazon)?

Acropolis of Athens, Temple of Rome and Augustus, next to the Parthenon.

Acropolis of Athens, Temple of Rome and Augustus, next to the Parthenon.

Archaeological Hurdle

For a long time, an argument against the past reality of Atlantis could have been stated thusly, that there is no evidence that any civilization existed that far back. The recently found ruins at Göbekli Tepe, Turkey have been dated at 9500 BC. While these may not be related to Atlantis, they may be related to the ancient proto-Greeks who fought against Atlantis. And there are many places yet to be dug up by archaeologists. Likely, there are many more discoveries to be made.

Many of the places which might have included colonies of Atlantis are under many feet of water. Sea level when Atlantis sank was nearly two hundred feet lower than it is today. Those ancient coastlines are likely under many inches or feet of silt.

Colonies of Atlantis

Plato also mentioned colonies across the great ocean (Atlantic) on the islands and mainland of an unnamed continent (America?).

A great deal has been made of the fact that the Mesoamericans and Egyptians both built pyramids. The shape of the structures, by itself, does nothing to prove a link, however. Pyramids are stable and obvious shapes for building that can easily be originated by independent cultures.

Perhaps the most intriguing link to Atlantis are the underwater ruins found in the Caribbean. The breakwater near Bimini Island in the Bahamas remains the most controversial such find.

Myth to Reality

Was Atlantis a real place? We still do not know for certain. There are too many unanswered questions simply to close the book on the subject. With the right funding, some good educated guesses and a little luck, proof of Atlantis and its colonies could be found, if they exist at all.

The prospect of finding proof of Atlantis is intoxicating. Many researchers have already staked their reputations on putative finds of Atlantis in such locations as Scandinavia, Thera, the Andes of South America, Indonesia and even Antarctica. But what if Plato was correct? What if Atlantis is right where he said it was? Perhaps when James Cameron finishes his Avatar series of movies, he might be up for a new adventure, hunting down Atlantis. And the capital of Atlantis might not be as far down in the ocean as is the Titanic.

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Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on October 04, 2014:

There's always more to learn. I've had many theories about this topic and keep modifying the hypotheses as new information is acquired.

Actually, we're in an Ice Age right now and have been for 2+ million years! What most people call "Ice Age" was the most recent glacial period of the current Ice Age. We've been in an interglacial period for about 12,000 years. The glacial period had lasted far longer (~100,000 years).

And the end of the last glacial period was very gradual. The last glacial maximum (LGM) was about 26,000-19,000 years ago, according to some estimates. A great deal of melting occurred from then until about 13,000 years ago. The 6-13 thousand years of melting abruptly stopped and Earth entered what is called the Younger Dryas (YD). This wasn't the only such cooling period, but it certainly has perhaps the most interesting features -- an abrupt start and an equally startling end.

The abrupt start of the YD has been explained by one theory as the result of the spilling of massive amounts of cold, freshwater melt from a temporary Lake Agassiz in central Canada. The abrupt (~50 year) end of the YD is harder to explain, though. Yet, the passing of Atlantis could have stirred up the Atlantic Ocean sufficiently to have disrupted the cold, freshwater cap on the ocean's currents. That would've restored the warming trend.

Three items of evidence tend to prove an Atlantis-like event occurred ~9600 BC.

Buildreps from Europe on October 04, 2014:

Hi Rod, thanks for your reply. It is definitely very interesting this theory of rebound. I checked out the link you provided. As with every theory there seem to miss parts of the evidence. The reason of the sudden end of the last ice age remains unexplained. Perhaps you have more clues.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on October 04, 2014:

Thanks, Buildreps.

"Earth crust displacement" is a term I have heard before, but it has remained sufficiently vague to make me hunger for greater understanding. I have long wanted a more detail understanding of the possible mechanics of such a collapse.

In the terms of geological science, the Atlantis location, according to Plato was along the Africa-Eurasia tectonic plate boundary. The formation of Atlantis can be explained by the process of subduction. The island's instability is also explained by the plate boundary's natural instability. Earthquakes and volcanoes naturally exist along all tectonic plate boundaries.

But the one thing that most Atlantis researchers have missed is the fact that Atlantis supposedly sank right when Earth was undergoing its greatest change from the end of Ice Age glaciation. This has been called post-glacial rebound or glacial isostatic adjustment. Massive amounts of tectonic plate material rebounded energetically during the period right at the end of the last glacial age. An equally energetic down draw was to be expected to compensate for the uplift. Atlantis was right between the two areas of greatest uplift.

My latest blog article talks about this effect in greater detail:

Buildreps from Europe on October 04, 2014:

Interesting article, Rod. I do think that Atlantis existed based on the information of the Emerald Tablets. It goes to far in this comment section to explain the details, but Atlantis was definitely in the Atlantic Ocean West of North-Africa - 99.9% sure. It must have been sunk due to an Earth crust displacement at the end of the last ice age around 12,000 years ago.

Well researched, voted up!

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on December 22, 2013:

Edwinoel, thank you for your lovely comment. I too have been fascinated by tales of Atlantis for many years -- since about 1960. I plan to write a book about Atlantis this coming year, "Mission: Atlantis."

Now, I'm in the final stages of completing "The Bible's Hidden Wisdom, God's Reason for Noah's Flood."

I have been captivated by the meanings of self, faith and doubt since perhaps age 9 months. My search for God's truth has been long and varied. I have tasted that freedom in all its glory -- fully spiritual freedom -- freedom from mortal bondage. That freedom has come and gone, but with each passing, my hunger has grown. My understanding of what it means to "follow Christ" has grown. With love overflowing, I cannot help but share what I have found. These gems are too precious to keep to myself.

Bless you, my friend. Fellow Texan (you, adopted), fellow Angeleno, fellow Pinoy (me, adopted).

Rod Martin, Jr.

Cebu, Philippines

Edwinoel Tanglao from Los Angeles, California on December 17, 2013:

Interesting hub lone77star. I was fascinated by myths and legends more than half of my life since my memory served me. Marvel comics cartoons and tv series of Captain Nemo have given me a glimpse of Atlantis wondering if it ever existed.

Now I realize, whether it's true of not, the light of the living God in Christ has been part of us since creation.

The good and the bad side of life, light and darkness has made this world go round with never ending theories, opinions, creativity and imaginations in man, in search of truth and this has challenged more minds to question the existence of God.

Time in light has molded me to better understand God's truth.

Beyond Atlantis, I have seen the truth, like yours, perhaps, lone77star, in the humility of one's heart and spirit, where one may see the greater light in Christ that encompasses all minds in union with all of creation, the truth that sets free and is everlasting.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on September 09, 2013:

Thanks, Kathryn. That one word packs a lot of meaning.

Glad you liked it.

Kathryn L Hill from LA on September 08, 2013:


Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on September 06, 2012:

Fascinating. Thanks for the links. I love this kind of investigation.

CoauthorU from Inland Northwest, USA on September 04, 2012:

You may find these interesting... great hub, enjoyed it very much. More later, read this just before bed. Thanks.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on June 03, 2012:

@Seventh-sista, thanks for your wonderful comments. There were many things left out of this long article -- things for a book in progress. But you've mentioned some things that I hadn't considered -- Brythonic Celts, similarities in Berber and Linear A and others. Very nice!

Seventh-sista on May 31, 2012:

You could add the Berbers and peoples of ancient Crete to the Atlantean mix, as well as the Brythonic Celts. I've been looking into the links with these various civilizations for a few years now, not something I could feasibly do as an archaeology undergraduate. Ancient Berber script and Linear A look pretty similar, the Etruscans and the people of Crete looked pretty similar and their cultural relics too. There is the worship of serpents and yes the Matriarchal or rather mother-focused, peaceful nature of them. Yes there's the language, there's place names, there is also rhesus negative blood, which is strongest in all the lands mentioned here in this article. I used to be a skeptic, but when I began to research into the origins of this ancient European cultural signature I kept finding, eventually it took me to Atlantis. Finally there is Ireland and 'Lyonesse' - part of modern day Cornwall. Thanks for writing this, it confirms all my own theories, which might be worth writing up one day!

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on December 29, 2011:

Hello @cebutouristspot. Thanks for your comments. I too would like to see some of those artifacts!

cebutouristspot from Cebu on December 24, 2011:

Very very interesting piece. I like it and look forward to your future writing. I hope by mire luck or another geographic event Atlantis will pop up again and we will have access to countless artifact and knowledge that are long lost to us.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on August 28, 2011:

DDS, I agree completely.

I think the story of Santorini (Thera) has some merit, if Atlantis never existed. As "inspiration" for Atlantis it has a lot to offer, but Plato may not have referred to that event at all. If Atlantis existed, then it would have been as he defined it. Santorini and other locations around the globe are not Atlantis, by definition.

David Sproull from Toronto on August 26, 2011:

I quite enjoyed it. There are a wide range of theories out there, and some are maybe more credible than others, but I do think it is worthwhile exploring and discussing ideas about our ancient past and doing so with an open mind.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on August 26, 2011:

Thanks, DDS. I'm honored to receive your visit.

David Sproull from Toronto on August 22, 2011:

Voted up! :-)

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on August 16, 2011:

Thanks, Aley. Glad you enjoyed it. Santorini was certainly the site of a major catastrophe, but nothing compared to the real Atlantis, if it existed. Santorini likely caused a tsunami a dozen meters high at Crete. One estimate suggests that an Atlantis subsidence might have resulted in a tsunami a kilometer or more high in Western Europe. Big difference.

The Atlantis conference was held in Santorini (Thera) this last June. I missed it, but that would've been a real treat.

Alice Lee Martin from Sumner, Washington,USA on August 13, 2011:

I have always been drawn to Santorini....will be checking your website! Thanks for a GREAT HUB!

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on May 29, 2011:

Thanks, Nell, for the input. I appreciate you stopping by.

Actually Santorini (Thera) is an old theory (close to a century), widely accepted by skeptics, but thoroughly discredited by its critics. Besides my own website (, you might want to check out

Nell Rose from England on May 29, 2011:

Hi, fascinating theories, I watched the story of Atlantis on tv last week, it was a docu drama and it was really interesting, they now believe that it probably is Santorini, because of the giant volcano exploding, causing a tidal wave etc, it seems that maybe they have solved the puzzle, until the next time! lol

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on May 26, 2011:

Luis, thank you for your comments. I appreciate you stopping by.

Luis E Gonzalez from Miami, Florida on May 23, 2011:

What a complete hub full of details and intriguing information. Overall excellent.

thank you for posting it.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on November 07, 2010:

Lady Guinevere, all the time. Humanity with a PhD might be something we'd likely not recognize at all. Interesting to think about, though.

Debra Allen from West Virginia on November 07, 2010:

Wow Lone77star that description sound just like our rockets to space. If that is 3rd grade doncha wonder what 9th grade is like?

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on November 07, 2010:

Lady Guinevere, I look forward to reading your new Hub.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on November 07, 2010:

Thanks Anti-Dolt. You continue to show your own active imagination and creativity. And that's a good thing.

I like your analogy of various grade levels of our present and past. Something about it feels so right, but as you pointed out, is so "unproven." I read an article recently about ancient bodies found amongst the Indus River Valley ruins. They were unnaturally radioactive. There was other evidence suggestive of some kind of nuclear warfare several thousand years ago. And I seem to remember a story from the Bhagavad Gita of a silver needle rising on a column of flame and a blinding flash brighter than the sun. Sounds pretty "3rd grade" to me.

Will we ever graduate? I hope so....

Debra Allen from West Virginia on November 07, 2010:

I am going to put your hub in the links of one of my hubs about Myth or Real.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on November 07, 2010:

Thanks, Lady Guinevere.

Anti-Dolt on November 06, 2010:

Imagination deserves its own dimension, to say the least.

To me, there is no doubt that there were highly advanced civilizations in the past that dwelled on this particular planet, but why that notion would boggle many, only confirms the various levels of existence at hand.

Atlantis sounds like a great start to explore for many, but I think the advanced inhabitants of the past, covered more ground than that. Obviously they got a little ahead of their selves and blew their joint up, but they most likely had the technology to also get the hell out of here...unlike us!

Lets just say that the playground on Earth, at present time, is geared towards Kindergarten through 3rd grade, while the few remaining 4th grade students are temporarily labelled as misfits here (oh, but ain't it fun), even though this place used to be High-School, long ago! Ha-ha! Ahh, but isn't all that imaginary hogwash so very unproven - while being ever-so real! Hence forth the attribute of our intuition... ;)

Debra Allen from West Virginia on November 06, 2010:

They have new video's on Ancient Aliens. Here is just one that I randomly picked. It is part of a series in a series and so forth.

Rod Martin Jr (author) from Cebu, Philippines on November 06, 2010:

Lady Guinevere, I see you have a broad range of interests. It's a big universe and there are a lot of possibilities. I wish we had more evidence for some of those things. And I love maps. I have long fantasized about ancient maps being discovered in the library archives at Alexandria, Egypt or in one of the pyramids.

And I too have a feeling Arthur and Camelot were real, though likely not in the form Hollywood typically gives us. Thanks for the comments. I'm glad you liked the Hub.

Debra Allen from West Virginia on November 05, 2010:

Excellent article and information. I do think there was such a place as well as Mu. One thing that gets me is that when they are trying to find Atlantis they are using modern (well not our modern) maps. There were many other maps way back then too. I love watching the History Channel and on one of the programs about Ancient Aliens there wer spoken of many different maps of the land back then. Could they be using the wrong maps and have they tried using the other maps to see if there is a better match. Ancient Aliens brings up a plethora of possiblities of this world and others and where things lie and destructions and building of structures.

Then again I believe that Camelot and King Arthur as real as you and I.

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