As a psychology major at the University of North Texas, C. E. Clark found, and continues to find psychology endlessly fascinating.
Research shows that tall people, both men and women, tend to be more successful in their careers than short people. At the same time, there are many successful people who are also short.
A few successful short people include Senator John McCain (5’7”), Jon Stewart (5’7”), Prince (5’2”), James Madison, 4th President of the U.S. at 5’4”), Dolly Parton (5’0”), Martin Luther King (5’7”), and Danny Devito (5’0”).
Romantically Speaking, Men Have the Advantage Where Height Is Concerned
When it comes to romantic interests, women generally prefer men who are a couple of inches taller than themselves. There is a difference between preferring tall men (6 feet tall and over), and preferring men a couple of inches taller than themselves.
Men usually prefer petite women romantically speaking, regardless of their own height. Men would seem to have the advantage when it comes to romantic preferences of the opposite sex. Women prefer men who are a little taller than themselves, while men want tiny, short, women even when they are 6 feet tall and over.
Biology and Evolution May Play a Part In Our Attitudes On Height
“Theoretically, the importance of height has evolutionary origins, because animals use height as an index for power and strength when making fight-or-flight decisions. Quoting D. G. Freedman (1979), “Throughout nature the rule is the bigger, the more dangerous.” Thus, from a socio-biological perspective, height equals power and therefore demands respect, (Judge).”
Does taller mean smarter?
Are Tall People Smarter?
Some researchers have gone so far as to say that taller people are more successful simply because they are smarter. This is an interesting way of looking at things. You see, the reason some people are taller is not just a result of genetics as one might expect, but also of socioeconomic level, (Hall).
Underprivileged children do not always receive the necessary proper nutrition either prenatally or postnatally. That can obviously affect not only their height (undernourished children tend to be shorter among other things), but also their brain development, which may in turn affect their intelligence and ability to learn, (Hall). This would be a good reason to see that all pregnant women and all children receive good nutrition. After all, children are the future of our country are they not?
What it really boils down to where intelligence is concerned, in my humble opinion, is that people who reach their height potential, whether the end result is taller or shorter on average, tend to be smarter than people who do not, because they almost certainly received the necessary nutrients and other growth requirements during gestation and their postnatal years necessary to reach their biological potential. Therefore one cannot assume short people are less intelligent than tall people because even though some people are short, they may still have reached their optimum height potential.
Employers Seem To Prefer Taller Employees
It is true that many employers equate tallness with more capability and competence. Tall people are hired more often and promoted more often than short people, when employers must choose between tall and short candidates (Judge).
An interesting bit of trivia that pertains to this topic is the fact that “in the 28 presidential elections between 1790 and 2011, 18 of the winning candidates have been taller than their opponents,” (Wikipedia).
The Short and the Tall of It
What Part Does Height Play In Your Assessment of People?
What is your opinion on height? Is it a consideration when deciding to date someone? Do you think tall people are smarter or easier going? (Some people believe short people suffer from a neurosis referred to as the Napoleon Complex where a person’s “short stature makes them feel inadequate, leading to an inferiority complex and the adoption of overaggressive behavior to compensate for lack of height and power,” (Judge).
As with so many common beliefs some people hold, sometimes it is a good idea to take inventory of just what you believe and why you believe it. It may be time to tweak your beliefs on height . . .
References for this hub:
Hall, Stephen S. “Success Is Relative, and Height Isn’t Everything.” The New York Times, Health November 28, 2006: n. page. Online. Internet. 22 November 2011. Available http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/health/28height.html
Judge, Timothy A., and Cable, Daniel M. “The Effect of Physical Height on Workplace Success and Income: Preliminary Test of a Theoretical Model.” Journal of Applied Psychology 2004, Vol. 89, No. 3,428-441. Online. Internet. 22 November 2011. Available faculty.washington.edu/mdj3/MGMT580/Readings/.../Judge.pdf
Wikipedia. Height Discrimination. October 30, 20ll. Online. Internet. 22 November 2011. Available http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination
Wikipedia. Heights of Presidents of the United States and presidential candidates. November 2 2011. Online. Internet. 22 November 2011. Available http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_and_presidential_candidates
Robert Sacchi on December 31, 2016:
I believe there are some studies that bear that out.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 31, 2016:
Robert Sacchi, I was listening to/watching videos about intelligence and here is one of the videos that stated taller people are smarter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSx_rMsPy08
There were a few other videos that did the same, but I can't remember how I found them or which ones they were. Several alluded to a study done at Princeton University that determined taller people are smarter: https://www.princeton.edu/rpds/news/archive/?id=10...
Robert Sacchi on December 30, 2016:
Do you remember where you read the article?
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 30, 2016:
Robert Sacchi, thank you for reading and commenting on this article. I read just yesterday that taller people are usually smarter than shorter people.
This last election was such a fiasco I wonder if they'll ever get it sorted out. I would say that Hillary's being a woman hurt her more than her height since no one expects a woman to be taller than a man, but in fact she got 3 million more votes than Trump, so really it was the Electoral College that caused the problem rather than doing it's job of preventing an unqualified person from becoming president.
Robert Sacchi on December 08, 2016:
In the latest presidential election height proved a better predictor than the experts. More telling might be the results of presidential elections starting in the 20th century. That is when technology enabled the populace to get the, pardon the pun, full measure of the candidates. Your example of successful people includes comics. In the case of Danny Divito he got his start by playing Louie, the short office tyrant. An interesting indicator is how people view successful people based on a successful person's height.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 07, 2014:
Peggy W, thank you for Google+ing and sharing this article!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 05, 2014:
Vily_far, thank you for stopping by. That is exactly what I wrote about here. People's attitudes towards tall people is what keeps the idea that taller is smarter alive.
It's been a while, but all the way through elementary school I was one of the tallest kids in the class. I always felt like a giant. I'm only 5'5" but during early age that is pretty tall. I was that tall at age 11 and always tall for my age.
It's still really just societies silly ideas that men must be taller than their girlfriends or wives. You should reprogram yourself about that, and don't expect it to be easy, but with diligence it can be done. Some short men dream about tall women, yes they do . . .;)
vily_far on July 02, 2014:
I've also read a couple of studies that taller people tend to be more successful because of the attitude that others have towards them. As a tall girl, however, I find it a bit challenging, especially if I want to wear high heels in the company of shorter guys :). It tends to be a bit awkward.
Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on July 01, 2014:
I am sending this hub of yours to G+ this time and will once again share.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on May 27, 2014:
EvilOne, thanks for stopping by and sharing your frustration. Lots of short guys are successful and I even named a few in this article. Giving up even before you try is all but a guarantee for failure.
Never color inside the lines -- boring is far worse than being short. :)
EvilOne on May 25, 2014:
Who says Im any different from other people?
Height is everything in western, or perhaps all societies (human nature).
I don't want a short girl either, no matter how hypocritical it sounds - that's just how it is.
If I got one, I would dump her for a taller one in a flash. Unfortunately, its awkward with taller girls (I freeze out) and even when one does want me (its happened quite a few times because I have a classically good looking face - unlike some, for example, chinese guys who have a more nerdy face) I freeze out. Also being around men with arms thicker than my neck makes me freeze out too. Its too dangerous for a short guy to get a genuinely good looking girlfriend in western countries unless hes super buff and has no sense of self preservation.
Also, much of human life is instinct... I have the same instinct that makes men and women look down upon short men as vaguely pathetic. So I see myself as pathetic as well.
Even if I did get a tall/average height girl, overcoming internal instinctual barriers and external stigmas - it wont change that men treat me as a permanent afterthought... making it impossible for me to work to my potential (why should I when I know Ill never move up to cushy management level jobs later on in life because an unstated requirement is to be average height to tall? - Im not stupid).
Im not sure what I am going to do, but stupid color in the lines BS like starting a dating service isn't for me. Ill stay a few more years and make some money... maybe if I hit it off with a great girl, Ill stay. If not, I'll leave for asia (unlike short white guys, I at least have a home country to go to, even though Ive only ever lived there for about a year, where Im about average sized) - the girls there aren't very pretty, and its dirt poor, but Im the same size as other males so I cannot be intimidated easily, I will be automatically respected by people, and I suppose if all the girls around me are unattractive, I wont really notice at all.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 10, 2014:
EvilOne? Interesting handle. Thank you for taking time to read this article and share you own experience.
I understand what you're saying and I empathize. I know for the most part what you say is true. For some reason the shortest women and the tallest men seem to prefer each other, but have you ever watched them slow dancing? Or even dancing any kind of dance that requires contact? Like the jitterbug or cotton eyed joe, and there are many others.
Have you considered starting a dating service for short people? You might find someone for yourself and make some money too. After all, you are not alone in your frustration even though it may seem that way.
Networking with other short men and discovering how they handle that issue can be very helpful, and together in a group, you may find a great solution. Most of the short women I know are not happy to be short either -- I realize short women have the advantage socially, even over us average or tall women.
Put your math talent to work and start a dating service for short people only. No men over 5'5" and no women over 5'2". Insist they sign up in person and get measured for height and give a discount to the first hundred people who show up.
In addition to forming a membership, plan some weekly meetings that include fun things to do so these people can actually get to know each other instead of just reading a description and looking at a picture to decide if they want to meet.
Have some competitions with cool prizes (not expensive, but cool) for the winners. Competitions that will break the ice and get people communicating and laughing. You can do it. Attitude is everything.
EvilOne on March 08, 2014:
Height really is the only thing that matters if you are a below average height male, or from a race that is below average as a norm.
I stand 5'2, so I know exactly what Im talking about.
Studies show that males who are 2 standard deviations below the norm have twice the suicide rate as males 2 standard deviations above the norm.
Also, the couples where the male is shorter than the female average out to only 65% of the time of male taller/female shorter (100%). And this is a biased source that only looked at formed couples - Id bet when you take the whole population into account, its worse.
Frankly, Ive given up on life. Im smart enough to use math and make a living, but I don't care to be humiliated on the social or dating scene anymore.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on February 14, 2014:
Tall fellow, thank you for stopping by and commenting on this article.
This is actually a report on research that has been done, which I pointed out in this article. It's not a theory, it's a report on studies that have been done and I've posted my references.
So while what you say makes good sense, and is very probably what started people thinking bigger or taller is better, it isn't necessarily what keeps that belief alive.
People may understand and believe exactly what you have stated in your comments if you were to ask them, however when it comes to opinions and attitudes, they are often heavily influenced by their subconscious mind. What people say or think they believe may not play out in their actions. People may have certain attitudes and beliefs and not even know it because those attitudes and beliefs are hidden in their subconscious.
I doubt voters consciously choose to vote for the taller candidate in presidential elections, yet that is how many people end up voting or the taller candidate would not win. Since 1900 the taller candidate for the U.S. presidency has always won.
Employers/hiring managers more often than not, according to studies, choose the taller applicant for their job openings. I doubt very much if this is a conscious decision in most cases. Sometimes height may matter, like in playing basketball, but as you say, nowadays size and brawn are rarely needed for most jobs. So it is a subconscious belief that many people have that taller equals smarter, and that influences their decisions in many areas, not just in choosing an employee.
Just as it is easy to look at presidential elections over the years and see whether the tallest candidate won, so it is possible to look at the employment records of various companies who are willing to cooperate and see how tall the candidates were for various jobs and which of them was hired.
Your comments make sense, but in practice a surprising number of people do not use logic -- not even the men. ;)
Tall fellow on February 11, 2014:
I believe tallness as an advantage is diminishing over time as we move from a competitive to a cooperative culture. Being big and strong was great when the bottom line was a physical challenge. Now the bottom line is how many people you can get to work and make decisions together.
I think the theory needs refinement because it is not simple height equals success but rather being the tallest of the group equals leadership being success. Not being accepted as the group due to standoffish feelings equals failure.
I do believe you are right about setting the shorter peoples's fear at ease, however being creatures of learning by examples means that taller people would tend to develop standoffish traits due to seeing that behaviour as normal in others.
Just my two or three cents.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 30, 2013:
Thank you for commenting Per Nor. Agree that these are superficial characteristics that really mean very little regarding intelligence and talent, but societal traditions dictate that the man should be taller and the boss should look a certain way.
Even in the animal kingdom animals try to make themselves look bigger than they are to seem fiercer and more formidable, and I guess that is what people want in a boss, a husband, or even just an ordinary employee.
Like it or not, even though it may not seem logical overall, taller has the advantage where men are concerned, and in some situations that is true for women as well.
Per Nor on November 29, 2013:
Basically a manager/boss/ceo should be tall, it just seems natural, people don't want to be bossed around by a short manager, seems like a kid is telling em what to do! lol
As for relationships, it only seems natural for a male to be taller than the female, it's comfort, females like to feel protected, and a taller male will help them feel that way. It's the same as a male having to be older than the female, mature/proven male for the younger looking female.
These are just common thoughts though imo, but obviously these are not carved in stone as there exceptions to the height "rule"!
ULTIMATELY for the workforce or relationships, height/gender/colour/weight of a person shouldn't matter, it should be who has the right qualifications and character to get the job done! and or make you happy. :)
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on August 23, 2013:
TXSasquatch, you may note that I didn't suggest you shave your beard or mustache. Only that you show these people you are not a threat. As for the little guys, I think pretty much everything bothers the ones who let their shortness be an issue. Even strong women are often perceived as a threat.
Well Sir, I'm a proud Yankee. Been here north of Dallas for several years, but I will never get used to the awful heat. I know people who live in Houston and things they have told me about Houston are the reason I have come to believe it is very different from DFW.
Sounds like you have conquered the problem. Sometimes other people's fears are about them, not about you, even though they may attempt in their own minds at least, to transfer their fear to you or something else.
I think your size would still give you the advantage most of the time if competing for a job or for a woman. The whole world doesn't love anybody, so there is bound to be the odd person here and there who is a bit standoffish. I agree -- you seem like a very nice fellow! :)
TXSasquatch on August 22, 2013:
Actually, it's usually the men who react more strongly. A woman may seem fearful at first, but she's likely to get over it quickly. On the other hand, a man--especially a small man with a Napoleon complex--is more likely to let the intimidation factor become a problem. I've always had better luck working with women, and I was lucky enough to spend fourteen years in a female-dominated business. Regardless, I have worn a full beard for most of the last quarter century, but I don't have any tattoos or piercings. If my facial hair is the problem, so be it. I ain't shaving--period!
I was born deep in the heart of Texas, raised near Dallas, and (after a few years of wandering around the country) have settled in the Houston area. I spent roughly twenty years in the Metroplex and have now been in Houston for almost that long. I haven't really noticed a big difference between them on this particular variable. Yes, on other points, they are way different, and I still (and will always) prefer Big D. Even so, on this particular point regarding reactions to my size, I haven't noticed a big difference between the two. It's too bad, too. I'm actually a rather nice fellow, and folks who know me often use your "teddy bear" descriptor. My size has certainly never bothered my wife, but then again, she's a pretty good-sized gal herself.
Oh, well, I'm at the age when this stuff matters less too me. I reckon I don't have much time left to worry about it. It's an interesting topic, though, and I appreciate your article and discussion. Thanks!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on August 22, 2013:
TXSasquatch, thank you for reading and commenting on this article, and for sharing your personal experience with this subject.
First of all, I love big and tall men and I love mustaches and beards too, but some people are fearful of men with hair on their face, tattoos, piercings, etc. I don't know if you have the latter, but older women and even some young women who were brought up in rather strict environments might find you scary because of your facial hair, or piercings, etc., if you have any. It's irrational, but sometimes people are . . .
What I would recommend is that you show them they're wrong. Instead of letting their flinch make you feel badly, whenever possible introduce yourself and be extra charming and show them they have nothing to fear. Be more outgoing than you might normally be. Show them you are really a big teddybear. I know lots of women who love big teddybears. They are very popular here in Texas. I note you are in Houston, but that's a totally different environment from here in the DFW area.
I don't know if you're married or not, but I mention women rather than men because it is usually women who fear people if someone is going to. Even if men are fearful (intimidated) they usually go out of their way not to show it, so I'm thinking it is the women who appear intimidated. Give them a big smile and show them with your courtesy, kindness, and great sense of humor that you are no threat whatever. That's my psychobabble for tonight!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on August 21, 2013:
Thank you moonlake, for tweeting and sharing this article!
TXSasquatch on August 21, 2013:
Very interesting. I've heard this theory before, but I can offer anecdotal evidence to the contrary. In case you didn't guess it from my screen name, I'm a rather large fellow--tall and wide. I've always perceived my size as a hindrance because it intimidates others. When I enter a room, I often see people flinch; they are literally afraid of me. Maybe it would be different if I were tall and skinny, but being larger than the average NFL lineman has certainly not been an advantage.
moonlake from America on August 20, 2013:
Tweeting this hub and shared it. Very interesting hub.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on July 15, 2013:
Thank you Deborah-Diane for commenting on and pinning this hub! As stated in this article, only 2 of the presidential candidates out of the last 20 presidential elections (1790-2011) were shorter than their opponents. That means the taller candidate has won about 90% of the time. One winner out of every 10 presidential elections was short.
Deborah-Diane from Orange County, California on July 10, 2013:
This is fascinating information that I am pinning to my board on "Interesting Articles." I have heard that when two candidates are running for a political office, the taller candidate wins far more that 50% of the time. I think this is fascinating because it would imply that political affiliations may be less important than height! Thanks!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on June 28, 2013:
Thank you Peggy W for pinning and tweeting this hub!
Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on June 24, 2013:
Time to pin this interesting hub and will also tweet it.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 24, 2013:
Thank you gmmurgirl for for commenting on this hub and for sharing your thoughts on this subject!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 23, 2013:
Thank you for reading and commenting on this hub Doodlehead! Also, appreciate that you shared your experience with tall people here. I haven't really noticed that sort of behavior, but I plan to pay better attention and see what happens. I'm of average height myself, so I'm sure that makes a difference too, in how I'm perceived by some people.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 21, 2013:
Thank you Tillsontitan for reading, commenting, and voting on this hub! I, too, have known lots of people who wished they were taller or shorter than they were. Most people seem to react to height subconsciously no matter how they say (or even believe) they feel about height. It almost seems to be one of those instinctive things we do. Even when we consciously believe one thing, we act differently and don't even realize it. Of course that doesn't apply to everyone (does anything?) as you pointed out.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 18, 2013:
Thank you Paul Kuehn for reading, commenting, voting on, and especially for sharing/pinning this hub!
Most of the way we react to height is subconscious and studies show that regardless of what we say we believe, most people tend to act in a manner to suggest they believe taller is stronger, smarter, and more in charge, etc.
As you know, the tallest presidential candidate all but always wins. It's also true that the tallest job applicant usually wins.
The way we behave regarding height is not necessarily a conscious decision. It is our subconscious (for the majority of people, obviously not all people) that directs our behavior and causes us to behave in a manner that suggests we believe taller is better in some way. Unfortunately, our subconscious communicates in subtle ways with our conscious and we are rarely aware of what it is telling us.
Studies show that tall people have the advantage in almost everything. That is because regardless of what we think consciously and say according to our conscious thoughts, our subconscious mind is telling us something different and we are acting on those subconscious directives.
Shan Moore from Philippines on March 17, 2013:
Some professions require height and similarly some people prefer taller partners. If a person is of average height I don't think there is much of a problem if you are really good at what you do. Unless a person is a model, I don't think height is really much of an issue in order to succeed or enjoy life. My mom would often tell me and my sister that height is one consideration when she was dating, but I don't really think much about it when I meet someone, as long as the other person has a great attitude and personality. Thanks for sharing this insightful hub.
Doodlehead from Northern California on March 17, 2013:
In my experience I feel people who are taller than I are more aggressive. For example, recently I was heading for a buffet choice and I was "zoomed in on" by another really tall women. I was "at" the buffet but she started dishing out her food. I was amazed.
This will probably offend many tall people, but this is my experience. I would say it happens regularly. In my opinion tall people feel "entitled" to be "first". Just my take.
Mary Craig from New York on March 17, 2013:
I'm sorry I missed this hub when it first came out. Not only do you pick interesting and different topics, but you research them well and as evidenced here, you get lots of comments. Touchy issue height...tall people want to be shorter and short people want to be taller, of course not all. Uh oh, should I not have said that? I don't know about smarter but tall people have always been looked up to! ( Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.). This was a very interesting and well thought out hub Au Fait with lots of food for thought.
Voted up, useful, and interesting.
Paul Richard Kuehn from Udorn City, Thailand on March 17, 2013:
This is a very interesting hub, and yes, I would have to agree that height does affect your success, especially if you are playing sports. Shorter people can be just as successful, but they have to work harder. My father once told me that it's how tall you are in your brain which really makes the most difference for success. I'm the same height that my father was 5'9", but my younger brother is 6'2". Voted up and sharing and Pinning.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on March 03, 2013:
Thank you for commenting on this hub Sweetie1. Unfortunately one must impress people enough to be allowed to show one's knowledge in the first place. People often form their opinion of others in a matter of seconds usually based on appearance and demeanor -- that's all they have to judge in the beginning. Research shows that most people, whether or not they realize it, are biased in favor of tall people.
sweetie1 from India on March 01, 2013:
I have never thought about this way about the tall person. Obviously now if i think then yes taller person do have some advantage in many things but ultimately it is your knowledge which counts.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 19, 2013:
Thank you buddhaanalysis, for reading and commenting on this hub! Height affects far more than dating or attraction of the opposite sex. It can affect your ability to be successful in your career, which affects your bank account, which affects your ability to make up for height with money! Sad but true.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 16, 2013:
Christy Zutautas, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub, and for sharing your experience!
buddhaanalysis on January 16, 2013:
I am six feet tall and stronger too ,it is much good height in India though have no dating experience cos dating kind of things are not common in my region.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 13, 2013:
Peggy W, thank you for reading, commenting, and sharing this hub! Agree entirely with every thing you wrote!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 12, 2013:
ishwaryaa22, thank you for stopping by to leave a comment. This is a research article and not one word in it is my own opinion. Nope, not one. Believe I did give reference for the studies that concluded that height does indeed make a difference and they weren't my own studies, but I thank you for flattering me with the credit for it. It is all subconscious, but has a very real affect in decision making just the same.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on January 12, 2013:
bizwin, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub! Agree that intelligence and personality are more important than physical features, but studies show you and I are in the minority here. Most people think taller is better and it's subconscious in many cases, so they may not even realize they're discriminating in regard to height.
Christy Zutautas on January 09, 2013:
Great hub, very interesting. It seems that shorter men really do have a disadvantage in certain areas. I know quite a few women that are only attracted to guys who are over six feet tall, but if a guy is ultra good looking or talented (like Tom Cruise) he can get away with being on the shorter side!
Ishwaryaa Dhandapani from Chennai, India on January 09, 2013:
An engaging and insightful hub! You voiced your views concerning the relative relationship between height and success very well. Height does not matter much. What matters is how a person conducts himself/herself in his/her career and life. 3Cs - confidence, character and charm count much more than height! I have seen several successful short people in real life. Well-done!
Thanks for SHARING. Useful & Interesting. Voted up
Christabel Evans from England, UK on January 09, 2013:
It's really nice to meet tall people, but I can say many of them are not as intelligent as the world perceive. Personally, I prefer intellectual to physical qualities. That's just me.
Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on January 08, 2013:
Hi Au fait,
I have read similar statistics that taller people generally are preferred when it comes to being hired for jobs, etc. Also better looking people tend to do better. Fair? Of course not and it has nothing to do with talents or intelligence...but those are just the prejudices and perceptions. There are always the exceptions.
As to how to approach life with what we have inherited...just do the best we can and approach every opportunity with enthusiasm and interest and move on. I was 5'7 1/2 inches but am in the years when I am starting to shrink a bit which happens with age. Ha! Up and interesting votes and will share. You are getting some interesting comments.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on September 13, 2012:
Thank you izettl for reading and commenting on my hub! Yes, I think you have some sage advice there. While most men can't seem to get past age and looks, height doesn't seem to bother them at all. Especially when it's accompanied by the necessities! ;)
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on September 12, 2012:
Thank you for reading and commenting on this hub, moonlake! Unfortunately Americans do not value their older population as they should. Instead of seeing older people as a useful resource of experience, they are looked down on as dotty and inept. I can't tell you how ridiculous it was in my gerontology class at the university where young people, mostly women under 23 years old in this class, were talking about how people over 50 weren't able to do this or that! Didn't have an interest in this or that. Didn't know or understand this and that. I don't know where young people get their ideas, but they are woefully wrong about older Americans. For one thing, 50 isn't that old. Wait 'til they reach that age and see for themselves and they get sidelined! ;)
Lizett from The Great Northwest on September 11, 2012:
Well this is easy. Yep tall people are smarter. I am 6' tall and I know this so I must be smarter. All joking aside, I noticed BOYS preferring shorter women in high school, but as soon as I left high school ,I had absolutely no problem getting a guy at 6' tall,even the short ones. I think curves like having some hips and boobs is what attracts guys...maybe hollywood wants tiny thin women. Models are tall...never knew one that had a problem getting a date.
moonlake from America on September 11, 2012:
Our son is not very tall, Tom Cruise in height. He has dated tall beautiful women and he has also dated petite women. I think it has a lot to do with the way they treat women. A woman knows when a man is nice and kind.
I'm short and when I was a teen I had no problem with boys liking me, tall or short. My husband is 5'10''.
Now that I am much older women seem to look down on me and treat me like I'm not smart or like a kid. I hate it.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on August 28, 2012:
Nicole S, thank you for commenting on my hub!
Nicole S Hanson from Minnesota on August 27, 2012:
Interesting hub! Thanks for sharing!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on May 24, 2012:
Sherry: Thank you for putting in your 2¢! Agree that a man's height should not be more important than his character, and his personality. I hope short men everywhere will take courage in knowing that their height may be noticed initially, but when they show off their many attributes, their height fades into the background and becomes unimportant.
Sherry Hewins from Sierra Foothills, CA on May 23, 2012:
Hi, just to put in my 2 cents worth, I am almost 5'2" and my husband is 6'2". I think I would like him to be at least a little shorter than he is, as I feel that we look kind of odd together and in a slow dance my face meets his chest. But overall this issue is not that important.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on May 23, 2012:
Richard: Thank you for commenting on my hub! I have listed the references I used for this hub. None of the information is my own personal opinion. It is all information taken from various studies, etc.
One thing I do know, women are more likely to settle for a shorter man because once they fall in love, height no longer matters. As for myself, I prefer men who are about 6'2" because that height seems a perfect compliment to my own height, but I have never had a relationship with a man over 6 feet tall, and most often they are 5'10-11".
I know a lot of women who end up marrying men who are not much taller than they are and who are sometimes the same height as they are.
Personally, I wouldn't take the specs people put on their dating site profile too seriously. Read my hub on Evolutionary Psyc and you will see that height isn't what matters when it comes to attraction -- it's smell.
Richard on May 20, 2012:
Au Fait, I have read many of you articles and have agreed 100 % with you, but in this case, and on one specific point I disagree with you. That is, short women want very tall men, rarely if at all, one or two inches taller. I am 5'4", so when I go to a dating site, just to check it out, I use the same parameters, and get the same results. Senior People Meet - paramaters 4'6" to 5'2", 40 to 55 years old, that the only parameters I use. I got 142 hits. 1 woman wanted a man 5'6" and another woman wanted a man 5'7", the other 140 wanted a man 5'8" or taller, and it seemed if they were shorter than 5', they wanted a man 6'1" to 7'9". not one woman wanted a man 2 inches taller, and 140 wanted a man 6"+. Maybe women who are around 5'7" or so, want a man a couple of inches taller. But in my world, and I am 70, it has always been that way. If I had to speculate about the 140 women, I would say "the short bitches, wanted a 3 legged man. Do the math. Again, your articles are always interesting and informative. Richard
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 04, 2011:
No need to apologize. Agree that research can be questionable sometimes. I actually found several references that all said the same thing regarding height being the cause of success in many cases, but I chose not to list them all. These research findings are not due to height actually making people smarter or better, and therefore more successful, but rather because of the importance people tend to assign to height, whether or not they realize they are doing it.
My purpose in writing this hub was to hopefully make people stop and think what their view on height is and whether or not their view makes sense. So often people make judgments on things that are, or should be, irrelevant. Like choosing a president because s/he looks good on camera.
Height is a source of consternation for a lot of people. I hope more people, as you seem to do, will realize that height is a superficial thing that has no real bearing on character, or value of an individual.
I truly appreciate all of your comments and your addition to the discussion. It just seemed with your one remark that you had not finished reading the entire hub because you seemed to be pointing out something as missing, that in fact was included in my hub. That even though people may have received good nourishment, they may still be short because that is their full potential due to genetics. Not all well nourished people will be tall because it was never in their genes to be tall in the first place.
Sincere thanks to you tropicalsnowangel, for your contributions, and welcome to hubpages!
TropicalSnowAngel from Orlando, FL on December 04, 2011:
Au fait: I apologize that you read my comment as a direct hit toward "your research". However I actually read the references that you state so there was no skimming of your article involved.
With my comment, I only meant to bring to light some of the problems which arise in the actual research. The research seems to state that height is the actual cause of a person's success rather than it being another symptom of the true root cause. I am only questioning the current research that you referenced and am not trying to bash your article (which it seems is the way you took it).
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 03, 2011:
Tropicalsnowangel: To respond as best I can to what I believe were questions:
In the U.S. women 5'7" and over are considered tall. Men 6' and over are considered tall. In the U.S. women 5'3" and under are considered short/petite. Men 5'7" and under are considered short. Everyone in the middle, between these stated heights, are considered average.
Research shows that taller people do better regardless of what country you want to talk about. What is tall in Zimbabwe? Ireland? Russia? I don't know, but whomever it is that falls into their respective definitions of tall is likely, according to research, to be more successful than persons considered short.
Most of the "statements" I made were the result of the research I did, and all references are given. They are not my opinion, but the findings of researchers. Please don't blame me for the way the rest of the world thinks. Honestly, I didn't influence them . . .
and I ask, indeed beg for mercy if it seems like I did all these research projects myself. Flattering on the one hand, that you think I did, but I cannot take all the credit. That would be dishonest.
One opinion I did state, relates to the fact that nutrition plays a big part in reaching one's potential height as well as affecting one's brain development. Therefore, people who have good nutrition during gestation and formative years are likely to be smarter than people who did not get good nutrition, regardless of their height. Sometimes shortness is entirely the result of genetics and has nothing to do with nutrition. One can be short and smart, as I stated in my hub. You seem to have missed that part
Anyway, I just want to say thank you for skimming my article and adding to the discussion!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 03, 2011:
Thank you barryseotech, for taking time to read my hub and leave a comment.
TropicalSnowAngel from Orlando, FL on December 02, 2011:
Just a few thoughts and questions...
1)There is no definition of "tall" or "short". What is tall exactly? Being a white woman, if I were sent to places such as China, I would be considered tall while here in the United States I am fairly average. Following your statements, would I then be more successful had I been born in China and grew to my current height? Probably not.
2)You indicate that you believe height affects overall success. How we measure success is another question of the day but ignoring that...the NY Times article states that Princeton economists stress, “environmental factors that are thought to influence cognitive development” affect height. If this is true, it is very likely that it is not a person's height or lack thereof that affects their success, but their actual cognitive abilities which were more strongly developed due to environmental factors (which also coincidentally are shown to lead to greater height). In other words, the success really has nothing to do with the height but rather the intelligence of the person.
As for how I view others, I don't really evaluate height when making judgments about a person. I look more toward body language and actual statements than anything. I have dated men both taller and shorter than me and I can't really say I prefer one over the other.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on December 02, 2011:
Thank you Alecia, for taking time to read and comment on my hub. I appreciate your honesty and your contribution to the subject.
barryseotech from England on December 02, 2011:
Nice information, thank you.
Alecia Murphy from Wilmington, North Carolina on December 01, 2011:
I'm 5'3" and considered average height for an American woman, but I feel like sometimes I should be at least 5'5" so I wouldn't have to stand on something or call someone for help. But if I dated a guy, he'd have to be at least a few inches taller. I'm not attracted to people close to my height. It's nothing I'm proud of, but it's just one of those things that I've never understood about myself but knew.
I never heard of taller people have an advantage in the workplace/classroom but it makes sense since height gives the impression of power. I don't have a Napoleon complex, at least not that I've noticed, I just try to be myself.
Very interesting hub! Voted up.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 28, 2011:
leroy64: I sort of understand that it can be frustrating to be short. For me it's been frustrating because I always wanted to be one of those tiny women about 5'2" tall. Everyone seems to like them best when they're pretty. I'm just thankful I didn't reach 6' like so many women in my family! My mother always wanted to be one of those women 6' tall and actively wished it on me! I used to dread that she would get her wish.
But I do remember when I was dating, how I felt like an awkward giant (I'm only 5'5" which is average height for a woman) around shorter men.
Just for the record, there are lots of drop dead gorgeous women who are over 5'2", and even over 6' tall, and they are much appreciated by lots of people, but I know too that sometimes they have difficulties in relationships because of their height. It's too bad height is such a big deal, because fantastic people come in all shapes, sizes, and heights!
Thank you leroy64 for your honesty comment, and for taking time to read my hub!
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 28, 2011:
Thank you Chelseacharleston for your honest comments. Dating men who are shorter than I am has seemed awkward to me also, and I'm of average height for a woman. I know you are saying it's more than awkward for you, but for me it has been awkward, and I would be surprised it that wasn't how they felt too.
Brian L. Powell from Dallas, Texas (Oak Cliff) on November 27, 2011:
As a 5'-6" male, my experience tells me that my height affects how people react to me. I can only control my own actions; and, I generally just let things like that slide. My other option is to develop an ulcer. The only time this bothers me is when I am asking someone out on a date.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 27, 2011:
Thank you, Jonny Windows, for checking back!
chelseacharleston on November 27, 2011:
Height is an immediate deal breaker for me in the dating arena. I have no control over it. My libido shuts itself down immediately. I'm 5'8'' and like to wear heels from time to time, so if a guy is under about 6' tall, it's a no go. Lately, since I'm 30, still single, and looking, I tried to ease on the height requirement only to be reminded once again how out of my control it really is. So, I can't help but think there really is a primal subconscious element to height and attraction of all kinds, be it romance or employment.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 27, 2011:
jfay2011: I usually prefer men a little taller than myself too, but not so tall I get a crink in my neck trying to have a conversation with them! lol
Thank you for your comment!
Jonny windows from u.k. on November 27, 2011:
Ah yes, my mistake, you're right there. :-)
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 26, 2011:
Thank you Jonny Windows for taking some time to read and comment on my hub.
I wonder if the saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall" might relate more to someone's business or social position than their actual height? The more money someone has, the more lofty their position in the community and in the business world, the harder it is for them when they experience sudden failure -- going broke etc. When you have all but nothing, taking the crumb away that was too small for the Who's mouse isn't that big a deal . .
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 26, 2011:
nicregl: Thank you for you thoughts. My research indicated that you are absolutely right on when it comes to height being an advantage, particularly in sales and other high profile situations.
jfay2011 on November 26, 2011:
I have usually liked it when they are a few inches taller. I would find it hard looking up to someone really tall.
C E Clark (author) from North Texas on November 26, 2011:
zzron: Thank you for taking time to read and comment. Your experience seems to support the results of my research and what I'm saying here.
Jonny windows from u.k. on November 26, 2011:
Although it can often be an advantage to be tall , sometimes its the opposite that is true ,"the bigger they are, the harder they fall "
Reginald Chan from Malaysia on November 26, 2011:
Usually height will be some sort of 'confidence' especially when you are doing sales or meeting up some one new. However, I consider height as 'first impression' and thus, use the advantage you got effectively to get the best effect for you.
Good writing and thanks for sharing.
zzron from Houston, TX. on November 25, 2011:
I believe people do judge you according to your appearance. I am 6 feet tall, which I have noticed is a bit taller than most men. I think my height does give me somewhat a bit of confidence and most people I deal with I believe recognizes my size and probably treats me differently than someone who may be shorter.