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HubPages - a Writing Community

John is a freelance writer, ghostwriter, storyteller, and poet. He always tries to include a message or social commentary in his writing

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Back to the Beginning

I first discovered HubPages in 2009 and published my very first hub "How to Become Self-Sufficient and Live Off the Grid" on 10 September that year. At the time of writing this, I have just passed my eleventh year as a hubber. This is my 468th article.

I have seen many changes in that time, some good and some bad, but the one constant has been the sense of community and the support, feedback, and witty banter shared mainly through the comments on each other's articles. Some fellow writers I met all those years ago are still here today and have become firm friends, but many others who have been unhappy with the various changes or who felt their writing and opinions were not valued have left to start their own blogs or find other places to write.

If it wasn't for a few special people who began to read my hubs, encouraged me, and shared my work with others, I probably would not have stayed. HubPages, though, was my first online writing experience and provided a very user-friendly platform to publish one's work.

Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

Embracing Change

Moving on to 2016 I wrote a hub titled "My Ode to Hub Pages" wherein I stated that most changes, though not easy to embrace at first, seemed to be wise moves to keep HubPages relevant and prevent it from disappearing like competing sites such as Bubblews and Squidoo.

Accolades like 'Hubber of the Day" and "Editor's Choice" were given the heave-ho, as well as features such as the ability to vote hubs up or down, funny, informative, educational etc. I was just about to say the annual "Hubby Awards" are a continuing incentive for authors to receive peer recognition, but that may be premature as I haven't seen anything mentioned about any 2020 awards. Maybe that has also fallen prey to the winds of change. Let's wait and see.

The introduction of the niché Network sites appeared to appease the Google gods who HubPages seemed to have fallen out of favour with, in recent years. Many writers saw an increase in views and gradual rise in income after their articles were moved and this seemed like a positive move going forward.

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Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

Network Site Migration to Maven Front-end Publishing Platform

Many of us had trepidation when we heard the news of the Maven takeover of HubPages but, apart from an increase in invasive ads and pop ups, this change did not seem too drastic. Things change quickly however, and authors' concerns have increased with the niché sites being moved to Maven's front-end publishing platform.

This was posted by Samantha Cubbison in a forum in July: "Exciting news! Engineers have been extremely busy over the last few months consolidating technology at Maven and taking the first steps toward moving HubPages sites to a centralized Maven platform, which readers and advertisers love. We are thrilled to announce that TatRing (scheduled to go live on Wednesday, July 15th) is the first of our Network Sites to be rendered by our front-end publishing platform which offers a polished, modern look and a better user experience." The full post can be found here: Important Network Site Update.

It is only natural to expect some teething problems with any new concept, however, a growing number of seasoned writers are worried about the following:

  1. No initial allowance for comments after articles are moved to the new niché format. This will lead to a loss of community, and peer support.
  2. No author bios on the niche sites (still visible when viewed via Hub Pages) even though this was quite a recent innovation and we were encouraged to create relevent bios for each article.
  3. No links to authors' HubPages profile page so readers can easily find other works by an author they like.
  4. A video player situated at the very top of each article (often totally unrelated to the following article content) and on desktop or laptop computer this video takes up the entire screen. This risks influencing a visitor to abandon a decision scroll down to read further.
  5. Loss of individuality with all articles appearing very uniform in look and style. I am sure that is what the powers that be have intended but although it may be appealing to some, to me it lacks the personal feel that HubPage articles have always had.
  6. Polls and quizzes no longer display correctly or as originally intended.Videos and ads reported as missing or not working in certain countries.
  7. Traffic and earnings seem to be suddenly plummeting since the migration to the new format began. This seems more than a coincidence.

Admittedly this is still classed as Stage One of the site migration and to be fair we have to allow the technical staff time to address our concerns and hopefully come up with satisfactory solutions. I am willing to give it another month to see if all the creases are ironed out and things start to improve.

Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

HubPages Demographics

There seems to be two distinct demographics among the writers at HubPages (and maybe a third that is a combination of the two.)

  1. Those who write purely to meet what the general public is searching for, with their eyes firmly set on the dollar value that traffic brings. These writers spend as much time studying SEO, keyword and title searches as they do writing the articles.
  2. Those who write chiefly for pleasure, to keep improving their writing, to write topics that please them, and for the entertainment and opinion/feedback from their peers. To these authors, money isn't a driving factor and just having a place to have their writing published and read is what they seek.
  3. These writers are a combination of the two. they write for the pleasure of seeing their work published, but have chosen HubPages because it does offer the bonus of some monetary compensation which many other sites do not.
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Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay

What Makes the Best Article? Are Comments That Important?

What makes the best article? Though many would say, "The one that makes you the most money," I personally believe it is the one that attracts the most comments. I value the opinions of my fellow hubbers/writers more than I do the general Google or search engine public. The latter tend to search on a "need to know" information basis rather than on writing quality.

The inability to accommodate new comments and replies, I feel, is the biggest failing of the new niché platform. This will lead to the loss of "sense of community" and may unfortunately cause many long-time friends and colleagues not being able to communicate through the HubPages platform they have held dear for so long. To many this is far superior as a social networking site than either Facebook or Twitter.

I will finish up with these words also by Samantha Cubbins in the forum post mentioned previously and related to Tatring, the first site to migrate:

"- New comments will not be accepted on articles, at least temporarily. TatRing only received 24 new comments in May, but we understand that comments are an important part of the community, and we are working on a solution to make this feature available. We encourage you to join the TatRing community in the forums or on Facebook to connect, comment, and stay up-to-date on the latest news."

It must be pointed out however that the above statement was made in June, three months ago. Surely, with technology as advanced as it is today that would be time enough to work out a way of restoring the comment capability to articles.

The HP Learning Centre actually states as follows:


”Finding Success on HubPages

  1. How do I build readership on HubPages?

    There are three primary means by which most Hubbers build a strong readership on HubPages:

    1. They publish in-depth, high-quality, search-friendly articles on subjects about which they are particularly knowledgeable and passionate.
    2. They publish these articles regularly.
    3. They actively engage with the HubPages community by commenting on others' work, getting involved in special programs like contests, and sharing their tips and findings in the Forums.“

Latest Update on Comments


In the HubPages Weekly (3rd Dec 2020) email it states as follows:

"We are aiming to reinstate comments on articles in the first half of 2021. We'll keep the community posted as we know how important this is to you."

SAMANTHA CUBBISON
EDITOR / COMMUNITY MANAGER

It is welcome news that our concerns are still going to be acted upon. In the first half of 2021 means, it could still be a long way away though, so I guess we just have to be patient.

A Must Read For Gaining Additional Insight

This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.

© 2020 John Hansen

Comments

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 21, 2020:

I can see it too - but as you say, the most sensible thing would have been to pause the migration of the rest of the sites until the problems were ironed out

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 20, 2020:

Yes, Shauna, that's true. I guess we just have to patiently wait and see what happens.

Marisa, you are probably right, they weren't expecting all the problems that have surfaced, so it may just be taking more time than anticipated. I can see how they would give priority to videos and ads before comments.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 20, 2020:

I recall that comment about Tatring too. Looking at her statements, I think Samantha expected the new comments section would be programmed and ready before the "big" sites moved. Obviously they didn't expect all the other problems with ads and videos being blocked, which have proved very difficult to fix, and they've had to divert the programmers to fixing those things first.

Robert Sacchi on October 20, 2020:

Yes, all of this is very disturbing.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 20, 2020:

We shall see, John. Samantha assures us they'll be reinstated, but I'll believe it when I see it. Apparently, the software as it stands doesn't allow for comments. So, it's not that they were disabled at all. A programmer will have to come in and reconfigure the software to allow for comments. I think Maven would have to give the approval to do so. Since none of their other sites have room for comments, I think we are simply being placated in hopes of shutting us up.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 20, 2020:

Yes, I tend to agree. I read something about the original Tatring move where they said that particular niche site had only received 48 comments or something in a month so they felt comments wasn’t an issue. They were wrong to base the other niche sites on that one, and I am sure had no idea of the backlash the move is receiving.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 20, 2020:

I have a feeling HP forged ahead moving the niches sites to the Maven format knowing full well comments would be disabled. What they didn't count on was all the complaints about it and the other changes. Perhaps they thought we'd just lie down and take it.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 20, 2020:

I took it to mean they were working for Maven, yes.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 19, 2020:

I assume that means they are working for Maven now, on other projects

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 19, 2020:

Yes, Marisa, and like you mentioned about all the HubPages staff having changed since your return. That article said Paul took all his staff with him.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 19, 2020:

That is a good point Robert, and a major concern.

Robert Sacchi on October 19, 2020:

The existing bugs, major to us, might be minor to Maven. Compare the number of hits vs the number of comments. If less than 1% of the hits generate a comment and only a fraction of that comes back for a return visit it may not be worth the trouble to them to fix it.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 19, 2020:

That's what we all assumed. I was shocked when they kept on going

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 19, 2020:

For some behind the scenes insight about the sale of HubPages to Maven, check out this link:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/06/hubpages-sells-to-...

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 19, 2020:

Oh the beauty of hindsight. Wouldn’t it have been great if they had just moved Tatring and worked out all these bugs and programming changes necessary before moving all the other niche sites.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 19, 2020:

There's no option in the existing Maven layouts. It's going to require major reprogramming to add them and that's why it has taken so long.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 19, 2020:

Marisa, if there's no option for us to have comments reinstated or integrated into the Maven sites, why would Samantha tell us they're working on it and they'll be made possible soon?

What's the real truth?

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 18, 2020:

It's not suspicious, it's simply a consequence of their rush to put us on the Maven layout. None of Maven's sites allow comments so there is no option for us to have them.

Any sensible company would have delayed the move until such basic elements had been programmed in, but Maven is on a desperate mission to demonstrate big savings before it has to seek refinancing in April next year. If it does not, we lose everything.

Robert Sacchi on October 18, 2020:

Thank you for posting your perspective on HubPages. It is worrisome that they haven't activated comments. It seems enabling comments should be a high priority for Maven. Going to another site to comment seems suspicious.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 18, 2020:

Perhaps the fault is with HubPages for not making the vital importance of the "Official Announcements" section clear enough. In the olden days, most Hubbers were active in the forums as they were such a big part of the social life, so it was never necessary to point that out - but it sounds like they should be doing that nowadays.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 18, 2020:

So did I, whenI first jonied HubPages many years ago. The fact remains that there is an "Official Announcements" section on the forums which is where official announcements are made. It takes a matter of minutes, once a week, to check that part of the forum. I'm astonished at how many writers apparently don't do that one simple thing.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 18, 2020:

And where do we go to do that, Marisa? Wouldn't it be wiser on the part of HP staff to email each writer? Most of us don't frequent the forums or sections outside of responding to that to which we are notified. If something—anything— occurs behind the scenes that affect those who ARE HubPages, we should actively be made aware.

It's called Common Courtesy.

Let me not neglect to mention, many of us have full-time jobs that take up at least forty hours of our consciousness.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 18, 2020:

Although I'm not a fan of HubPages administration, I would argue that there is an "Official Announcements" section and any author who cares about their writing should be checking it once a week.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 18, 2020:

I think it would behoove HP to send notification to each and every writer when a forum post regarding the migration has been issued. I never receive notification. I find them by accident or when they are mentioned in the weekly newsletter. If the forums are where concerns are to be voiced and heard, then all writers should be invited. The migration concerns each and every one of us. Therefore, each and every one of us should be notified at time of post. Not a week later via the newsletter and not by accident by way of comments in posted articles.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 17, 2020:

Well, Marisa, both Shauna and I have posted links to our articles there, if she bothers to read and pass them on. By writing these articles and giving links to the forums we are trying to make at least our followers aware. At least I read the forums (even though I don't comment there often), so I try to stay informed. Unfortunately many others won't even look at them, so I guess I am trying to be some sort of go-between. Thank you for your input. It is appreciated.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 17, 2020:

That's my point, Jodah. All writers need to be aware that HubPages management are COMPLETELY unaware of any Hubs written to protest the current situation. Samantha has said she conveys feedback FROM THE FORUMS to management, so that's the only place where protest can have any effect - and there is only a pitiful handful of people protesting there, which gives HP the impression that only a few troublemakers are making a fuss.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 17, 2020:

Thank you for your support, Rupert. Seniority has never counted for much here before, so I doubt it will now. But, we still need to voice our opinion.

Rupert Taylor from Waterloo, Ontario, Canada on October 17, 2020:

Shauna, Marisa, and John. If I may be so bold, you are the senior voices here, but, as a relative newcomer of four year's standing, I'm with you. It seems the marketing dudes, who care nothing for community (How many dollars does the concept generate?) are in the ascendancy.

I think I'll keep delivering copy, because that's what I do, but I have few expectations that the ink-stained wretches are going to be valued.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 17, 2020:

No, I don’t mind Shauna. Marisa, I know that Paul sold HubPages to Maven or allowed the merger. He was also appointed temporary CEO at Maven at one stage. I was referring to when he was in charge here and he did personally reply to concerns on the forums. Now he is obviously too high up in Maven or too far removed from HP to bother about that anymore.

However, being his baby you would think he would still take some interest in what is happening here.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 17, 2020:

John, I hope you don't mind if I comment on Marisa's comment.

Marisa, first off I want to thank you for commenting twice on John's article. You're most often seen in the forums and to have you offer you thoughts on a writer's article is very much appreciated.

You have a voice.

That said, Why isn't Paul speaking up for us? Has money and power overcome community?

That's our gripe. The HubPages community seem to have been dusted under the rug.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 17, 2020:

Paul Edmonson is no longer involved with HubPages. He sold it to Maven and has been given a seat in their Executive Team as part of the deal.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 17, 2020:

Thank you for adding to the opposition to the latest changes, Chitrangada. Once upon a time the writers were consulted or at least our views were considered before changes were implemented, and they also tried to iron out the bugs before they put them into effect. It seems all that has changed. Paul Edmondson himself used to advise us why things were being done and what we could expect.

The views on my most popular articles have plummeted recently since rather move.

Chitrangada Sharan from New Delhi, India on October 17, 2020:

I agree with your comments, John. I am afraid that even after so many writers have shared their concerns, nothing seems to have changed.

My niche sites article views are down, profile views down, and obviously the earnings are down.

No one seems to care for the writer’s/ contributor’s opinions. It wasn’t like this earlier.

Thank you.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 16, 2020:

Thank you, Shauna.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 16, 2020:

Amen, John! Well said, my friend.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 16, 2020:

Thank you for reading this Marisa..I wasn’t the first one to write a hub opposing the recent changes (there were at least two others) but was asked to join the cause and write an article.

The reason we decided to write articles is that at the time our main argument was that we wanted the ability to comment added to the new niche site format. Also we had already made our case in the forums and emails to staff and were virtually palmed off. So we thought it best to make our concerns known in as many places as possible. There are a lot of people who do not read the forum posts that follow us and comment and read our articles.

Some of those commenting didn’t even know that they couldn’t comment on the niche sites now, and even that they had been moved to the Maven format. What better place than to protest the removal of comment capability than in comments on hubs.

There is not much chance any on these topics will be moved to niche sites so they will just keep gathering comments. Surely the staff will be forced to take some notice of the number of comments these hubs are receiving. Besides, I still haven’t seen Samantha offer a satisfying explanation for anything, and it’s been months. I know she seems like a nice person but she is also starting to sound frustrated because she has to do all the liaising on her own between those who approved these changes and the disgruntled hubbers.

So, everyone who has written hubs about it has already complained on the forums and got no satisfaction. Samantha keeps just repeating the same rhetoric over and over, so it is like butting your head against a brick wall. Please feel free to keep arguing the case in the forums and some of us will continue to do it through articles. Let’s just see if it makes any difference in the long run, but we aren’t giving up and going quietly on this.

Marisa Wright from Melbourne, Australia on October 16, 2020:

Hi, I see what you mean about discussions on Hubs instead of on the forums. It seems a shame that people are writing Hubs instead, because the HubPages staff (apart from one QAP moderator) will never see the views expressed on these Hubs - whereas if people made more noise on the forums, perhaps we'd be listened to.

Although I fear it would make no difference. Gone are the days when the founder of HubPages took an interest in the site and its authors. Now we only have Samantha, who, although a nice girl, has no authority whatsoever - it's an indication of how little HubPages values us that they dont think we deserve attention from anyone of importance.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 15, 2020:

Thank you for you kind words Dream On. I hope you found this article explained the situation, or at least made it a little clearer. I hope things improve soon and we can comment on articles already moved to the niche sites.

DREAM ON on October 15, 2020:

Thank you for all the great work you always do. Helping us hubbers find our way through. In tough times when things go from bad to worse. There is hope and friendship that keeps us all together. Some things aren't said but we think of them often. How good everyone is helping each other. I am learning to accept comments first then you can comment. Have a great night. Happy writing.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 04, 2020:

Yes, Shauna, let us hope that restoring comment capability is the priority, then we can worry about the ads and leading video. Someone in the forums said that with the video taking up so much space at the top of articles it may be wise not to have a photo at the top following right after it, but better to lead in with a text capsule and put the main photo further down so we don’t lose the reader before they have even read one word. Makes sense I think.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 03, 2020:

Amen, John. How many readers will stay when they have to scroll past the ads (which, if you're not careful lead to you vitalizing them)? I think the peppered ads and the leading video are detrimental not only to the authors, but to HP as a whole.

It seems another gripe has come about. But, lets get our comments back before we go there. Then again, will the current ad saturation even lead the reader to the point where they want to and are able to comment?

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 03, 2020:

Oh I am glad you asked Samantha that question, Shauna. I hope she answers it. Yes, I agree about those adds. It is a real chore to read an article peppered with adds, especially the same one three or four times throughout. It really takes away from the reading experience as it feels look a full on advertising assault.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 03, 2020:

If you don't mind me chiming in, I read it too. John and left a comment. I asked Samantha if she can give us a guestimated ETA for restoring comments on the niche sites that are now subject to the Maven front-end software.

I must say, though, the ads and leading video are very distracting and annoying. There are too many of them.

Get rid of the leading video and let our articles be the shining light.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 03, 2020:

Thank you for sharing that, Rupert. I did read it and was going to include it here for others to read but you did that for me. I hope Samantha is sincere and it happens sooner than later.

Rupert Taylor from Waterloo, Ontario, Canada on October 03, 2020:

Samantha Cubbison has weighed in with stuff about the migration to Maven most of which is gobbledygook to me except for one crucial statement

"We understand how important some of these features are to our users and community members (like comments, which we plan to reinstate)."

Full text here

https://hubpages.com/community/forum/349690/the-fu...

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 03, 2020:

Hi Li-Jen. I am pleased you found this informative about what's happening. Thanks for telling me you tried to comment on my Imaginary Friend article. You have to be quick before they move, which isn't easy when you can't be here all the time.

Li-Jen Hew on October 03, 2020:

Hi Jodah, thank you for this useful article especially since some of us may be away from HP for too long and updates us on the changes. I think I commented on your Imaginary Friend poem but it disappeared, because of the migration I assume. I have read it and it is a good thing to have something positive come out of the experience. Keep writing!

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 02, 2020:

Hopefully Ann looks back here then, Eric.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on October 02, 2020:

I just talked to my big sister about something and wanted to get back to Ann, but it got moved to Letterpyle or whatever. Kind of a bummer. I get the same thing with Linda sometimes. I reckon it is just a change that is something to miss the old.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 02, 2020:

I am happy that you enjoyed this article, and the video, Brenda. I agree with you about the comments and feedback. That is a very important part of what makes HubPages a community and It needs to be restored. Take care.

BRENDA ARLEDGE from Washington Court House on October 02, 2020:

John,

I love your article.

I miss the ability to communicate with other Hubbers.

The feedback I received on my work gives me the inspiration to keep going.

The video at the end is awesome.

Great work...let's see how this next month goes.

Until next time...enjoy each moment.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 02, 2020:

No Kyler there isn’t. I tested it on my newest hub and was unable to do it. I guess you just have to deny or delete comments you don’t like. There have been a lot of features that we once had here that have changed or no longer exist. Often we aren’t told and just have to find out by accident or trial and error.

Kyler J Falk from California on October 02, 2020:

I have officially confirmed that there is no way to completely disable comments. It really would be nice if they allowed authors to choose whether or not they wanted them. As for your retort, Shauna, there is no need to state the obvious to me; I was simply trying to get evidence of claims made in previous comments.

I wonder what made them ever decide to disallow authors that choice? Judging by how many people they ban for harassment, it seems like they could save money by just allowing people to remove the harassment altogether, no?

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 01, 2020:

Hi Jeremiah. I am glad that this article was informative and helpful for you.

JEREMIAH MWANIKI KILUNDA from Nairobi on October 01, 2020:

Thanks for sharing your experience on hubpages. As a new Huber, I have gained a lot from this article. I have been searching this kind of information on google for a long time but I thank God I have finally got it from a friend. Thanks a million.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 01, 2020:

Hello Kalorama. It is good to see a new face. Yes, well I am fortunate that articles like this are staying on HubPages so can still get comments. I hope that changes soon in regard to the network sites as well. We need comments to remain a community.

Kalpana Iyer from India on October 01, 2020:

I used to be on Squidoo too and preferred Squidoo over Hubpages. Then I went on a break, because life happened, and now I am back to niche and network sites. I used to post articles in between but hardly interacted so I was not too aware of all the new changes. I am missing the comments section the most! Interaction is key.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 01, 2020:

Kyler, I don't think anyone on this thread will try deleting the comments section on a new article. We're fighting FOR comments, not the opposite. But I think the solution may work for you if it's still available.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on October 01, 2020:

I humbly wait to learn more. But I see a kind of dilemma here. I create for the sake of the art, and muse of course. But I share as it may touch another. And their reaction is not a part of my creation, it is of itself.

Yet not wanting a reaction seems like a conundrum. I think worthy to consider..

Kyler J Falk from California on October 01, 2020:

If no one gets to it before me, I'll check it out after work and see what can be done. However, if anyone does get to check it out through a new article, let us all know, please!

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 01, 2020:

Yeah, because comments are already there. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can delete the comments module before you hit Publish when first posting the article.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on October 01, 2020:

I thought you could too Shauna, but maybe that has changed to only be able to reposition it. I know if you go back to edit the hub afterwards you can’t delete it.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on October 01, 2020:

If I'm not mistaken, you can delete the comments module when you're initially posting your article, before hitting the Publish button.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Thank you for supporting our concerns over the future of comments, Nithya. Hopefully they will be restored soon.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Thank you for sharing that link, Rinita. I remain optimistic that comments will soon be enable. Fingers crossed.

Nithya Venkat from Dubai on September 30, 2020:

John I look forward to reading the comments after I publish. Without the comment section the life of the article will be lost. I hope they activate the comment box soon. Thank you for highlighting all the changes that are going on currently, much appreciated.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

It seems you may be correct, Kyler. This feature must have been disabled. I tried and could only find the choices you mention.

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on September 30, 2020:

Truthfully I never tried to get rid of the comments capsule. Perhaps I stand corrected. I just thought it was another capsule.

I have one in the hopper. I think when I publish tomorrow I will try to block all comments. Kind of like publishing without critics. Maybe I will not be so nervous publishing.

But then what about my buddies? I don't seem to have a handle on this with over 25,000 comments. Live and learn. Thanks John for putting up with this and guiding us into the new.

Rinita Sen on September 30, 2020:

Hi John, here's the response I received for my email. Thought would share.

Hello,

Articles migrated to the new design will not be able to accept new comments. This is not permanent and will be fixed at a later date.

Here is the original forum announcement which includes a section about comments: https://hubpages.com/community/forum/348706/import...

Thanks,

Matt

Team HubPages

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

I don't think that disable feature is there anymore, as I followed the steps and the only options available on my articles are to prevent auto acceptance, and guests. Are you able to find the, "disable future comments," feature that link discusses? I'm at a loss.

Anupam Mitu from MUMBAI on September 30, 2020:

@Eric I agree with you. Any website or forum which doesn't want to get into any political mess or other such problems will have to do that willingly or unwillingly. A few weeks ago facebook too had its new rules and regulations stating that it is free to remove or promote any post or comment. There are so many issues involved. But this is snatching one of our basic rights, the right to share our opinions. Hope it will be better with time.

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

SWEET! If you could please approve my previous comment to Eric, so that he may get my response that would be awesome!

I'm going to go give this a shot, and may I never have to deal with garbage opinions ever again!

I wish I could sit and write about traveling for these riots, but it'd be a conflict of interests with my employers.

Anupam Mitu from MUMBAI on September 30, 2020:

Thanks John for sharing this link. It looks like it's a well organised plan by the team and it has just been implemented now though was in process for a long time as I remember a few discussion forums in which a few famous writers were talking about this comment issue and they wanted the comment option to be removed

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Yes, Eric. I have seen quite a number of hubs that didn’t allow comments so I was sure there was a way to disable them. I was wondering if that had changed recently, but the blog still says you can. It that I would ever want to do that, but each to his own. Good points in regard the legality in regard to defamation etc.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Kyler, check this out:

https://blog.hubpages.com/2014/07/22/comment-manag...

This gives you an option to disable all future comments.

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

I've been on the road and in the air for work, Eric, and I no longer reside in Corona, anyways. I need to change that up at some point! As far as I know, there have been no riots in Corona, CA. Could you link me to these articles with disabled comments sections, via the contact author selection on my profile?

I previously asked Matt about disabling comments completely, and he said there was no way to disable them completely as well. It is possible it has changed since then, and I'd be excited to learn otherwise!

Eric Dierker from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A. on September 30, 2020:

This caught my eye. A desire to not allow comments. And that there was rioting in Corona, I had not heard that. Certainly I have seen many a hub with the comment section not included. Especially by evangelists not wanting to be questioned which is fair.

But for the moderator to do it, seems a little kinky. The more we are edited and moderated and censored the more the legal position that it is HP publishing things and not us. Just saying if it is defamation HP is on the hook with this new system. Not me.

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

Just rechecked, and I'm not finding this alleged ability to disable comments, only to require they need approval. Judging by your confident tone, there must be something extremely simple I'm missing, or the ability does not actually exist, as I stated.

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

How do we completely disable the feature? I have seen we are able to disable auto approval, and guests commenting, but I don't know how to completely disable them. I've also seen people whinge about the transfer hurting their traffic, but it skyrocketed all my LevelSkip articles and even my SoapBoxie articles that only got transferred when I first started writing articles.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Thanks for supporting this stand, Ms Dora. I hope comments are resurrected soon on the niche sites too. I am not intending to go anywhere else though, so let's see what happens.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

I am sorry to hear that, Dream Lover. But, why doesn't it surprise me? I hope that changes and we do get a response at some stage.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Kyler, I am sure there are some out there who agree with your views related to comments. I personally have never received any hateful comments (well one, years ago over a climate change article.)Did you know we already had the power to disable comments if we chose? Obviously not.

Yes, the new format is ugly, and we will see if it generates more traffic. Many are saying traffic is down and earning because in some countries ads haven't been showing etc.

At least you agree that Letterpile should have comments. I hope the riots stop there sooner than later so you can concentrate more on HubPages.

Dora Weithers from The Caribbean on September 30, 2020:

Jodah, I'm with you concerning the importance of community. I am hoping that the option for comments will soon be added on niche sites. I'm also hoping that all my best HP friends, including you Jodah, will continue to write here.

Dream Lover from Zagreb on September 30, 2020:

I sent 8 messages and guess what.....admin is still in the bed and he doesn't give a f*** about us!

Kyler J Falk from California on September 30, 2020:

Generally, I've found most of the comments on my comment sections used as a way to spread hatred, or otherwise contribute to the ever-growing problem of performative cruelty. Granted, I have become increasingly contentious in my writings due to this hostility all-too-present in the community, but I fully welcome the removal of the comments feature. Even on sites that do it better, there is rarely anything of value stated, by anyone other than the author, and more hate-driven arguments are found than useful info.

As it concerns the removal of personalized features, I just wish they'd make the format less ugly for what they did keep. The black and white hurts my eyes, and the personal bio is in a silly area. Everything else has led to increased earnings, traffic, and impressions, though, so I'm not about to complain.

LetterPile is the only niche that actually needs the comment section, and the shift from a social site to a more professional format is something I welcome in its entirety. So long as it remains on HubPages, which is easy to accomplish through writing style and formatting, you get to keep your comments section. Alas, I think they have a plan to test traffic without comments, as opposed to what the current system is, and choose the more effective method for earning, which is objectively the best method of measuring success.

I hope, and I pray, that they keep the comments section gone, or enable authors the power to remove it completely if they so choose. Can't wait for these stupid protests and riots to be over, so I can get back to HubPages being my only problem! I want to write again!

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Yes, Rupert..the roaring silence! There have been a couple of other articles in regard to the same situation...and neither of those authors have had any response from admin either. There has been a little progress however, now if you click the author’s name, their bio comes up and under that a list of the other articles they have on that niche site. Still nothing on active comments being restored though.

Rupert Taylor from Waterloo, Ontario, Canada on September 30, 2020:

We are three days into this thread and do you hear that ominous silence? Not a peep out of admin. Doesn’t that rather signal the level of importance they attach to this issue?

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Hi LaZeric, thank you for reading and glad this article proved informative. You can write fiction here, but graphic love scenes would certainly be a problem.

LaZeric Freeman from Hammond on September 30, 2020:

I did not know that all of this was going on. Very informative. I don't come on everyday for the simple reason that I write mostly fiction and feel like my hands are tied when it comes to writing graphic love scenes in my stories

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Sorry to hear that you became frantic that this may have been a bug, Rinita. I wish it was just that and required a simple fix. It is good that you emailed the staff at HubPages though because the more they see people’s concern the more chance there will be that they will actually seek a solution to reinstall active comments.

I first saw people raising issues about the new Maven format that the niche sites were moving to In the forums and the inability to post comments was just one of the problems raised. Then Shauna Bowling (Bravewarrior) and Carb Diva posted hubs expressing their concerns, so I said I would do the same.

You are so right though, without the community support through comments, HubPages is nothing. Thank you for reading.

Rinita Sen on September 30, 2020:

Ah! I wish I had read this before getting all frantic about the comments thing and sending them an email about it. I even reported a bug. Silly me. I hope they iron it out soon. Without the community support, Hubpages is nothing. Thanks for writing this. Hope this article captures the attention of the powers that be.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 30, 2020:

Lora, you stated that so well. I agree totally, and it is the whole point of writing this piece. I just hope we can make them listen and actually care enough to act on our concerns. Thank you for your support.

Lora Hollings on September 30, 2020:

The community of writers here has sustained many and helped them develop their craft. Many would have left long before now, if it weren't for the support and encouragement that they received from other writers.There's a sense that others value who you are and your work when you get comments or feedback from other writers. It is the sense of community that united the writers here and probably made them strive harder, challenging themselves to do better. If this is taken away, then there's a real possibility that the quality of writing may go down as the support from their peers has been taken away. It seems as if this would be inimical to not only the needs of the writers here but to the publishers as well.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 29, 2020:

Hang in there Audrey. We are not giving up easily. None of us want to lose this community so we will fight for comments to be reinstated at least.

Audrey Hunt from Idyllwild Ca. on September 29, 2020:

Thanks, John. I have voiced my disappointments with these new changes. I feel like the "air" has been let out of my balloon. I'm on the fence at this time. Trying to decide what to do. I truly love my HP friends and the growth that has come to me as a writer.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 29, 2020:

Wow, the 18th page. Things are looking up haha.

Anya Ali from Rabwah, Pakistan on September 29, 2020:

Just now, I used Google to search for 'a writing community' and found this hub on the eighteenth page.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 29, 2020:

Good to hear Shauna.i won’t either. Not until at least comments are restored.

Shauna L Bowling from Central Florida on September 29, 2020:

John, I'm not giving up the fight. We're far from regaining what we've lost. I agree with you, more needs to be done to feature each author in a clear manner. And restoring comments remains the biggest issue at the moment. HP will soon realize that the only way to shut us up is to give us what we want, need, and deserve.

John Hansen (author) from Queensland Australia on September 29, 2020:

Thank you Devika, I am glad you found this informative and you learnt some things you weren’t aware of.