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Hub score - Hubris?

Retired counselor, 341 short stories published by FSU. I have 4 sons, love sharing photography, writing, love travel, sunshine, sea & Grace.


I love writing and love to share my experiences with others. When I first found HubPages, I hadn't realized the hubs were scored, so initially I paid no heed to my number. However, when I caught on to the fact that this was a value of my work and hub activity, then I became interested. Each time my score went up or down a little, so did my smile.

Lets face it, improving ones score is insidious and infectious. I caught the hub bug about two months ago having come back to Hub Pages after a few months writing elsewhere. I was surprised to find I had a score in the 80's (after months with no added stories or hub activity) and was encouraged by kind comments on my hubs from fellow writers.

I was further titillated with the new accolades and so with reawakened interest I decided to find out how to affect my score without writing a new hub. After tweaking a couple of the stories by adding more links (now we also have Hub Karma to worry about) I noticed my score went up 5 points, then dropped 2, up 1 etc. I noted that my hub score (and smiles) climb rapidly with a new hub and then drop after a few days; it obviously pays to keep up productivity, and to keep smiling :-)

I wondered how I could more accurately manage these score (mood) swings. I found the technical answers to this question within the many helpful hubs on 'how to improve your hub score.' But in this hub I'm more interested in discussing the hook that these "quantifiable's" emote.

I mean, why would I be bothered by a number someone ascribes to my hub, when I realize the hub score isn't based just on writing talent and hub content? I think maybe because its a form of judgment and we don't write to be judged...or do we?

Being scored reaches the roots of the need for approval, pride in ones work, competitiveness, insecurity, etc. Writers put themselves out there ~ a part of the writer's essence is etched into every hub. So maybe that part feels judged and pride comes into play. On the whole I believe most of us aren't writing on Hub pages to make money or to be judged, but because we love to share through writing. (That in itself is an emotional act ).

Having read my share of other hubs, I'm amazed at the large number of excellent and talented writers on Hub Pages, and I feel humbled in this esteemed company. I've also noticed that the hub score doesn't necessarily reflect the talent of the writer, or the content of the hub.

So meanwhile, I find myself content when I have fan mail, when my score has gone up and when I have comments to read, but also a little pissed off when my score drops seemingly arbitrarily. It's hard not to get caught up when it's somewhat outside of your control. (what, a control freak, moi? Never!).

So, I would really appreciate your feedback on the emotion attached to your 'number.' Thanks for your input in the following poll:


Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on February 26, 2012:

Yes, ThoughtMonkey, I agree with you! Thanks for voting and I appreciate your comments :-)

ThoughtMonkey from United Kingdon on February 24, 2012:

Being new to this and not knowing what I do right when I do it or what I do wrong when I do that I find the scoring very baffling. I enjoyed reading your thoughts, thank you I voted you up! I assume that is the thing to do when you like someone writing.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on March 15, 2011:

Hi tnderhrt23 ~ I love your poetry (your heart and your humor). These HubScores are really governed by productivity and content - for example, I doubt that poetry will ever get as high a score as a hub about how to make money!

I would think those who maintain 100 score work very hard to keep it that way ~ personally, I only write when I want to and when I feel inspired in some way. Thanks for your comments and for allowing me to link onto your fun hub :-) Helen

tnderhrt23 on March 15, 2011:

brightforyou, thank you for directing me to say it with grace, honesty and class! Yes I think those numbers hook the pride a control? let's not speak of it! LOLOLOL! Hugs for a job well done here!

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Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on February 22, 2011:

Hi arthurchappell, I agree. I wish we weren't scored. It takes away from the traffic from those who are talented writer, but don't have the time or inclination to write every day or write about certain 'sell-able' topics!

I agree the 'yo-yo' effect makes no sense!

Thanks for stopping by and adding to the debate!

arthurchappell from Manchester, England on February 22, 2011:

it's only natural to be affected by your hub score - one of mine dropped to about 42 before going up to the mid-60's. It's very hard to predict a trend when they yo-yo like that

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on January 28, 2011:

Hi artlader, welcome to hubpages. Thanks for stopping by and for your kind comments. I look forward to reading your hubs! Helen :-)

artlader from Aiken, South Carolina, USA on January 28, 2011:

Hi, Brightforyou,

I clicked on the "useful" button and voted you up.

As for the feedback you requested, well, I guess I am too new to make an informed statement, but I am a teacher and we usually like rubrics.

The bottom line is, I do not like not knowing how to get an "A," I guess.


Thank you for an informative, well-written hub.



Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on November 11, 2010:

Thanks Leni - I think there are a lot of us hubbers who are dubious about the Hub scores!

Leni Sands from UK on November 11, 2010:

Really useful hub. Thanks.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on August 17, 2010:

Hi antimatter, thank you for your comments; I'm glad you are enjoying the scoring challenge!

antimatter from United States on August 16, 2010:

Great article. The hub score seems a little mysterious to me. I let this account sit for two years with no hubs and my score was down to 41, starting improving it about a month ago. It's a fun challenge.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on August 03, 2010:

Thanks Micky Dee - its about time I got on with writing some new hubs!

Micky Dee on August 03, 2010:

Sometimes I allow a hub to sit unpublished for a couple days and the score rises and my overall score isn't affected.

Congrats on being here a year!

Duchess OBlunt on July 12, 2010:

Why thank you brightforyou! I will return the compliment

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on July 10, 2010:

Hi Duchess - thanks for the comment. From what I have observed, those talented writers who write about popular topics and publish a hub frequently (as well as contributing with comments, fan mail, questions, answers and links within text) are the ones with the highest scores... way too much work for me. I write when I want to and because I want to share something with others. I love your work Duchess and love the nom de plume!

Duchess OBlunt on July 08, 2010:

How the scores are tallied still has me baffled, but I have given up trying to understand it. I like the community here, so I'll stick around, but I wish there was some clear cut way to figure it out. I haven't found it yet.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 22, 2010:

Hi 2patricias thanks for your vote and comment! Glad to hear I'm not the only one... :-) PS I love your hubs!

2patricias from Sussex by the Sea on June 22, 2010:

I ticked the 'funny' box, but as in funny-peculiar. Why should I care about my hub score - but I do! Not a lot, but I do look at it and when it is high feel happier.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 18, 2010:

Hi Alissa, thanks for voting on my hub - I find the scoring a distraction, especially when the scoring doesn't seem to make any sense! I'm looking forward to reading your hubs!

Alissa Margaret on June 18, 2010:

Really well written! I just joined HubPages myself and don't particularly enjoy the scoring either. Rated up and voted!

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 18, 2010:

thanks Rebecca, you've got some great hubs - I look forward to reading more!

Rebecca E. from Canada on June 17, 2010:

as usual an very informative hub keep up the good work. Keep on writing. For my own vote it was score affects me slightly, but I am quite busy with hubpages so there you go. Rated up and useful

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 17, 2010:


Not bothered about my score at all. 0

The score affects me slightly. 63%

The score affects me quite a bit. 25%

I don't like being scored at all. 13%

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 16, 2010:

Nice to meet you suny51 thanks for your comments - I look forward to reading your hubs!

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 16, 2010:

Thanks for your comment green tea-cher I appreciate your continued support!

suny51 on June 16, 2010:

Please count me in,I am here just for the sake of fun of all the experience and getting to know so many intellectual and interesting people.

green tea-cher on June 16, 2010:

Great topic, especially for new Hubbers! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 16, 2010:

Hi Lori

I remember you well, we talked about how we knew the meaning of words (when we were young) before we were told their meaning. Thanks for your kind comments - I think I know what you mean about becoming the score 'becoming an amusement' but I also think it brings it's fair share of angst.

Laurel Rogers from Bishop, Ca on June 16, 2010:

brightforyou-what a fabulous hub! I know I used to feel so distressed at my varying scores, asking the HubGods, "What's going ON??"

Ah, after time, it does become somewhat of an amusement.

Great job.

petermdhart from Cornwall, UK on June 16, 2010:

Well said!

Helen Lewis (author) from Florida on June 16, 2010:

Wow, just logged on and found your comments; thanks you guys, its good to feel I'm not the only one ~ Thank you for your support!

Petra Vlah from Los Angeles on June 16, 2010:

The score is mostly affected by activity - witing - commenting - following others - forum participation (every time you push a button)

The activity is being indexed by Google and we know what motivates Google; talent is not one of the factors for sure, content about specific topics, where Google can attache adds and make a Profit, is

Belinda Hodge from Brisbane Australia on June 16, 2010:

I admit to finding the Hub Score baffling and I've never bothered to find out what I can do to make it go up! Now you've got me interested. Great links and references - thank you.

words cocktail from Australia on June 16, 2010:

:) I fail totally to understand the technicalities of Hubpages. It is easy and many hubbers have made it easier with their experiences but I still can not get the hang of adsense/amazon/ebay-whatever,SEOs etc. etc.

So, I come and write to vent and share. I like the community hubpages has and it gave me friends. I also admit that there are times when I want to write for money but I fail. Absolutely FAIL and I do not regret at all.:)

M Selvey, MSc from United Kingdom on June 16, 2010:

"On the whole I believe most of us aren't writing on Hubpages to make money or to be judged, but because we love to share through writing. (That in itself is an emotional act )"

You hit it on the head there! I think you have expressed the thoughts of many with this hub - well done!

I also think it is possible there may be some petty game-playing that goes on with scores but as long as people remember why they are here, this shouldn't matter. Just keep writing and keep enjoying what you are doing!

Voted up and useful!

2uesday on June 16, 2010:

I like your style of writing,thought provoking subject, thank you. it is always interesting to read what other Hubbers feel about hubscores etc. so this was well worth the read. Especially as I have seen some excellent writers hurt by scores.

Once you know that the hubscore is not based on quality it is easier to 'detach' from being as interested or bothered by it. At one stage I found it annoying that my most popular hub was not one I would have picked.

Andrew from Italy on June 16, 2010:

Voted up and useful, very useful. I don't like much scores, especially because, as you said, many times they do not at all reflect talent, but other things. And we all are affected when scores go down. :)

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